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"Making Azhar Ali captain is a part of next four years planning" : Iqbal Qasim

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PCB governing body member Iqbal Qasim Said:

Making Azhar Ali captain is a part of next Four years planning. He should be fully supported.

Youngsters have been given chances as to prepare for next world cup.

Wahab Riaz should bowl like he bowled in World cup to play a vital role in winning against Bangladesh.


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Azhar will lead Pakistan in the 2019 World Cup. The days of chopping captains on monthly basis are long gone.
 
Azhar will lead Pakistan in the 2019 World Cup. The days of chopping captains on monthly basis are long gone.

no it hasnt

Misbah survived because he was a shoulder above other batsman, the one series he wasnt he was an inch away from loosing the job ( aus 2014)

Azhar has a mountain to climb if he wants to stay
 
He will average 40 @75-80.

Good enough for us I would presume.
 
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will come back after the england series

He is already averaging 41 at a time where he was deemed unworthy for our top class batting lineup. With no Misbah and Yoni, he will not be chopped for below par strike rate.
 
I swear this guy was rejected for Chief Selector position? So how the hell does he know about what the plans are lol.

I personally think Azhar is a stop-gap until Sarfraz learns English. I also think they are planning to dump Hafeez because they didn't make him captain/VC.
 
Doubt it will last for long, not made for the ODI format

Wont be surprised if Afridi returns before the next CT
 
If he scores and they lose, he will blame the team for lack of support which will lead to bad blood and if he fails and the team wins, he will look a bit of a tool and will come under pressure for his place. The moral of the story- he must score and the team must win or he will be a short lived appointment.
 
its so upsetting that despite the most horrific failures possible at every job hes held at the pcb, iqbal qasim is still there.
 
I am surprised by the views of some here.

I doubt Azhar Ali would last long.

Let's see.

It'll take him 4 years to reach 100 at the rate he bats.

I'm with SIF here. Azhar seems a decent bloke and I wish him well but I cannot see this being successful, too many similar-ish players
 
It'll take him 4 years to reach 100 at the rate he bats.

I'm with SIF here. Azhar seems a decent bloke and I wish him well but I cannot see this being successful, too many similar-ish players

Pakistan went all in.

They should have tested the waters by having some other guy as captain who will be in the team for sure. I would have had Hafeez as a temporary captain. Sometimes you should never take decisions for the long term and just ride out the storm and test your combos.

Now Pakistan will be forced to give Azhar a long run no matter how he performs.

If it works, it will look like a genius move.

But if it doesn't, it will look stupid.

I judge a move not by its results but by the thinking process used to arrive at it.

And I think appointing Azhar Ali as captain is a wrong move when testing process was the need of the hour.

Its like slogging for a six when you need to take 6 singles cos you are batting with the tail. Just because you click and the ball goes out of the boundary doesn't mean your approach is right.
 
Pakistan went all in.

They should have tested the waters by having some other guy as captain who will be in the team for sure. I would have had Hafeez as a temporary captain. Sometimes you should never take decisions for the long term and just ride out the storm and test your combos.

Now Pakistan will be forced to give Azhar a long run no matter how he performs.

If it works, it will look like a genius move.

But if it doesn't, it will look stupid.

I judge a move not by its results but by the thinking process used to arrive at it.

And I think appointing Azhar Ali as captain is a wrong move when testing process was the need of the hour.

Its like slogging for a six when you need to take 6 singles cos you are batting with the tail. Just because you click and the ball goes out of the boundary doesn't mean your approach is right.
[MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] has posted a very sensible post. I would have had Fawad as captain, not only because of the way he bats, but also the way he guides his partners. I think pretty much every match he has guided his partner superbly and made them rotate strike and build partnerships with expertise. I mean anyone who can make Afrid bat sensibly has some pedigree :))

Another point to note, Pakistan were 8 wickets down and Fawad was on 30 odd and managed to double his score, remain not out and maintain a SR of 115. That is Miandad-eque (albeit against BCB XI, he has done it countless times in domestic and international).
 
The major issue I had with Azhar being appointed captain apart from the obvious lack of experience is that he is 30 years old already. So this flies into face of one of the main reasons being given that he is going to be a long term captain. You cannot plan for someone to play till they are 40 like Misbah. You plan them to be over the hill by the time they are 35 and going byy that token he only has one WC campaign in him. And who knows when the test captaincy spot becomes vacant.

Azhar is a gamble too because of him being raw and untested in captaincy. So why take a gamble where the potential returns if he is successful wont be for that long. If you are gonna gamble anyways then might aswell pick someone with atleast 2 potential WCs in him. Which is why Sarfaraz was a better bet in my opinion. Or even Fawad Alam. Both have a lot of captaincy experience atleast. nd Hafeez would have been a low risk option but the rewards would have been same

Another issue is that this pretty much takes out the possibility of Sarfaraz becoming a full time captain ever in the future. As VC, you are:

a) a future successor of the current captain, and/or
b)at the very least seen as part of the same group and hence the associated thinking in terms of strategy and ethos.

So if Sarfaraz ever is in a position to become the captain it will most likely be because Azhar is totally messing it up as a leader and was sacked rather than him coming to end of his cycle or an era ending. It most certainly wont be a voluntary stepping down from Azhar's part and even if it is it wont be for any other reason than being pressured to do so because of results. But Sarfaraz being tied to the Waqar, Azhar team would mean that the likelihood that will be low.

Usually when a captain is sacked the idea is to move on from his failures and what he stands for, meaning that his whole team (him, VC, head coach etc) goes with the possible exception of the head coach if he was not part of the whole time duration of captaincy. So in such a case it will be highly unlikely that PCB will turn to Sarfaraz as the next captain unless he has been his own man all this time and disassociates from the rest which doesn't seem to be his personality.

So in these decisions, PCB has firstly taken a gamble where the reward is low for the risk taken. And then in one swoop it has effectively curtailed the future captaincy ambitions of Sarfaraz in case of Azhar;s failure.

PCB should either have taken a huge gamble with a younger captain where the returns in case of success would have been greater or longer or should have gone the low risk, experienced choice like Hafeez or Malik imo. This Azhar appontment doesn't serve a whole lot
 
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If long term planning was the criteria - then Sarfraz or Fawad Alam should have been given the green light.

Azhar will not last in ODI's for more than a year.....
 
The major issue I had with Azhar being appointed captain apart from the obvious lack of experience is that he is 30 years old already. So this flies into face of one of the main reasons being given that he is going to be a long term captain. You cannot plan for someone to play till they are 40 like Misbah. You plan them to be over the hill by the time they are 35 and going byy that token he only has one WC campaign in him. And who knows when the test captaincy spot becomes vacant.

Azhar is a gamble too because of him being raw and untested in captaincy. So why take a gamble where the potential returns if he is successful wont be for that long. If you are gonna gamble anyways then might aswell pick someone with atleast 2 potential WCs in him. Which is why Sarfaraz was a better bet in my opinion. Or even Fawad Alam. Both have a lot of captaincy experience atleast. nd Hafeez would have been a low risk option but the rewards would have been same

Another issue is that this pretty much takes out the possibility of Sarfaraz becoming a full time captain ever in the future. As VC, you are:

a) a future successor of the current captain, and/or
b)at the very least seen as part of the same group and hence the associated thinking in terms of strategy and ethos.

So if Sarfaraz ever does is in a position to become the captain it will most likely be because Azhar is totally messing it up as a leader and was sacked rather than him coming to end of his cycle or an era ending. It most certainly wont be a voluntary stepping down from Azhar's part and even if it is it wont be for any other reason than being pressured to do so because of results. But him being tied to the Waqar, Azhar team would mean that the likelihood that will be low.

Usually when a captain is sacked the idea is to move on from his failures and what he stands for, meaning that his whole team (him, VC, head coach etc) goes with the possible exception of the head coach if he was not part of the whole time duration of captaincy. So in such a case it will be highly unlikely that PCB will turn to Sarfaraz as the next captain unless he has been his own man all this time and disassociates from the rest which doesn't seem to be his personality.

So in these decisions, PCB has firstly taken a gamble where the reward is low for the risk taken. And then in one swoop it has effectively curtailed the future captaincy ambitions of Sarfaraz in case of Azhar;s failure

If there is ever a post explaining why it is a farce in making Azhar Ali captain, this is it!
 
The major issue I had with Azhar being appointed captain apart from the obvious lack of experience is that he is 30 years old already. So this flies into face of one of the main reasons being given that he is going to be a long term captain. You cannot plan for someone to play till they are 40 like Misbah. You plan them to be over the hill by the time they are 35 and going byy that token he only has one WC campaign in him. And who knows when the test captaincy spot becomes vacant.

Azhar is a gamble too because of him being raw and untested in captaincy. So why take a gamble where the potential returns if he is successful wont be for that long. If you are gonna gamble anyways then might aswell pick someone with atleast 2 potential WCs in him. Which is why Sarfaraz was a better bet in my opinion. Or even Fawad Alam. Both have a lot of captaincy experience atleast. nd Hafeez would have been a low risk option but the rewards would have been same

Another issue is that this pretty much takes out the possibility of Sarfaraz becoming a full time captain ever in the future. As VC, you are:

a) a future successor of the current captain, and/or
b)at the very least seen as part of the same group and hence the associated thinking in terms of strategy and ethos.

So if Sarfaraz ever is in a position to become the captain it will most likely be because Azhar is totally messing it up as a leader and was sacked rather than him coming to end of his cycle or an era ending. It most certainly wont be a voluntary stepping down from Azhar's part and even if it is it wont be for any other reason than being pressured to do so because of results. But Sarfaraz being tied to the Waqar, Azhar team would mean that the likelihood that will be low.

Usually when a captain is sacked the idea is to move on from his failures and what he stands for, meaning that his whole team (him, VC, head coach etc) goes with the possible exception of the head coach if he was not part of the whole time duration of captaincy. So in such a case it will be highly unlikely that PCB will turn to Sarfaraz as the next captain unless he has been his own man all this time and disassociates from the rest which doesn't seem to be his personality.

So in these decisions, PCB has firstly taken a gamble where the reward is low for the risk taken. And then in one swoop it has effectively curtailed the future captaincy ambitions of Sarfaraz in case of Azhar;s failure.

PCB should either have taken a huge gamble with a younger captain where the returns in case of success would have been greater or longer or should have gone the low risk, experienced choice like Hafeez or Malik imo. This Azhar appontment doesn't serve a whole lot

Post of the week.
 
should be done we must build for the world cup , Hope azhar stays he has a calm head and professional demeanor
 
I hoping against hope that Azhar comes good, otherwise we will see a new captain and in case the new guy also fails he would be promptly changed.

We need stability and continuity to excel.
 
Won't even be seen in the ODI squad after Bangla series.!! Mediocre batsman with limited ability, zero strike rotation and awful against spin. Was a terrible decision to get him back to the squad
 
Won't even be seen in the ODI squad after Bangla series.!! Mediocre batsman with limited ability, zero strike rotation and awful against spin. Was a terrible decision to get him back to the squad

with YK and Misbah gone, and Shehzad sitting out thats not as big of an issue as it was a month ago.

lets see. Will be a good test of his mettle
 
The major issue I had with Azhar being appointed captain apart from the obvious lack of experience is that he is 30 years old already. So this flies into face of one of the main reasons being given that he is going to be a long term captain. You cannot plan for someone to play till they are 40 like Misbah. You plan them to be over the hill by the time they are 35 and going byy that token he only has one WC campaign in him. And who knows when the test captaincy spot becomes vacant.

Azhar is a gamble too because of him being raw and untested in captaincy. So why take a gamble where the potential returns if he is successful wont be for that long. If you are gonna gamble anyways then might aswell pick someone with atleast 2 potential WCs in him. Which is why Sarfaraz was a better bet in my opinion. Or even Fawad Alam. Both have a lot of captaincy experience atleast. nd Hafeez would have been a low risk option but the rewards would have been same

Another issue is that this pretty much takes out the possibility of Sarfaraz becoming a full time captain ever in the future. As VC, you are:

a) a future successor of the current captain, and/or
b)at the very least seen as part of the same group and hence the associated thinking in terms of strategy and ethos.

So if Sarfaraz ever is in a position to become the captain it will most likely be because Azhar is totally messing it up as a leader and was sacked rather than him coming to end of his cycle or an era ending. It most certainly wont be a voluntary stepping down from Azhar's part and even if it is it wont be for any other reason than being pressured to do so because of results. But Sarfaraz being tied to the Waqar, Azhar team would mean that the likelihood that will be low.

Usually when a captain is sacked the idea is to move on from his failures and what he stands for, meaning that his whole team (him, VC, head coach etc) goes with the possible exception of the head coach if he was not part of the whole time duration of captaincy. So in such a case it will be highly unlikely that PCB will turn to Sarfaraz as the next captain unless he has been his own man all this time and disassociates from the rest which doesn't seem to be his personality.

So in these decisions, PCB has firstly taken a gamble where the reward is low for the risk taken. And then in one swoop it has effectively curtailed the future captaincy ambitions of Sarfaraz in case of Azhar;s failure.

PCB should either have taken a huge gamble with a younger captain where the returns in case of success would have been greater or longer or should have gone the low risk, experienced choice like Hafeez or Malik imo. This Azhar appontment doesn't serve a whole lot


Very good post, some valid points. However, I would like to see it other way as well.

Regarding Azhar's age, actually 30 isn't that bad an age for a batsman-Captain to debut. Imran was appointed Captain at 29, despite being a fast bowler while S Waugh was 33, but yes Azhar is not........ However, I think, Azhar is a genuine 30 - I don't see age much of a problem; besides, he is extremely fit, a safe hand & decent fielder, 'll not be a MoYo/Inzi like burden in inner circle.

Azhar is a limited batsman, but extremely hard working & mentally tough player. Batsman of his type, normally reaches their pick at a bit matured age, because, they make up their lagging in natural ability with experience & determination. In that regard, I think, Azhar has just entered into his best days as a batsman and next 4/5 years, he 'll be at his batting best (players like him enjoys best period between 29 to 35 - one of the best example is probably the man he has just replaced as PAK ODI Captain). Now, weather he 'll be able to transform that into an effective ODI top order batsman, that has to be seen - that risk is there indeed.

What could have been other options - MoHa, Malik? No doubt, better short-term solutions, but, standing 50 months before next WC, appointing someone in mid 30s (& probably in decline) is just as I said somewhere else - shortsightedness, which PCB commited last time. Appointing one of them Captain & a young deputy has it's own risk as well - chances are high that Malik or MoHa 'll try to prolong their tenure (& career) at the expense of the younger incumbent (deputy) through off-field antics. Besides, Malik has to make the team as player first & both of them were actually sacked last time - may be a fresh start with someone new is not bad. Appointing MoHa, 'll need swallowing lots of humble pie, for very little gain - may be, 4 years back at 30/31, MoHa was the best choice, but then PCB opted for the then MoHa - 36 years old Misbah.

Apparently ideal candidate looks to be Sarfraz - not even 28 yet (Officially, I must say), almost certain as automatic starter for next few years, has domestic & International Captaincy experience (& success, albeit at Junior level) AND most importantly - he makes the team as a player, Azhar had to be drafted in as Captain first. But, I think, PCB was looking for someone with a bit of education & a better personality, who 'll not be Management headache. I agree your concern about sacking a Captain - the whole establishment comes under scrutiny, BUT, for Azhar's case, I see it other way. If Azhar is sacked as Captain, I am certain, it 'll be due to his failure as an ODI player, not because of being an incompetent Captain. So, if Azhar is sacked, I think it 'll be managed without any negative impact to the set-up - if it can be managed properly. For outer world, Azhar 'll step down on personal grounds & retire from ODI team to focus on Test career & it 'll be a smooth transition for Sarfraz from deputy to boss (It 'll never be Afridi like case, where the sacked Captain 'll be retained as player to bite back). Positive side is, by 2019, PAK 'll have a Captain, who makes the starting XI on merit, has couple of years of Captaincy experience (& before that, couple of years of being deputy).

I see it as positive for Sarfraz - at 27/28, leading the side & being WK for all 3 versions, might be too much for him. He is destined to become the T20 Captain in a years time, I am sure, PCB has better plans with someone they are investing so much, than scrapping for the failure of his ODI boss. Besides, Azhar actually isn't new in Captaincy domestically - he has led Sui Gas (& led Misbah, MoHa I believe), as well was appointed Captain on KP Side recently - I don't think these were just by coincidence.

I agree with you MoHa/Malik-Sarfraz/Fawad is a low risk-low gain solution, but Azhar-Sarfraz could be a low risk-high gain solution as well. Sarfraz is tactically decent, street smart, great fighter; might not be articulate, communicative enough. He can improve his weaker side under someone like Azhar & take over from him in 4 years time at 32, for next 4 years. May be Azhar/Sarfraz pair 'll be much more productive than say Misbah/Afridi in the coming 4 years, if they complement each others weaker sides.

I don't see much merit either in any combination if you choose between Sarfraz/Shehzad/Fawad/Haris/Maqsood - it's high risk, low gain situation. Knowing a bit of history, any combination with Sarfraz/Shehzad/Fawad/Haris/Maqsood - MoHa/Malik/YK is a Low gain - disaster solution.
 
PCB is a lot more stable now, there won't by any radical changes made anymore.

Azhar needs to be given time and space to mould the team in which way he sees fit, he is a good and committed bloke.
 
Elevating Ali to the ODI captaincy will probably be one of the worst decisions of the PCB.

He couldn't even cement his place in the ODI team and now he has become the captain.Wah, kya baat hai.
 
I wish Azhar goes back to the 4 fast bowlers formula from the world cup. I know these are sub continental pitches and all but I am 100% sure we will be a stronger, more modern unit as a result. It will help get rid of Hafeez and other mediocre sub continental/weak opposition bashers too - which is what we need.

JK's wickets yesterday tell the story.
 
Azhar will lead Pakistan in the 2019 World Cup. The days of chopping captains on monthly basis are long gone.

If Azhar is the captain until 2019 most likely we will not qualify in the main round with our tuk tuk batting.
 
Good move to watch a captain longterm for next 4 years but not the best candidate when it comes to ODIs!
 
I'm not sure how much long term planning came into it or how much teams can really plan from 1 world cup to another. Cricket isn't football and the WC isn't the summit. A lot goes on in the 4 years outside of jamodis which have a far greater effect on team selection.

Azhar was presumably chosen because he is seen as the future test captain once Misbah finally retires and they either didn't want to split the captains going forward, or wanted to try out Azhar in the one-dayers. It's a good idea and hope it comes off.
 
The major issue I had with Azhar being appointed captain apart from the obvious lack of experience is that he is 30 years old already. So this flies into face of one of the main reasons being given that he is going to be a long term captain. You cannot plan for someone to play till they are 40 like Misbah. You plan them to be over the hill by the time they are 35 and going byy that token he only has one WC campaign in him. And who knows when the test captaincy spot becomes vacant.

Azhar is a gamble too because of him being raw and untested in captaincy. So why take a gamble where the potential returns if he is successful wont be for that long. If you are gonna gamble anyways then might aswell pick someone with atleast 2 potential WCs in him. Which is why Sarfaraz was a better bet in my opinion. Or even Fawad Alam. Both have a lot of captaincy experience atleast. nd Hafeez would have been a low risk option but the rewards would have been same

Another issue is that this pretty much takes out the possibility of Sarfaraz becoming a full time captain ever in the future. As VC, you are:

a) a future successor of the current captain, and/or
b)at the very least seen as part of the same group and hence the associated thinking in terms of strategy and ethos.

So if Sarfaraz ever is in a position to become the captain it will most likely be because Azhar is totally messing it up as a leader and was sacked rather than him coming to end of his cycle or an era ending. It most certainly wont be a voluntary stepping down from Azhar's part and even if it is it wont be for any other reason than being pressured to do so because of results. But Sarfaraz being tied to the Waqar, Azhar team would mean that the likelihood that will be low.

Usually when a captain is sacked the idea is to move on from his failures and what he stands for, meaning that his whole team (him, VC, head coach etc) goes with the possible exception of the head coach if he was not part of the whole time duration of captaincy. So in such a case it will be highly unlikely that PCB will turn to Sarfaraz as the next captain unless he has been his own man all this time and disassociates from the rest which doesn't seem to be his personality.

So in these decisions, PCB has firstly taken a gamble where the reward is low for the risk taken. And then in one swoop it has effectively curtailed the future captaincy ambitions of Sarfaraz in case of Azhar;s failure.

PCB should either have taken a huge gamble with a younger captain where the returns in case of success would have been greater or longer or should have gone the low risk, experienced choice like Hafeez or Malik imo. This Azhar appontment doesn't serve a whole lot
Still hold this opinion.

PCB messed up big time here
 
Caught slippin.:afridi1

Lol how?

His average was 40+ until very recently, and his SR's 75 ish.

I backed him for some time until I saw how pathetic his captaincy was (which I did not mention in that post).
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] had similar thoughts and even went on to say that he'll captain 'till 2019. :yk2 Why no quoting him?
 
Lol how?

His average was 40+ until very recently, and his SR's 75 ish.

I backed him for some time until I saw how pathetic his captaincy was (which I did not mention in that post).
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] had similar thoughts and even went on to say that he'll captain 'till 2019. :yk2 Why no quoting him?

I was thinking more like the 2017 Champions Trophy when it comes evaluating his captaincy, 2 years is a good enough window. However, he simply lost too many series on the trot and was a bit unfortunate to play three series against England and Australia in 2 years. However, he proved that he is not cut for captaincy and I'm glad that he has been relieved without much delay. No point in persisting when you know it won't work out.
 
PCB governing body member Iqbal Qasim Said:

Making Azhar Ali captain is a part of next Four years planning. He should be fully supported.

Youngsters have been given chances as to prepare for next world cup.

Wahab Riaz should bowl like he bowled in World cup to play a vital role in winning against Bangladesh.


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well unless you wanna get knocked out from automatic qualification for WC.. we will carry on with Azhar Ali.. obviously its clear a change was needed
 
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