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Is this the end of Ahmed Shehzad / Wahab Riaz's careers?

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Fakhar Zaman has exceeded all expectations at the top, Azhar Ali also starting to step up to the plate. Have we seen the last of Shehzad?
 
I hope so. Azhar Ali is not really stepping up per say just doing what he does.

Fear not Shezad fans I see a blossoming career beyond the horizon: snapchat and twitter selfies.
 
Keep him in the squad as backup opener. He is a great fielder when 12th man.
 
Definitely not. I don't know why we jump to such conclusions on the basis of a couple of games. Who knows how Fakhar will perform going forward. Azhar will definitely be criticized and dropped regardless of what he does. I still don't think we have a settled opening partnership yet. If Shahzad performs domestically he should definitely be considered.
 
Sharjeel should replace Shehzad in the next squad.
 
sharjeel honestly is guilty even if he didnt spot fix, he has admitted of taking money and meeting bookie

should be banned for atleast 1-2 years

PCB should also be realistic and accept it misjudged his dot balls as spot fixing
 
Should be a nice wake up call for him...at one point both him and junior thought they were indispensable. Glad Mickey has kicked both of them in the backside and others have stepped up. Junior and Shehzad should go back to domestic cricket and not think about wearing green again for some years.
 
amvbfm said:
Definitely not. I don't know why we jump to such conclusions on the basis of a couple of games. Who knows how Fakhar will perform going forward. Azhar will definitely be criticized and dropped regardless of what he does. I still don't think we have a settled opening partnership yet. If Shahzad performs domestically he should definitely be considered.
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I think this goes deeper than simply a matter of over reaction from the fans. For years and years we were told that " this lot is the best we got" "we cannot afford to play aggressive at the top for fear of collapse" "no new talent coming in that can play modern ODI batting"

For years and in critical games such as the 2011 World Cup, 2015 World Cup and t 20 world cups, we have used the same TTFs with the same meek style of play.

The era of Misbah, Hafeez, Azhar, Afridi as captains is over. This little spark might see a resurgence in our LOI batting fortunes. Fortune favors the brace, and bravado is something Sarfaraz, Fakhar, Hassan and Faheem seem to have in abundance. It's is highly likely now that we will stick with this change in our playing style and I really don't see Shehzad and Unar Akmal etc fitting in with it. Even Hafeez is barely hanging on due to his bowling but the moment imad and Shadab start providing some impetus with the bat towards the bottom, even he can be phased out.
 
cricfan967 said:
Fakhar Zaman has exceeded all expectations at the top, Azhar Ali also starting to step up to the plate. Have we seen the last of Shehzad?
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once Sharjeel comes back I would like Pakistan to open with Sharjeel and Fakhar and Azhar Ali at #3. Sharjeel and Fakhar will be giving the license to kill knowing well that they have a rock in Azhar Ali at #3 to stabilize.
 
It was already the end of Shehzad 2 years ago....not sure what he was doing to keep him on the squad. I hope I never see him in green again.
 
Stewie said:
I think this goes deeper than simply a matter of over reaction from the fans. For years and years we were told that " this lot is the best we got" "we cannot afford to play aggressive at the top for fear of collapse" "no new talent coming in that can play modern ODI batting"

For years and in critical games such as the 2011 World Cup, 2015 World Cup and t 20 world cups, we have used the same TTFs with the same meek style of play.

The era of Misbah, Hafeez, Azhar, Afridi as captains is over. This little spark might see a resurgence in our LOI batting fortunes. Fortune favors the brace, and bravado is something Sarfaraz, Fakhar, Hassan and Faheem seem to have in abundance. It's is highly likely now that we will stick with this change in our playing style and I really don't see Shehzad and Unar Akmal etc fitting in with it. Even Hafeez is barely hanging on due to his bowling but the moment imad and Shadab start providing some impetus with the bat towards the bottom, even he can be phased out.
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It's possible, but if there is one thing that I or rather we've all learnt as Pakistani cricket fans is to never rule out any possibility. Anyone can make a comeback in the Pakistan team. Also I will still not agree that this is a settled team yet. Yes, the new guys look extremely promising and way better than the oldies but still some way to go before they prove themselves to be regular fixtures. The only thing I hope for is that all selections are made on merit and the players who perform are rewarded.
 
He is done and dusted. Should be replaced with Sharjeel (subject to clearance) in the next series.

Suddenly our ODI team is looking good with the emergence of Fakhar Zaman, Faheem Ashraf and Hassan Ali.
 
ahmedzee said:
He is done and dusted. Should be replaced with Sharjeel (subject to clearance) in the next series.

Suddenly our ODI team is looking good with the emergence of Fakhar Zaman, Faheem Ashraf and Hassan Ali.
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If Sharjeel is not cleared yet by that time then he should be replaced with Farhan (new guy)
 
shezzy has his lobbyists once fakhar goes through a lean spell. He will be back. He will be like Farhat a bad smell that lingers around for a decade before being permanently booted for continuous mediocrity.
 
Is this it for Ahmed Shehzad and Wahab Riaz?

Can't see them making a comeback again after watching Zaman, Raees, Junaid performing. It is also true that Shehzad got back into the team because Sharjeel got banned. He won't be the first choice opener anymore.
 
The best gift this CT has given to us. Every replacement, every debutant has given us the reason why we should have gotten rid of these leechers much a while ago.

With the performances of Fakhar, Rumaan, Junaid and already in waiting Haris, I don't think Shehzad & Wahab can ever stage a comeback now.
 
Both disappointed Pakistan for some time now

I cannot see them making a comeback
 
To be frank.. the energy, passion, dedication, motivation, has surpassed the rafters, since this duo have observed proceedings from the sidelines. Pakistan has played cricket with great zeal and fevour of late. It's a sight for sore eyes, well done!

P.S time to move on from Wahab and Shehzad. Good riddance.
 
yes it is unfortunately. in odi's for sure. in tests not long after.
 
You can never say something like this about a TTF for sure. After all he staged a comeback after almost 2 years. But one thing is sure. His competition is getting stronger and stronger with every passing day.

PSL 2018 would include some more new faces in Multan team and if Sahibzada Farhan or Umer Amin showed the same form they had in Pakistan Cup, I guess Shehzad is gonna find it too difficult to return.
 
Its over for Wahab, but Shehzad has to work on his lack of mental strength and will make a come back, age is behind him. Not too long ago, he was the best opener in Pakistan, but has regressed .
 
hope so... but shehzad still have a chance if he can go back and work on his strike rotation and power hitting...

but azhar is a fighter just like sarfraz who will not give up so easily... he will surely develop his game even further going forward...a batsmen like him who can arrest the sliding collapse is needed for team especially like pak...
 
ExpressPacer said:
That is IF he didn't fix and is able to prove that.
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Why does he have to prove his innocence? Isn't it innocent unless proven guilty? The onus is on PCB and their lawyers to prove him to be guilty. That's how the law works.
 
i want him to go back to domestic cricket and re-invent his game. find something that he is good at and work on it. get rid of the antics and move out of the bubble that he lives in.

the guy did show potential even though it was for a very brief moment. some of his most powerful backers don't play cricket anymore, it is time for him to leave those people fully and work on his game.

he isn't necessary to the team but something tells me, he is going to remain with the team somehow. sharjeel should have effectively ended his career, but there is always a somehow with shehzad. tough man to totally get rid of shezzy boy
 
From LOIs? Yes. Should be given a few more chances with the test team although i am not hopeful of him succeeding there as well.
 
Syed1 said:
Why does he have to prove his innocence? Isn't it innocent unless proven guilty? The onus is on PCB and their lawyers to prove him to be guilty. That's how the law works.
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By the look of things, they got nothing on him. He should be free and ready to serve Pakistan soon. Also he should be happy to enhance his wealth by suing sethi and leaving him in chaddi banyan.
 
Ahmad Shehzad and Wahab Riaz Should Never Be Part Of Our ODI and T20 Team

Both sacked for lifetime both are "Manhoos" for Pakistan Cricket
both play first match and we loose and then show will start but manhoos are not part of it
 
I think Ahmed shehzad still has a chance because of his young age. Team management won't right him off.

But this guy needs to improve immensely for me to cheer for him.

While yeah wahab, it's time to say goodbye to him.
 
This is Pakistan cricket - no ones career truly ends unless your name is Fawad Alam

I bet we'll see Shehzad, Wahab and even the Akmal back within 6 months
 
Stewie said:
I think this goes deeper than simply a matter of over reaction from the fans. For years and years we were told that " this lot is the best we got" "we cannot afford to play aggressive at the top for fear of collapse" "no new talent coming in that can play modern ODI batting"

For years and in critical games such as the 2011 World Cup, 2015 World Cup and t 20 world cups, we have used the same TTFs with the same meek style of play.

The era of Misbah, Hafeez, Azhar, Afridi as captains is over. This little spark might see a resurgence in our LOI batting fortunes. Fortune favors the brace, and bravado is something Sarfaraz, Fakhar, Hassan and Faheem seem to have in abundance. It's is highly likely now that we will stick with this change in our playing style and I really don't see Shehzad and Unar Akmal etc fitting in with it. Even Hafeez is barely hanging on due to his bowling but the moment imad and Shadab start providing some impetus with the bat towards the bottom, even he can be phased out.
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And who was the main architect of that line of thinking? :) Please be honest and don’t hold back. Say his name :)
 
Shehzad is still young, he might get dropped for now but he has still lots of cricket left, might make a come back.

If PAK toured BD, could have been a chance that Wahab's career would have been ended, because even for Ul Haq, it would have been difficult to call him back straight after that Birmingham show. Now, the next match is after 4 months & in UAE - enough time & excuse to call him back. I actually think, if Wahab can be selected for ODI in U.K., he deserves a call for ODI in UAE. Wahab will be at least in squad against SRL - let's see.
 
omcswe said:
i want him to go back to domestic cricket and re-invent his game. find something that he is good at and work on it. get rid of the antics and move out of the bubble that he lives in.

the guy did show potential even though it was for a very brief moment. some of his most powerful backers don't play cricket anymore, it is time for him to leave those people fully and work on his game.

he isn't necessary to the team but something tells me, he is going to remain with the team somehow. sharjeel should have effectively ended his career, but there is always a somehow with shehzad. tough man to totally get rid of shezzy boy
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His problem is mostly one of mindset. He used to be aggressive but learned that the best way to stay in the team and make the captain happy is to "play a long innings" and "put a price on your wicket". In Pakistani terms that means getting a 75 ball 50. He lost his natural style of play and became confused on how to play. Whether to defend or attack. Of course he is also partly to blame for his flaws.

Recently the former captain again stated that he wanted Zaman to "play a longer innings". I my opinion code for get a 75 ballish 50. I find this to be problematic. He should just kepe quiet and let zaman play his natural game instead of confusing him.

That former captain is very loved by certain people. His defenders are very aggressive and some of them are powerful. He is the same person who also confused Nasir Jamsheed, Umar Akmal, Maqsood and others.

I fear Shehzad may never recover. The damage has been done. I hope I am wrong
 
Mag101 said:
To be frank.. the energy, passion, dedication, motivation, has surpassed the rafters, since this duo have observed proceedings from the sidelines. Pakistan has played cricket with great zeal and fevour of late. It's a sight for sore eyes, well done!

P.S time to move on from Wahab and Shehzad. Good riddance.
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It has more to do with a certain mindset being shelved and an old/more traditional Pakistani mindset being adopted
 
Even if fakhar goes bad look for another 100sr+ opener selfie ahould not play for pakistan in an loi again
 
The problem with both Ahmed Shehzad and Umar Akmal is that they have never been kept out of the team for very long, the more younger batsmen we find, they will get the message that there will not be any more free rides in the team anymore.
 
ahmed has age on his side so he may come back in future but this should be the end of wahab
he should now play leagues and make money for himself
 
I will still play both Ahmed Shehzad and Wahab Riaz in the test team.
 
No way... you may know " Kohlu ka bai" at the moment you may said that but they will get their chances at some time.
 
depend on the sifarish in PCB. if the sifarish is strong then they will make a come back soon may n vs lanka
 
Is Wahab Riazs career over?

Ever since Wahab Riaz had expensive figures of 0-87 and got ruled out of the Champions Trophy, Pakistan have been more improved and also no one has seemed to ever talk about him ever again since. Is this the end?
 
I think that because Shehzad is young, he is more likely to play again. Sharjeel's case is on going and we were all hopeful he would get cleared a few weeks ago but I think that consensus has reduced and we are not as hopeful of Sharjeel coming back anymore. Therefore Shehzad is probably going to stay around Pakistan squads for a while in case another opener gets injured/bad form etc and he is a good fielder. I really don't like Shehzad as a cricketer though tbh, I don't want him to play for us ever again but he's going to be around for a while still

Riaz, on the other hand, does not have time on his hands and he is starting to lose his place. In Australia tour, WI tour and CT I think he played first match but got dropped afterwards from the playing 11 and his injury in the CT bought in Raees who has bowled well against England. There are a lot of seamers coming through now so I think Riaz career may be over. I don't want him to play for us again because I'm losing patience with him. Shouldn't be in our squads for any of the 3 formats.
 
I very much hope so. Wahab could merit a place on the bench for the foreseeable future where as Shehzad's time should be up now. He has never impressed me enough to be in the first eleven. Time to move on from him, we have Fakhar, Azhar, Hafeez and possibly even Sharjeel to name a few who can open the innings in all formats.
 
Abdulm123 said:
Hafeez is a better finisher in my opinion
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Better than whom exactly? Shehzad is an opener and Wahab is a bowler. That would suggest neither of them are in the team for their "finishing."
 
PakLFC said that Hafeez can open the innings in all formats to replace shehzad but i disagree
 
Not the end of Shehzad, unfortunately because we've lost Sharjeel and Khalid Latif and so, he'll always be able to make the T20 squad somehow. As for ODI's, it is only a matter of time before the fans and selectors get fed up with Azhar Ali's snail paced batting and Shehzad is sought for his performances in domestics. As far as Tests are concerned, Pakistan will always need a third opener and Shan Masood will inevitably be dropped because he is the definition of mediocrity and Shezzy will take that spot.
 
ExpressPacer said:
Not the end of Shehzad, unfortunately because we've lost Sharjeel and Khalid Latif and so, he'll always be able to make the T20 squad somehow. As for ODI's, it is only a matter of time before the fans and selectors get fed up with Azhar Ali's snail paced batting and Shehzad is sought for his performances in domestics. As far as Tests are concerned, Pakistan will always need a third opener and Shan Masood will inevitably be dropped because he is the definition of mediocrity and Shezzy will take that spot.
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I hope you are right, but don't forget Hafeez has managed to have a long career despite epitomising mediocrity.
 
mak36 said:
I hope you are right, but don't forget Hafeez has managed to have a long career despite epitomising mediocrity.
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I'm Hafeez's biggest critic but he was phenomenal on flat UAE pitches. Shan on the other hand has done nothing in playing many matches on those dead wickets.
 
Neither Shehzad or Riaz should've got central contracts. We've tolerated mediocrity long enough.

Azhar and Fakhar are likely to get a run after their CT exploits but Sahibzada Farhan should be called up at least for the bench, he looks a promising, hard-hitting opener with a good front-foot game. Prefer that than reverting back to TTFs.
 
Ahmed Shehzad, as expected, retains his place for the Sri Lanka series. That innings in the last T20I against World XI had more or less cemented his place here. Riaz dropped for the ODI's though, and with many pacers coming through, Riaz may have played his last ODI for Pakistan.
 
Unbelievable that Shehzad has made it this far, today's game must truly be the end.
 
Never... series ll be over. people ll forget and after a month we 'll see the same faces
 
Today surely must have been his last chance for a while. Hopefully he doesn't play ODIs again.
 
Can't you see Shehzad has all the shots in his arsenal. Only a matter of time before he shuts his haters. Wonderful talent.
 
Abdullah719 said:
If you look at the stats, he was Pakistan's 6th highest-scorer in this match :shezzy #talknahhaters
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Plus, he only got out because he was selflessly trying to push on for the team. Unlike Babar who was selfish enough to stick around and score a century. :yk2
 
Ahmed Shehzad can continue his journey in T20s as he has been selected for Scotland games
 
Ahmed Shehzad's been sacked as captain of HBL, excluded from PCB's list of contracted players and his name hasn't been included in the list of probables for the QEA Trophy.

As for Riaz, he's been in fine form for Derbyshire recently, does he deserve a recall?
 
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