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Matthew Hayden vs AB de Villiers - Who was the better batsman?
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Do some work - add stats also.
Sure, mate.
<B>Matthew Hayden:-</B>
Tests:-
Matches:- 103
Runs:- 8625
Avg:- 50.74
Odis:-
Matches:- 161
Runs:- 6133
Avgs:- 43.81
<B>AB de Villiers:-</B>
Tests:-
Matches:-114
Runs:- 8765
Avgs:- 50.66
Odis:-
Matches:- 228
Runs:- 9577
Avgs:- 53.50
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Peak Hayden in all formats, all conditions, all tournaments.
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Abd in both formats.
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They can be compared in the test format, but AB is far ahead in the ODI format. Over all , it will be AB.
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AB in ODIs because he revolutionised modern-day ODI batting.
In tests, Hayden although AB was an all-condition bat unlike Matt.
In tests, Hayden although AB was an all-condition bat unlike Matt.
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What did he revolutionize exactly?
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360° batting. A pioneer of 360° modern-day batting.
Having said that, he had his issues which means he underachieved even in his favourite format.
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Cute. Thanks for clearing my doubts bro
360 degree batting is just a PR phrase. Playing some useless ramp shots over the keeper's head in useless matches isn't revolutionizing the game. No batsman out there really aspires to be a so called '360 degree' batsman.
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Cute. Thanks for clearing my doubts bro
360 degree batting is just a PR phrase. Playing some useless ramp shots over the keeper's head in useless matches isn't revolutionizing the game. No batsman out there really aspires to be a so called '360 degree' batsman.
https://m.sport24.co.za/Cricket/Proteas/kohli-ab-changed-the-way-batting-was-seen-20180526
Not everything is useless. I am not interested in further discussion.
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Hayden across all formats. He did not hide behind others.
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Hayden in all formats.
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Lol abd revolutionizing odi format.....
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I know. Almost choked at that one.
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ABD is prob one of the ATG odi players. All conditions.
Also his 360 play did revolutionize cricket, because it lead to lots of aggressive striking. One of the key differences is their strike rates. Haydo's at a above par 78 s/r. I remember 70-75 was considered good in ODI's back them, so that is certainly very good. ABD at 100 strike rate, while averaging 50, in an era where I assume striking at 80-90 was considered pretty good generally, that is like striking at 10-20 runs higher than the best players. Shows his greatness.
Nowadays 100 s/r is expected, with 2 new balls etc, so in that sense he was one of the most spectacularly entertaining pioneers of the modern approach to cricket. Some may call them revolutionaries!
Also his 360 play did revolutionize cricket, because it lead to lots of aggressive striking. One of the key differences is their strike rates. Haydo's at a above par 78 s/r. I remember 70-75 was considered good in ODI's back them, so that is certainly very good. ABD at 100 strike rate, while averaging 50, in an era where I assume striking at 80-90 was considered pretty good generally, that is like striking at 10-20 runs higher than the best players. Shows his greatness.
Nowadays 100 s/r is expected, with 2 new balls etc, so in that sense he was one of the most spectacularly entertaining pioneers of the modern approach to cricket. Some may call them revolutionaries!
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There is hardly any comparison when it comes to ODI.
To put it in perspective,
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To put it in perspective,
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I would choose AB , for me he was a better player.
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Not sure why people are underrating AB here in odis.
He is arguably among top 5 ODI batsmen of all-time and one of the best batsmen of his era.
Just like Jayasuriya changed the way opening is seen in limited overs, in a similar way AB also changed the way batting has been perceived in slog overs where he became the toughest batsmen to bowl to . Ofcourse, it would be hard for some insecure folks to digest, who at a same time, try to undermine Kumar Sangakkara because if he continued for a bit long and not retired, he would have smashed the record of his favourite to all parts.
He is arguably among top 5 ODI batsmen of all-time and one of the best batsmen of his era.
Just like Jayasuriya changed the way opening is seen in limited overs, in a similar way AB also changed the way batting has been perceived in slog overs where he became the toughest batsmen to bowl to . Ofcourse, it would be hard for some insecure folks to digest, who at a same time, try to undermine Kumar Sangakkara because if he continued for a bit long and not retired, he would have smashed the record of his favourite to all parts.
No one is underrating AB. He is undoubtedly one of the greatest ODI batsman of all time.
People are questioning your claims that AB revolutionized ODI batting which is absolutely incorrect. The true pioneers of ODI batting are guys like Viv, Jayasuriya and Gilchrist etc. There is nothing AB has done in ODIs which can be termed 'revolutionary'. Fancy shots don't count.
Regarding the last part of your post, what is that even supposed to mean?
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I have said modern-day ODI batting. Cricket has changed a lot in last 15 years. Gone are the days when openers would give you start and a score of 270+ was enough to win the match.
Yes, he was a revolutionary as far as modern-day ODI batting is concerned. An ultimate genius of the game who revolutionised the art of batting as he could play some unbelievable believe-me or not shots against some of the best bowlers he has played with. Innovativeness and creativity is something which is loved and admired across the globe.
However, quite like SRT in the second half, he was susceptible under pressure and also lost the hunger of winning during the latter part of his career which is why he retired early and hence would only make it to the top 6-7 greatest ODI bats ever.
As for last line, you can happily ignore that.
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AB did not change ODIs. Plenty of batsmen played unorthodox shots in his era like Dilshan's dilscoop and Dhoni's helicopter shot.
The true game changers were the likes of Jayasuriya, Tendulkar, and Gilchrist. Even Afridi has revolutionized game more than AB.
