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The rancour and hostility towards Mohammad Amir for retiring from Test cricket has really taken me aback.

Someone else can do the same for Shahid Afridi, but I thought that I should compile a list of when Imran Khan refused to play for Pakistan.

1981-82 - went on strike against Javed Miandad, missed first two Tests v Sri Lanka, then returned when Miandad agreed to step down. Imran became the new captain.

1984-85 - unavailable to play in the series in New Zealand because he was too busy playing for New South Wales.

1987-88 - unavailable to play at home against England as he had temporarily retired.

1988-89 - unavailable to play at home against Australia as it was too hot.

1990-91 - unavailable to play at home against New Zealand as it was too hot.

Consider too that when Shahid Afridi was captain of Pakistan in England in 2010, he ran away half-way through the Tests which is how Salman Butt become the skipper.
 
What’s the point of this thread?
 
Amir is not comparable to Imran khan in his status. Not even 25%.

Besides even when Amir was available there was a legitimate argument that he doesn’t make the team on merit.
 
Play your best team. Don't let your vanity make you field a weakened team.

Amir has to come out and declare his availability first for the team to decide favourably on him.
It doesn't set a good example for the management to beg him to play and they really shouldn't. Irrespective of his credentials, he doesn't enjoy a great status after what happened in 2010, so it is Amir who needs to make the effort, but the point is, that he doesn't want to.
 
Amir has to come out and declare his availability first for the team to decide favourably on him.
It doesn't set a good example for the management to beg him to play and they really shouldn't. Irrespective of his credentials, he doesn't enjoy a great status after what happened in 2010, so it is Amir who needs to make the effort, but the point is, that he doesn't want to.
Amir was misused by Misbah in a 3 pacer attack, and his role not became do-able when Sarfraz and Mickey started to play 4 quicks.

If I were him and I knew that the rank incompetent who had destroyed my comeback was somehow back in charge, I’d be reluctant too.

Read the text of what Roy Keane said to his coach Mick McCarthy in the Saipan Incident. That’s how Amir must feel about getting Misbah back to ruin his career all over again.

Amir did something bad and paid the price. Only to be punished twice more by having to play under Misbah!
 
Play your best team. Don't let your vanity make you field a weakened team.

Weakened team?

I thought Shaheen Shah was a superior version of Starc and Naseem the reincarnation of Fred Truman. And Abbas averages 20 in Test cricket and 16 in England.

By your own comparisons we ARE playing the best bowling attack.

Abbas HAS to play given his record. So who do we drop? Fred Truman or Starc on steroids?
 
Come on. This is like begging your ex who cheated you and then dumped you a day before marriage to come back in your life. You want an entire nation to collectively beg to legend Sir Amir?
 
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Yeah, there is nothing wrong in picking and choosing tests. You are allowed to retire any time.
 
Why do you overhype Pakistan players so much? Comparing Imran Khan and Amir is so weird.

Amir would probably keep things tight but not pick up wickets like 2016. You are making out as though Amir is a Wasim Akram
 
Why do you overhype Pakistan players so much? Comparing Imran Khan and Amir is so weird.

Amir would probably keep things tight but not pick up wickets like 2016. You are making out as though Amir is a Wasim Akram
I’m not comparing the players - I’m comparing the response.

Amir has turned his back on selection once - Imran did it on 5 different occasions.

Yet Amir is treated as if it is an act of treason. When at Southampton you need him whereas he doesn’t need you.
 
Exactly the reason why I always consider Kapil Dev the greater cricketer as he played 130 tests straight without a single break despite greater work load than Kham saheb and while performing better against West Indies.
 
So
Amir=Imran Khan the GOAT, in fact better in UK
Shaheen=superior version of Starc
Naseem=Trueman 2.0
Babar=better than Steve Smith
Masood=Cook
Rizwan=better than Kock, Dhoni, Watling

Am I missing some other gem comparisons [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]? Is Shadab rated higher than Shakib and Faheem above Kapil yet? Funnily enough no such love for Yasir who has been the biggest matchwinner for his side for most part of the 2010s.

If these comparisons hold true this Pakistani team is probably comparable to the great Aussie side of 15 years back. No way can they lose tests or drop a single match in ICC tournaments.

Delusions and fanatical overrating have never helped anyone on this planet. Funny to see that most Pakistani fans here are grounded, realistic and sensible but someone from UK/Aus deems it fit to make ridiculous comparisons. Surely can't be serious, jinxing or trolling? I find both equally tasteless.
 
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Exactly the reason why I always consider Kapil Dev the greater cricketer as he played 130 tests straight without a single break despite greater work load than Kham saheb and while performing better against West Indies.

Imran was significantly better when he played though, more than compensating for this Kapil is just a slightly better Chris Cairns
 
I’m not comparing the players - I’m comparing the response.

Amir has turned his back on selection once - Imran did it on 5 different occasions.

Yet Amir is treated as if it is an act of treason. When at Southampton you need him whereas he doesn’t need you.

You can't compare...

Its silly to even try and I'm not talking about their respective abilities.
I am talking about the different eras they played in.
For one thing IK was not on a contract, instead he was plying his trade in Sussex, for four months of the year...games every few days.. This followed by extremely competitive cricket in Australia.

Also, we're not talking about some silly T20's or even 50 over odi's. We're talking three day matches and 60 over odi's...

I could go on but this is boring now..
 
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LMAO at OP's agenda.
He's comparing perhaps the greatest and most influential Asian player to a match fixer.
Making a joke of himself.
 
So
Amir=Imran Khan the GOAT, in fact better in UK
Shaheen=superior version of Starc
Naseem=Trueman 2.0
Babar=better than Steve Smith
Masood=Cook
Rizwan=better than Kock, Dhoni, Watling

Am I missing some other gem comparisons [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]? Is Shadab rated higher than Shakib and Faheem above Kapil yet? Funnily enough no such love for Yasir who has been the biggest matchwinner for his side for most part of the 2010s.

If these comparisons hold true this Pakistani team is probably comparable to the great Aussie side of 15 years back. No way can they lose tests or drop a single match in ICC tournaments.

Delusions and fanatical overrating have never helped anyone on this planet. Funny to see that most Pakistani fans here are grounded, realistic and sensible but someone from UK/Aus deems it fit to make ridiculous comparisons. Surely can't be serious, jinxing or trolling? I find both equally tasteless.

He is successful in getting you guys involved & gullible PAK fans excited - I don't respond now for any such player to player comparison, but just point out when he tries to establish on something factually incorrect. If Naseem is the incarnation of Fred Truman, then that's great for the game - I don't mind.
 
I’m not comparing the players - I’m comparing the response.

Amir has turned his back on selection once - Imran did it on 5 different occasions.

Yet Amir is treated as if it is an act of treason. When at Southampton you need him whereas he doesn’t need you.

Pakistan doesn't need players like Amir who choose when they turn up and lack the heart for test cricket.

He isn't treated like he committed treason. He retired from tests and isn't being selected due to that.

Stop making things up to suit your agendas.
 
I’m not comparing the players - I’m comparing the response.

Amir has turned his back on selection once - Imran did it on 5 different occasions.

Yet Amir is treated as if it is an act of treason. When at Southampton you need him whereas he doesn’t need you.

No, you compared player to player - I can paste the line where you said Amir is better than Imran Khan ever was in such conditions..... I belive that was not for Imran Khan Sr., rather the Prime Minister one.

Coming to the response - you are not correct either. In fact, WY has explained perfectly why Amir is not considered: he is retired, and not ready for red ball game. More importantly, we haven't prepared him for the Red ball series. I do tend to believe that guy Waquar Younis knows few tricks more than us regarding the readiness and match fitness of a fast bowler for a five day game after retiring a year back and hardly (if any) playing any FC games in between.

Coming to the five "refusals", I am not sure what is your source of information, but I did follow Imran's career quite passionately, and I see lots of incorrect information there. Here is my version of the "refusals"

1981-82: Imran actually was among very few players who remained neutral in that saga - there were probably 9 known seniors (I can name most, but not required) including his cousin was part of the revolt but he kept himself silent. He was not even considered for Captaincy at that point. Air Marshall Noor Khan was PCB Chairman then and he wasn't submissive to the players demand, but he asked Javed to step down and appointed Khan as Captain, sighting that it won't be any issue for Javed in near future. I am not sure what was the reason Khan didn't play first two Tests (SRL), but it was never as a protest to Captain. Four years later Imran made a comeback in 1985 under Javed and he was offered Captaincy immediately, which he declined and allowed Javed to complete his pre-agreed tenure. This is one reason despite having on & off the field differences, Javed never had any issues with Captain Imran on cricket field.

1984-85: That's blunt lie and I believe you have read "All-round View". After almost two years of injury lay-off, Imran started to bowl sometimes in Nov-December 1984 and he was no way in shape for fast bowling. When PAK team was being selected (for NZ), he himself asked them not to consider him. He was looking for some FC games to regain his fitness and NSW came with the opportunity (Via IC I believe, Aussies didn't hire foreigners much for their domestics) - he won the Shield with NSW batting at 5 and bowled lots of overs - I think he played 6 games and was player of the season (was MoM in the Final as well). By the time PAK returned from NZ for the B&H Mini WSC, Imran made himself available and played under Javed. He played first game for NSW sometimes in late Nov, PAK traveled to NZ a month later, by the time he had just 2-3 FC games in 23 months .......

1987-88: No, he was permanently retired, only to come back on the request of President of PAK. And, he announced that retirement over a year back from the date - in fact, after the Final of Perth Challenge Cup Jan, 1987; he waved at the fans as well (probably sighting his last trip to Australia)

1988-89: This one I am not sure. But, in past, Australia always toured Asia during off seasons because of their domestic season cutting path - either between SEP-OCT or MAR-APR-MAY. He has played two other series against AUS at home in even hotter conditions, therefore I don't think weather was any issue there - fitness may be (by that time he was 36) but definitely not weather.

1990-91: This one I am sure - he wrote it in his book. Without Hadlee (who retired that July), he didn't think NZ was a worthy opponent (which they proved in field as well) and he asked PCB to convert the WIN series (a month later) to a 5 Test affair, which PCB declined (or might not be possible for them). Imran didn't disagree to play, rather he wanted to get into full fitness (he was 38+ now), so that he can bowl against WIN (which still he couldn't - just few wickets, but batted with 50+ average).

Amir needed and still needs every bit of mercy from PAK cricket - for that what PCB did for him. He himself did enough to drive taxi for a living without the help of PCB. Also, I am not sure why PAK needs him, even in Southampton - they already have the Cyborg version of Starc and the incarnation of Fred Truman, the second greatest fast bowler ever + a seemer averaging <16 in UK .... and a leggi so far taking 45% wickets for PAK in this series - where to fit in Amir?
 
The O/P keeps on watching re runs of Amir's tests matches in England in 2010 when he looked so special. Then he lost 5 years due to his own corruption and was never the same test bowler. Am I right he only took one fiver in one innings in test cricket since his ban?

The fact is Sohail Khan is more deserving of a test sport than Amir.
 
Imran was significantly better when he played though, more than compensating for this Kapil is just a slightly better Chris Cairns

Junaid has revealed Imran Khan dropped out of a test series because it was too hot. How can you respect that bro.

Anyway, Chris Cairns never won a world cup for his country.
 
Yeah, let's glorify that 30-averaging 1-series wonder further!
 
Yeah, let's glorify that 30-averaging 1-series wonder further!
I thought Dhoni played more than 1 series , ? Sill 38 isn’t that bad a test batting average, Dhoni is in good company as Hafeez playing in the same era also has a near identical test batting average.
 
So
Amir=Imran Khan the GOAT, in fact better in UK
Shaheen=superior version of Starc
Naseem=Trueman 2.0
Babar=better than Steve Smith
Masood=Cook
Rizwan=better than Kock, Dhoni, Watling

Am I missing some other gem comparisons [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]? Is Shadab rated higher than Shakib and Faheem above Kapil yet? Funnily enough no such love for Yasir who has been the biggest matchwinner for his side for most part of the 2010s.

If these comparisons hold true this Pakistani team is probably comparable to the great Aussie side of 15 years back. No way can they lose tests or drop a single match in ICC tournaments.

Delusions and fanatical overrating have never helped anyone on this planet. Funny to see that most Pakistani fans here are grounded, realistic and sensible but someone from UK/Aus deems it fit to make ridiculous comparisons. Surely can't be serious, jinxing or trolling? I find both equally tasteless.

1. Alistair Cook
2. Quinton de Kock
3. Shakib ul Hasan
4. Steve Smith
5. MS Dhoni
6. Kapil Dev
7. Imran Khan (c)
8. BJ Watling (wk)
9. Shane Warne
10. Fred Trueman
11. Mitchell Starc

Not bad...
 
No, you compared player to player - I can paste the line where you said Amir is better than Imran Khan ever was in such conditions..... I belive that was not for Imran Khan Sr., rather the Prime Minister one.

Coming to the response - you are not correct either. In fact, WY has explained perfectly why Amir is not considered: he is retired, and not ready for red ball game. More importantly, we haven't prepared him for the Red ball series. I do tend to believe that guy Waquar Younis knows few tricks more than us regarding the readiness and match fitness of a fast bowler for a five day game after retiring a year back and hardly (if any) playing any FC games in between.

Coming to the five "refusals", I am not sure what is your source of information, but I did follow Imran's career quite passionately, and I see lots of incorrect information there. Here is my version of the "refusals"

1981-82: Imran actually was among very few players who remained neutral in that saga - there were probably 9 known seniors (I can name most, but not required) including his cousin was part of the revolt but he kept himself silent. He was not even considered for Captaincy at that point. Air Marshall Noor Khan was PCB Chairman then and he wasn't submissive to the players demand, but he asked Javed to step down and appointed Khan as Captain, sighting that it won't be any issue for Javed in near future. I am not sure what was the reason Khan didn't play first two Tests (SRL), but it was never as a protest to Captain. Four years later Imran made a comeback in 1985 under Javed and he was offered Captaincy immediately, which he declined and allowed Javed to complete his pre-agreed tenure. This is one reason despite having on & off the field differences, Javed never had any issues with Captain Imran on cricket field.

1984-85: That's blunt lie and I believe you have read "All-round View". After almost two years of injury lay-off, Imran started to bowl sometimes in Nov-December 1984 and he was no way in shape for fast bowling. When PAK team was being selected (for NZ), he himself asked them not to consider him. He was looking for some FC games to regain his fitness and NSW came with the opportunity (Via IC I believe, Aussies didn't hire foreigners much for their domestics) - he won the Shield with NSW batting at 5 and bowled lots of overs - I think he played 6 games and was player of the season (was MoM in the Final as well). By the time PAK returned from NZ for the B&H Mini WSC, Imran made himself available and played under Javed. He played first game for NSW sometimes in late Nov, PAK traveled to NZ a month later, by the time he had just 2-3 FC games in 23 months .......

1987-88: No, he was permanently retired, only to come back on the request of President of PAK. And, he announced that retirement over a year back from the date - in fact, after the Final of Perth Challenge Cup Jan, 1987; he waved at the fans as well (probably sighting his last trip to Australia)

1988-89: This one I am not sure. But, in past, Australia always toured Asia during off seasons because of their domestic season cutting path - either between SEP-OCT or MAR-APR-MAY. He has played two other series against AUS at home in even hotter conditions, therefore I don't think weather was any issue there - fitness may be (by that time he was 36) but definitely not weather.

1990-91: This one I am sure - he wrote it in his book. Without Hadlee (who retired that July), he didn't think NZ was a worthy opponent (which they proved in field as well) and he asked PCB to convert the WIN series (a month later) to a 5 Test affair, which PCB declined (or might not be possible for them). Imran didn't disagree to play, rather he wanted to get into full fitness (he was 38+ now), so that he can bowl against WIN (which still he couldn't - just few wickets, but batted with 50+ average).

Amir needed and still needs every bit of mercy from PAK cricket - for that what PCB did for him. He himself did enough to drive taxi for a living without the help of PCB. Also, I am not sure why PAK needs him, even in Southampton - they already have the Cyborg version of Starc and the incarnation of Fred Truman, the second greatest fast bowler ever + a seemer averaging <16 in UK .... and a leggi so far taking 45% wickets for PAK in this series - where to fit in Amir?

Not checked/verified the contents here but looks like a top post here. The thing is, given the celebrity surrounding IK's cricketing career, if he had really tanked effort before or during games, it would have been picked up properly and media would have had a field day.
 
The rancour and hostility towards Mohammad Amir for retiring from Test cricket has really taken me aback.

Someone else can do the same for Shahid Afridi, but I thought that I should compile a list of when Imran Khan refused to play for Pakistan.

1981-82 - went on strike against Javed Miandad, missed first two Tests v Sri Lanka, then returned when Miandad agreed to step down. Imran became the new captain.

1984-85 - unavailable to play in the series in New Zealand because he was too busy playing for New South Wales.

1987-88 - unavailable to play at home against England as he had temporarily retired.

1988-89 - unavailable to play at home against Australia as it was too hot.

1990-91 - unavailable to play at home against New Zealand as it was too hot.

Consider too that when Shahid Afridi was captain of Pakistan in England in 2010, he ran away half-way through the Tests which is how Salman Butt become the skipper.

I don't how you want this to put in. IK did not just refused to play against NZ and Australia in September due to heat, he had repeatedly said September was summer in Pakistan and not a weather for cricket a it could lead to heat stroke and other health issues and also injuries to the players. He was worried about all the players and not only for him self. And, with no shades in stadium, no one would come to watch cricket in a such a blazing sun and heat.
 
No, you compared player to player - I can paste the line where you said Amir is better than Imran Khan ever was in such conditions..... I belive that was not for Imran Khan Sr., rather the Prime Minister one.

Coming to the response - you are not correct either. In fact, WY has explained perfectly why Amir is not considered: he is retired, and not ready for red ball game. More importantly, we haven't prepared him for the Red ball series. I do tend to believe that guy Waquar Younis knows few tricks more than us regarding the readiness and match fitness of a fast bowler for a five day game after retiring a year back and hardly (if any) playing any FC games in between.

Coming to the five "refusals", I am not sure what is your source of information, but I did follow Imran's career quite passionately, and I see lots of incorrect information there. Here is my version of the "refusals"

1981-82: Imran actually was among very few players who remained neutral in that saga - there were probably 9 known seniors (I can name most, but not required) including his cousin was part of the revolt but he kept himself silent. He was not even considered for Captaincy at that point. Air Marshall Noor Khan was PCB Chairman then and he wasn't submissive to the players demand, but he asked Javed to step down and appointed Khan as Captain, sighting that it won't be any issue for Javed in near future. I am not sure what was the reason Khan didn't play first two Tests (SRL), but it was never as a protest to Captain. Four years later Imran made a comeback in 1985 under Javed and he was offered Captaincy immediately, which he declined and allowed Javed to complete his pre-agreed tenure. This is one reason despite having on & off the field differences, Javed never had any issues with Captain Imran on cricket field.

1984-85: That's blunt lie and I believe you have read "All-round View". After almost two years of injury lay-off, Imran started to bowl sometimes in Nov-December 1984 and he was no way in shape for fast bowling. When PAK team was being selected (for NZ), he himself asked them not to consider him. He was looking for some FC games to regain his fitness and NSW came with the opportunity (Via IC I believe, Aussies didn't hire foreigners much for their domestics) - he won the Shield with NSW batting at 5 and bowled lots of overs - I think he played 6 games and was player of the season (was MoM in the Final as well). By the time PAK returned from NZ for the B&H Mini WSC, Imran made himself available and played under Javed. He played first game for NSW sometimes in late Nov, PAK traveled to NZ a month later, by the time he had just 2-3 FC games in 23 months .......

1987-88: No, he was permanently retired, only to come back on the request of President of PAK. And, he announced that retirement over a year back from the date - in fact, after the Final of Perth Challenge Cup Jan, 1987; he waved at the fans as well (probably sighting his last trip to Australia)

1988-89: This one I am not sure. But, in past, Australia always toured Asia during off seasons because of their domestic season cutting path - either between SEP-OCT or MAR-APR-MAY. He has played two other series against AUS at home in even hotter conditions, therefore I don't think weather was any issue there - fitness may be (by that time he was 36) but definitely not weather.

1990-91: This one I am sure - he wrote it in his book. Without Hadlee (who retired that July), he didn't think NZ was a worthy opponent (which they proved in field as well) and he asked PCB to convert the WIN series (a month later) to a 5 Test affair, which PCB declined (or might not be possible for them). Imran didn't disagree to play, rather he wanted to get into full fitness (he was 38+ now), so that he can bowl against WIN (which still he couldn't - just few wickets, but batted with 50+ average).

Amir needed and still needs every bit of mercy from PAK cricket - for that what PCB did for him. He himself did enough to drive taxi for a living without the help of PCB. Also, I am not sure why PAK needs him, even in Southampton - they already have the Cyborg version of Starc and the incarnation of Fred Truman, the second greatest fast bowler ever + a seemer averaging <16 in UK .... and a leggi so far taking 45% wickets for PAK in this series - where to fit in Amir?

With respect, my point is not who was the better cricketer.

This thread is about double standards towards different players for similar behaviour.

But if you really want to challenge my comments about Amir.

Different players perform differently in different countries and different conditions.

IN ENGLAND
Imran Khan: 47 wickets in 12 Tests at 24.63
Mohammad Amir: 49 wickets in 12 Tests at 25.55

Of course Imran Khan is a much greater cricketer than Mohammad Amir.

But the issue is that right now, for the Third Test, Pakistan are ignoring a bowler who is there with the squad and is as good in English conditions as the great Imran Khan.

And to me that is an act of wilful self-harm.
 
With respect, my point is not who was the better cricketer.

This thread is about double standards towards different players for similar behaviour.

But if you really want to challenge my comments about Amir.

Different players perform differently in different countries and different conditions.

IN ENGLAND
Imran Khan: 47 wickets in 12 Tests at 24.63
Mohammad Amir: 49 wickets in 12 Tests at 25.55

Of course Imran Khan is a much greater cricketer than Mohammad Amir.

But the issue is that right now, for the Third Test, Pakistan are ignoring a bowler who is there with the squad and is as good in English conditions as the great Imran Khan.

And to me that is an act of wilful self-harm.

Your premises is wrong, that I have explained here - NO WAY, the two behaviors are similar. Not going to epics again the PRIME difference is that Imran never was retired - either he was injured or opted out of a series with prior agreement. After 1987, he came back to lead the side with a note that he'll be available selectively. Amir is officially retired - first he has to announce that he is available; then he has to get himself ready for Test cricket, compete with other players and finally can be considered to be selected. What Anir has done in past has very little significance in this - THIS IS where your double standard is exposed, you are judging Amir based on his last (2018) performance and predicting success after 1 year of retirement..... in that scale Azhar Ali shouldn't get any stick either, based on his past prior to 2018, he should walk into this PAK side.

Comparison of Imran & Amir's career stats will be misleading - Amir played three series in UK at his prime and still in one of them averaged 42. Imran played four series in UK, in 1971 (0/55 - no average), 1975 (5 wickets @ 50+ average) - these two are diluting his stats just like prior ban Amir's stats are diluting his overall career average of 30. In 1980s, Imran played 8 Tests in UK - 42 wickets at ~20 with 5 5fors & 1 10for. Amir of 2010 was different beast - based on that if we're to judge him then the comparison should be with Imran of 1980s - 8 Tests, 500+ runs @ close to 60 and 42 wickets at 20.

Amir is retired - there is no point in clutching straw and he is not any good either, specially after one year of retirement with no FC game in between. PAK should move on or Amir has to show the commitment & interest.
 
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Amir is overrated, ok before his pathetic actions he had A few good series here and there, to be honest pcb wasted their time and money to get him back in to the thick of things once his ban was lifted, asif would have been a better option as he relied less on pace and more on his cunning skill set.
 
Don't understand all this fuss over Amir at all. He never was or will be a Pak legend at all. Protest is a right we all have, no probs if IK decided to miss a series for whatever reason. We are talking about a two time divorcee here:maqsood
 
Never seen so much hype for a test bowler who has just taken over 100 wickets, at an average of over 30, averaging 30 home and away and averages almost 32 post his comeback. Yes he would have been very useful in england but definitely not the future or long term investment pakistan needs in tests
 
Well I feel like you answered the question yourself. You said in your post that Imran made himself unavailable, Amir on the other hand retired. Pretty sure when someone retires they're trying to signal they don't want to play again.
 
Imran Khan towards the end of his career was only playing to give his Cancer Hospital publicity, he achieved all his goals in cricket, he in fact voluntarily sat out of series where he felt the opposition was weak or were insulting him by sending him a weak squad. Had IK played in these stats boosting games, he might have played 100 test matches and scored 4000 runs and taken 400 test wickets.
 
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