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Is Shoaib Malik the right replacement for Sohaib Maqsood?

Is Shoaib Malik the right replacement for Sohaib Maqsood?

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If we look at current batting performers in the National T20 Cup:

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Malik would be a good choice - purely as a batsman but is he the "impact" player that Maqsood was supposed to be?
 
I would have gone with shaoib Malik azwell or Iftikhar as a second choice
 
I'm happy with it. His ability against spin, bowl spin and his fitness levels means he is the right choice for the UAE.

Sharjeel may have had a case, but it depends where you lie on picking overweight, unfit convicted fixers for the national team when we already have many openers.
 
hitthestump said:
I'm happy with it. His ability against spin, bowl spin and his fitness levels means he is the right choice for the UAE.

Sharjeel may have had a case, but it depends where you lie on picking overweight, unfit convicted fixers for the national team when we already have many openers.
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Even if sharjeel is fit I don't think he can dislodge Babar and Rizwan as the opening pair.
 
It shows how poor our talent development has been development that we are picking a guy into his 40s. A self serving PCB and domestic system have led to this awful situation. Now that he is in, let's hope he actually scores some runs. His commitment has never been in doubt, his batting has been average.
 
Better to pick him now in conditions suited to him rather than the next WT20 which will be in Australia. Malik will be given a perfect send off when Babar lifts the trophy.
 
Nope, Ifthikhar the far superior option!

He is basically a younger version of Malik, but someone who is actually a finisher and will take the team home.
 
Ifthikar wouldve been the right choice Its a senseless decision turning to a 40yr old for the umpteeth time

Its not like this guy is a legend is he
 
Malik is a step above other players in the squad.

I would have also brought in Iftikhar Ahmed instead of Khushdil Shah.
 
The only player from the 1990s still playing international cricket.

Makes him look like some Tendulkar-type legend, but we know the reality.
 
UzmanBeast said:
Malik is a step above other players in the squad.

I would have also brought in Iftikhar Ahmed instead of Khushdil Shah.
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Is that why hes not been a part of the team for the last year and is nowehere to be seen performance wise in this current national t20 comp?
 
Only thing in favour of Malik is his ability of playing spin. Every team in the world knows this now and will not try bowling spin while hes batting. Its a dumb decision, clutching at straws really. I dunno who would be a right decision to pick but its been proven in the past that Malik never delivers in big tournaments how can he now?
 
Zaz said:
Is that why hes not been a part of the team for the last year and is nowehere to be seen performance wise in this current national t20 comp?
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Where was Khushdil Shah during the PSL?

Where was Azam Khan during the PSL?

Where was Asif Ali during the PSL?

Malik has been performing for a while apart from that one season in CPL. He's averaging 70 in the National T20 Cup.

I'll ask again, where are his contemporaries? You keep mentioning that he hasn't been performing but he's been performing better than all the available options.

Yes, he hasn't been part of our team because our management would rather take a 120kg+ kid with no credentials to England because his dad knows people in high places.
 
Ifti would have been a better option and in todays National T20 Cup game it showing that Abdullah Shafique would have been a better option as well.
 
Some wanted him. Now you got him. I just hope this guy if he plays performs now.

Need a 50 off 25 from him and Hafeez together.
 
Iftikhar has showed that he can finish. He can also be a great no. 6 for our team. He can hit spinners and pacers and can generate power when needed to clear the ropes.

In case of a collapse he can also stabilize Pakistan innings without giving away his wicket like other no. 6 we have rn.
 
Surprised he eclipsed the reserves to be straight in main squad
 
Completely different kind of player then Sohaib Maqsood so definitely not a like to like replacement. Haider will most likely be taking Sohaib’s spot at no 3.

Malik seems to be the rebound option now with no other developed middle order players. 5 years leading upto the WT20 weren’t used well to create some reasonable middle order options as too many players were tried along with too much chopping and changing.
 
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A big NO

Even if Malik is ends up as the leading run scorer and helps Pakistan win the World Cup, he still isn’t the best option! You will still have to fill the hole of him and Hafeez departing sooner rather than later. Pakistan’s middle order repair will now take longer considering the people who could replace him are just being discarded left right and centre
 
Bad bad choice, malik is done and dusted. Should have been Ifthikar.
 
Not bad considering that he was premier batsman of Pakistan's middle order when they were No. 1 team in T20Is.

We all know the results when Misbah dropped Malik from T20I team. I think UAE pitches suit Malik's style of batting. He was good in PSL's UAE leg.
 
Shoiab Malik usually has a good record against India.

If he plays a vital winning role against India then I think he will easily justify his selection regardless of how he then performs against other teams.

If he fails against India, then he will still have a chance to justify his selection in rest of the tournament.

I think the chances are 70/30 in his favor and I support his selection, especially when the outgoing player has picked up a genuine injury and SM is not coming into the team at the cost of someone else getting kicked out for no reason.
 
Yes. Malik will be the best batsman from Pakistan in upcoming WT20 if you consider both total runs scored and SR .
 
Saurav said:
Surprised he eclipsed the reserves to be straight in main squad
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Such surprises are a part of the staple diet of my beloved compatriots. Best washed down with a cooling glass of Rooh Afza.
 
He is a good choice, he can play spin well as well as bowl a few overs. Apart from that, he is an excellent fielder with lots of experience.
 
Babar will heavily pay for asking Malik. After this T20 World Cup humiliation he will loose captaincy.
 
Rana said:
A big NO

Even if Malik is ends up as the leading run scorer and helps Pakistan win the World Cup, he still isn’t the best option! You will still have to fill the hole of him and Hafeez departing sooner rather than later. Pakistan’s middle order repair will now take longer considering the people who could replace him are just being discarded left right and centre
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Do you really think that can happen no performance in his prime in WCs suddenly him and Hafeez both past retirement age will produce a Hollywood style finish.

:razzaq
 
Justcrazy said:
He is a good choice, he can play spin well as well as bowl a few overs. Apart from that, he is an excellent fielder with lots of experience.
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Malik as a batsman, is the only one who can potentially hold the innings together and play the anchor role. He has a cool head and he is shrewd like a fox.

Rest of the entire batting line (including Iftikhar) are mostly a hit or a miss type flashy batsmen.
 
Low scoring game - Malik is our man.

Anything which requires heavy hitting - Malik will struggle.
 
I think one of Hafeez or Malik should play, If fit Hafeez will play and Malik will be a good support in the dressing room and like to like replacement,

My team against india will be, (with batting order)

Rizwan
Fakhar
Babar
Hafeez
Haider
Asif
Imad
Shadab
Hassan
Shaheen
Rauf
 
MenInG said:
Low scoring game - Malik is our man.

Anything which requires heavy hitting - Malik will struggle.
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True but you need to smart while batting in pairs, If Malik or Hafeez or Babar batting together than one of them need to take attack to be opposition to keep the momentum going.
 
Since the tournament is in UAE, I think inclusion of Shoaib Malik is not a bad decision.
 
Ideally, it should be Sharjeel Khan hopefully Malik is not indulged in doing politics in the dressing room and gunning for captaincy with Muhammad Hafeez. That's always the case after losing the world cup.
Let's hope for the best all players should play for Pakistan. God knows better.
 
For all those upset that uncle Ifti hasn’t made it instead of Malik, tell me, what has Ifti ever done to prove himself in international cricket? From where I see it, Ifti has always bottled it when given the chance and no matter how many runs he scored in the National T20, I’m not suddenly going to forget what he does when the real pressure is on.

Malik is no Bradman but he’s certainly not someone who’s going to face a mental block when the going gets tough, in the way Ifti will.

If you really want Ifti in the team, ask why Asif Ali and Sarfraz have been selected ahead of him, not why Malik has been selected ahead.
 
Colorblind Genius said:
Shoiab Malik usually has a good record against India.

If he plays a vital winning role against India then I think he will easily justify his selection regardless of how he then performs against other teams.

If he fails against India, then he will still have a chance to justify his selection in rest of the tournament.

I think the chances are 70/30 in his favor and I support his selection, especially when the outgoing player has picked up a genuine injury and SM is not coming into the team at the cost of someone else getting kicked out for no reason.
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Did you support his selection in the 2019 World Cup too?

Logically speaking, you've better off picking a decent fielder who can't hold a bat or ball or single delivery instead of grandpa Malik.
 
IMMY69 said:
Did you support his selection in the 2019 World Cup too?

Logically speaking, you've better off picking a decent fielder who can't hold a bat or ball or single delivery instead of grandpa Malik.
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Only if you could realize that in this current squad, Malik is in the top 3 fielders.
I would rather say he is the fittest and THE BEST fielder but that may send you into a shock to know the reality.
 
In high profile game against India , Malik is our best choice, he handles the pressure well and performs well against India .

Its sad we have no better replacement other than Malik , who is old and has not been a great cricketer by any mean .

He is much better and fitter than other contenders for middle order spot.
 
Usman said:
For all those upset that uncle Ifti hasn’t made it instead of Malik, tell me, what has Ifti ever done to prove himself in international cricket? From where I see it, Ifti has always bottled it when given the chance and no matter how many runs he scored in the National T20, I’m not suddenly going to forget what he does when the real pressure is on.

Malik is no Bradman but he’s certainly not someone who’s going to face a mental block when the going gets tough, in the way Ifti will.

If you really want Ifti in the team, ask why Asif Ali and Sarfraz have been selected ahead of him, not why Malik has been selected ahead.
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Agree with you 100%

Ifiti chacha is tyoical of those who only perform well in domestic cricket, have been a failure at international level.

Shoib has performed well at international level, many time, not consistently .

With an inexperience and not very confident captain leading in WC, Malik presence and his experience is good for team overall.
 
moghul said:
Agree with you 100%

Ifiti chacha is tyoical of those who only perform well in domestic cricket, have been a failure at international level.

Shoib has performed well at international level, many time, not consistently .

With an inexperience and not very confident captain leading in WC, Malik presence and his experience is good for team overall.
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How many chances has had ifti had? You say hes bottled it has he bottled like malik in the 2019 wc? Has he had the hundreds of chances like malik had had iftys barely played 2 dozen games for pakistan

Malik has never been a world beater Why are we selecting him at age of 40 out of the blue when hes not a world beater Would any other country do this?

What good is experienve when your performances are rubbish? Someone like him whos been around forever should be twice as good if hes holding another wc position Is he twice as good as ifty and co Is he heck
 
Shoaib Malik should be played at no:-4 position pls dont waste him down the order.

top 4 player should be our best batters
1 Rizwan
2 Babar
3 Hafeez
4 Malik
 
Colorblind Genius said:
Only if you could realize that in this current squad, Malik is in the top 3 fielders.
I would rather say he is the fittest and THE BEST fielder but that may send you into a shock to know the reality.
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That's irrelevant.
He's in his 40's, made his debut in 1999 has failed in international cricket in the last god knows how many years, doesn't have a central contract. There is absolutely no logic in picking him. Also sends out the wrong signal to everyone else.

Imran Butt would be a more progressive selection that's how absurd Malik's selection is.

It's just wrong
 
Varun said:
The only player from the 1990s still playing international cricket.

Makes him look like some Tendulkar-type legend, but we know the reality.
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Gayle started in 99, but your point stands. It’s insane that Malik has lasted this long
 
I think Hafeez should have dropped. He is even older, has not scored any runs at any level for last 6 months, not the fittest person around and just recovering from illness and has not played any meaningful cricket for some times.
 
Absolutely. We havent got better middle order batsman for the UAE conditions. Still is a good fielder
 
Hafeez & Malik are 40 plus, and both selected in final 11 for t20, is it ?
As human brain ages every year, the nerve connections lose speed, and reflexes slow down considerably. This is an undisputable fact.
I know cricket is not chess, but as an opposition captain, if you bowl short balls at full speed, they will miss it 5 times out of 10, on general principle.

Im seriously willing to take bets on this, that they will both be a liability.
 
drubwrubnat said:
Hafeez & Malik are 40 plus, and both selected in final 11 for t20, is it ?
As human brain ages every year, the nerve connections lose speed, and reflexes slow down considerably. This is an undisputable fact.
I know cricket is not chess, but as an opposition captain, if you bowl short balls at full speed, they will miss it 5 times out of 10, on general principle.

Im seriously willing to take bets on this, that they will both be a liability.
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You're right, Shaoib and Hafeez were never good against genuine pace even in their younger days . But, other younger ones like Khushdil, Azam, Iftikhar ( younger ?? ) Maqsood are even worst against the pace.
 
moghul said:
You're right, Shaoib and Hafeez were never good against genuine pace even in their younger days . But, other younger ones like Khushdil, Azam, Iftikhar ( younger ?? ) Maqsood are even worst against the pace.
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Atleast drop 1, both these 40 y olds should never be in final 11,
 
Why Iftikhar, he has been poor at international other than that one series in Australia. Iftikhar got plenty of chances in white ball cricket. Asif Ali and Khushdil are equally poor choices. Captain needs to tell Malik to get into some form in bowling too to help out if needed.
 
shamaan said:
His natural psotion in top 3 he may stil do a job down at the position you stated thou he's a good player od spin
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The problem is Hafeez. Hafeez's bowling will be pivotal until he is caught by the ICC for a illegal action. Hafeez could come down at No.6 or 7, but that would hurt his pride. A top 5 of Babar, Rizwan, Shafique, Haider and potentially Nawaz is good.
 
IMMY69 said:
That's irrelevant.
He's in his 40's, made his debut in 1999 has failed in international cricket in the last god knows how many years, doesn't have a central contract. There is absolutely no logic in picking him. Also sends out the wrong signal to everyone else.

Imran Butt would be a more progressive selection that's how absurd Malik's selection is.

It's just wrong
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See you are only looking at one side of the coin. He is 40 and he started in 1999
But you are blinded folded to realize the dilemma that a 40 years old is fitter, more agile, quicker and better than many youngsters in the current squad.
 
moghul said:
Agree with you 100%

Ifiti chacha is tyoical of those who only perform well in domestic cricket, have been a failure at international level.

Shoib has performed well at international level, many time, not consistently .

With an inexperience and not very confident captain leading in WC, Malik presence and his experience is good for team overall.
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I agree with you entirely. Malik won’t win you every game, but he will win you some and that is a LOT more than can be said about the vast majority of the young “talent” in Pakistan. Apart from Haider Ali, I don’t trust a single youngster in Pakistan when it comes to t20 cricket.
 
As per Waheed Khan ; experience matters a lot and that's why Malik needs to be there in the team

My question is : in 2019 WC he was experienced at that time, what Malik achieved is for everyone to see
 
Usman said:
I agree with you entirely. Malik won’t win you every game, but he will win you some and that is a LOT more than can be said about the vast majority of the young “talent” in Pakistan. Apart from Haider Ali, I don’t trust a single youngster in Pakistan when it comes to t20 cricket.
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I trust youngsters but not legendary TTFs like Asif Alis
 
Colorblind Genius said:
See you are only looking at one side of the coin. He is 40 and he started in 1999
But you are blinded folded to realize the dilemma that a 40 years old is fitter, more agile, quicker and better than many youngsters in the current squad.
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I'm old but a lot fitter then some of those representing the national team.
However, selecting someone in his 40's who has failed to perform for several years is just stupid.

There is zero reasoning behind this selection.
Please stop justifying it
 
Experience in a 20 overs game!!

People will say anything to justify selection of incompetence..
 
iniqbal223 said:
I trust youngsters but not legendary TTFs like Asif Alis
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I don’t trust Asif Ali either, but the point of this thread is not “should Asif Ali be selected?”, to which the obvious answer is no. The question is about Malik and on his selection, there aren’t youngsters around who are better and not already in the squad.
 
Which Pakistani other than Babar and Rizwan has scored consistently for Pakistan. Hafeez had one purple patch year. So Malik fits the bill better than Khushdil, Asif Ali and the unselected Iftikhar. He is in good form atm and has many time stabilised Pakistan situation after fall of quick wickets
 
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