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Is Virat Kohli already a bigger match winner than Sachin Tendulkar?

vandokkum said:
On flat pitches against 2nd class bowlers, Kohli is far ahead of tendulkar. Against top class bowlers on a bowler friendly pitch? Thats a different story. Sachin will always be rated higher than Kohli.
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Tendulkar was a better batsman, but was not a better match winner.
 
Tendulkar with his calming influence and ability to attack and defend with equal skill and ability to handle literally any conditions put before him makes him a far bigger match winner. It's a complete myth that his innings didn't win India matches.

Kohli's a better chaser in ODIs, for sure, but he needs to do a lot more to be put up there with the likes of Sachin.
 
Comparing Virat to Sachin is truly a shame. Tendulkar had not got the same support that Virat Kohli gets from others while batting. Tendulkar had to single handed lead India through matches. Tendulkar had to face quality fast bowlers, and quality spinners on bowling friendly wickets. Tendulkar was not a flat pitch bully, he was one of the best batsmen cricket had seen. Virat Kohli is a great talent, but has not got the opportunity to play against great fast bowlers, or great spinners. Whenever he has played someone close to that title, he has got out, and left his team miserable. Kohli has played a lot of his cricket on flat tracks. There is nothing for bowlers on flat tracks. Flat tracks are not only in India now, but around the whole world. It is really awkward on why bowling friendly, or fair wickets have been taken out of the picture. There is no challenge for Batsmen against bowlers anymore. There is no competition. The 2015 world cup was the lamest cup of them all. Their was no competition at all. It was almost as if you win the toss, the match is yours. It is really a huge shame to compare Virat Kohli to a legend like Sachin Tendulkar.
 
ahsaniqbalfutureofcricket said:
Comparing Virat to Sachin is truly a shame. Tendulkar had not got the same support that Virat Kohli gets from others while batting. Tendulkar had to single handed lead India through matches. Tendulkar had to face quality fast bowlers, and quality spinners on bowling friendly wickets. Tendulkar was not a flat pitch bully, he was one of the best batsmen cricket had seen. Virat Kohli is a great talent, but has not got the opportunity to play against great fast bowlers, or great spinners. Whenever he has played someone close to that title, he has got out, and left his team miserable. Kohli has played a lot of his cricket on flat tracks. There is nothing for bowlers on flat tracks. Flat tracks are not only in India now, but around the whole world. It is really awkward on why bowling friendly, or fair wickets have been taken out of the picture. There is no challenge for Batsmen against bowlers anymore. There is no competition. The 2015 world cup was the lamest cup of them all. Their was no competition at all. It was almost as if you win the toss, the match is yours. It is really a huge shame to compare Virat Kohli to a legend like Sachin Tendulkar.
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100 % agreed. Sachin was good enough to score a hundred at the age of 18 on the most hostile pitch on earth. Let Kohli do something like this.
 
part of the reason people pick Tendulkar over other greats even though their batting averages are very similar and almost identical is because of his longevity which mind you is a fair and valid point.

Now you go and compare Kohli to Sachin that's not even fair, give it 5 years.
 
The jury is still out on Kholi. Don't get me wrong, he's an excellent bat but still doesn't come in the same league as Sachin.
 
India has Dhoni, Rehane, Sharma, Raina and Dhawan who are all match winners. When Sachin was the only match winner when he was at his peak in the 90s. Maaybe this is why Sachin stood out more than Kohli ?
 
Thivagar said:
India has Dhoni, Rehane, Sharma, Raina and Dhawan who are all match winners. When Sachin was the only match winner when he was at his peak in the 90s. Maaybe this is why Sachin stood out more than Kohli ?
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It's why he stands out amongst everyone. He didn't even have to face Indian bowling otherwise he would have had 150 International hundreds.
 
Joke of a thread ! In Australia in the test series, Kohli smashed 4 centuries but India lost twice. so how come kohli is a match winner?
 
Virat Kohli not mature enough yet: Waugh

http://www.dawn.com/news/1176319/kohli-not-mature-enough-yet-waugh

Former Australian captain Steve Waugh says India's new Test captain Virat Kohli is not ‘mature’ enough yet to fill in the shoes of recently retired skipper MS Dhoni.

Kohli took over as the captain of the Test side after Dhoni walked away from the five-day game during India's tour of Australia prior to the World Cup.

According to Waugh, Dhoni lead India into a new age of cricket and never let his emotions spill over, an attribute Kohli would to well to emulate.

“Kohli has to mature. He had a few issues this World Cup. He gets a bit too animated, bit too emotional, bit too personal on some issues,” Cricket Australia quoted Waugh as saying.

“As a captain you have got to develop a thick skin and Dhoni has that, nothing gets through him.

During the World Cup, India's batting mainstay Kohli was censured for his ugly outburst against a travelling Indian journalist in Perth and advised to maintain dignity by the country's cricket board.

Known equally for his silken touch with the bat and a penchant for run-ins with opposition players, Test captain Kohli swore at the journalist over a story about his personal life after a net session at the Murdoch Oval.

Waugh said Kohli only needed to look as far as Dhoni for inspiration.

“He would be a good role model for Kohli. He has to be his own man but also take a bit of what Dhoni has.

“Dhoni has never been bothered about what people say. The external things don't influence him. He just keeps it simple, goes about his job in the best that he can do on the field.”
 
What is wrong with being animated and emotional?Dada was like that as well....I disagree with Waugh and he has his own unique style of getting under the skin which the opposition does not like....
 
Kohli would most likely emerge a bigger match winner but can he match Sachin the batsmen.. Can he solely win matches for India in world cup like Sachin did in 96..?Can he overcome his technical flaws and pile loads of runs in swing friendly conditions like Sachin did in England..?Can he create an impact anywhere close to the one created by Sachin among his fans..?Can he match Sachin the test batsmen who was averaging close to 58 at his current age..?
 
Both are certified bottlers. Its all good doing it in India but have to do wellin WC to be considered damn good
 
Ab Fan said:
Kohli would most likely emerge a bigger match winner but can he match Sachin the batsmen.. Can he solely win matches for India in world cup like Sachin did in 96..?Can he overcome his technical flaws and pile loads of runs in swing friendly conditions like Sachin did in England..?Can he create an impact anywhere close to the one created by Sachin among his fans..?Can he match Sachin the test batsmen who was averaging close to 58 at his current age..?
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Even if Kohli manages to match Sachin pound for pound, he will never be recognized as such. Others will live in the shadow of Sachin, however good they happen to be. A modern batsman has to do something truly extraordinary and Bradmanesque in order to overcome the legacy of Sachin - such as averaging 65-70 in tests. For example, Kohli managed four hundreds in four tests in Australia recently (something which Sachin did not manage in any tour, home or away, in his 22 year old career) but these kind of performances aren't going to be enough to draw comparisons with Sahin.

Sachin's legacy is built upon several factors 1) He was a young prodigy the likes of which have never been seen b) He was a top tier batsman at the age of 18 - spoken of as a future GOAT at that age c) He was one of the best batsman in every year in multiple formats for two decades d) He broke innumerable batting records during his long career e) He played his first half in arguably a tough bating era etc. Any modern batsman has to do something truly extraordinary to be spoken of in the same breath as Sachin. Something as good as averaging 65-70 and also having a great record against best teams of this era.
 
He must do well outside India and against somebody other than Sri Lanka.

Averages something like 38 outside India and against opponents other than Sri Lanka, with only 4 hundreds. For a top order batsman that's bordering on poor considering the era.
 
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IndianWillow said:
Even if Kohli manages to match Sachin pound for pound, he will never be recognized as such. Others will live in the shadow of Sachin, however good they happen to be. A modern batsman has to do something truly extraordinary and Bradmanesque in order to overcome the legacy of Sachin - such as averaging 65-70 in tests. For example, Kohli managed four hundreds in four tests in Australia recently (something which Sachin did not manage in any tour, home or away, in his 22 year old career) but these kind of performances aren't going to be enough to draw comparisons with Sahin.

Sachin's legacy is built upon several factors 1) He was a young prodigy the likes of which have never been seen b) He was a top tier batsman at the age of 18 - spoken of as a future GOAT at that age c) He was one of the best batsman in every year in multiple formats for two decades d) He broke innumerable batting records during his long career e) He played his first half in arguably a tough bating era etc. Any modern batsman has to do something truly extraordinary to be spoken of in the same breath as Sachin. Something as good as averaging 65-70 and also having a great record against best teams of this era.
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+1..Brilliant post..!!!
 
About 2-3 levels below in tests ATM. I would take his Aus 2015 exploits with a tinge of salt as not a single Aussie bowler managed to average below 30 in that series iirc. The only other time that happened was in 2004 but back then we had our greatest batting line-up in history. An excellent effort but not in the most challenging of conditions.

In ODI's , it is surely a contest. The way he was going between 2012-2014 was him matching SRT blow by blow for the title of the greatest Indian ODI batsman ever. But he will have to keep this up for a long time to surpass SRT.

Since we are talking of match-winners, we can use MotM award criterion (In ODI's the award is biased towards batsmen) Kohli has managed 21 MotM awards till date. Tendulkar managed to get 20 MotM awards till 1997 itself (these were against the bowlers of the calibre of Wasim,Waqar,Ambrose,Donald,Warne,Murali) , whereas it was between 1998-2003 that he really exploded winning a mind-boggling 29 MotM awards in 6 years! After that he had a phase between 2007-2011 when he was arguably the top ODI opener in the world and helped win dozens of games for India. SRT's longevity in ODI's is truly mind-boggling, but i would not put it past Kohli to match it. It will be difficult, but the way he has come back after a lean patch against a strong team in an important phase in the series, has really got my hopes up.

The MotM award criterion is not the be-all and end-all of gauging match-winners though (bowlers/allrounders get more in tests, batsmen get more in ODI's, players from better teams are likely to end up in the winning side and get more awards etc.)
 
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No shame in being 2nd to someone who is already placed above the likes of Richards, Sobers, Imran type legendary cricketers. If Kohli even manages to get close, it would be an achievement.
 
Kohli is not there yet; but will be in a matter of time.

But I don't think that there should be ever comparisons made of two players who batted in different eras.
 
Jo_Don said:
He must do well outside India and against somebody other than Sri Lanka.

Averages something like 38 outside India and against opponents other than Sri Lanka, with only 4 hundreds. For a top order batsman that's bordering on poor considering the era.
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He has been average overseas (outside subcontinent) but that is little exaggerated. He averages 44 with 7 hundreds in 20 tests (Australia, England, SA, NZ and WI), which is ordinary but isn't poor by any means.
 
giri26 said:
He has been average overseas (outside subcontinent) but that is little exaggerated. He averages 44 with 7 hundreds in 20 tests (Australia, England, SA, NZ and WI), which is ordinary but isn't poor by any means.
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Referring to ODIs
 
giri26 said:
He has been average overseas (outside subcontinent) but that is little exaggerated. He averages 44 with 7 hundreds in 20 tests (Australia, England, SA, NZ and WI), which is ordinary but isn't poor by any means.
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Overseas average of 44 against non-minnows with 7 hundreds at this age is much better than ordinary. But I think he is talking about ODIs.
 
Scrolln said:
About 2-3 levels below in tests ATM. I would take his Aus 2015 exploits with a tinge of salt as not a single Aussie bowler managed to average below 30 in that series iirc. The only other time that happened was in 2004 but back then we had our greatest batting line-up in history. An excellent effort but not in the most challenging of conditions.

In ODI's , it is surely a contest. The way he was going between 2012-2014 was him matching SRT blow by blow for the title of the greatest Indian ODI batsman ever. But he will have to keep this up for a long time to surpass SRT.

Since we are talking of match-winners, we can use MotM award criterion (In ODI's the award is biased towards batsmen) Kohli has managed 21 MotM awards till date. Tendulkar managed to get 20 MotM awards till 1997 itself (these were against the bowlers of the calibre of Wasim,Waqar,Ambrose,Donald,Warne,Murali) , whereas it was between 1998-2003 that he really exploded winning a mind-boggling 29 MotM awards in 6 years! After that he had a phase between 2007-2011 when he was arguably the top ODI opener in the world and helped win dozens of games for India. SRT's longevity in ODI's is truly mind-boggling, but i would not put it past Kohli to match it. It will be difficult, but the way he has come back after a lean patch against a strong team in an important phase in the series, has really got my hopes up.

The MotM award criterion is not the be-all and end-all of gauging match-winners though (bowlers/allrounders get more in tests, batsmen get more in ODI's, players from better teams are likely to end up in the winning side and get more awards etc.)
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It is covenient to say Sachin got that many MOTM awards against those gun bowlers. How many of them really against thise bowlers. He was okay against those bowlers. Nothing extraordinary. He also faced lot of rubbish bowlers and done well
 
sivaji said:
It is covenient to say Sachin got that many MOTM awards against those gun bowlers. How many of them really against thise bowlers. He was okay against those bowlers. Nothing extraordinary. He also faced lot of rubbish bowlers and done well
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There are stats of Sachin vs ATG bowlers posted everywhere. Just check out any Sachin vs <anyone> thread and you will see how well he did.

Of course he faced rubbish bowlers and did well. Even Bradman faced rubbish bowlers. How many rubbish bowlers he faced (relative to how many great bowlers) and how he did against the good ones is what matters.
 
sivaji said:
It is covenient to say Sachin got that many MOTM awards against those gun bowlers. How many of them really against thise bowlers. He was okay against those bowlers. Nothing extraordinary. He also faced lot of rubbish bowlers and done well
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Everyone has done well against rubbish bowlers, that's the reason they are rubbish.

I think you're referring to the part where i said he won 20 MotM awards till 1997? Of course not all were against ATG bowlers.

Till 1997, off the top of my head -

1991 SA - Donald (one of his most under-rated innings)
1992 - WI - Ambrose/Marshall
1992 Pak - Wasim/Imran
1994 Aus - McGrath/Warne
1996 WI - Ambrose/Walsh
1996 Aus - McGrath/Warne
1996 Pak - Wasim/Waqar
1996 Pak - Waqar/Saqlain

I think he had one MotM against Murali/Vaas in this phase too, I may have missed a couple...

SRT was good against these bowlers (as you said, nothing extra-ordinary) but to say he did not have match-winning efforts against them is false.
 
This is not even close .
Forget nostalgia . Kohi is single handedly winning matches for india .
Unreal temperament.
Sachin was a great batsman but kohli is a bigger match winner by a distance in limited overs
 
seriously, ive said it before but ill say it again


lol
just lol if people think selfish tendulkar was a better batsman than this genius
 
He definitely is

When the odds got as impossible in this one Sachin usually gave up trying and played for his average
 
Is there any doubt? Only hardcore Sachinistas would whine and cry. Kohli deserves his name to me sang by the Indian crowd 1000 times more than numbers chaser Tendu.
 
Forget about Tendulkar, Imo kohli is well on his way to be the biggest match winner batsman ever.
 
Mamoon said:
He is a mix of Tendulkar, Ponting and Lara.

Not kidding.
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Ponting's Big match mastery, Tendulkar's consistency and Lara's flair.
Spot on. Laughable to even compare him with likes of Amla in limited overs cricket.
 
From the time I've started playing cricket - always been a Tendulkar fan. Have to admit when it comes to run chases Kohli is above everybody else India has ever produced in LOI's. And the maddening this is Kohli is not even half way through his career. By the time he finishes - any comparisons with any player would be rendered redundant - given the frequency of ICC tournaments these days.
 
vandokkum said:
Ponting's Big match mastery, Tendulkar's consistency and Lara's flair.
Spot on. Laughable to even compare him with likes of Amla in limited overs cricket.
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I would still say he has some way to go in big match mastery. Tendulkar's record in finals , barring the WC FInals chokes, is legendary. Lara was a dud in big matches. He has left him far behind.

At this stage, i would rate Kohli at par with Ponting in LOI's slightly behind Tendulkar and Viv (who is no.1)
 
Dead Ball said:
I would still say he has some way to go in big match mastery. Tendulkar's record in finals , barring the WC FInals chokes, is legendary. Lara was a dud in big matches. He has left him far behind.

At this stage, i would rate Kohli at par with Ponting in LOI's slightly behind Tendulkar and Viv (who is no.1)
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In terms of chasing, Kohli has already left Ponting and tendulkar behind. He still has some work to do while batting first.
 
The greatest ODI batsman from Asia by far. The impact that he has is unbelievable.
 
Best of his era.

Only a guess how monstrous Tendulkar would have been in this era though. Let's never forget there would be no kohli if Tendulkar didn't show the way in the 90s.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Best of his era.

Only a guess how monstrous Tendulkar would have been in this era though. Let's never forget there would be no kohli if Tendulkar didn't show the way in the 90s.
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Lol, by that logic there would've been no Tendulkar if Viv Richards and Zaheer Abbas didn't show the way in the 80s.

Kohli is far ahead in ODIs, second/close only to Viv Richards.
 
Hawkeye said:
Lol, by that logic there would've been no Tendulkar if Viv Richards and Zaheer Abbas didn't show the way in the 80s.

Kohli is far ahead in ODIs, second/close only to Viv Richards.
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Obviously!

Which is why cross generation comparisons aren't really relevant. It's all about being the best in your generation. 10 year old kids today can solve complex problems that 500 years ago bewildered probably the most learned humans. Bradman if exposed to today's bowlers straight way would look ordinary for a while and eventually learnt and improve because that's what made him great. Learning and executing to perfection. Newer players always learn and take it to the next level.
 
Hawkeye said:
Lol, by that logic there would've been no Tendulkar if Viv Richards and Zaheer Abbas didn't show the way in the 80s.

Kohli is far ahead in ODIs, second/close only to Viv Richards.
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How on earth is Kohli far ahead? Sachin won similar countless matches for India including the only series win IN Australia. I know you guys hate Sachin but some objectivity has to be there. How is Kohli's today's innings better than say, Sachin's 2003 WC innings?
 
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No Kohli is not a bigger match winner than SRT was.

Kohli is a product of an Indian team that has seen considerable overall improvement in the last 15-20 years.

SRT used to win matches for India single handedly in the 1990s.

But of course, in my personal opinion, the greatest match winner India ever produced was Sunil Gavaskar, but that's for another thread ;).
 
Tendulkar definitely has played as good innings or better ones than Virat payed today .
The reason why Virat is better though by his standards this was hardly a match winning innings . its high time Tendulkar fans give up , in a pressure situation this guy really ups his game to another level give credit where its due . He may never score 100 hunderds , but the opposition fear some one like Virat more than they ever did with Tendulkar .
 
jusarrived said:
Tendulkar definitely has played as good innings or better ones than Virat payed today .
The reason why Virat is better though by his standards this was hardly a match winning innings . its high time Tendulkar fans give up , in a pressure situation this guy really ups his game to another level give credit where its due . He may never score 100 hunderds , but the opposition fear some one like Virat more than they ever did with Tendulkar .
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You are talking out of your nether regions as usual. The thing was, Sachin at his peak was WAS all the things you just described. At his peak Sachin was winning matches for fun and getting same amount of praise just as Kohli is. Just wait till he has a slump and you have have other region's player's fans and other teams fans jumping on him as they did with Sachin

I love how for duplicitous fans like you for Sachin pressure match is ONLY world cup finals but for Kohli pressure sitaution is any random bilateral game. And of course you ignore Sachin was winning bilateral games for fun for a long time
 
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Indiafan said:
You are talking out of your nether regions as usual. The thing was, Sachin at his peak was WAS all the things you just described. At his peak Sachin was winning matches for fun and getting same amount of praise just as Kohli is. Just wait till he has a slump and you have have other region's player's fans and other teams fans jumping on him as they did with Sachin

I love how for duplicitous fans like you for Sachin pressure match is ONLY world cup finals but for Kohli pressure sitaution is any random bilateral game. And of course you ignore Sachin was winning bilateral games for fun for a long time
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Its high time some of you stop going after anyone who criticises Tendulkar . its getting very annoying now .

And stop making up stuff , I never said its all about WC or even ICC tournaments or even finals . Its not like only you blind fans have watched Tendulkar at his peak . I pretty much remember every knock of his from 90s and no he did not win matches for fun . its nothing like what Virat is doing these days . its not necessary Tendulkar was better than others in every aspect of the game , if you think so you just lying .
 
No doubt the only thing he needs to cross off the list now is WC performances. That's where Sachin still holds the upper hand.
 
Not even close it's obviously much easier in this era of flat tracks with no assistance for any bowler. Kohli hasn't played those massive knocks in WC's yet that Sachin did and Kohli is not even close to being the better batsmen. Sachin has also done better in tests for India in a tougher period with little to no help while Kohli can rely on others to help along the way, this can be said for all formats actually.
 
Virat will finish as the better odi batsmen. He is a ruthless LO batsmen, Sachin wasn't this ruthless in LO. Teams are literally willing to put India just to prevent Virat from being in a chasing position as he is the master chaser.

Sachin was a physical genius, he had a good technique and strokes were pleasing to watch. But Kohli is a mental genius and plays percentage cricket absolutely brilliantly.

In tests he has a lot to do to catch Sachin yet.

Virat will finish as one of crickets greats, no doubt in my mind.
 
Indiafan said:
You are talking out of your nether regions as usual. The thing was, Sachin at his peak was WAS all the things you just described. At his peak Sachin was winning matches for fun and getting same amount of praise just as Kohli is. Just wait till he has a slump and you have have other region's player's fans and other teams fans jumping on him as they did with Sachin

I love how for duplicitous fans like you for Sachin pressure match is ONLY world cup finals but for Kohli pressure sitaution is any random bilateral game. And of course you ignore Sachin was winning bilateral games for fun for a long time
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Sachin was never winning matches for fun, India was Pakistan's bunny and Sachin was Mcgrath's bunny in peak years. You're making stuff up
 
Sachin was the greater overall batsmen. Technically flawless and a genius at scoring runs against truly tough oppositions.

Virat is becoming the greatest the ODI batsmen. He is not there yet, but his ruthless and his single mindedness could get him there. He is not the most complete batsmen like Tendulkar.


For Virat to overtake Sachin the ODI batsman, he needs to perform in WCs. For Virat to overtake Sachin the overall batsman (LOIs + Tests), there is a long way to go. Sachin in the 90s was on another planet as test player.
 
10du is generally a chocker who played for his 100s example of that would be Asia cup i doubt i ever saw someone being that selfish..

Kohli is on another level should never be compared

GOAT
 
ForeverIndian said:
100 % agreed. Sachin was good enough to score a hundred at the age of 18 on the most hostile pitch on earth. Let Kohli do something like this.
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what did he do after that he never scored 500 runs in a series, he batted with most potent batting line up in world since 1996.

Kohli when in form carries the team with his batting, yes he has failed in England , it is not like sachin never had series like that.

Sachin was equally awfull in away odis.
 
Sidilicious said:
Sachin was the greater overall batsmen. Technically flawless and a genius at scoring runs against truly tough oppositions.

Virat is becoming the greatest the ODI batsmen. He is not there yet, but his ruthless and his single mindedness could get him there. He is not the most complete batsmen like Tendulkar.


For Virat to overtake Sachin the ODI batsman, he needs to perform in WCs. For Virat to overtake Sachin the overall batsman (LOIs + Tests), there is a long way to go. Sachin in the 90s was on another planet as test player.
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What truely great bowling attack did Sachin score runs again and can you give me scorecard.

Sachin was great batsman but he is made out to be something more than he actually is in reality.
 
Kohli is on his way to becoming the GOAT ODI batsman. He is behind Viv only. He is just one world cup away to take that spot.
 
jusarrived said:
Tendulkar definitely has played as good innings or better ones than Virat payed today .
The reason why Virat is better though by his standards this was hardly a match winning innings . its high time Tendulkar fans give up , in a pressure situation this guy really ups his game to another level give credit where its due . He may never score 100 hunderds , but the opposition fear some one like Virat more than they ever did with Tendulkar .
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Tendulkar wasn't a great finisher and it's no shame. Finishing intelligence is in itself a skill and Kohli/MSD both beat him at that. Nonethrless being an opener, it was okay as Tendulkar was dr using outcomes in first 30 overs itself. If he had half the support he did by 2011, India would have won way more we all know that. Tendulkar wipes he floor with most modern players at batting talent. Kohli was struggling yesterday till his 50, we know Tendulkar would have raced to 50 and got out. When he meant business Tendulkar was a freak talent as he exhibited during he first ODI double hundred
 
i was a fan of sachin but from whatever i saw and remember in 90s he would slow down in 70s and take momentum out of the innings to reach his hundred safely. sometime he will get out and indian team has to pay or sometimes he will reach hundred and then accelerate but it was clear he would put his own personnal milestones infront of indian teams success. Kohli is not like that yet but if he become like that he will loose respect i have for him. That said tendulkats strokes looked more pleasing to eye but then everyone has their own style of play and sometimes kohli plays wonderfull strokes as well. Kohli will eclipse tendu if he keep going the way he is.. In ODIs and Tests both.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Tendulkar wasn't a great finisher and it's no shame. Finishing intelligence is in itself a skill and Kohli/MSD both beat him at that. Nonethrless being an opener, it was okay as Tendulkar was dr using outcomes in first 30 overs itself. If he had half the support he did by 2011, India would have won way more we all know that. Tendulkar wipes he floor with most modern players at batting talent. Kohli was struggling yesterday till his 50, we know Tendulkar would have raced to 50 and got out. When he meant business Tendulkar was a freak talent as he exhibited during he first ODI double hundred
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Not one thing I disagree with you .

I am a massive Dravid fan , but except for swing conditions I would say Tendulkar had the best technique too . The only batsmen who has a overall game close to Tendulkar is probably AB . There is absolutely nothing which Virat , MSD or AB who I rate very highly can/could do with the bat and Tendulkar could not . Like you said when he wanted to there was no stopping him which hes shown on several occasions . My criticism has always been that he chose an easier option when he was capable of doing much more . He continued to open when we did have good options for opening in Viru/Ganguly he could have easily dropped down and won us a lot more matches .I wouldn't expect that of lesser players , Ganguly or Viru would have failed down the order . The other being over emphasis on personal milestones , I just wish he cared less about his hundreds .

You watch Virat all he cares is about winning , he does not turn into a freak when hes in the mood , he does every time the team needs him . Hes not content scoring a hundred . Hes no3 batsmen mind you , just like openers his role is normally done much before the 40th over , but hes does that and finishes off matches as well . So hes the first top order batsmen in history whos tagged as a finisher and arguably the best . I will be surprised if he does not go down as the best ever when he retires barring any injuries .
 
Virat is ahead as a batsman, captain, and athlete. Sachin had better technique (arguably) but some of the knocks played by Virat have been better than Sachin.
 
SRT is the best OdI bat I have seen by a fair margin and I have no bias when comparing the two. It's been a while since his retirement so it's easy to forget how good he really was.
 
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