Jeremy Corbyn warns the press barons

[s28]

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In the last few days The Sun, The Mail, The Telegraph and The Express have gone a little bit James Bond.<br><br>We've got news for the billionaire, tax exile press barons: Change is coming. <a href="https://t.co/3ehSKfaAgZ">pic.twitter.com/3ehSKfaAgZ</a></p>— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) <a href="https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/966013570273234944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">20 February 2018</a></blockquote>
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[s28]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Britain's rightwing press barons need to work out how they can climb out of the gutter in which they reside because <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChangeIsComing?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChangeIsComing</a><br> <a href="https://t.co/pzQonoYgOG">https://t.co/pzQonoYgOG</a></p>— Chris Williamson MP (@DerbyChrisW) <a href="https://twitter.com/DerbyChrisW/status/966607801568124928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">22 February 2018</a></blockquote>
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[s28]

Corbyn is absolutely destroying Tories

I have never seen anything like this before !

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On the 19th of February I made a defamatory statement about <a href="https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jeremycorbyn</a>. I have apologised to Mr Corbyn and here is the complete text of my apology. Please retweet. <a href="https://t.co/6JZc8O9E82">pic.twitter.com/6JZc8O9E82</a></p>— Ben Bradley MP (@bbradleymp) <a href="https://twitter.com/bbradleymp/status/967526680188375040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24 February 2018</a></blockquote>
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[s28]

and it comes to something when your fellow 'Ben Bradley' is contributing to the public shaming of you

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">To all the people in Britain who keep tweeting me thinking I’m your rogue member of parliament... you’re looking for this guy. And he’s really really sorry. &#55356;&#56812;&#55356;&#56807; &#55356;&#56826;&#55356;&#56824; <a href="https://t.co/HbaZiKftu2">https://t.co/HbaZiKftu2</a></p>— Ben Bradley (@BenBradleyTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/BenBradleyTV/status/967539761379512321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24 February 2018</a></blockquote>
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[shaz619]

Stop giving this scrounger press, he has been thieving from the country through his revolutionary gimmick for decades. He lacks commercial and economic awareness and will plunge us into another recession if elected. Am more then happy for Jeremy to become the president of the Labour Party society at some B level University in Islington though.

He's not an educated man either, after initially flopping his A-Levels he decided to quit his pursuit of higher education to waste time in voluntary services which he could always have pursued on the side. Fact is, he's not the sharpest tool around and activism doesn't increase the value of the pound! [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION]

 

[shaz619]

Jeremy definitely commands the respect of ordinary people though.

'Ordinary' is the key word in this sentence.

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] You're right, that mud slinging campaign did not work and the truth eventually comes across however beyond all that I don't see how any of us can truly feel compatible about the idea of Jeremy being Prime Minister, he doesn't even have the qualifications to begin with beyond his little apprenticeship in Islington. Sometimes it's not just about doing the right thing, but doing what's best for Britain and am afraid we will be in big trouble if he's elected. Am not going to vote Labour next time, I got emotionally involved the last time round.

 

[Robert]

[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] You're right, that mud slinging campaign did not work and the truth eventually comes across however beyond all that I don't see how any of us can truly feel compatible about the idea of Jeremy being Prime Minister, he doesn't even have the qualifications to begin with beyond his little apprenticeship in Islington. Sometimes it's not just about doing the right thing, but doing what's best for Britain and am afraid we will be in big trouble if he's elected. Am not going to vote Labour next time, I got emotionally involved the last time round.

Good for you, think for yourself, don’t follow the herd.

His message is emotional but you need the intellectual chops too. I am afraid that the real Leader is McDonnell, who I find deeply sinister.

 

[Slog]

Stop giving this scrounger press, he has been thieving from the country through his revolutionary gimmick for decades. He lacks commercial and economic awareness and will plunge us into another recession if elected. Am more then happy for Jeremy to become the president of the Labour Party society at some B level University in Islington though.

He's not an educated man either, after initially flopping his A-Levels he decided to quit his pursuit of higher education to waste time in voluntary services which he could always have pursued on the side. Fact is, he's not the sharpest tool around and activism doesn't increase the value of the pound! [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION]

you're on @s28's enemy list!

 

[R3verse Swing]

Stop giving this scrounger press, he has been thieving from the country through his revolutionary gimmick for decades. He lacks commercial and economic awareness and will plunge us into another recession if elected. Am more then happy for Jeremy to become the president of the Labour Party society at some B level University in Islington though.

He's not an educated man either, after initially flopping his A-Levels he decided to quit his pursuit of higher education to waste time in voluntary services which he could always have pursued on the side. Fact is, he's not the sharpest tool around and activism doesn't increase the value of the pound! [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION]

If I'm not mistake John Major only had a few O-levels.

 

[Robert]

If I'm not mistake John Major only had a few O-levels.

True but he was a very bright and able guy whom Thatcher promoted rapidly through the ranks.

 

[s28]

He can't have been that bright if he was doing the unmentionable with the unspeakable Edwina Currie [barf]

 

[Robert]

Strewth, she gave Saville the keys to Broadmoor Psychiatric Hospital. I don't know if I could live with myself.

 

[shaz619]

you're on @s28's enemy list!

He literally lives next door to me I better be careful

 

[shaz619]

If I'm not mistake John Major only had a few O-levels.

Major left school at the age of sixteen in 1959 with three O-levels in History, English Language and English Literature. He later gained three more O-levels in the British Constitution, Mathematics and Economics. Jeremy achieved two E's on the other hand but I don't know what those subjects were [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION].

Personally am not gifted at all academically, but I went from an E grade to an A grade in Physics; the difference between me and Jeremy is that I never gave up , looked at the things which I was doing wrong and learned from my mistakes to gain more knowledge. Jeremy on the other hand behaved like a typical chav. The problem is that there is no use criticising him for anything because all the stupid people will feel more compelled to vote for the big idiot.

 

[shaz619]

Am not a fan of this communist, the problem with communism is........ pretty much everything!

 

[R3verse Swing]

Major left school at the age of sixteen in 1959 with three O-levels in History, English Language and English Literature. He later gained three more O-levels in the British Constitution, Mathematics and Economics. Jeremy achieved two E's on the other hand but I don't know what those subjects were [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION].

Personally am not gifted at all academically, but I went from an E grade to an A grade in Physics; the difference between me and Jeremy is that I never gave up , looked at the things which I was doing wrong and learned from my mistakes to gain more knowledge. Jeremy on the other hand behaved like a typical chav. The problem is that there is no use criticising him for anything because all the stupid people will feel more compelled to vote for the big idiot.

The thing is people are voting for Corbyn because of Austerity, and he is the only other choice in a 2 party democracy.

People seem to forget about Austerity and the role it plays in convincing people. Let's take 2 or the most decisive UK PMs certainly in my memory. Thatcher and Blair. Both ended up with terms more than 3 years, and this was mainly due to t he fact the UK economy was booming under their tenure. Conversely, Hitler would not have come into power had the Germans not suffered during Wiemar Germany with hyperinflation.

As soon as money becomes tight, everything changes. After the 2008 crash, we had a coalition in the UK for the first time since WW2. In 2015, Tories ended up with a slim majority, but Brexit 2016 revealed the clear divided, and it wasn't North and South, but really rich and poor.

If tomorrow there was a booming economy in the UK, Corbyn would be history, but he appeals to the old skool who remember nationalism.

Corbyn is nothing without his supporters. On his own, he is the same and any one of us with our political views, but the people vote for him. Thus the question is not about Corbyn, but what people see in him.

At the end of the day, if a person has food in his belly and money in their pocket, they do not care who is in power, but the moment you take away food and money, it breeds fascism - and this is what we have seen with Brexit at a high level.

 

[shaz619]

The thing is people are voting for Corbyn because of Austerity, and he is the only other choice in a 2 party democracy.

People seem to forget about Austerity and the role it plays in convincing people. Let's take 2 or the most decisive UK PMs certainly in my memory. Thatcher and Blair. Both ended up with terms more than 3 years, and this was mainly due to t he fact the UK economy was booming under their tenure. Conversely, Hitler would not have come into power had the Germans not suffered during Wiemar Germany with hyperinflation.

As soon as money becomes tight, everything changes. After the 2008 crash, we had a coalition in the UK for the first time since WW2. In 2015, Tories ended up with a slim majority, but Brexit 2016 revealed the clear divided, and it wasn't North and South, but really rich and poor.

If tomorrow there was a booming economy in the UK, Corbyn would be history, but he appeals to the old skool who remember nationalism.

Corbyn is nothing without his supporters. On his own, he is the same and any one of us with our political views, but the people vote for him. Thus the question is not about Corbyn, but what people see in him.

At the end of the day, if a person has food in his belly and money in their pocket, they do not care who is in power, but the moment you take away food and money, it breeds fascism - and this is what we have seen with Brexit at a high level.

I do agree in times like this our darker sides are magnified, so there are many factors which inspire that fascism in general which just needs to be encouraged to bring out the worst in people. Austerity is terrible and Corbyn is a product of our circumstances but even then he is not necessarily one who is equipped to be the next prime minster but it's looking increasingly likely.

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=146465]R3verse Swing[/MENTION] In the instance Corbyn is elected, what do you imagine over the next 5 years

 

[R3verse Swing]

[MENTION=146465]R3verse Swing[/MENTION] In the instance Corbyn is elected, what do you imagine over the next 5 years

Well, my opinion is that regardless of the leader, the maths is against them. I believe it’s not the political parties that have failed or are failing, but capitalism is failing, or has failed.

For example, the national debt; national debt will rise. This is the nature of capitalism. There is no leader that can reduce the national debt. Raise the interest rate? Then you raise the government payment on interest rates. One of the reason why rates are not on the rise.

The next 5 years will be tough. We have still not passed the banking debt. Personal debt is still on the rise. We are headed for much larger problems. Debt is not wealth. With near ZIRP we are only compounding the problem, debt on debt.

I think in the next 5 to 10 years, UK will be asking the IMF for a bailout.

 

[Robert]

Well, my opinion is that regardless of the leader, the maths is against them. I believe it’s not the political parties that have failed or are failing, but capitalism is failing, or has failed.

For example, the national debt; national debt will rise. This is the nature of capitalism. There is no leader that can reduce the national debt. Raise the interest rate? Then you raise the government payment on interest rates. One of the reason why rates are not on the rise.

The next 5 years will be tough. We have still not passed the banking debt. Personal debt is still on the rise. We are headed for much larger problems. Debt is not wealth. With near ZIRP we are only compounding the problem, debt on debt.

I think in the next 5 to 10 years, UK will be asking the IMF for a bailout.

Defo on the IMF loan.

Our problem is that we do not make enough stuff. Germany is recovering from 2008 fast because they have an export surplus. Their firms reinvest and their citizens save.

The debt will continue to rise whichever party is in power until the deficit is cleared and we go into surplus.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Defo on the IMF loan.

Our problem is that we do not make enough stuff. Germany is recovering from 2008 fast because they have an export surplus. Their firms reinvest and their citizens save.

The debt will continue to rise whichever party is in power until the deficit is cleared and we go into surplus.

Yeah lack of manufacturing is a problem. I would also add mortgages. This nation is obsessed with property to the extent all the eggs are in one basket. Compare this to mainland Europe and it's a different story. I don't remember the last time the likes of Germany had a housing crisis/collapse.

Surprisingly the GBP is hovering at around 1.4 vs USD.

The real question here is how do we increase manufacturing? I would say lower taxes would be a start.

 

[James]

Qualifications can sometimes be overrated, yes there are some examples of poorly educated people who are horrendous, ignorant and rude individuals, however there are exceptions.

 

[Robert]

Yeah lack of manufacturing is a problem. I would also add mortgages. This nation is obsessed with property to the extent all the eggs are in one basket. Compare this to mainland Europe and it's a different story. I don't remember the last time the likes of Germany had a housing crisis/collapse.

Surprisingly the GBP is hovering at around 1.4 vs USD.

The real question here is how do we increase manufacturing? I would say lower taxes would be a start.

We cut corporation tax already.

Stimulation packages to help industry invest, like Obama did.

 

[R3verse Swing]

We cut corporation tax already.

Stimulation packages to help industry invest, like Obama did.

To be fair the QE in UK went mostly to the banks. Obama on the otherhand sent some QE to banks, and invested other QE in infrastructure under guises of simulation bills. In the end all forms of QE just added to debt. USA sitting on 20 Trillion.

UK should cut taxes to single digits. VAT included. Then put a levy charge on every FX transaction (over a £Trillion traded each day). Plus lower taxes (less than EU) will attract businesses. (EU is afraid UK could become a tax haven post Brexit).

We'd take a hit in the short run but long run will be absolutely fine.