Is the new Superman movie anti-Israel?

[BouncerGuy]

‘Superman’ applauded by netizens for being ‘anti-Israel’

Movie-goers are applauding director Tim Gunn for the subliminal messaging in ‘Superman’, where it supposedly depicts Israel’s aggression in Gaza. The new Warner Bros film which opened this weekend in theatres, as already drawn plenty reactions about its storyline and how it is “anti-Israel”.

The plot depicts Superman (David Corenswet) having just prevented the fictional land of Boravia - an Eastern European country indicated by its Russian-speaking leaders and onion-domed buildings - from invading Jarhanpur, a country with a primarily brown-skinned population.

Although Gunn said he was not thinking of the Middle East when he wrote the film, the internet has been awash with comments with people comparing Boravia to Israel and Jarhanpur to Palestine.

Some users point out that the images of Boravian soldiers in full military gear encroaching on a crowd of Jarhanpurian civilians brings to mind scenes of IDF soldiers invading civilian hospitals and schools in Gaza.

‘Superman’ applauded by netizens for being ‘anti-Israel’

Movie-goers are applauding director Tim Gunn for the subliminal messaging in ‘Superman’, where it supposedly depicts...

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[KingKhanWC]

Has anyone watched the new Superman movie ?

 

[BouncerGuy]

Has anyone watched the new Superman movie ?

Not yet... Planning to watch soon

 

[sweep_shot]

I am not sure if director did it on purpose but it has similarities with what's happening in Gaza.

 

[BouncerGuy]

I am not sure if director did it on purpose but it has similarities with what's happening in Gaza.

Then it is a must watch...

 

[KingKhanWC]

Not yet... Planning to watch soon

As a kid i loved watching this franchise , its a brilliant character with a great storyline. Apparently fair skinned people are occupying a group of brown people which has angered Zionists. I will watch this too

Which is your fav superman movie ? Superman 2 for me .

 

[sweep_shot]

Then it is a must watch...

Yeah. I want to watch too.

As a kid i loved watching this franchise , its a brilliant character with a great storyline. Apparently fair skinned people are occupying a group of brown people which has angered Zionists. I will watch this too

Which is your fav superman movie ? Superman 2 for me .

I am more into Batman and Iron-Man. Never really watched Super-Man with great interest. But, I want to watch this one.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Yeah. I want to watch too.



I am more into Batman and Iron-Man. Never really watched Super-Man with great interest. But, I want to watch this one.

Check out the original superman movies , Christopher Reeve was the best superman . Ironically and sadly he become paralysed.

The director of this one is Irish , who are the most vocal westerners. Would be interesting to hear his views

 

[BouncerGuy]

As a kid i loved watching this franchise , its a brilliant character with a great storyline. Apparently fair skinned people are occupying a group of brown people which has angered Zionists. I will watch this too

Which is your fav superman movie ? Superman 2 for me .

man of steel

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Check out the original superman movies , Christopher Reeve was the best superman . Ironically and sadly he become paralysed.

The director of this one is Irish , who are the most vocal westerners. Would be interesting to hear his views

No James Gunn is American.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Didn't think of it like that. But i definitely want to watch Gunn's take on Superman. Zack Snyder's DCU was rubbish, slow and devoid of a captivating storyline.
James Gunn is someone who loves comics. And is a very good director. Peacemaker season 1 was one of the best superhero series ever made.
As for supes, barring 1978 Superman, the bar isn't really high. All other Superman movies were mediocre.

 

[IMMY69]

Having grown up watching all the Superman films Ihad to go and see this one in the cinema.

Not going to give away any spoilers, but I really did not like it. From the reviews I think I'm a lone voice but for me it was a complete let down.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Having grown up watching all the Superman films Ihad to go and see this one in the cinema.

Not going to give away any spoilers, but I really did not like it. From the reviews I think I'm a lone voice but for me it was a complete let down.

What was lacking or what did you not enjoy? The storyline, characters or effects?

 

[IMMY69]

What was lacking or what did you not enjoy? The storyline, characters or effects?

To be honest, it was all three.
It tried a little too hard to be funny and the comic timing was off... found the jokes a bit cheesy.

Storyline didn't make much sense and the effects were mediocre at best.

The only positives were the fictional state that was being invaded by its neighbour and the John Williams score.
But this aside, there was too much going on and it all felt a little incoherent.

If the they were trying to take it back to the Christopher Reeves films, then it was more Quest for Peace then Superman/Supoerman II...

Maybe the comic book fans will love it, but I just found myself rolling my eyes up throughout most of the film.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

To be honest, it was all three.
It tried a little too hard to be funny and the comic timing was off... found the jokes a bit cheesy.

Storyline didn't make much sense and the effects were mediocre at best.

The only positives were the fictional state that was being invaded by its neighbour and the John Williams score.
But this aside, there was too much going on and it all felt a little incoherent.

If the they were trying to take it back to the Christopher Reeves films, then it was more Quest for Peace then Superman/Supoerman II...

Maybe the comic book fans will love it, but I just found myself rolling my eyes up throughout most of the film.

I am getting too old for the supernatural comic book films. I still enjoy batman coz the story is sorta believable ( well relative to the others) but the overkill from Marvel/DC in recent times has put me right off superhero films. I'm like you I find myself rolling my eyes because unless you really enjoy the superhero antics the stories are often very poor.

I may watch this because it has got some zios worked up.

 

[IMMY69]

Oh and Jonathan Kent is still alive whereas he's dead in every other film prior to Clark becoming Superman...
Felt zero chemistry between the Kents and Clark and couldn't really understand what Jonathan was saying in any of his scenes... I really must be old..

 

[IMMY69]

Check out the original superman movies , Christopher Reeve was the best superman . Ironically and sadly he become paralysed.

The director of this one is Irish , who are the most vocal westerners. Would be interesting to hear his views

Have you seen Super/Man, the Christopher Reeve Documentary...
I thought it was absolutely brilliant.

Oh and the new actor to play superman is the first jewish actor to wear the red cape..

 

[KingKhanWC]

Have you seen Super/Man, the Christopher Reeve Documentary...
I thought it was absolutely brilliant.

Oh and the new actor to play superman is the first jewish actor to wear the red cape..

Not sure but I’ll check it out .

Is the bad guy in this Luther or some new character?

 

[IMMY69]

Not sure but I’ll check it out .

Is the bad guy in this Luther or some new character?

Its Luther played by Nicholas Hault

 

[shaz619]

I kind of get @IMMY69 with his take on this, and tbh, most of the elderly (no disrespect) I know off who loved the Reeves movies, may not necessarily favour this in the same way; those movies had an excellent cast & soul which captured the viewers imagination, I don’t believe this has been captured as well in the 21st century although I personally really enjoyed Superman Returns from 2006, it just came out when the genre had little hype unfortunately but I felt that movie had soul as in the kind of narrative & characters which make you care and tug at the emotions.

We had a strong cast with Man Of Steel, Cavill & Amy Adam’s; doesn’t get better then that does it? But a shockingly poor script, I don’t mind the darker tone and welcome it, but how can you justify Superman not being bothered about collateral damage, the whole point of him is that he should be this superior alien species that is inherently good and better then Humans, but this fact was lost on Zack Snyder and he didn’t present compelling justifications for his incarnation of Clark Kent either.

With the current ‘reboot’, the main positive for me is that they got the fundamentals right, the character’s were spot on and every major plot point made sense, in the confines of the superhero genre today, this is as good as it’s going to get; for something a bit more grown up, I would suggest the Smallville TV series which is criminally underrated btw. However, this movie was a parody of Man Of Steel, it spent a decent amount of time correcting that movie without going into detail and the low profile cast will take some getting use to. I think the predictable sequel should be better in theory once James Gunn calms his ego, but I appreciate the political commentary with the world events today.

 

[shaz619]

Logan was the last truly great movie from the genre that I watched, arguably the best (though Matt Reeves did a decent job with The Batman though); I tend to enjoy these movies so much more when someone genuinely talented as a director with a decent resume has a go.

 

[IMMY69]

I kind of get @IMMY69 with his take on this, and tbh, most of the elderly (no disrespect) I know off who loved the Reeves movies, may not necessarily favour this in the same way; those movies had an excellent cast & soul which captured the viewers imagination, I don’t believe this has been captured as well in the 21st century although I personally really enjoyed Superman Returns from 2006, it just came out when the genre had little hype unfortunately but I felt that movie had soul as in the kind of narrative & characters which make you care and tug at the emotions.

We had a strong cast with Man Of Steel, Cavill & Amy Adam’s; doesn’t get better then that does it? But a shockingly poor script, I don’t mind the darker tone and welcome it, but how can you justify Superman not being bothered about collateral damage, the whole point of him is that he should be this superior alien species that is inherently good and better then Humans, but this fact was lost on Zack Snyder and he didn’t present compelling justifications for his incarnation of Clark Kent either.

With the current ‘reboot’, the main positive for me is that they got the fundamentals right, the character’s were spot on and every major plot point made sense, in the confines of the superhero genre today, this is as good as it’s going to get; for something a bit more grown up, I would suggest the Smallville TV series which is criminally underrated btw. However, this movie was a parody of Man Of Steel, it spent a decent amount of time correcting that movie without going into detail and the low profile cast will take some getting use to. I think the predictable sequel should be better in theory once James Gunn calms his ego, but I appreciate the political commentary with the world events today.

Mate Smallville was one of my all time favourite superhero shows....
I enjoyed watching it all again with my son when he turned 14 and he loved it too...

 

[shaz619]

Mate Smallville was one of my all time favourite superhero shows....
I enjoyed watching it all again with my son when he turned 14 and he loved it too...

I need to re-watch it so I can appreciate it even more, it’s all on ITVX now but with the ads, easily one of the best shows from the 2000’s imo

 

[Suleiman]

Don’t really watch superhero movies anymore… can’t believe I’d say that at some point in my life lol but it is what it is.

My brain is zoned out after so many superhero movies in the last 2 decades esp since Marvel went into avengers saga. Last one I watched was the final venom movie as Venom is an all time comic ATG IMO and I wanted him to have his own movie since I was a kid. Endgame was a great sign off for many marvel heroes as is and signaled the end of the superhero movie boom for me.

Never much into Superman. Batman has been done to death as well, should’ve ended that with Nolan’s trilogy.

Spider-Man is the only one regardless of iterations I enjoy, and if they make it work again in the future I’ll check it out, done with the others though.

 

[Suleiman]

Don’t really watch superhero movies anymore… can’t believe I’d say that at some point in my life lol but it is what it is.

My brain is zoned out after so many superhero movies in the last 2 decades esp since Marvel went into avengers saga. Last one I watched was the final venom movie as Venom is an all time comic ATG IMO and I wanted him to have his own movie since I was a kid. Endgame was a great sign off for many marvel heroes as is and signaled the end of the superhero movie boom for me.

Never much into Superman. Batman has been done to death as well, should’ve ended that with Nolan’s trilogy.

Spider-Man is the only one regardless of iterations I enjoy, and if they make it work again in the future I’ll check it out, done with the others though.

Hulk is also someone they have absolutely massacred and botched which is sad because he’s top 3 for me as well.

Norton bhai did the best work for him. Then in last few movies they have only made him weaker and more emasculated to appease feminazis or whatever weak minded men who get triggered when they see a character embodying “toxic masculinity” or whatever it is lol- he’s supposed to be an out of control insanely strong freak, let him be

So if they somewhere down the line correct hulks trajectory and do him justice I would check that out as well. Thor is lost cause don’t think they will fix that.

 

[guard]

As a kid i loved watching this franchise , its a brilliant character with a great storyline. Apparently fair skinned people are occupying a group of brown people which has angered Zionists. I will watch this too

Which is your fav superman movie ? Superman 2 for me .

The world went to war and masses of people died needlessly for these *%#€…

What a waste..

 

[mominsaigol]

‘Superman’ applauded by netizens for being ‘anti-Israel’

Movie-goers are applauding director Tim Gunn for the subliminal messaging in ‘Superman’, where it supposedly depicts Israel’s aggression in Gaza. The new Warner Bros film which opened this weekend in theatres, as already drawn plenty reactions about its storyline and how it is “anti-Israel”.

The plot depicts Superman (David Corenswet) having just prevented the fictional land of Boravia - an Eastern European country indicated by its Russian-speaking leaders and onion-domed buildings - from invading Jarhanpur, a country with a primarily brown-skinned population.

Although Gunn said he was not thinking of the Middle East when he wrote the film, the internet has been awash with comments with people comparing Boravia to Israel and Jarhanpur to Palestine.

Some users point out that the images of Boravian soldiers in full military gear encroaching on a crowd of Jarhanpurian civilians brings to mind scenes of IDF soldiers invading civilian hospitals and schools in Gaza.

‘Superman’ applauded by netizens for being ‘anti-Israel’

Movie-goers are applauding director Tim Gunn for the subliminal messaging in ‘Superman’, where it supposedly depicts...

www.brecorder.com

Nonsense claim by Israel. Superman stopping a war between 2 fictional countries with the dictator of that country having a German accent and being a parody of Hitler and Albert Einstein combined = Anti Israel?

Lmao

 

[JaDed]

Logan was the last truly great movie from the genre that I watched, arguably the best (though Matt Reeves did a decent job with The Batman though); I tend to enjoy these movies so much more when someone genuinely talented as a director with a decent resume has a go.

I honestly liked the Batman with Riddler too.

 

[JaDed]

Lost Interest in superhero movies overall, nothing original coming out of Hollywood anymore , actually nothing original making it big in Hollywood anymore, even Sinners was a let down.

I think streaming has killed the fun and thrill of movies, the dopamine from a reels or youtube makes me less interested in Movies overall unless they can catch me immediately.

 

[mominsaigol]

Lost Interest in superhero movies overall, nothing original coming out of Hollywood anymore , actually nothing original making it big in Hollywood anymore, even Sinners was a let down.

I think streaming has killed the fun and thrill of movies, the dopamine from a reels or youtube makes me less interested in Movies overall unless they can catch me immediately.

Naw the issue is quality decline.

Since Avengers End Game we have only had 3 really good films

1) Spiderman No way Home
2) Spiderman into and across the Spider verse.

Dceu was trash, Mcu was awful, Dr strange 2, the Marvels, Ant Man 3, She Hulk are all meme worthy movies.

Guardians of Galaxy 3 is good but none of the guardians movies even come close to Iron Man 2008 despite iron man being the 1st mcu film

Similarly Superman 2025 is very good but its only good due to characters. They finally got Superman, Lex luthor and lois lane right but beyond that it's an average plot and nothing special.

The decline in quality from movies like Iron Man 1, Avengers 1, Captain America the winter soldier, Captain America civil war, Avengers 3 and 4, Spiderman trilogy as compared to phase 4, phase 5 and the dceu is enormous.

Yes Phase 1, 2 and 3 didnt have perfect movies either. Iron 2 isnt great, Hulk is awful, None of the thor movies ever stuck, guardians of the galaxy movies are good but none of them are great, Same goes for ant man 1 which is just okay,

But they always produced a solid Gem.

Name one solid gem other then Spiderman that marvel or dc has produced?

I can only recall The Batman, Spiderman No way home and into + across the spider verse being extremly peak.

The rest have all been mid to Bad.

2025 Superman is mid. That's itm

 

[shaz619]

I honestly liked the Batman with Riddler too.

It seems crazy that it came out so long ago without a follow up since then that I almost forgot about it, but Matt Reeves did a wonderful job; as a theatrical experience I am not sure it needed to be so long, but when you re-watch from the sofa it will age really really well

 

[shaz619]

Lost Interest in superhero movies overall, nothing original coming out of Hollywood anymore , actually nothing original making it big in Hollywood anymore, even Sinners was a let down.

I think streaming has killed the fun and thrill of movies, the dopamine from a reels or youtube makes me less interested in Movies overall unless they can catch me immediately.

You reckon, on the whole I kind of agree but there are gems every now and then, I really enjoyed both F1 & Sinners

 

[mominsaigol]

It seems crazy that it came out so long ago without a follow up since then that I almost forgot about it, but Matt Reeves did a wonderful job; as a theatrical experience I am not sure it needed to be so long, but when you re-watch from the sofa it will age really really well

Sequel coming out in 2027. Idkw James Gunn isnt willing to put the batman into dcu though?

Like seriously why not? The 2025 version of Superman is weak as heck. James gunn depowered him for a reason, hence theirs no reason why reeves Batman who is obviously realistic and weaker then afleck cant co exist?

Both movies take place in established universes and dont contradict one another. And superman in 2025 was shown to be on Year 2 as well with Batman in reeves on year 2 as well.

It feels weird that they are making Batman the brave and the bold in 2027. I cant fanthom 2 Batman movies coming out the same year.

James gunn even stated that each film will feature a different theme, superman will be light hearted but the upcoming Clayface movie will be dark and a pseudo horror film, while Peacemaker season 1 will.be made non canon, but season 2 will be canon and take place in dcu with an R rating?

It seems like each movie will have a different theme, so I dont understand why not just have reeves and James gunn directions co exist?

I also find it weird how Superman is on year 2, but Batman in brave and bold will be experienced with an entire bat family? When in comics superman typically comes before Batman and was cited as the world's first superhero.

 

[shaz619]

Sequel coming out in 2027. Idkw James Gunn isnt willing to put the batman into dcu though?

Like seriously why not? The 2025 version of Superman is weak as heck. James gunn depowered him for a reason, hence theirs no reason why reeves Batman who is obviously realistic and weaker then afleck cant co exist?

Both movies take place in established universes and dont contradict one another. And superman in 2025 was shown to be on Year 2 as well with Batman in reeves on year 2 as well.

It feels weird that they are making Batman the brave and the bold in 2027. I cant fanthom 2 Batman movies coming out the same year.

James gunn even stated that each film will feature a different theme, superman will be light hearted but the upcoming Clayface movie will be dark and a pseudo horror film, while Peacemaker season 1 will.be made non canon, but season 2 will be canon and take place in dcu with an R rating?

It seems like each movie will have a different theme, so I dont understand why not just have reeves and James gunn directions co exist?

I also find it weird how Superman is on year 2, but Batman in brave and bold will be experienced with an entire bat family? When in comics superman typically comes before Batman and was cited as the world's first superhero.

I think he presented this supes as a bit of a chump to humanise him a bit more and make him more relatable, as a rib on MOS and their supes who was a bit more dominant in his general presentation, but that takes away from the character.

There is certainly a clash here and I don’t feel it’s necessary to have two Batman movies so close to each other, but then, this is the only way we can actually get talented directors to give their take in the genre, like I could never imagine Nolan’s Batman in the DCU, and while Pattinson’s Batman & Matt Reeves’s movie hasn’t gained the same notoriety's, they are on the path to make genuine blockbusters that are acclaimed critically while with DCU, it’s more about selling tickets and appealing to more of a family friendly audience.

It seems like there is tension between Reeves & Gunn on this and I’m not sure we will see Reeves make another Batman movie beyond part 2, not sure what he signed up for but whatever he has been involved with, as far as the Batman Universe is concerned, the projects have turned out really well; the animated series somehow managed to compare to the OG Batman series & The Penguin TV series was simply brilliant. But yeah, it’s possible that after this little period we may not get two separate Batmans, and I’m not sure if that’s a great think if am honest as I am not a huge fan of the Marvel approach to the genre which is very dated, I am more in favour on focussing on individual projects, opposed to building up a universe of multiple characters with the aim of trying to reboot the Justice League properly this time.

 

[mominsaigol]

I think he presented this supes as a bit of a chump to humanise him a bit more and make him more relatable, as a rib on MOS and their supes who was a bit more dominant in his general presentation, but that takes away from the character.

There is certainly a clash here and I don’t feel it’s necessary to have two Batman movies so close to each other, but then, this is the only way we can actually get talented directors to give their take in the genre, like I could never imagine Nolan’s Batman in the DCU, and while Pattinson’s Batman & Matt Reeves’s movie hasn’t gained the same notoriety's, they are on the path to make genuine blockbusters that are acclaimed critically while with DCU, it’s more about selling tickets and appealing to more of a family friendly audience.

It seems like there is tension between Reeves & Gunn on this and I’m not sure we will see Reeves make another Batman movie beyond part 2, not sure what he signed up for but whatever he has been involved with, as far as the Batman Universe is concerned, the projects have turned out really well; the animated series somehow managed to compare to the OG Batman series & The Penguin TV series was simply brilliant. But yeah, it’s possible that after this little period we may not get two separate Batmans, and I’m not sure if that’s a great think if am honest as I am not a huge fan of the Marvel approach to the genre which is very dated, I am more in favour on focussing on individual projects, opposed to building up a universe of multiple characters with the aim of trying to reboot the Justice League properly this time.

Their is a difference though.

James gunn made superman weaker to increase the stakes. Cavil and reeves superman never struggled with anyone(ignoring kryptonite), Revees and cavil both only struggled with Zod, Doomsday and ig Nuclear man but that movie sucks anyway so who cares.

James Gunn superman struggles against the likes of other meta humans and isn't that much stronger. Infact he isn't that fast either, humans can easily perceive him while cavil superman is almost flash speed and reeves can literally reverse time.

Also unlike cavil and reeves who can recover from lryptonite pretty quickly as kryptonite only weakens them for a few minutes, James gunn superman gets weakened for days on end, also reeves and cavil have to inhale the gas, otherwise cavil superman could carry the spear since the crystal itself doesnt do anything, whereas James gunn superman gets weakened jut by being in its vicinity.

Its deliberately done to ensure that superman isnt overpowered in this world and the threat of meta humans × Lex is extremely real.

However Reeves Batman isnt realistic like Nolan's Batman. Reeves has stated that the likes of Hush, Mr freeze, joker and many other characters he wishes to incorporate will be comic accurate and Batman will eventually be forced to take such guys on.

Similarly it features elements such as an aderlaine boost which is non realistic but comic accurate as year 2 Batman freqently did this.

If they did a BvS, it wouldnt be unrealistic for this Batman who is portrayed as 100x smarter then nolan and Synder Batman with him analysing each and everything to easily take on this version of superman with preparation.

The Batman clearly takes place in a comic book setting and not a realistic setting like Nolan.

 

[shaz619]

Their is a difference though.

James gunn made superman weaker to increase the stakes. Cavil and reeves superman never struggled with anyone(ignoring kryptonite), Revees and cavil both only struggled with Zod, Doomsday and ig Nuclear man but that movie sucks anyway so who cares.

James Gunn superman struggles against the likes of other meta humans and isn't that much stronger. Infact he isn't that fast either, humans can easily perceive him while cavil superman is almost flash speed and reeves can literally reverse time.

Also unlike cavil and reeves who can recover from lryptonite pretty quickly as kryptonite only weakens them for a few minutes, James gunn superman gets weakened for days on end, also reeves and cavil have to inhale the gas, otherwise cavil superman could carry the spear since the crystal itself doesnt do anything, whereas James gunn superman gets weakened jut by being in its vicinity.

Its deliberately done to ensure that superman isnt overpowered in this world and the threat of meta humans × Lex is extremely real.

However Reeves Batman isnt realistic like Nolan's Batman. Reeves has stated that the likes of Hush, Mr freeze, joker and many other characters he wishes to incorporate will be comic accurate and Batman will eventually be forced to take such guys on.

Similarly it features elements such as an aderlaine boost which is non realistic but comic accurate as year 2 Batman freqently did this.

If they did a BvS, it wouldnt be unrealistic for this Batman who is portrayed as 100x smarter then nolan and Synder Batman with him analysing each and everything to easily take on this version of superman with preparation.

The Batman clearly takes place in a comic book setting and not a realistic setting like Nolan.

Yeah that’s a part of it and something I conveyed a tad differently actually, but I believe that presentation inherently makes him more sympathetic for the audience, Gunn’s big thing is to make this character a man of the people and in that vulnerable state, there’s more reason to route for him opposed to a guy who is bringing some buildings down at the expense of people dying. If there are Meta-Humans busting him up a bit to sell this view, then that’s helping this presentation.

Reeves’s Batman is more authentic in terms of being directly inspired by the source material and them wanting him to focus a lot more on the detective elements which ultimately laid the foundation for the Batman character, so I get the argument that you can justify it for the DCU, but my point wasn’t necessarily on the realistic and non-realistic portrayal, it was more about a serious director like Reeves being given the freedom to bring his vision to light without interference from DCU; hypothetically if that was to take place, there’s a lot which he would need to change for him to fit his work into the Gunn’s plans, it’s not just whether or not there are some comic book inspired similarities, they are not going to be on the same page when it comes to the over-arching plots and inherent character motivations, tone, origin etc So I get them going down this route. Also, I don’t know if there are too many examples off directors with a decent rep in general who will work to fit their work into wider Universe? I think you’d be limiting a director such as Reeves. Gunn can make a more gimmicky version of Bats which is more family friendly, but it would be a shame if Reeves was forced to support that.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

It seems crazy that it came out so long ago without a follow up since then that I almost forgot about it, but Matt Reeves did a wonderful job; as a theatrical experience I am not sure it needed to be so long, but when you re-watch from the sofa it will age really really well

My main gripe with it was Batman kept moving to the beat of Riddler's plan and was unable to disrupt his plan in the end as well. Riddler succeeded in killing Falcone and Bruce was unable to see through it or prevent it. Made Bruce look not as sharp as he is supposed to be. Penguin the tv series on the other hand, i felt was an upgrade over it. It had a total starting point and end point and caught ethos of the penguin really well.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Nonsense claim by Israel. Superman stopping a war between 2 fictional countries with the dictator of that country having a German accent and being a parody of Hitler and Albert Einstein combined = Anti Israel?

Lmao

Insecurity reeks of that tbh. How can you claim a superhero movie is about you.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

I kind of get @IMMY69 with his take on this, and tbh, most of the elderly (no disrespect) I know off who loved the Reeves movies, may not necessarily favour this in the same way; those movies had an excellent cast & soul which captured the viewers imagination, I don’t believe this has been captured as well in the 21st century although I personally really enjoyed Superman Returns from 2006, it just came out when the genre had little hype unfortunately but I felt that movie had soul as in the kind of narrative & characters which make you care and tug at the emotions.

We had a strong cast with Man Of Steel, Cavill & Amy Adam’s; doesn’t get better then that does it? But a shockingly poor script, I don’t mind the darker tone and welcome it, but how can you justify Superman not being bothered about collateral damage, the whole point of him is that he should be this superior alien species that is inherently good and better then Humans, but this fact was lost on Zack Snyder and he didn’t present compelling justifications for his incarnation of Clark Kent either.

With the current ‘reboot’, the main positive for me is that they got the fundamentals right, the character’s were spot on and every major plot point made sense, in the confines of the superhero genre today, this is as good as it’s going to get; for something a bit more grown up, I would suggest the Smallville TV series which is criminally underrated btw. However, this movie was a parody of Man Of Steel, it spent a decent amount of time correcting that movie without going into detail and the low profile cast will take some getting use to. I think the predictable sequel should be better in theory once James Gunn calms his ego, but I appreciate the political commentary with the world events today.

Haven't followed MCU after Endgame as it is nonsensical now and most of the good story arcs have been told. MCU doesn't have those biggest superheroes apart from Spiderman and some xmen. Like DC does with Superman and Batman. And DC's villains are way better than Marvel's. Superhero movies have been overdone now that it doesn't really make you feel really good like they did in late 2000s and early 2010s.
But I am still curious to watch Superman because Gunn is a director who actually knows comic book characters and knows how to craft movies. Zack Snyder's whole vision was imbalanced and cringy. It even reduced Batman to a joke.
For me, it's not the effects or the cast in superhero movies rather than the story. Going by trailers, it looks like Superman isn't too lengthy and have a straightforward story post his origin which actually works. I am still curious to see it.