Masoomana sawaal : What happens if Pakistan has to bat first in the final?

[waleed88]

Are we looking at a score of 250?

Do we have a game plan in place for that? Or is our team just a one trick pony?

Because judging by all our games, we have won the toss (most of them)and elected to bowl in all our games... which has been our tournament's strategy

What will we do? Can our top 4 kick in and make the day count? The tournament has heavily been in favor of teams chasing..We know Fakhar bats quickly but what about the others, what will Azhar, Babar and Hafeez do?

 

[troodon]

Score 300 and put India under pressure. Someone needs to score a big hundred. Who will it be? No batting star in Pak lineup.

Pak has enough bowling to shut India down to under 300.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

If they bat first we will see the repeat of today's match ind vs Bangladesh.

Pak will scratch to make 265+ and India will win by 4 or 5 wickets in hand with 4 overs to spare. If I remember correctly the last time pak defended a score against India was in 2012 aane do series at Eden gardens in the recent past

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

That is what I want to see too. But I would prefer India to set a target rather than chase in a high pressure match.

 

[zyrus]

Simple! Bang bang bang! Set 330 as target.

 

[zyrus]

Score 300 and put India under pressure. Someone needs to score a big hundred. Who will it be? No batting star in Pak lineup.

Pak has enough bowling to shut India down to under 300.

Fakhar, Hafeez, Babar, Malik, Sarfraz. All are capable to do this.

 

[Sirris]

Ideally get a 300+ score.

Realistically lets hope they manage to score around 280.

The seniors have to step up no ifs and buts.

 

[coy0607]

what do you think happens?

Zaman and Azam pile on 300+ and Hasan destroys the Indian top order

 

[troodon]

Fakhar, Hafeez, Babar, Malik, Sarfraz. All are capable to do this.

A big hundred?

I don't envision any of them doing that. I may be wrong. But at best one or 2 of them may score a 50.

 

[Khwaja]

Don't worry we were going to score 300 against eng anyways.

 

[waleed88]

Do we need a change in the batting order? Too many dot ball consumers are in the top 3 barring Fakhar

 

[Badsha]

Depends on how lucky we get. Zaman is a key player in our batting line up. If he gets going and gets us a nice fast 60 it gives time for Azhar to settle in as well and gives us a solid platform. Babar Azam is due a big score as well. If we're lucky, we can potentially set a big total. Issue is, Indian batting line up is very strong.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Indian fans are worried about Pakistani bowling and Pakistani fans are worried about Indian batting. Things are getting normal again.

 

[Pete Rose]

It tells you the state of Pakistan's batting that our fortunes will be decided by a guy who debuted a week ago.
Not the 18 year old veterans who will predictably wilt under the spotlight

 

[Madplayer]

Let me tell you one thing , the oval pitch is FLAT.

If you score 300, its simply a below par score. You might not as well show up if thats what you going to post.

Batting first, Pakistan has to score 340+ to stand a chance.

India on the other hand only has to score 300 against Pakistan if India bat first.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Let me tell you one thing , the oval pitch is FLAT.

If you score 300, its simply a below par score. You might not as well show up if thats what you going to post.

Batting first, Pakistan has to score 340+ to stand a chance.

India on the other hand only has to score 300 against Pakistan if India bat first.

Pressure in a final means 320 is a winning score.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

What happens if we bat first? We'll lose obviously. Our batsmen are the most self serving cricketers in the game, none of them can rotate strike and while Fakhar can make up for that by blasting big shots, the rest of them won't risk their wicket, so expect a sub 300 score which India will chase down comfortably.

If we are chasing, then the batsmen can't hide, the scoreboard pressure means they have to go at the required RR otherwise they will be exposed as the selfish players they are.

 

[Khwaja]

Yes.. the artificial pitch at the oval will be FLAT.. it's better to play inside my empty office building than it is to play on these 2017 ipl pitches.

 

[F0ulu]

If Pakistan bats first, then Pakistan will score somewhere around 330-350 and wallop India even before India comes out to bat. I think India's only chance against Pakistan lies in batting first and wading their way slowly through the almighty Pakistani bowling, to rack up a target of 220-230 or thereabout before getting bowled out. That way, at least India can still fancy their chances by bowling better when Pakistan is out to bat.

 

[Sirris]

Do we need a change in the batting order? Too many dot ball consumers are in the top 3 barring Fakhar

We definitely need a change in our batting approach.

But I have a feeling that for the CT they are going to stick with the same batting order to make the "seniors" feel safe about their position so that they can concentrate on their game and not have to worry about too much.

 

[waleed88]

Indian fans are worried about Pakistani bowling and Pakistani fans are worried about Indian batting. Things are getting normal again.

There is a huge gap between the standards of both teams batting unit... a gulf that is so wide, that you can fit 20 of our batsmen in the lineup and still they won't be as good as India's 10

 

[Madplayer]

Pressure in a final means 320 is a winning score.

Not true about India. Indians dont take pressure at all. One positive that has come out of the IPL is that they know how to play infront of a big crowd in a big final.

 

[waleed88]

Not true about India. Indians dont take pressure at all. One positive that has come out of the IPL is that they know how to play infront of a big crowd in a big final.

I disagree, there was pressure on the Indians in the first ODI game, you could see it when they were dropping catches in their fielding, or while they were tied down by Hassan and Amir in the first game, where they only made 15 runs in 5-6 overs between overs 32-36...

There was pressure, they won't say it in the press conferences obviously, but the hype does get to them

The only thing that they are ease with is a score in the range of 200-270.. that is their bread and butter and default batting standard

 

[SameerK]

Indian fans are worried about Pakistani bowling and Pakistani fans are worried about Indian batting. Things are getting normal again.

Hopefully we are in for a good final. Pakistan must step up once against but this is their biggest challenge ever. Players like Fakhar, Hasan are thrown in the deep end very early.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Gotta bowl first

 

[waleed88]

We definitely need a change in our batting approach.

But I have a feeling that for the CT they are going to stick with the same batting order to make the "seniors" feel safe about their position so that they can concentrate on their game and not have to worry about too much.

This hasn't happened, no coach has been able to do it ever in the history of Pakistan, we are just weak chasers and really scared as a unit while batting most of the time

 

[Inzi_fan_No_1]

If we bat first we will do well to get even get what Bangladesh got today.

 

[Kianig89]

If we bat first Sarfraz has play in top 5 can't leave it to perpetuities Malik n Hafeez and may be throw a pinch hitter Hassan or Imad on middle over whose job should be to get 25 in 12 balls #up the ante

 

[SameerK]

I disagree, there was pressure on the Indians in the first ODI game, you could see it when they were dropping catches in their fielding, or while they were tied down by Hassan and Amir in the first game, where they only made 15 runs in 5-6 overs between overs 32-36...

There was pressure, they won't say it in the press conferences obviously, but the hype does get to them

The only thing that they are ease with is a score in the range of 200-270.. that is their bread and butter and default batting standard

I don't think Indian players were under pressure. As said before IPL has helped the Indian players to do better in pressure situations. Sure they were dropping catches but that was just an off day in the field, any team could have that type of day in the field. Also as you said Hasan and Amir slowed them down but India always take a slow start and as shown before the first game have the slowest start out of all the teams in the competition.

 

[Sirris]

This hasn't happened, no coach has been able to do it ever in the history of Pakistan, we are just weak chasers and really scared as a unit while batting most of the time

That's true but it is never too late to change.

What I actually meant was that right now we are blessed with too many seniors such as hafeez and Malik. After the CT one of them has to go, at least. Only then we can try out new players and see where we get from there on.

 

[Madplayer]

I disagree, there was pressure on the Indians in the first ODI game, you could see it when they were dropping catches in their fielding, or while they were tied down by Hassan and Amir in the first game, where they only made 15 runs in 5-6 overs between overs 32-36...

There was pressure, they won't say it in the press conferences obviously, but the hype does get to them

The only thing that they are ease with is a score in the range of 200-270.. that is their bread and butter and default batting standard

Not true. They werent under pressure. That was their batting approach. To preserve wickets and go hard in the end. They followed the same thing against SL but lost that game. After that match, Kohli even mentioned that they will have to look at this approach and see what changes could be made.

 

[waleed88]

I don't think Indian players were under pressure. As said before IPL has helped the Indian players to do better in pressure situations. Sure they were dropping catches but that was just an off day in the field, any team could have that type of day in the field. Also as you said Hasan and Amir slowed them down but India always take a slow start and as shown before the first game have the slowest start out of all the teams in the competition.

IPL is nowhere close to a tournament final, this is Virat's first tournament as captain, MS DHoni would be cool and calm but Virat has shown jitters... if you remember the game vs india in Asia cup 2014 which Pak won, Virat was captain and he was really nervous and emotional throughout the game...

Obviously that was 3 years ago, but a tournament final is a final, and IPL can never equate to the pressure of that day..

The pressure was there in the India vs Pakistan semi final game in 2011, and it will be there even more in this game.... everyone feels pressure and its how much you control on the day that will make you better

Virat wasn't himself as a batsman either in the 4th June game, until he was dropped and then he came into his own, the pressure was definitely there

 

[NauV]

Pakistan can not handle pressure against India . . Pakistan historically is a poor chasing side . . Let alone pressure of a final . . And to add to that playing against India . . So for Me, only chance Pakistan has of winning this game is to bat first and put a good score on the board . . Bat 2nd and we reduce our chances to almost nothing

 

[waleed88]

Not true. They werent under pressure. That was their batting approach. To preserve wickets and go hard in the end. They followed the same thing against SL but lost that game. After that match, Kohli even mentioned that they will have to look at this approach and see what changes could be made.

Lets be honest, if Virat and Yuvraj weren't dropped, and Wahab wasn't bowling rubbish or Junaid was playing, the score would be much less than the Indians manage to reach in the end...

 

[aniket1911]

It's a double edged sword, Pakistan's batting is not as nervy in first innings as in second. If Fakhar & co, blitz away to rollicking start then shoaib & sarfaraz can easily take them to 280ish total.

Then the real challenge arise, to face Pakistan's potent attack. Hasan in middle overs bowls with a field that is given to new bowl bowlers and he is relentlessly accurate with the field.

There are no discount bowlers in this Pakistani line-up and that is scary to watch.

While, on the other hand, if they get out to 220-230, even W & W can't defend the total against Indian batting lineup.

 

[zulfiqar]

I think batting first is better, because it allows our batsmen to bat more freely, and I think they will score around 280~. However, it looks like management/captain is set on bowling first. I think the reason that I'm beginning to understand is that it's hard to know what a good score is on these tracks for all teams involved, so if you have a strong bowling line-up, you will do your best to knock them over and disrupt their plans, and then calculate the chase when you come out to bat. Of course, this traditionally has not worked for Pakistan because we haven't had batsmen of high caliber, particularly when calculating a chase.

And what about India? What if they win the toss? They usually like to chase targets, but will they feel that Pakistan is the one team that they should bat first against? The result of the first game will favor this plan as well. Pakistan showed in all three group stage matches that we can make a mountain out of even the smallest chase. Will Kohli change the formula that India has adapted against Pakistan traditionally and choose to field?

Personally I feel this is a good toss to lose because Kohli might opt for what he's more comfortable with, which is chasing. This can back-fire dramatically because without scoreboard pressure, Pakistani batsmen perform better, and there is a chance that we can score big, 300+. Can India chase 300 in a Final against Pak bowling line-up? I'd back the men in green!

So be ready for Pak to chase. This isn't all that bad though, considering how well we have done so far. As long as we bowl & bat with courage, we can win in both departments!

 

[Langau]

Pak should score at least 285
InshaAllah fakhar and azhar will give a 70+ opening stand.
Batting 1st is the only way to go.
InshaAllah hafiz sarfaraz will bring the cup for all of us.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

That is what I want to see too. But I would prefer India to set a target rather than chase in a high pressure match.

Please do not doom us.

The chasing side has won an overwhelming number of matches at this tournament, and for very good reason.

 

[nitrous]

3 changes I would make:

Faheem in for Raaes
Amir in for Shadab
Harris in for Azhar

Professor to open with Fakhar

Hafeez
Fakhar
Babar
Harris
Malik
Sarfraz
Imad
Faheem
Amir
Hasan
Junaid

 

[Madplayer]

Lets be honest, if Virat and Yuvraj weren't dropped, and Wahab wasn't bowling rubbish or Junaid was playing, the score would be much less than the Indians manage to reach in the end...

Pakistan were bowled out for 160 bro. And they never even tried to go after the bowling.

 

[Indiafan]

I disagree, there was pressure on the Indians in the first ODI game, you could see it when they were dropping catches in their fielding, or while they were tied down by Hassan and Amir in the first game, where they only made 15 runs in 5-6 overs between overs 32-36...

There was pressure, they won't say it in the press conferences obviously, but the hype does get to them

The only thing that they are ease with is a score in the range of 200-270.. that is their bread and butter and default batting standard

India is the slowest of all team in the first 10 overs, so there was no tying up. Rohit and dhawan are just getting more confident as the tournament progresses

 

[waleed88]

Pakistan were bowled out for 160 bro. And they never even tried to go after the bowling.

Yes because by the time the score was too much for our batting, but if it was 270 in 48 overs, it was chaseable range, and the tournament standard until then, since it was almost 6 an over

 

[waleed88]

India is the slowest of all team in the first 10 overs, so there was no tying up. Rohit and dhawan are just getting more confident as the tournament progresses

Yes I know that, but they were tied down and wickets were stumbling, Yuvraj and Kohli both gave chances before they carried on.... before that Rohit panicked and was run out since he played at a SR of 70
the pressure had got to them, Pakistan missed opportunities while they had India on the back foot

 

[waleed88]

Not true. They werent under pressure. That was their batting approach. To preserve wickets and go hard in the end. They followed the same thing against SL but lost that game. After that match, Kohli even mentioned that they will have to look at this approach and see what changes could be made.

Usually team's who plan to go hard in the end falter against good bowling attacks, Wahab was seen as the good who gave alot of runs away and they continued to go after them.. which is why whenever they built pressure it was released from the other end

 

[Markhor]

Not sure how people are so confident Pakistan can set 300+ scores.

Our 1st inns average in ODIs since the 2015 WC is 284 and even that's inflated by scores versus Zimbabwe, Ireland etc.

Chasing would be our best bet as it has been proven in the last three games. However it'll be a big ask of our bowlers to produce the same sort of performance for the fourth game running especially given that The Oval pitches have been the flattest in the tournament.

 

[CricketCartoons]

That is what I want to see too. But I would prefer India to set a target rather than chase in a high pressure match.

India will win easily, whether they bat first or second. Not wasting my Sunday watching a rerun.

 

[zyrus]

A big hundred?

I don't envision any of them doing that. I may be wrong. But at best one or 2 of them may score a 50.

50 + 50 + 100 + 30 + 30. Thats how you win games against good teams.

 

[Square Drive]

300 is the bare minimum we'll have to score.

Must bowl first at all costs.

 

[thehub]

If Pitch is going to be a fresh wicket, India will rollover Pak like they did in group match. If it is going to an used wicket and if India lose the toss, then it would be 55/45 in favour of India and India bowls first, it would be 90/10 in favor of India.

overall India has very high probability of winning this game. mentally they are much stronger than Pak as well. I will wait for pitch report and toss. if fresh wicket, I will put 200 Bucks on India straight away. If used wicket and if we win the toss, then again 200 bucks on India. if we lose the toss, just 50 bucks on india. as simple as this.

 

[Langau]

300 is the bare minimum we'll have to score.

Must bowl first at all costs.

If we must bowl first at all costs then why should 300 be bare minimum?
Shouldn't it be the maximum?

 

[Rana]

I think Bangladesh crumbled today because they were under the impression that they must score 330+ to make a game out of this.

We need not take this unnecessary pressure. Pakistan bowling right now is very good at containing a team to less that 5-6 runs an over. Teams in the past three games have struggled to get 4.5 runs per over. Personally, I want Pakistan to bowl second because its the only team that has succeeded in exposing reverse swing after ages in ODI. I would back them to defend 270 even if they must.

 

[shokz1408]

We will have to score atleast 330 to win. Really wish we win the toss and chase.

 

[ar2020]

This is why Faheem is a MUST. If he does not play he will lose 100% guaranteed.

 

[Square Drive]

If we must bowl first at all costs then why should 300 be bare minimum?
Shouldn't it be the maximum?

The first part of the post was my answer to the question in the OP.

Second part was what I feel they should do if they win the toss.

 

[Watsupdoc]

Score 250 only for India to overhaul it in 40 overs...

If Pak bats first they need to post 350+ to have any chance of winning.

 

[cricketInsight]

Batting first Pakistan has to target 320 but anything below 300 will be a cake walk for India.

My fear with batting first, we might be too scared to for 320 and end up settling for 270 and hoping our bowling bails us out. The bowling is not going to be as effective on the flat deck so batting has to step up.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Make Aamir bowl to Rohit and Junaid to Kohli.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Score 250 only for India to overhaul it in 40 overs...

If Pak bats first they need to post 350+ to have any chance of winning.

320 will be a competitive target, even 300 if we bowl well, which we could do if we pick the right seamers.

Unfortunately, if you read Hafeez's interview before the semi final it was clear enough in there that the batsmen don't consider 300 necessary, their purpose is to get to around 270 and hope the bowlers will save them.

 

[srh]

Are we looking at a score of 250?

Do we have a game plan in place for that? Or is our team just a one trick pony?

Because judging by all our games, we have won the toss (most of them)and elected to bowl in all our games... which has been our tournament's strategy

What will we do? Can our top 4 kick in and make the day count? The tournament has heavily been in favor of teams chasing..We know Fakhar bats quickly but what about the others, what will Azhar, Babar and Hafeez do?

ticket katao line banao to go back empty handed for Pakistan?

 

[HateKiller]

If Pakistan wins toss, they will bowl first. If India wins toss, they will bat first.
In either case, Pakistan are going to bowl first. So better strategize accordingly.

 

[Runner Up]

I believe that is the only chance for Pakistan. Forget about past result and bat first if chance given.

 

[waleed88]

If Pakistan wins toss, they will bowl first. If India wins toss, they will bat first.
In either case, Pakistan are going to bowl first. So better strategize accordingly.

Nope India will bowl first as well, they always have whenever they got the chance

 

[waleed88]

Batting first Pakistan has to target 320 but anything below 300 will be a cake walk for India.

My fear with batting first, we might be too scared to for 320 and end up settling for 270 and hoping our bowling bails us out. The bowling is not going to be as effective on the flat deck so batting has to step up.

You are overestimating our bowling attack, this batting won't get more than 250

 

[Idreamofcricket]

Our bowling is good.. but not THAT good.. I'm remembering the 2007 world cup in India where the "deadly" Pakistani bowling was taken apart by the Indians... I fear the same or worse in this final. Indians have developed a knack to play our bowlers too well.. plus the factor where our all playing 11 are mentally down when playing against India.

 

[Idreamofcricket]

If Pakistan wins toss, they will bowl first. If India wins toss, they will bat first.
In either case, Pakistan are going to bowl first. So better strategize accordingly.

Both teams are going to want to bowl first and chase. Kohli's team definitely believes they are best when chasing.

 

[Idreamofcricket]

Our bowling is good.. but not THAT good.. I'm remembering the 2007 world cup in India where the "deadly" Pakistani bowling was taken apart by the Indians... I fear the same or worse in this final. Indians have developed a knack to play our bowlers too well.. plus the factor where our all playing 11 are mentally down when playing against India.

2011 WC I meant.. not 2007

 

[super hitter]

Are we looking at a score of 250?

Do we have a game plan in place for that? Or is our team just a one trick pony?

Because judging by all our games, we have won the toss (most of them)and elected to bowl in all our games... which has been our tournament's strategy

What will we do? Can our top 4 kick in and make the day count? The tournament has heavily been in favor of teams chasing..We know Fakhar bats quickly but what about the others, what will Azhar, Babar and Hafeez do?

I wish they do, and Fakhar plays a handful lnock...Ovals pitch is good for batting, chasing a target means chasing 350.

 

[Last Monetarist]

If we bat first, the most important thing is that we retain our composure and attempt to bat sensibly and get a competitive score around 290-300. India are favourites regardless, but scoreboard pressure in a final can do strange things. I shan't lose hope, unless the team throws in the towel psychologically and goes into a shell.

 

[ar2020]

If we bat first, the most important thing is that we retain our composure and attempt to bat sensibly and get a competitive score around 290-300. India are favourites regardless, but scoreboard pressure in a final can do strange things. I shan't lose hope, unless the team throws in the towel psychologically and goes into a shell.

If we try to bat sensibly we lost straight away man. Stop this sensibly crap. Pitches are dead. What do you need to be sensible about?

 

[Last Monetarist]

If we try to bat sensibly we lost straight away man. Stop this sensibly crap. Pitches are dead. What do you need to be sensible about?

I meant sensibly not in the old fashioned sense of keeping our powder dry and wait to slog until the death overs, but as a general point about not panicking if we are forced to bat first. We all saw what happened with England at Cardiff due to muddled thinking and not being able to change gears when needed. The last thing I want is for the team to throw its wickets away thinking we need 350 to win, as that's an inevitable path to getting bowled out for 220. It's a shame but we simply don't have the batsmen to be able to throw the bat around for the whole 50 overs like the English.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I disagree, there was pressure on the Indians in the first ODI game, you could see it when they were dropping catches in their fielding, or while they were tied down by Hassan and Amir in the first game, where they only made 15 runs in 5-6 overs between overs 32-36...

There was pressure, they won't say it in the press conferences obviously, but the hype does get to them

The only thing that they are ease with is a score in the range of 200-270.. that is their bread and butter and default batting standard

Nope pressure means nothing to them especially batting. They thrive under presaure

 

[Abdullah]

Are we looking at a score of 250?

Do we have a game plan in place for that? Or is our team just a one trick pony?

Because judging by all our games, we have won the toss (most of them)and elected to bowl in all our games... which has been our tournament's strategy

What will we do? Can our top 4 kick in and make the day count? The tournament has heavily been in favor of teams chasing..We know Fakhar bats quickly but what about the others, what will Azhar, Babar and Hafeez do?

We will hope the following things happen. All are plausible.
52-1 after 10 due to Fakhar
95-1 after 20 with babar and Azhar consolidating
Malik and hafeez dominate the spin and pandya from 20-40. Basically need the malik v india special.
215-3 after 40.
Malik hafeez/babar Sarfaraz and Fahim at the end getting us 90 off the last 10.
India need 306 to win

Pak get 2 early breakthroughs and India are 45 -2 after 10.
Pak keep chipping away with India 145-4 after 30 with kohli batting with yadav.
Back come the quicks and we just storm through the opening leaving India teetering at 195-7 after 40.

Hasan knocks over kohli last man out in the 49th over and India lose by 23 runs with hasan doing his celebration in front of kohli

Oh my...

 

[Syed1]

Not sure how people are so confident Pakistan can set 300+ scores.

Our 1st inns average in ODIs since the 2015 WC is 284 and even that's inflated by scores versus Zimbabwe, Ireland etc.

Chasing would be our best bet as it has been proven in the last three games. However it'll be a big ask of our bowlers to produce the same sort of performance for the fourth game running especially given that The Oval pitches have been the flattest in the tournament.

Yeah if we have a choice we should chase, restrict India to 220 odd and chase it down with ease. Basically what we did against SA, SL and ENG. However, the question is if we lose the toss and are put in to bat.

 

[JohnWick25]

If we score anything over 270, our bowlers can have a sniff. Build pressure from both ends.
Hasan, Junaid. Imad, Shadab. Amir & Raees are more than capable of that. Just back them in the field and wickets will come.

 

[Syed1]

Nope pressure means nothing to them especially batting. They thrive under presaure

Yeah that is why they scored at 3 rpo in the middle overs. Even with just one wicket down there were large parts of the innings without any boundary. It's just that India had help from Wahab Riaz who was ready and willing to gift 10 rpo and Amir got injured which meant Imad had to bowl the last over (which he never would have done otherwise), the last over ended up costing 23 runs. India were looking set for a 280 target before things got out of hand for Pakistan.

 

[ChachaPakistani]

I disagree, there was pressure on the Indians in the first ODI game, you could see it when they were dropping catches in their fielding, or while they were tied down by Hassan and Amir in the first game, where they only made 15 runs in 5-6 overs between overs 32-36...

There was pressure, they won't say it in the press conferences obviously, but the hype does get to them

The only thing that they are ease with is a score in the range of 200-270.. that is their bread and butter and default batting standard

I agree with you, there will be pressure on them for sure. Just need to bowl a lot of dots to them and wickets will fall. Its the same with any team. We just happen to be the masters of doing it ourselves.

And they will most certainly feel pressure in this match. Its the final, not some pheeki first match of a group setting.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Yeah that is why they scored at 3 rpo in the middle overs. Even with just one wicket down there were large parts of the innings without any boundary. It's just that India had help from Wahab Riaz who was ready and willing to gift 10 rpo and Amir got injured which meant Imad had to bowl the last over (which he never would have done otherwise), the last over ended up costing 23 runs. India were looking set for a 280 target before things got out of hand for Pakistan.

That means pressure lol All Indians are capable making up in the end. Check the strike rate of Indians in the last 10 overs. It is planning. They target bowlers. Has an was manhandled as well. Nobody will be spared in death overs.

 

[Syed1]

That means pressure lol All Indians are capable making up in the end. Check the strike rate of Indians in the last 10 overs. It is planning. They target bowlers. Has an was manhandled as well. Nobody will be spared in death overs.

We shall see

 

[jnaveen1980]

We shall see

Typically I am a pessimistic Indian fan. Over the years guys like Dhoni Yuvi Kohli made me believe they can handle any pressure situation. I don't say pak can't win But it won't be because Indias choking

 

[MesonK]

Somehow reach 280-300. Azhar Ali or Babar Azam will need to get a hundred with couple of fifties from Hafeez, Malik, Sarf, Zaman. Lower order needs to fire up as well. Indian bowling can allow that and we have seen it. Lanka did it. Today Bengal batters lost the plot themselves otherwise they were cruising towards 300 too at one point.

Pakistani batsmen need to find gaps and take singles/doubles. Forget playing in air, forget playing dot balls with hopes that you will get a boundary to even it out.

if 280 is reached, pakistan has the bowling to make chances. Get Dhawan and Kohli out. Even in our moments of retardness like in ist match at edgbaston, wahab got kohli out and a simple catch was dropped, he stayed N.O till end. Yuvraj was dropped as well. This cant happen in final.

Amir, Juni, Hass can do it.