'Love a Muslim Day' list in response to hate letter

[Varun]

The man who created a 'Love a Muslim Day' list in response to letters promoting hateful acts hopes his idea will "bring people together".

It was sparked by reports that 'Punish a Muslim Day' letters had been sent out in several cities, calling on people to verbally and physically attack Muslims.

Four MPs from South Asian backgrounds have also received packages containing anti-Muslim letters in recent days.

The response, listing acts of kindness, has been widely shared on social media.

More on this story and others in West Yorkshire

Shahab Adris, from Leeds, said he was disgusted at the content of the widely-reported letter and had a "brainwave" on Saturday.

"I thought, let's turn this letter on its head, keep the points system and turn it into something lovely," he said.

"Some of the responses I've seen from the Muslim community have been really positive, but the most remarkable thing has been getting responses from people who are not Muslim, saying they will do something with a Muslim colleague."

Mr Adris works for Muslim Engagement & Development, a national charity promoting political and social engagement and countering Islamophobia.

His letter rewards an increasing number of points for actions including 'smile at a Muslim', 'buy a Muslim coffee with cake' and 'do a fundraiser for the needy'.

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Mr Adris told BBC Radio Leeds: "As a Muslim, we're always wanting to bring people together and love everyone regardless of their background - it could be love a Jew day, love a Christian day, love an atheist day, love a human day."

The move was backed by Labour MP for Colne Valley Thelma Walker, with others calling it a "perfect response to hate and bigotry".

An urgent question was raised in the House of Commons on Monday by Labour MP Yasmin Qureshi, giving details of the letters that were said to have been received in Bradford, Leicester, London, Cardiff and Sheffield.

Counter Terrorism Policing North East previously said it had received reports of "potentially malicious communications sent to individuals across the UK" and told anyone who had received one to contact their local police force.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-43401384

 

[BlackShadow]

If I were a Muslim, I would feel so cringed at this.

 

[Varun]

If I were a Muslim, I would feel so cringed at this.

If I were a Muslim, I'd stop the public broadcast of 'Muslim this', 'Muslim that'. It only leads to trouble and negative connotations.

Just keep it at home even if you're so religious.

 

[TM Riddle]

They have made you curries and Kebabs

 

[Varun]

They have made you curries and Kebabs

There's more - you get points for doing stuff like this:

 

[BlackShadow]

There's more - you get points for doing stuff like this:

The point allocation seems so arbitrary. Buying a Hajj package for a Muslim family is only x5 fasting in Ramadan. Should have been at least 25,000 points.

 

[ManFan]

If I were a Muslim, I'd stop the public broadcast of 'Muslim this', 'Muslim that'. It only leads to trouble and negative connotations.

Just keep it at home even if you're so religious.

So the young lady who got acid thrown on her face just because she was a Muslim should stay at home and mind her business?
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1445143/muslim-woman-severely-injured-london-acid-attack-21st-birthday/

 

[barah_admi]

If I were a Muslim, I'd stop the public broadcast of 'Muslim this', 'Muslim that'. It only leads to trouble and negative connotations.

Just keep it at home even if you're so religious.

Explain what you mean. Muslim this and Muslim that? Keep it at home? What are you talking about and how does it relate to racist groups creating documents inciting violence against a religious minority?

As an Indian I doubt you understand this but in Britain it is illegal.

 

[Abdullah719]

This was the original.

 

[Varun]

So the young lady who got acid thrown on her face just because she was a Muslim should stay at home and mind her business?
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1445143/muslim-woman-severely-injured-london-acid-attack-21st-birthday/

What's the point getting random, out-of-context links without spelling out your point if you indeed have something to say?

Explain what you mean. Muslim this and Muslim that? Keep it at home? What are you talking about and how does it relate to racist groups creating documents inciting violence against a religious minority?

I apologize if the post in question sounded rather crude, but the basis is clear: since British Muslims (among other Muslims) face a lot of scrutiny by the wider society in the UK, they should make attempts to - for their own good - relatively keep their Muslim identities anonymous in the public setting. I don't think this goes against their religion or any religion and constantly being in the news cannot be a good thing if the current public perception is negative in the first place.

 

[ManFan]

What's the point getting random, out-of-context links without spelling out your point if you indeed have something to say?



I apologize if the post in question sounded rather crude, but the basis is clear: since British Muslims (among other Muslims) face a lot of scrutiny by the wider society in the UK, they should make attempts to - for their own good - relatively keep their Muslim identities anonymous in the public setting. I don't think this goes against their religion or any religion and constantly being in the news cannot be a good thing if the current public perception is negative in the first place.

The point of including that link was to show that Muslims, especially in the UK, should not have to hide their identity simply because of their beliefs. The letter, is an indication of the strong hate present against Muslims, the least they can do is educate about their beliefs, not stay silent when they are being hunted down.

 

[Varun]

I apologize if the post in question sounded rather crude, but the basis is clear: since British Muslims (among other Muslims) face a lot of scrutiny by the wider society in the UK, they should make attempts to - for their own good - relatively keep their Muslim identities anonymous in the public setting. I don't think this goes against their religion or any religion and constantly being in the news cannot be a good thing if the current public perception is negative in the first place.

....and if they do so by keeping said identity at 'home', they needn't be targets of either the 'Punish a Muslim' or 'Love a Muslim' letter. Is this not a fair comment?

 

[ManFan]

Here is what happens when people do not speak up. Read the poem...
"First they came..." by Martin Niemoller.

 

[ManFan]

....and if they do so by keeping said identity at 'home', they needn't be targets of either the 'Punish a Muslim' or 'Love a Muslim' letter. Is this not a fair comment?

So Mandela, Malcolm X, MLK Jr., should have stayed home when the African American community was being fire hosed, bombed, harassed, shot, ostracized?

 

[Varun]

The point of including that link was to show that Muslims, especially in the UK, should not have to hide their identity simply because of their beliefs. The letter, is an indication of the strong hate present against Muslims, the least they can do is educate about their beliefs, not stay silent when they are being hunted down.

Keeping it 'relatively anonymous' is not akin to hiding it. It'll be on the same level as Christianity, Sikhism, Hinduism and any other religion widely practiced in the UK. And in this context, it seems successful: there are no 'Punish a Catholic' or 'Love a Sikh' messages going around are there?

 

[ManFan]

Keeping it 'relatively anonymous' is not akin to hiding it. It'll be on the same level as Christianity, Sikhism, Hinduism and any other religion widely practiced in the UK. And in this context, it seems successful: there are no 'Punish a Catholic' or 'Love a Sikh' messages going around are there?

How was that women indicating she was a Muslim? She was a model! Throwing acid on an innocent person's face should never be justified on the victim.

 

[Varun]

So Mandela, Malcolm X, MLK Jr., should have stayed home when the African American community was being fire hosed, bombed, harassed, shot, ostracized?

Muslims are not hankering for any revolution, so the equivalent of Martin Luther King can wait. I'm sure most of them just want to lead normal lives in the UK so what I said will be a step to ensure the same.

 

[ManFan]

Muslims are not hankering for any revolution, so the equivalent of Martin Luther King can wait. I'm sure most of them just want to lead normal lives in the UK so what I said will be a step to ensure the same.

African Americans did not want a revolution either. They wanted to desegregate. They did not take up arms but rather demonstrate and protest. They were a minority who were disrespected simply because of their skin color.

 

[Varun]

How was that women indicating she was a Muslim? She was a model! Throwing acid on an innocent person's face should never be justified on the victim.

I didn't open the link the first time you posted it seeing that it was out of the scope of this thread, and now that I have, I think it is a highly condemn-worthy attack, there is nothing in the article to suggest that it was done only because she was a Muslim. It is a heinous crime that could have happened to other models who had a gripe with the attacker, but the religion is brought up only because she was a Muslim - in a way it enforces what I suggested earlier.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

This was the original.

These people are mentally sick.

 

[ManFan]

I didn't open the link the first time you posted it seeing that it was out of the scope of this thread, and now that I have, I think it is a highly condemn-worthy attack, there is nothing in the article to suggest that it was done only because she was a Muslim. It is a heinous crime that could have happened to other models who had a gripe with the attacker, but the religion is brought up only because she was a Muslim - in a way it enforces what I suggested earlier.

She was with her cousin, a brown man and she looks desi also. She was not wearing a hijab but her facial features could identify her as a Muslim. Than again, some of these nuts confuse a Sikh with a Muslim just because of the beard. You never know.

 

[Varun]

She was with her cousin, a brown man and she looks desi also. She was not wearing a hijab but her facial features could identify her as a Muslim. Than again, some of these nuts confuse a Sikh with a Muslim just because of the beard. You never know.

Let's just agree that a car doesn't randomly pull by with the driver hurling acid at you. There are some finer details that the public may not know between the model and the attacker, and realistically that in turn has nothing to do with religion.

 

[ManFan]

Let's just agree that a car doesn't randomly pull by with the driver hurling acid at you. There are some finer details that the public may not know between the model and the attacker, and realistically that in turn has nothing to do with religion.

Maybe not religion but other issues relating to race, background, etc. It's not like this is the only instance of a Muslim in the U.K. being attacked.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

If I were a Muslim, I would feel so cringed at this.

It's extremely cringeworthy. Far better would be to have headlines on the front pages of the newspapers expressing shock at the the Punish a Muslim letters which went out. Four Muslim MPs actually received suspicious packages which had to be treated as hazardous after all. It wasn't a small event, yet most newspapers quietly hid it in small columns of the inside pages. That tells you more than anything else about where the real danger lies.

 

[ahmedzee]

Funny how some of the non-Muslim posters don't realize that this is in response to "Punish a Muslim" day where killing a Muslim had the highest point allocation.

 

[troodon]

The day we stop identifying ourselves as Muslim/Christian/Jew/Hindu will be the best day in Human history.

Love a Muslim, Hate a Muslim... What a load of rubbish. When will we learn that we are all humans first.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Funny how some of the non-Muslim posters don't realize that this is in response to "Punish a Muslim" day where killing a Muslim had the highest point allocation.

Response is not good. It seeks patronization and entitlement. Better response would have been to love all day, asking fellow muslims to help anyone, muslim or non muslim. Would have given a message that if you throw hate at us, we will only love everyone, and there is no we or them in love. But whoever thought of this response has played right into the hands of those who say the muslim immigrants want to take and not give.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The day we stop identifying ourselves as Muslim/Christian/Jew/Hindu will be the best day in Human history.

Love a Muslim, Hate a Muslim... What a load of rubbish. When will we learn that we are all humans first.

When we realise we can learn we are all human first without needing to stop identifying as Muslim/Christian/Jew/Hindu.

 

[barah_admi]

What's the point getting random, out-of-context links without spelling out your point if you indeed have something to say?



I apologize if the post in question sounded rather crude, but the basis is clear: since British Muslims (among other Muslims) face a lot of scrutiny by the wider society in the UK, they should make attempts to - for their own good - relatively keep their Muslim identities anonymous in the public setting. I don't think this goes against their religion or any religion and constantly being in the news cannot be a good thing if the current public perception is negative in the first place.

This is ridiculous, what do you mean "keep their identities secret"...you want Muslims to walk out with white face paint? Or for men to shave their beards? Or for women not to wear the head scarf?

 

[Poutine]

There's more - you get points for doing stuff like this:

Why are you posting this out of context? This list is a response to another list, which rewarded people for stuff like killing Muslims and throwing acid on them.

But I guess posting the original list, would go against your agenda.

 

[Poutine]

If I were a Muslim, I would feel so cringed at this.

It's weird but it makes more sense if you actually know the context.

 

[KingKhanWC]

If I were a Muslim, I'd stop the public broadcast of 'Muslim this', 'Muslim that'. It only leads to trouble and negative connotations.

Just keep it at home even if you're so religious.

Muslims wont shy away from publicising who they are or what they believe in. No matter the times of today where propoganda has made their religion or them as 'enemies' it wont make Muslims hide themselves.

In the UK Muslims have influence and take action(as best they can), supported by many Non-Muslims to tackle Islamaphobia, which this is .

 

[PakLFC]

Muslim's are generally safe in the west otherwise so many wouldn't be living there. One silly letter does not reflect an entire society. Muslim's are just people, they should respect the law of the country they live in.

 

[JaDed]

Muslims wont shy away from publicising who they are or what they believe in. No matter the times of today where propoganda has made their religion or them as 'enemies' it wont make Muslims hide themselves.

In the UK Muslims have influence and take action(as best they can), supported by many Non-Muslims to tackle Islamaphobia, which this is .

True it's easier to announce one is a Muslim than follow the QURAN.
Publicizing > Understanding

 

[KingKhanWC]

True it's easier to announce one is a Muslim than follow the QURAN.
Publicizing > Understanding

If you have a sensible point, please make it instead of writing nonsense. Care to explain?

 

[James]

Great response! I like it.

 

[WC-Passion]

What is this rubbish, no one is going to take this seriously. Making curry and kebabs? Seriously all you can think of is stereotyping and using food as a point. Did they ask a 10 year old to write this or something?

That "Punish a Muslim" thing if messed up beyond belief. No idea that people were this level of mentally sick, it's astonishing.

 

[BlackShadow]

It's weird but it makes more sense if you actually know the context.

Yes, now that I know I know the context, this seems like a good response.

 

[Varun]

This is ridiculous, what do you mean "keep their identities secret"...you want Muslims to walk out with white face paint? Or for men to shave their beards? Or for women not to wear the head scarf?

If you're going to quote me using "quotation marks", please be accurate and don't go off on a train after pasting incorrect items within said quotation marks. Thanks in advance.

Why are you posting this out of context? This list is a response to another list, which rewarded people for stuff like killing Muslims and throwing acid on them.

But I guess posting the original list, would go against your agenda.

What agenda? Does the OP and the link not say that it is in response to a hate letter? What agenda would I not have by merely pasting the hate letter? What agenda do I have by only posting the so called love letter?

Muslims wont shy away from publicising who they are or what they believe in.

What rewards await you if you publicize your faith? Sure, practice it and abide by all its laws but broadcasting it is hardly a requirement by any measure. Few other faiths do it with the same gusto as (British) Muslims and they seem to get by fine in the UK.

 

[Robert]

Great response! I like it.

I like it too.

So much cynicism on this thread aimed at something which is meant to make society stronger. Sad to read.

I wrote a letter to the Muslim surgeon who saved my father’s life. He wrote back and said he actually shed a tear that I had taken the trouble to thank him.

 

[James]

I like it too.

So much cynicism on this thread aimed at something which is meant to make society stronger. Sad to read.

Anti-Muslim sentiment, thinly disguised.

 

[barah_admi]

If you're going to quote me using "quotation marks", please be accurate and don't go off on a train after pasting incorrect items within said quotation marks. Thanks in advance.



What agenda? Does the OP and the link not say that it is in response to a hate letter? What agenda would I not have by merely pasting the hate letter? What agenda do I have by only posting the so called love letter?



What rewards await you if you publicize your faith? Sure, practice it and abide by all its laws but broadcasting it is hardly a requirement by any measure. Few other faiths do it with the same gusto as (British) Muslims and they seem to get by fine in the UK.

This is exactly what you said "they should make attempts to - for their own good - relatively keep their Muslim identities anonymous in the public setting."

So you said they should be anonymous, now explain (3rd time I'm asking you) how they can be anonymous?

I'm not holding my breath on your ability to answer the question.

 

[barah_admi]

Anti-Muslim sentiment, thinly disguised.

Nothing thin about it mate.

 

[Salman]

The whole hate letter has been used mainly by some MP's as a vehicle to get some publicity for themselves, the hate letter should been ignored and never have made it to the mainstream media.

 

[big_gamer007]

The day we stop identifying ourselves as Muslim/Christian/Jew/Hindu will be the best day in Human history.

Love a Muslim, Hate a Muslim... What a load of rubbish. When will we learn that we are all humans first.

Unfortunately that day will never come..

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The whole hate letter has been used mainly by some MP's as a vehicle to get some publicity for themselves, the hate letter should been ignored and never have made it to the mainstream media.

I think that's an idiotic response. Sajid Javed is the latest to have received the letter, and he is as Uncle Tom as they come. Why should they hide it, don't they deserve the same right to safety as the rest of the politicians?

 

[s28]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The letter calling for attacks on Muslim is just the latest example of rising Islamaphobia and deplorable hate crimes in this country. In my UQ to the Minister I called on the Govt. to do more to tackle such incitement to violence and help prevent the growth of such extreme views <a href="https://t.co/dVr3ZVusol">pic.twitter.com/dVr3ZVusol</a></p>— Yasmin Qureshi (@YasminQureshiMP) <a href="https://twitter.com/YasminQureshiMP/status/973263516328169472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">12 March 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Saeed]

The whole hate letter has been used mainly by some MP's as a vehicle to get some publicity for themselves, the hate letter should been ignored and never have made it to the mainstream media.

When you get one feel free to do so. Others did the right thing by bringing attention to it.

 

[Asif khan]

Muslims just can't get a break, sad state of affairs. Heads we lose and tails the bigots win.

 

[KingKhanWC]

What rewards await you if you publicize your faith? Sure, practice it and abide by all its laws but broadcasting it is hardly a requirement by any measure. Few other faiths do it with the same gusto as (British) Muslims and they seem to get by fine in the UK.

The Christians use bells to call people to prayer/church. Muslims use human voice (adhaan) which calls people to prayer. These words are used to show Muslims are calling ALL to pray to God. This broadcasting is part of the faith.

Muslims dont need to have 'I am a Muslim' stamped to their forehead but we are required to pass the message of Islam to people.

 

[R3verse Swing]

No wonder Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.

AWARENESS.

 

[DeadBall]

No wonder Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.

AWARENESS.

Doesn't need the negative awareness but yeah, it's mostly due to the fertility rate.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Doesn't need the negative awareness but yeah, it's mostly due to the fertility rate.

It is also the most practicsed faith on the planet, nothing to do with fertility. Also has one of the biggest numbers of new converts every year.

 

[R3verse Swing]

It is also the most practicsed faith on the planet, nothing to do with fertility. Also has one of the biggest numbers of new converts every year.

Spot on.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Doesn't need the negative awareness but yeah, it's mostly due to the fertility rate.

You were born into a Muslim family but do not accept/follow Islam.

Fertility argument is neither here nor there.

 

[DeadBall]

It is also the most practicsed faith on the planet, nothing to do with fertility. Also has one of the biggest numbers of new converts every year.

Most practiced faith isn't something that can be measured, but even if it is, its more a sign of going back rather than progress. As for the biggest number of converts everyone always seems to mention, it is less than 0.0001% of the human population and there are more reverts than actual people converting. You can do your own research.

 

[DeadBall]

You were born into a Muslim family but do not accept/follow Islam.

Fertility argument is neither here nor there.

Yes because the Muslim fertility rate is the highest among all other religions. Also 99% of people born in a certain faith, follow it. Common sense.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Most practiced faith isn't something that can be measured, but even if it is, its more a sign of going back rather than progress. As for the biggest number of converts everyone always seems to mention, it is less than 0.0001% of the human population and there are more reverts than actual people converting. You can do your own research.

It can be easily measured, you just dont have the knowledge of religions to understand. Jews and Muslims are the two who practice their faith on a daily basis and pretty much all of the followers of these religions practice in the same way as each other. Care to explain why this is going backwards?

 

[R3verse Swing]

Yes because the Muslim fertility rate is the highest among all other religions. Also 99% of people born in a certain faith, follow it. Common sense.

So you sit in the 1%. Who do not.

Balanced by the 1% who convert.

 

[DeadBall]

So you sit in the 1%. Who do not.

Balanced by the 1% who convert.

Yes I do, but the number who convert is less than 0.0001%. Nice try though.

 

[DeadBall]

It can be easily measured, you just dont have the knowledge of religions to understand. Jews and Muslims are the two who practice their faith on a daily basis and pretty much all of the followers of these religions practice in the same way as each other. Care to explain why this is going backwards?

Ok.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Yes I do, but it's the number is less than 0.0001% who convert. Nice try though.

Nice try is plucking a figure of 99% out of then air. Provide evidence of your claim that 99% continue to follow their faith - common sense doesn't cut it.

Otherwise you have no reason to complain.

 

[DeadBall]

Nice try is plucking a figure of 99% out of then air. Provide evidence of your claim that 99% continue to follow their faith - common sense doesn't cut it.

Otherwise you have no reason to complain.

My bad, I think it's even less than that of late.

 

[R3verse Swing]

My bad, I think it's even less than that of late.

What's the figure, and with evidence please.

 

[R3verse Swing]

It can be easily measured, you just dont have the knowledge of religions to understand. Jews and Muslims are the two who practice their faith on a daily basis and pretty much all of the followers of these religions practice in the same way as each other. Care to explain why this is going backwards?

It's certainly not going backwards, it has been moving forwards for over 3500 years, and growing stronger.

As the saying goes; a lie runs a sprint, but the truth runs a marathon.

 

[R3verse Swing]

In the UK, as of 2011, 3.5% of Muslims are converts. Far cry from 0.0001%

Islam is the second largest religion in the United Kingdom, with results from the United Kingdom Census 2011 giving the UK Muslim population in 2011 as 2,786,635, 4.4% of the total population.[2] The vast majority of Muslims in the United Kingdom live in England: 2,660,116 (5.02% of the population). 76,737 Muslims live in Scotland (1.45%), 45,950 in Wales (1.50%), and 3,832 in Northern Ireland (0.21%). London has the greatest population of Muslims in the country.[3][4][5]

In 2011 it was reported that the United Kingdom could have as many as 100,000 converts to Islam,[6] of which 66% were women. Islam is the fastest growing religious confession in the UK and its adherents have the lowest average age out of all the major religious groups.[7] Between 2001 and 2009 the Muslim population increased almost 10 times faster than the non-Muslim population.[8] The majority of Muslims in United Kingdom belong to the Sunni denomination,[9] while smaller numbers are Shia and Ahmadi. In terms of national heritage, the largest groups of British Muslims are Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.[10][11] Smaller groups are Indians, Arabs, Kurds, Turks and Africans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_Kingdom

 

[DeadBall]

What's the figure, and with evidence please.

Yeah like all the evidence you have provided to back up your pseudo claims. If you really are that genuinely interested then Google is your friend.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Islam in the USA

Islam is the third largest religion in the United States after Christianity and Judaism.[1] According to a 2010 study, it is followed by 0.9% of the population, compared with 70.6% who follow Christianity, 22.8% unaffiliated, 1.9% Judaism, 0.7% Buddhism, and 0.7% Hinduism.[1][2] According to a newer estimate done in 2016, there were 3.3 million Muslims living in the United States, about 1% of the total U.S. population.[3]

American Muslims come from various backgrounds and, according to a 2009 Gallup poll, are one of the most racially diverse religious groups in the United States.[4] Native-born American Muslims are mainly African Americans who make up about a quarter of the total Muslim population. Many of these have converted to Islam during the last seventy years. Conversion to Islam in large urban areas[5] has also contributed to its growth over the years as well as its influence on black culture and hip-hop music.

Many is no where near to 0.0001%.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States

 

[DeadBall]

Islam in the USA



Many is no where near to 0.0001%.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States

Didn't know the whole world consisted of just the US. Thanks for the enlightenment.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Yeah like all the evidence you have provided to back up your pseudo claims. If you really are that genuinely interested then Google is your friend.

So you do not have the evidence. Thought as much.

I've cited evidence which already torpedoes your claim.

Feel free to use Google to counter.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Didn't know the whole world consisted of just the US. Thanks for the enlightenment.

Even if you take the conversion rate in UK and USA an apply across ALL countries in the world, it doesn't come close to your .0001% claim.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Worldwide Islam

In a 2015 article, the Pew Research Center said that the "bulging youth populations are among the reasons that Muslims are projected to grow faster than the world's overall population"[26] Only 0.3% (3,220,000 people) of the expected Muslim population growth (1,161,780,000) in the period of 2010–2050 would be due to conversions; 99.7% would be due to a high birth rate among Muslims.[8][55][56] According to 2016 study by Pew Research Center found that only 0.3% (500,000 people) of the Muslim population growth in the period of 2010–2015 was be due to conversions, While (152,000,000) of the Muslim population growth was due natural increas (births minus deaths).[57] According to The New York Times, an estimated 25% of American Muslims are converts.[58] In Britain, around 6,000 people convert to Islam per year and according to a June 2000 article in the British Muslims Monthly Survey the bulk of new Muslim converts in Britain were women.[59] According to The Huffington Post, "observers estimate that as many as 200 Americans convert to Islam annually."[60]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_population_growth#Conversion

So averaging out worldwide, 0.3% of Muslims are converts. That's 3000% more, than the fallacious claim of 0.0001%

Sweet dream folks!

 

[DeadBall]

Worldwide Islam



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_population_growth#Conversion

So averaging out worldwide, 0.3% of Muslims are converts. That's 3000% more, than the fallacious claim of 0.0001%

Sweet dream folks!

Did you even read that? Forgetting for a while that its from Wikipedia it just goes to confirm what I have already said

"In a 2015 article, the Pew Research Center said that the "bulging youth populations are among the reasons that Muslims are projected to grow faster than the world's overall population"[26] Only 0.3% (3,220,000 people) of the expected Muslim population growth (1,161,780,000) in the period of 2010–2050 would be due to conversions; 99.7% would be due to a high birth rate among Muslims.[8][55][56] According to 2016 study by Pew Research Center found that only 0.3% (500,000 people) of the Muslim population growth in the period of 2010–2015 was be due to conversions, While (152,000,000) of the Muslim population growth was due natural increas (births minus deaths).[57] According to The New York Times, an estimated 25% of American Muslims are converts.[58] In Britain, around 6,000 people convert to Islam per year and according to a June 2000 article in the British Muslims Monthly Survey the bulk of new Muslim converts in Britain were women.[59] According to The Huffington Post, "observers estimate that as many as 200 Americans convert to Islam annually."[60] Wow what number.

Isko kehte hai apne pair pai khuladi maarna.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Did you even read that? Forgetting for a while that its from Wikipedia it just goes to confirm what I have already said

"In a 2015 article, the Pew Research Center said that the "bulging youth populations are among the reasons that Muslims are projected to grow faster than the world's overall population"[26] Only 0.3% (3,220,000 people) of the expected Muslim population growth (1,161,780,000) in the period of 2010–2050 would be due to conversions; 99.7% would be due to a high birth rate among Muslims.[8][55][56] According to 2016 study by Pew Research Center found that only 0.3% (500,000 people) of the Muslim population growth in the period of 2010–2015 was be due to conversions, While (152,000,000) of the Muslim population growth was due natural increas (births minus deaths).[57] According to The New York Times, an estimated 25% of American Muslims are converts.[58] In Britain, around 6,000 people convert to Islam per year and according to a June 2000 article in the British Muslims Monthly Survey the bulk of new Muslim converts in Britain were women.[59] According to The Huffington Post, "observers estimate that as many as 200 Americans convert to Islam annually."[60] Wow what number.

Isko kehte hai apne pair pai khuladi maarna.

Nice try.

The point was conversion rates, your claim was

Yes I do, but the number who convert is less than 0.0001%.

Clearly this has proven to be beyond false.

The figure is 0.3% according to the evidence above.

Don't change the goal posts now.

 

[DeadBall]

Nice try.

The point was conversion rates, your claim was



Clearly this has proven to be beyond false.

The figure is 0.3% according to the evidence above.

Don't change the goal posts now.

That's "expected" conversions between 2010 and 2050. . Like I said actually "read" before blindly posting something, even if it's from Wikipedia.

 

[R3verse Swing]

That's "expected" conversions between 2010 and 2050. . Like I said actually read something before blindly posting something, even if it's from Wikipedia.

So first you knock the evidence, then you use the same evidence to back your claim, including the same source.

Reminds me of a quote :

Didn't know the whole world consisted of just the US. Thanks for the enlightenment.

0.3% based on current rate of conversions. Still no where near 0.0001%

We get it, you are not a fan of Islam, but no need to knock the evidence.

 

[DeadBall]

So first you knock the evidence, then you use the same evidence to back your claim, including the same source.

Reminds me of a quote :



0.3% based on current rate of conversions. Still no where near 0.0001%

We get it, you are not a fan of Islam, but no need to knock the evidence.

Evidence. Do you have actual factual citations to back that claim? I can post many links of "claims" of more people reverting from Islam than actual people converting, however I am done playing with you for today.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Evidence. Do you have actual factual citations to back that claim? I can post many links of "claims" of more people reverting from Islam than actual people converting, however I am done playing with you for today.

You got schooled. Everyone can see. All that bravado about Google, and you couldn't even use it for your defence.

Good night, and next time do not make baseless claims.

 

[DeadBall]

You got schooled. Everyone can see. All that bravado about Google, and you couldn't even use it for your defence.

Actually I didn't even post any my Google links but if you think "everyone" seeing me getting "schooled" makes you sleep better at night than I'm all for it. Need to you fresh and alert for tomorrow.

 

[PakLFC]

Muslim haters don't realise that their attitude is only making a record number of people read and study the Qur'an.