K. Williamson, V. Kohli, J. Root & Steve Smith are the 'Big Four' of world cricket's premier batsmen

[Ali Bohra]

K. Williamson, V. Kohli, J. Root & Steve Smith are the 'Big Four' of world cricket's premier batsmen

The New zealand captian Williamson said each has Different strength.

''Smith and Root are both great players as well. All of us are different Players, have different strengths. Trying to stick to his own gameplans, that's the sort of beauty of this game. That everyone can do things differently and have a bit of success.

Williamson prefer to be modest and says he has ''learnt watching virat kohli'' terming the indian swashbuckler a ''great player''.

 

[kingusama92]

It's true.

Each one is unique in many ways, but the hunger for runs is equal in all of them.

 

[Ab Fan]

All four are world class players.

Root is the best currently in tests.

Virat in odis and t20s.

Williamson himself is a world class test cricketer.

 

[Zeshan547]

Williamson have potential but on basis of stats and performance he doesn't belong to this elite group as of now.

 

[aroor]

Steven Smith for me. I still remember how every PPer mocked him. Is that [MENTION=1889]Saqs[/MENTION] who created that thread?

That is one of the only two epic threads here on PP. Another one is "Raina epitomize everything that is wrong in modern day cricket".

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Wait a year and you'll add Asad and Azher to the list. Only a matter of time.

 

[Ali Bohra]

Willamson is at par with root Smith & kohli in matter of stats. Or i should say in terms of performance..

 

[Varun]

Wait a year and you'll add Asad and Azher to the list. Only a matter of time.

In my opinion they're middling players at best. Bit like Mohammad Yousuf and Mahela Jayawardene to the Pontings and Tendulkars of this world.

 

[Sandeep]

Not sure if Willaimson can already be compared with Kohli, Smith or Root.. I don't think he is as impactful as the other three as yet. He definitely has the talent and temperament though..

 

[street cricketer]

I think Williamson lacks an attacking gear which will hold him back in LOIs. Every batsman has his own strengths and weaknesses but I feel Root is the most rounded of the lot.

 

[Pete Rose]

Meh steve smith and kohli....
will rate him when the former improves his record against us and the latter plays a test match against.
not that I am saying that they cant.

 

[Pete Rose]

Wait a year and you'll add Asad and Azher to the list. Only a matter of time.

Well, Mickey Arthur has done the ultimate PP act, has loosely compared Shafiq to Tendulkar.
This surpassed the Kohli vs. Akmal thread, but at least it wont be as laughable as that comparison.
FWIW, I think both these guys have the tools to really enhance their reputation in Australia.

 

[Executioner]

Abdv?

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

Wait a year and you'll add Asad and Azher to the list. Only a matter of time.

Lol, no way.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Wait a year and you'll add Asad and Azher to the list. Only a matter of time.

Asad and Azhar are older and less talented.Maybe Shafiq can join them but he is inferior to all of them(statswise).Maybe batting at #3 will help him?

 

[street cricketer]

Abdv?

It's a group of young batsmen in the 25-30 age group.

 

[Pete Rose]

Asad and Azhar are older and less talented.Maybe Shafiq can join them but he is inferior to all of them(statswise).Maybe batting at #3 will help him?

Asad's career is interesting: he has batted at number 6 for 43 of his 45 tests. And quite a few of those tests have come in an era where his runs were an added bonus but not necessarily a singular difference to the game. That's the curse of the number 6 position, if you do well its considered an easy position to bat on since you are 'shielded' and if you fail its assumed you dont have the pedigree (never mind that the second new ball comes in around the same time).
Shafiq averages 45 at number and is at number 7 in all time run aggregates at this position. So if a player is averaging 45 at number 6, chances are he should kick on to bigger things at number 3. But for that he really needs to make very very big scores against West Indies so that he is comfortable with this position by time Pakistan get to ANZ.

 

[Pete Rose]

Lol, no way.

for perspective YK averages 42 at the number six position where Shafiq averages 45 and ahzar averages 67 against Australia in ad admittedly small sample of 4 tests.

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

for perspective YK averages 42 at the number six position where Shafiq averages 45 and ahzar averages 67 against Australia in ad admittedly small sample of 4 tests.

Career average matters more.

 

[Pete Rose]

Career average matters more.

no. positions you bat affect career averages.

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

no. positions you bat affect career averages.

Even if Asad bats at 3, will still not average more than 45, just because of his so not so good temperament.

 

[Pete Rose]

Even if Asad bats at 3, will still not average more than 45, just because of his so not so good temperament.

- subjective temperament measure included: thats ok, fans are allowed all kinds of rational and irrational biases
- kohli averages 19 at number 3 (thats ok he bats at 4 anyhow)
- if he averages 45 overall, after the next 8 matches he will be batting at average of above 50 for that period.

what else you got?

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

- subjective temperament measure included: thats ok, fans are allowed all kinds of rational and irrational biases
- kohli averages 19 at number 3 (thats ok he bats at 4 anyhow)
- if he averages 45 overall, after the next 8 matches he will be batting at average of above 50 for that period.

what else you got?

I didn't get your point.

 

[Pete Rose]

I didn't get your point.

just saying that by your measure he will end up averaging that 45 at number 3
and the positions you bat have an impact on your average.

 

[Aman]

Why is KW being called out?

Root has 2 centuries outside of England and Kohli has the weakest Test record of the 4.

 

[anuk]

- subjective temperament measure included: thats ok, fans are allowed all kinds of rational and irrational biases
- kohli averages 19 at number 3 (thats ok he bats at 4 anyhow)
- if he averages 45 overall, after the next 8 matches he will be batting at average of above 50 for that period.

what else you got?

i dont get this either

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

just saying that by your measure he will end up averaging that 45 at number 3
and the positions you bat have an impact on your average.

He won't even average 45, not even a 45 averaging player, his temperament is not good enough, regardless of his positions.

 

[Pete Rose]

He won't even average 45, not even a 45 averaging player, his temperament is not good enough, regardless of his positions.

sure, and i am saying thats all subjective, not that theres anything wrong with that.

 

[Saqs]

Steven Smith for me. I still remember how every PPer mocked him. Is that [MENTION=1889]Saqs[/MENTION] who created that thread?

That is one of the only two epic threads here on PP. Another one is "Raina epitomize everything that is wrong in modern day cricket".

That thread was caveated.

 

[Executioner]

It's a group of young batsmen in the 25-30 age group.

I saw the word "premier"

 

[sully3]

In my opinion they're middling players at best. Bit like Mohammad Yousuf and Mahela Jayawardene to the Pontings and Tendulkars of this world.

yeah middling players like Dravid, Laxman and Gangly, you put Moyo and jawardene in the same category.


Also if such an awful batsman with awful technique to watch like Steeven Smith can become world class for scoring runs only then so can Azhar Ali

 

[Ab Fan]

Tests : Root> Williamson> Smith > Kohli

Smith is overrated and hasn't yet delivered in tough batting conditions or when the team is reeling down like they do in SC or England where he didn't scored in games his team was losing.But his ability to convert 30s-40s into big hundreds makes him a world class batsmen.

He can take the game away from opposition if he gets set at the crease.

Kohli is the best of lot in limited overs.

 

[Ab Fan]

Why is KW being called out?

Root has 2 centuries outside of England and Kohli has the weakest Test record of the 4.

Agreed. He would have hit a century in SA if he would have got some support from his teammates. Its always a big deal to carry a weaker team all on your shoulders.

Williamson is definitely a top tier bat going around.

 

[Ab Fan]

Azhar, Shafiq and Chandimal will form a lower tier to these four greats.

 

[JattMaula]

Don't think Kohli will ever average above 50.

 

[street cricketer]

I saw the word "premier"

Of course they are the premier batsmen. It's been quite a while since AB scored a ton in Test cricket and wasn't too impressive in the last ODI series as well.

 

[Sandeep]

Azhar, Shafiq and Chandimal will form a lower tier to these four greats.

Add Rahane, Bairstow to that list..

 

[Ali Bohra]

Ab is great player.. No doubt but he always falls short on delivering on big stage where it matters..

And if we look at Kohli & root both are delivering or i must say contributing valuable run.. look at wt20 in india both performed exceptionally.. Willamson and Smith are not far behind of this two though...

 

[Pete Rose]

Azhar, Shafiq and Chandimal will form a lower tier to these four greats.

Sounds about right

 

[Ab Fan]

Add Rahane, Bairstow to that list..

Bairstow should be added.

Rahane is better than each of them. He is India's best test batsmen as Kohli has still not become a prolific run maker in tests.

However, since he lacks the aura and charm he doesn't get mentioned along the young fab four. Kohli makes it to that club conveniently due to his LOI exploits where he is set to become one of the greatest batsmen of all time.

 

[Ab Fan]

Fab four means Smith, Root, Williamson, Kohli.

 

[sivaji]

Ab is great player.. No doubt but he always falls short on delivering on big stage where it matters..

And if we look at Kohli & root both are delivering or i must say contributing valuable run.. look at wt20 in india both performed exceptionally.. Willamson and Smith are not far behind of this two though...

Which big stage that AB failed to deliver while Root did?

 

[sivaji]

Root is masively overrated.
Smith
Williamson
Kohli
rahane/Root

Smith also has done well in the WC semi and final
Williamson has an amazing test record, scoring hundreds everywhere(almost)
Kohli was bad in England but was out od the world in Australia. Done well in SA and other countries.
Root has been good mostly in England

 

[Buffet]

Rahane may be better than these 4. He has played in so many conditions first time and scored runs everywhere. Talking about only test format here.

 

[Sandeep]

Rahane may be better than these 4. He has played in so many conditions first time and scored runs everywhere. Talking about only test format here.

Of course. Rahane in LOIs is the worst

 

[sivaji]

Rahane may be better than these 4. He has played in so many conditions first time and scored runs everywhere. Talking about only test format here.

Ya he is good but he is a bit older than the 4 I think. Williamson is the guy for all conditions

 

[Hasan123]

I agree with Kane that they are different types of players that's what makes them so good to watch

 

[HitWicket]

Root is masively overrated.
Smith
Williamson
Kohli
rahane/Root

Smith also has done well in the WC semi and final
Williamson has an amazing test record, scoring hundreds everywhere(almost)
Kohli was bad in England but was out od the world in Australia. Done well in SA and other countries.
Root has been good mostly in England

If Root is massively overrated because he hasn't really performed outside England what does that say about Kohli and Williamson who both average less than him away from home in tests?

 

[Sachin136]

If Root is massively overrated because he hasn't really performed outside England what does that say about Kohli and Williamson who both average less than him away from home in tests?

If you take out teams outside the top 7, Kohli averages 47.30, Williamson averages 41.72 and Root averages 41.84. It is just a myth that Kohli is behind the others in tests. He only has to score more prolifically at home, which might be difficult considering the pitches India puts out now.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

 

[HitWicket]

If you take out teams outside the top 7, Kohli averages 47.30, Williamson averages 41.72 and Root averages 41.84. It is just a myth that Kohli is behind the others in tests. He only has to score more prolifically at home, which might be difficult considering the pitches India puts out now.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

Why should the fact that Kohli has been pretty average against teams outside the top 7 get removed from the stats?

 

[Sachin136]

If you take out teams outside the top 7, Kohli averages 47.30, Williamson averages 41.72 and Root averages 41.84. It is just a myth that Kohli is behind the others in tests. He only has to score more prolifically at home, which might be difficult considering the pitches India puts out now.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

I included West Indies for Williamson by accident. Taking that out, his average drops to 39.60. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

 

[Sachin136]

Why should the fact that Kohli has been pretty average against teams outside the top 7 get removed from the stats?

It is common to take out weak teams like West Indies, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. Kohli, Root and Williamson haven't even played in Bangladesh and only Williamson has played in Zimbabwe.

 

[Bilal7]

Kane, Root, Smith and Kohli vs Starc, Amir, Rabada and Boult. That's the batters and bowlers who will be at the top come the year 2020. Only mentioning players that will be stealing the headlines in all formats.

Need to find a couple of good spinners too and cricket will look very healthy. Shah and Ashwin are getting too old.

 

[Bilal7]

If you take out teams outside the top 7, Kohli averages 47.30, Williamson averages 41.72 and Root averages 41.84. It is just a myth that Kohli is behind the others in tests. He only has to score more prolifically at home, which might be difficult considering the pitches India puts out now.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

No disrespect but Kohli did cash in big time on the flattest pitches of the last ten years during his last tour of Australia. Root hasn't been on those pitches yet. Something to keep in mind.

 

[sivaji]

No disrespect but Kohli did cash in big time on the flattest pitches of the last ten years during his last tour of Australia. Root hasn't been on those pitches yet. Something to keep in mind.

He was there last time and got destroyed by M Johnson. Dont tell me the pitches werent flat. Australian pitches have been flat for more than a decade now.

 

[sivaji]

If Root is massively overrated because he hasn't really performed outside England what does that say about Kohli and Williamson who both average less than him away from home in tests?

It does say that Kohli has made impactful hundreds and Root was getting fifties.

 

[Rayyman]

After seeing them bat, Williamson is the best in tests. Kohli is the best in odis. Smith is my fav

 

[street cricketer]

No disrespect but Kohli did cash in big time on the flattest pitches of the last ten years during his last tour of Australia. Root hasn't been on those pitches yet. Something to keep in mind.

So do you disregard Younis' double and Asad's hundreds in England because they came on flat pitches too?

 

[Bilal7]

So do you disregard Younis' double and Asad's hundreds in England because they came on flat pitches too?

Those innings would have been a lot special if the pitch did have juice in it. However, there is no comparison between the current English conditions and the current Australian conditions for batting.

Australian pitches have gotten especially bad since their last home Ashes.

 

[street cricketer]

Those innings would have been a lot special if the pitch did have juice in it. However, there is no comparison between the current English conditions and the current Australian conditions for batting.

Australian pitches have gotten especially bad since their last home Ashes.

But the current English conditions aren't any better. There was hardly any lateral movement in the last series and resembled the Aussie conditions mostly except for Lords which was on the slower side.

 

[Bilal7]

But the current English conditions aren't any better. There was hardly any lateral movement in the last series and resembled the Aussie conditions mostly except for Lords which was on the slower side.

Much better actually. The pitches for the first and last matches assisted spin during the latter days, as some English pitches generally do. Edgbaston supported seam movement and the English got to reverse the ball too, something that you didn't see at all in that infamous Aus vs Ind series. There was cloud cover as well, in patches, especially during the Lord's test.

The Sri Lankan tourists will also tell you a thing or two about English conditions. So will Virat Kohli himself.

 

[street cricketer]

Much better actually. The pitches for the first and last matches assisted spin during the latter days, as some English pitches generally do. Edgbaston supported seam movement and the English got to reverse the ball too, something that you didn't see at all in that infamous Aus vs Ind series. There was cloud cover as well, in patches, especially during the Lord's test.

The Sri Lankan tourists will also tell you a thing or two about English conditions. So will Virat Kohli himself.

That's the whole point. You saw great movement during the past series in England. But all the wickets in the Pakistan series were roads with no movement whatsoever. Only a bit of bounce was there in Manchester and Oval. I am talking about swing and seam movement and not spin. Even in the Aus vs Ind series, Adelaide and Sydney offered turn. But there wasn't really a difference between the two sets of wickets as far as pace bowling is concerned. England prepared roads to negate the Pak bowling attack but it ended up playing into Pakistan's hands. Much of the series was played in bright sunny weather (unlike the cold damp conditions of the SL series), so there wasn't much swing to work with either and whatever little grass was there got baked in the sun.

I mean when Clouderson cannot move the ball in England, you know the wicket is a road. I'm sure you would've seen the difference between him in the 2010 series and this series (or in the 2014 India series or even in the last SL series where he was moving the ball very well).

 

[sivaji]

Australian pitches have beenroads for more than a decade. I dont remember anyone being as successful as Kohli was there.

 

[Bilal7]

That's the whole point. You saw great movement during the past series in England. But all the wickets in the Pakistan series were roads with no movement whatsoever. Only a bit of bounce was there in Manchester and Oval. I am talking about swing and seam movement and not spin. Even in the Aus vs Ind series, Adelaide and Sydney offered turn. But there wasn't really a difference between the two sets of wickets as far as pace bowling is concerned. England prepared roads to negate the Pak bowling attack but it ended up playing into Pakistan's hands. Much of the series was played in bright sunny weather (unlike the cold damp conditions of the SL series), so there wasn't much swing to work with either and whatever little grass was there got baked in the sun.

I mean when Clouderson cannot move the ball in England, you know the wicket is a road. I'm sure you would've seen the difference between him in the 2010 series and this series (or in the 2014 India series or even in the last SL series where he was moving the ball very well).

The pitches that were laid out for Pakistan were flatter than normal, yes, but they are not the regular English pitches. You said that the current English conditions are no better than conditions in Australia which is a completely false statement.

There was still enough for the bowlers to make it a great series and not the farce that the most recent Aus vs Ind encounter turnes out to be. There was swing on offer in patches and seam movement was found in every match which is why guys like Sohail and Woakes found so much success. The duke ball naturally offers more lateral movement than the one you find in Australia.

 

[Executioner]

Of course they are the premier batsmen. It's been quite a while since AB scored a ton in Test cricket and wasn't too impressive in the last ODI series as well.

In 2015 VK was having a poor run off-form but we know a player of his caliber would ensure those months of failure as a simply "one-off". I am sure it was a lean patch for ABDV as well. While ABDV is an underperform in ICC tournaments, he still is one of the better batsman in world cricket.

 

[street cricketer]

The pitches that were laid out for Pakistan were flatter than normal, yes, but they are not the regular English pitches. You said that the current English conditions are no better than conditions in Australia which is a completely false statement.

There was still enough for the bowlers to make it a great series and not the farce that the most recent Aus vs Ind encounter turnes out to be. There was swing on offer in patches and seam movement was found in every match which is why guys like Sohail and Woakes found so much success. The duke ball naturally offers more lateral movement than the one you find in Australia.

I very much agree that the duke ball swings more than the kookaburra. And sure the duke ball must have done a bit more than the kookaburra in Australia. But there was no real significant difference between the conditions between the series. Both the wickets and the conditions were unconducive to seam and swing bowling in England.

Batting in England (or any place for that matter) is dependent on two factors - the conditions and the pitch. But the conditions play perhaps the biggest role in England among all places. On the same wicket, a duke ball will behave differently under bright sunny weather as opposed to under cold damp or rainy weather. Grass cover helps the seam movement of the ball and live grass helps the ball skid through and come at a faster pace than normal. However a sunny day can bake any grass that is available within two sessions and whatever juice the pitch had may die out quickly (which is what happens in most test matches in New Zealand). Browse through the photos of the Eng-SL series and Eng-Pak series and compare the conditions. Compare how many batsmen were batting in the SL series with their jumpers on and how many fielders were jiggling the warmer in their pockets to keep themselves warm on the field. Durham probably was the coldest of the lot. However Pak-Eng series was played in bright sunny weather for the most part described often by the commies as "pristine batting conditions" and the only time I remember seeing some cloud cover was during the first day of the Edgbaston and Oval test. All the wickets were well prepared wickets with no grass cover and it's near impossible for the ball to seam around on a well prepared pitch unless there are wide cracks and ridges on it. Only the Oval wicket had grass cover (which was a welcome change from the rest of the well shaved wickets) but even that was described by George Dobell as a "sheep under the cover of a wolf". That wicket did have more pace and bounce than the rest of the disappointing wickets and Riaz used it to full effect hurrying up the batsmen with his 150k pace and bounce. But still there was no exaggerated lateral movement there.

Two of the most lethal bowlers in the world when the conditions are in their favour are Anderson and Amir. You saw how they both wreaked havoc in the 2010 series. Heck Amir was turning hooks with his swing and seam movement in the Asia cup match. Isn't it surprising that none of the two were able to gain any real lateral movement and it was the fast medium line and length pacers in Woakes and Sohail who took the most wickets. The English bowlers averaged 22 in the preceding SL series but 31 in the Pak series (Pak bowlers averaged even higher around 40s) and it's quite telling. So it's quite facetious to totally disregard one performance because it came on "easier batting conditions" (which I don't deny btw) but rate other performances greatly when it also came under similar conditions. I'm pretty sure the tune would change if Younis or Azhar were to get 4 centuries from 4 matches in the upcoming Australian tour.

 

[street cricketer]

In 2015 VK was having a poor run off-form but we know a player of his caliber would ensure those months of failure as a simply "one-off". I am sure it was a lean patch for ABDV as well. While ABDV is an underperform in ICC tournaments, he still is one of the better batsman in world cricket.

The 4 batsmen are often grouped together mainly because all 4 are top batsmen in the world and belong to a similar age group. You could argue for Warner to be included in that but the reason AB and Amla aren't included is because they are experienced batsmen and older than these 4. It's the same reason why Starc, Amir, Rabada (and Fizz) are often grouped together whereas Jimmy Anderson and Steyn are left out eventhough they are better at this stage.

 

[Aman]

Australian pitches have beenroads for more than a decade. I dont remember anyone being as successful as Kohli was there.

KW before the D/N Test.

140 - last batsmen out, had to score quick runs.
59
166 - threw his wicket away from boredom.
32*

 

[Haroon786]

Smith's the best IMO.

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

YK is the best, followed by others.

 

[Zeshan547]

YK is the best, followed by others.

only on roads,,,,,,,,

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

only on roads,,,,,,,,

What roads? YK is ahead, others are young.

 

[HitWicket]

YK is ahead, others are young.

Wait, you were joking right?

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

Wait, you were joking right?

YK is the best Test batsman in the world.

 

[Markhor]

Root can sort out his record in Australia. He has the back foot game.

That 2013/14 series saw Mitchell Johnson in irresistable form, no batsmen in the world could've foiled him.

He's developed as a batsman since then. His main weakness is his temperament. These modern batsmen love getting bat on ball, they always want to keep the runs flowing but can do something silly if frustrated.

Pakistan in the innings where they got Root cheaply bowled dry at him and he eventually gave his wicket away.

 

[HitWicket]

YK is the best Test batsman in the world.

Now I can't tell whether youre continuing to kid around or actually think what you're saying is true. Worrying if it's the 2nd option .

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

Now I can't tell whether youre continuing to kid around or actually think what you're saying is true. Worrying if it's the 2nd option .

I am not worried about my opinions, even if I am speaking the truth.

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

Root can sort out his record in Australia. He has the back foot game.

That 2013/14 series saw Mitchell Johnson in irresistable form, no batsmen in the world could've foiled him.

He's developed as a batsman since then. His main weakness is his temperament. These modern batsmen love getting bat on ball, they always want to keep the runs flowing but can do something silly if frustrated.

Pakistan in the innings where they got Root cheaply bowled dry at him and he eventually gave his wicket away.

This sums up the modern batsmen, well said.

 

[yasir_shah_fan]

I am not worried about my opinions, even if I am speaking the truth.

I'm a die hard YK fan and he's an amazing batsman but not even in the top 5 for me LOL this is some b***s***!

Root, Williamson, Smith, Kohli and Amla are all better.

He's about the same level as someone like Rahane who both just miss out on that top 5 list...

Just to make it clear we're not talking about achievements, we're talking about current affairs and how they fare atm...

 

[yasir_shah_fan]

only on roads,,,,,,,,

The oval had the most in it for the bowlers. Sky actually measured and made an index to produce comparisons between Lords, Old Trafford, Edgbaston and Oval on pace and bounce.

Oval had the most pace and bounce than any wicket during that series. It was also the greenest out of all the wickets out there as well.

Seems like you have no idea what you're talking about to be bluntly honest...