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Junaid Khan has to play in these last two games. Simple as that!

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Im quite certain about this, I feel his psychological edge over India is far more threatening that Amir who seems toothless in these conditions. I dont mind if Pakistan have to drop any of their fast bowlers to play him, its their last roll of the dice. He cannot do any worse than the current lot, but with so much to prove and the hunger he has built up after being shunned for Shaheen Afridi, this is maybe the time to unleash the left handed fast bowler to give us a new dimension to this very unthreatening pace attack at the moment.
 
I think he should play aswell but not because he has some sort of psychological edge over India.

I’m sure he’ll get tonked aswell but with our other fast bowlers not doing any good either there’s no reason not to play him.
 
Gun barrel straight trundler, another version of Usman Shinwari.

Does not deserve to bowl for us.
 
Yes has to play. I'm still mystified as to why he isn't playing. He has better control. Also good at the death.
 
And mark my words if he plays he is going to be more effective than our other bowlers
 
At least you know he will give 100 percent . Not against him being given the next game.
 
He deserves a go. Not because he is the hero we need but because the others like Amir, Shinwari and Hasan haven't been any good in this tournament either. It is time to be just and replace one of them with Junaid.
 
Psychological edge over India :))

Our fans will never learn.
 
Psychological edge over India :))

Our fans will never learn.

Here comes Mr know it all but isn’t hired to give professional advice :))

2 matches and you think we are the worst side in the world. Stop being so pessimistic all the time dude
 
Pakistan is a pathetic team, we saw that in the last two games against India, at least in these conditions they are nowhere near India. Its laughable that even though UAE is their home ground still they are unable to give any competition to India. This Indian team is capable of beating Pakistan 10/10 times and with a very big margin.
 
I've called for this for a while now. The bowling attack should comprise of 4 fast bowlers - Junaid, Shaheen, Amir/Hasan, Faheem and two spinners Shadab and Nawaz.

Malik can chip in with some overs too.
 
Didn't Amir have a "psychological edge" over India?

Junaid should play. But not for the reason you have stated.
 
At the very minimum should play v Bangladesh and if he does really well and we win then he should play v India in the final. Amir can't do anything, hasan can't do anything and neither can Faheem. Just try something different.
 
Here comes Mr know it all but isn’t hired to give professional advice :))

2 matches and you think we are the worst side in the world. Stop being so pessimistic all the time dude

Don’t confuse pessimism with reality. I knew this was coming and was warning everyone for over a year, but people were too busy calling me Indian and celebrating wins over minnows and weak teams.

It is not about these 2 games; it is about the fact that we are a very average team that gets pounded by the top teams more often than not.

As far as Junaid is concerned, he has zero psychological edge over India - zero. They have thrashed far better bowlers than him and will thrash him 9/10 times as well. One fluke spell vs India in perfect conditions eons ago means nothing anymore.

Having said that, there is no harm in giving him a go. All the other pacers (except Shaheen) have been rubbish. Maybe Junaid can do better if he is in better form. Rohit and Dhawan are due a failure so if we beat Bangladesh, maybe he can take their wickets.

However, let’s not talk about psychological edge and all that nonsense. We were told that Pakistan will have a mental edge over India because of the Champions Trophy Final, and we saw what happened to that so-called mental edge.

We were also told that the likes of Fakhar, Shadab, Amir, Sarfraz, Asif etc. will not crumble under pressure because they do not carry the scars of being humiliated by India over the years. Again, we saw that mental edge go for a toss.

If we qualify for the final and he plays, he may or may not do well against India, but it has nothing to do with him having wood over India.

He is a nobody in international cricket at the moment and hardly any opposition thinks highly of him. He can barely get a game for Pakistan.
 
Don’t confuse pessimism with reality. I knew this was coming and was warning everyone for over a year, but people were too busy calling me Indian and celebrating wins over minnows and weak teams.

It is not about these 2 games; it is about the fact that we are a very average team that gets pounded by the top teams more often than not.

As far as Junaid is concerned, he has zero psychological edge over India - zero. They have thrashed far better bowlers than him and will thrash him 9/10 times as well. One fluke spell vs India in perfect conditions eons ago means nothing anymore.

Having said that, there is no harm in giving him a go. All the other pacers (except Shaheen) have been rubbish. Maybe Junaid can do better if he is in better form. Rohit and Dhawan are due a failure so if we beat Bangladesh, maybe he can take their wickets.

However, let’s not talk about psychological edge and all that nonsense. We were told that Pakistan will have a mental edge over India because of the Champions Trophy Final, and we saw what happened to that so-called mental edge.

We were also told that the likes of Fakhar, Shadab, Amir, Sarfraz, Asif etc. will not crumble under pressure because they do not carry the scars of being humiliated by India over the years. Again, we saw that mental edge go for a toss.

If we qualify for the final and he plays, he may or may not do well against India, but it has nothing to do with him having wood over India.

He is a nobody in international cricket at the moment and hardly any opposition thinks highly of him. He can barely get a game for Pakistan.

No point arguing with you dude. This is Pakistan cricket and this is the way they are, one minute up and the next minute down. You still have to back these guys to produce confidence from the past. So far, India have not had to do much because they have settled in really well at one single venue. Not Pakistan's fault that they have always been so poor at Dubai.
 
Pakistan is a pathetic team, we saw that in the last two games against India, at least in these conditions they are nowhere near India. Its laughable that even though UAE is their home ground still they are unable to give any competition to India. This Indian team is capable of beating Pakistan 10/10 times and with a very big margin.

noted.
 
His inclusion changed Pakistan's fortunes in the 2017 CT. He single handedly carried our pace attack from 2011 to 2014/ Unfortunately the blind love for Amir put every other pacer in Pakistan on the bench.
 
His inclusion changed Pakistan's fortunes in the 2017 CT. He single handedly carried our pace attack from 2011 to 2014/ Unfortunately the blind love for Amir put every other pacer in Pakistan on the bench.

Very well put.

In 2017, SKY Sports would be doing a lot of segments showing a close analysis of his bowling and emphsizing his importance to the bowling attack. Whereas us fans were more hyped about Hassan Ali and Amir, Junaid kind of went as the unsung hero of the champion's trophy. Not sure how exactly the guy is a 'Trundler'? He was regularly bowling at 140kph in 2017 with decent nip and movement. Unless he has completely lost it a year later is a different story all together. But I still back this guy to do well if given the chance now. Pakistan are one early lbw of Sharma away from producing something different against India.
 
Very well put.

In 2017, SKY Sports would be doing a lot of segments showing a close analysis of his bowling and emphsizing his importance to the bowling attack. Whereas us fans were more hyped about Hassan Ali and Amir, Junaid kind of went as the unsung hero of the champion's trophy. Not sure how exactly the guy is a 'Trundler'? He was regularly bowling at 140kph in 2017 with decent nip and movement. Unless he has completely lost it a year later is a different story all together. But I still back this guy to do well if given the chance now. Pakistan are one early lbw of Sharma away from producing something different against India.

Compare Junaids record in the UAE vs Amir. Junaid can bowl at 130-132 km/hr but in comparison to Amir he is a smart bowler and knows how to get wickets in these conditions and if not that he keeps things tight. I have no idea why Pakistan discarded him as if he had done nothing at all for the country from 2015 onwards.
 
Im quite certain about this, I feel his psychological edge over India is far more threatening that Amir who seems toothless in these conditions. I dont mind if Pakistan have to drop any of their fast bowlers to play him, its their last roll of the dice. He cannot do any worse than the current lot, but with so much to prove and the hunger he has built up after being shunned for Shaheen Afridi, this is maybe the time to unleash the left handed fast bowler to give us a new dimension to this very unthreatening pace attack at the moment.

We were continously being told that Amir had psychological edge over India despite taking 5 wickets in 6 matches and Kohli is his bunny despite dismissing him only once. Whatever happened to that "edge"?
 
We were continously being told that Amir had psychological edge over India despite taking 5 wickets in 6 matches and Kohli is his bunny despite dismissing him only once. Whatever happened to that "edge"?

He cant bowl in Dubai. Dhawan couldnt buy a run on tracks that offered the slightest of assistance to bowlers.
 
when your total reads 168 or 237, no batsman/team will give a jack even if u bring wasim and waqar of their primes... put a decent total, or make them bat first... and same bowlers will gain their teeth back...
 
Dhawan couldnt buy a run on tracks that offered the slightest of assistance to bowlers.

Yeah, buddy that was in red ball cricket cricket in England. If you think you'll get even half as good as those conditions in ODIs then you're in for a rude surprise.

Dhawan is a beast in ODIs. Your bowlers are coming up short on skill. That's all.
 
He should definitely play. He is able to read the batters better than most of our bowlers and is a proven performer on these dead wickets. He can make the batters err when batters think they can dominate him, and more often than not he is able to take their wickets. Plus he can't do worse than the current ones tbh.

Those saying he is not good enough to bowl for us should think about how they are good enough to be fans of Pak Cricket.
 
Don’t confuse pessimism with reality. I knew this was coming and was warning everyone for over a year, but people were too busy calling me Indian and celebrating wins over minnows and weak teams.

It is not about these 2 games; it is about the fact that we are a very average team that gets pounded by the top teams more often than not.

As far as Junaid is concerned, he has zero psychological edge over India - zero. They have thrashed far better bowlers than him and will thrash him 9/10 times as well. One fluke spell vs India in perfect conditions eons ago means nothing anymore.

Having said that, there is no harm in giving him a go. All the other pacers (except Shaheen) have been rubbish. Maybe Junaid can do better if he is in better form. Rohit and Dhawan are due a failure so if we beat Bangladesh, maybe he can take their wickets.

However, let’s not talk about psychological edge and all that nonsense. We were told that Pakistan will have a mental edge over India because of the Champions Trophy Final, and we saw what happened to that so-called mental edge.

We were also told that the likes of Fakhar, Shadab, Amir, Sarfraz, Asif etc. will not crumble under pressure because they do not carry the scars of being humiliated by India over the years. Again, we saw that mental edge go for a toss.

If we qualify for the final and he plays, he may or may not do well against India, but it has nothing to do with him having wood over India.

He is a nobody in international cricket at the moment and hardly any opposition thinks highly of him. He can barely get a game for Pakistan.

not 1 but 2 fluke spells against India plus some flukes in Tests against other quality opposition on dead subcontinental tracks plus one fluke good tournament (CT17) and good fluke record in List A and FC. cricket.
 
This is Junaid Khan we're talking about right? And not Glenn McGrath?

he's just another bowler, may be a slight improvement on what we have seen so far, but stop expecting miracles from the #5 pacer in the squad
 
Physiological edge :)))
Amir had that Physiological edge after CT, what happened to him ?
At the end of the day, skills and ability to handle pressure matters not Physiological edge.
 
Junaid should play but only because everyone else has failed. Not because he's something special.
 
Good post! But who will he play in for?
Amir - unbenchable.
Afridi - been our best bowler-
Hasan Ali- Best bowler in the last year - adds balance as a right arm fast
Shadab - allrounder/spinner
Nawaz- allrounder/spinner
 
Pathetic is a strong word my friend. I would not got super confident with team India, a quick wicket or two in the finals and its all downhill for your guys from there.
 
I really like Junaid , I feel like he always puts in his best and has great death bowling skills. But, I dont see him doing any better than our other pacers. Regardless, I would still play him for Amir ( sigh ), because I am sure Junaid will be bowling his heart out to prove himself. Besides , he had done really well in the UAE before his injury
 
Amir is out of form. We can drop any pace bowler at the moment for Junaid.
 
Good post! But who will he play in for?
Amir - unbenchable.
Afridi - been our best bowler-
Hasan Ali- Best bowler in the last year - adds balance as a right arm fast
Shadab - allrounder/spinner
Nawaz- allrounder/spinner

it has to be amir.
 
Don’t confuse pessimism with reality. I knew this was coming and was warning everyone for over a year, but people were too busy calling me Indian and celebrating wins over minnows and weak teams.

It is not about these 2 games; it is about the fact that we are a very average team that gets pounded by the top teams more often than not.

As far as Junaid is concerned, he has zero psychological edge over India - zero. They have thrashed far better bowlers than him and will thrash him 9/10 times as well. One fluke spell vs India in perfect conditions eons ago means nothing anymore.

Having said that, there is no harm in giving him a go. All the other pacers (except Shaheen) have been rubbish. Maybe Junaid can do better if he is in better form. Rohit and Dhawan are due a failure so if we beat Bangladesh, maybe he can take their wickets.

However, let’s not talk about psychological edge and all that nonsense. We were told that Pakistan will have a mental edge over India because of the Champions Trophy Final, and we saw what happened to that so-called mental edge.

We were also told that the likes of Fakhar, Shadab, Amir, Sarfraz, Asif etc. will not crumble under pressure because they do not carry the scars of being humiliated by India over the years. Again, we saw that mental edge go for a toss.

If we qualify for the final and he plays, he may or may not do well against India, but it has nothing to do with him having wood over India.

He is a nobody in international cricket at the moment and hardly any opposition thinks highly of him. He can barely get a game for Pakistan.

Pak fans should not forget that this team is young. and currently has no match with the likes of SA IND NZ and ENG. its disappointing but Pak fans are not different to Bangla Fans.:ssmith
 
Junaid for Amir or Hasan, probably Amir. Pakistan have to hold on to their catches whoever plays
 
Of course he can play, just don't expect any miracles. Amir's fall from grace with the new ball isn't going to transform Junaid into a world beater, but he might have more penetration than the other new ball options for what that's worth.
 
Looks like ive got my wish. Please dont let me down Junaid
 
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