Member Interview : Miandadrules

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PakPassion.net : Why do you think that Shoaib Malik is the greatest ever batsman produced by Pakistan?

Miandadrules : He isn’t the just greatest batsman, he is the greatest cricketer ever.

Can you name a cricketer than has engendered a collective stupidity on a massive scale amongst his fans as the “Scorching fire of Perth circa 1976” has? Has any other sportsman inspired a travelling fan base like Malik’s beloved “Hare Krishnas”? That is greatness right there for you.

There is a reason why everyone from SF Barnes to Dale Steyn openly confess that the “The GOAT” is the greatest batsman they have ever bowled to.


PakPassion.net : Who would be your favourite batsman, bowler and captain of all time?

Miandadrules : I started watching cricket at a very early age and at that time Imran Khan and Javed Miandad, were Pakistan cricket and I thought they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. I guess the people that we hold up as heroes as children are never really toppled because of the innocence of our childhood. As I have matured I have gained perspective of their standing amongst the greats and obviously there have been greater cricketers but not too many especially in the case of Imran. Despite gaining greater perspective, these two men still hold a very special place in my heart for the manner in which they carried our cricket to unforeseen heights. So from a nationalistic point of view my favorite bowler and captain would be Imran and batsman would be Miandad. However, that is different to the players I enjoyed watching.

I was too young to truly appreciate Viv Richards, as his peak was before I was born but I did get to watch some great knocks at the tail end of his career. Even back then you could see the amount of respect players and fans alike had for him.

The following players were my favorites growing up;

Australia – Border and Alderman

England – Gower and Botham

India – Vengsarkar and Kapil

New Zealand – Crowe and Hadlee

Sri Lanka – De Silva and Ratnayake

West Indies – Richards Marshall, Hooper and Logie

South Africa – Clive Rice.

My favorite bowlers were Michael Holding and Waqar Younis. Holding may have been labeled whispering death but he was poetry in motion for me. For me he was the most natural fast bowler ever and had the perfect action. His action was so smooth and seamless I could watch it all day. The excitement Waqar generated especially at his peak was infectious and it really did inspire you to go out and bowl as fast as you can.

My favorite batsmen of all time are Lara and Tendulkar, closely followed by Ab De Villiers, Saeed Anwar, Sehwag, Damian Martin, Richie Richardson and Dravid.

I can’t really say who my favorite captain is because you’re only as good as your resources but I always thought Stephen Fleming did a remarkable job with what he had.


PakPassion.net : Where do you see Pakistan cricket in five years from now?

Miandadrules : It’s very difficult to envisage what the future holds especially as I haven’t seen enough domestic cricket to make a reasonable judgment. That said I am more confident in the future of our Test team as opposed to the limited overs sides.

As stated earlier, I think the Test team is developing the foundation of a good unit. With the addition of Amir and possibly Asif, there will be added potency and depth (more on my feelings about their return below). If a world class batting talent does emerge then we will have a team that can be competitive around the world. If two batting talents emerge then we will have a side that could challenge for the top spot. But these are big ifs.

The short-term future of the limited overs teams looks bleak and if we don’t develop or rediscover our batting culture the long-term future isn’t looking too bright either. I am more optimistic about our T20 team simply because of the unpredictable nature of the format. However, I am concerned that other sides are developing and evolving as specialist T20 units whereas we are stagnating and seem blissfully unaware of it.

The underlying cause of my pessimism is that there isn’t a single limited over batsman that inspires any confidence. Even the ones that have a modicum of success have the caveat of it being against weak opposition or on benign surfaces and for many both.


PakPassion.net : How do you see Pakistan team's chances at 2016 Twenty20 World Cup?

Miandadrules : In all honesty I’m not too optimistic but I would love to be proved wrong. With the nature of T20 cricket and the format of the tournament, if you win the right three matches, you can theoretically win the tournament. Unfortunately, the current team doesn’t have the required quality in my opinion to string a series of good performances for me to confidently back them.

If we take in to consideration the format, the tournament layout and it being held in India I would say a semi-final berth is within our grasp. But the other teams seem better prepared and more focused than us. It’s just not a team, which can string a consistent run of victories together based on what I have seen so far.


PakPassion.net : How high do you rate Sachin Tendulkar and what are your opinions on him?

Miandadrules : Without doubt he is the purest batsman I have ever seen. I could sit and watch him all day, as he is the closest to technical perfection I have ever seen.

What I admired most was his backlift and follow through. It’s the smoothest execution there has ever been, in my opinion. The real striking thing about it is that in the 150 years of cricket that nobody has come close to matching it. The beauty of Sachin’s batting is that everything seemed in sync. There was never any jitteriness or unnecessary movement. Coupled with a serene stillness of his head and then that beautiful arc of his backlift following an almost straight trajectory to the ball, which almost always met with the greatest surface area of the bat, whether it was played with a straight or cross bat. That is batsmanship of the highest order and an exhibition of unparalleled technical prowess. I just wish our younger batsman could focus on these two aspects and see how far their games would develop.

If only Sachin had that “killer instinct” I don’t think there would even be an argument as to who the greatest batsman ever was. However, that is the greatest knock against him, that he rarely seized the initiative when destiny beckoned him.

I think to truly excel at anything and to reach unforeseen heights be it not just in sport but in life itself, I think there has to be an element of narcissism. One must believe that they can achieve more than those around them, that you are not confined by their limitations. Maybe, Tendulkar just wasn’t enough of a narcissist to seize these moments, whereas Lara evidently had a great ego and saw himself greater than his peers. Now, this attitude may be necessary to reach the pinnacle but it doesn’t necessarily mean it is best for the team. I think Lara was more willing to take the risk to play a great knock, even if it meant such an approach if it fails, which it often did, would be highly detrimental to the team. With the same token I think the weight of expectation hindered Tendulkar from taking such a cavalier approach. The Indian public demanded he delivered on the role of a great batsman each time he stepped on to the outfield but in doing so they never let him truly break the shackles.

I have always said that Tendulkar was a player you could bank on being an all-time great day in day out, whereas with Lara you could at times get an all-time great, whereas other times a liability but occasionally he would do things no other batsman has ever done and it would leave you astounded.

Now which you value more is subjective and that is the beauty of cricket and sport in general.


PakPassion.net : What is it that you dislike about Shahid Afridi?

Miandadrules : I think it’s convenient for Afridi fans to label my criticism of the player and of the man as hate because it is hoped it will take away the credibility of the statements.

Let’s first address the issue of Afridi the player. I feel that for the vast majority of his career he has been carried and rarely justified his selection. We have someone who has consistently failed against every non-minnow side and his sporadic success has been limited to occasional performances against minnows and the weaker sides, that too only when the conditions are heavily tilted in his favor. If this is the barometer for success then why don’t his fans extend this courtesy to the remaining playing eleven?

To be consistently rewarded for continually failing is a perplexing and an unnecessary burden on the other players. What role has Afridi truly fulfilled in the two decades he has played? Other than a short period where he justified his selection as a limited overs bowler, the rest of the team has always carried him.

For the first decade Afridi was for all intents and purposes a sideshow. It was accepted by fans and players alike that we would enter each contest a man short, as he brought absolutely no value to the team. The fact that he was played as an opener in a desperate attempt to somehow accommodate him is dumbfounding. It seems his supporters seem to totally ignore the dilapidating effect he had on the team in those years. This is a man who actually played as a front line batsman in world cup final after being a complete failure both as a batsman and bowler for the entire tournament.

Rather than being conscious of his shortcomings and making a concerted effort to improve his game and justify his selection, he has consistently put his interests ahead of his team. The cavalier, reckless approach has made him millions and he has made a conscious effort to play for this brand rather than team Pakistan. By always shirking responsibility he has cost Pakistan numerous games and it would not be an exaggeration to say he has by far cost us more games than any other player. Yet I am supposed to be grateful for this?

If this wasn’t enough in the later half of his career, for someone unknown reason this sideshow was maneuvered in to the position of Kingmaker. Constantly blaming players for defeats and always putting his interests ahead of the team became routine. The shameful manner in which he abandoned the team in England and used the spot-fixing scandal to further his own interests was thoroughly disgusting. Add to this his leaking team news and creating instability both in 2009 and particularly in the run-up to the 2015 World Cup, where he was openly campaigning for the captaincy, was thoroughly shameful. Even with a world cup in the most difficult of conditions beckoning all he cared about was himself. I ask you again am I supposed to be grateful for this?

So desperate are his fans for some credibility that they will create all kinds propaganda and revisionist history. How many times will we hear that Afridi “single-handedly” won the T20 world cup? Totally ignoring the fact that Abdul Razzaq had ended it as a contest within the first 5 overs and that the openers had set it up for Afridi to once just play sensibly. Do we hear about Umar Gul’s heroics in that tournament? Or that Afridi was a liability throughout until the final two games? What about Afridi’s 6’s against India being on the same level as that executed by Miandad at Sharjah? That Sharjah knock brought us our first ever ODI tournament victory, that too against our archrivals, who consistently had the edge over us in ODIs. How often are we going to hear the blatant lie that Afridi exposed the spot-fixing scandal? The truth and reality doesn’t seem to matter, let alone tally.

Then we move on to Afridi the man.

Firstly, I do understand the reason behind the way he acts. I see Afridi, as a spoilt child, who has never grown up. He was a media creation who was thrust on to a naive audience and has since been given carte blanch to behave whichever way he likes without any accountability.

However, this doesn’t mean that it is acceptable to give such behavior a pass. From his endorsement of unethical products to his self-promotion under the guise of charity, there are a number of things I take exception to with regards to his conduct. As someone who works with a number of charities I find his opportunism in this area to promote himself particularly tasteless.

Then he uses the media platform provided and his celebrity status to make statements on issues he is nowhere near qualified to do so. I’m sorry if people find my criticism of his chauvinistic and prejudicial comments offensive. But when someone makes such comments I will pull them up on it.

Lets not forget the incident of his agent threatening posters on Pakpassion with regards what they post about him. Despite such undignified behavior, his actions will be defended blindly and futile attempts will be made to justify and validate his comments.

I don’t have a dossier of all the issues I have had with him and I tend to comment on incidents when they come up. But if I have posted anything that has been fabricated and not backed up with facts then please pull me up on it and I am more than happy to address each point.

I think those that take umbrage with my criticism of him would have greater validity if they could show that I didn’t apply the same criteria to everyone. Unfortunately, for them I apply the same standard to Afridi, as I do of others, something that is evidently absent from his fans.

I don’t think he is evil incarnate, just ignorant but ignorance is no defense. I’m sorry that his fans have been sold a lie and feel the need to vent their anger towards me when I point out the blatant fallacies but that’s an issue they will have to come to terms with. I certainly won’t be partaking in such ignorance.


PakPassion.net : Give us a little bio of yourself please. I.e. where you grew, how many siblings, etc.

Miandadrules : I was born in Rawalpindi but moved to the United Kingdom with my foster parents when I was two. I grew up in Birmingham till I left for University in Manchester when I was 18. After University I spent a lot of time travelling the world with my trusted backpack.

When I returned to England I enrolled at a Medical School in West London and currently work as an Anesthetist in London. I split my time working with Doctors without borders and Doctors Worldwide, in addition to my post as a Consultant.

I guess I have gained a fair amount of life experience having worked a wide variety of jobs whilst putting myself through University. I have worked as a nightclub doorman, a grounds man, a cricket and boxing coach, as a call center worker, in the fashion industry, a research scientist and now as a Doctor.

I have four older brothers from my foster family.


PakPassion.net : As for cricket, who do think can be Pakistan's next superstar (IK, Wasim, Afridi..etc)?

Miandadrules : Firstly, we have to define what you mean by a superstar?

Is it based on inspirational performers like Miandad and Waqar?

Purely commercial success from media creations such as Afridi?

Or a mixture of the two like with Wasim Akram and Imran Khan?

Afridi isn’t a “superstar” in the same manner as the others mentioned nowhere near, other than from a commercial stand point.

Unfortunately despite my reservations about him, the only player on the horizon that I can envisage achieving “superstar” status currently is Mohammad Amir. I think he could achieve it both on the field and commercially, and the early signs are with the manner in which he is being promoted that this sordid tale will be repackaged as a story of redemption. However, without doubt the return of the trio makes me very uncomfortable.

However, a distinction has to be made about how I feel and how the law should be applied.

A person can only be punished according to what the law was at the time of the crime being committed. Hence, Amir along with the other two should be allowed to return under surveillance. However, I feel this will and already has set a dangerous precedent in a country like Pakistan.

Pakistan is a country in which corruption is endemic at every level, permeating every aspect of life and is the root cause of many if not all the ills that blight us. The only way out of this quagmire is to hold ourselves and our society to a higher standard and to make accountability a paramount priority. For these reasons I am strongly in favor of a ruling being passed that any player found guilty of such offences receiving a life-time ban from international cricket from now on.

I anticipate the criticisms this proposition will receive and I will attempt to address some of them here.

Firstly, many will say that players are entitled to earn a living. Well, playing international cricket isn’t a right, it’s a privilege and the greatest honor a player can aspire for. Nobody is stopping them from earning a living and they can do so from domestic and international club cricket. Also nothing is stopping them from earning a living in any other field. But to equate withdrawing a substantial salary by retaining a position, in which you have actively betrayed the trust that was entrusted in you, isn’t the same as being confined to a life of poverty. There are very few instances in which a person is restored to a position after they have abused it.

Others will say that why should we single out players when so many in Pakistani society are never held accountable. The two are not mutually exclusive. Let’s hold all accountable. If this view is valid than every Pakistani should leave all their doors open and go on a looting spree and let chaos rein. Change occurs from the bottom up, not the top down. We as a collective have to demand accountability and live our lives to a higher standard if we are to have a better future.

Everyone makes a mistake. Sure they do but representing your country is the greatest honor one can bestow and if you’re made aware that any transgression or betrayal of this honor will result in it being rescinded beforehand then there shouldn’t be an issue.

Finally, there is the case that others have returned for other countries. They are not my concern; I have no say, nor a vested interest in how their societies are run. I have a say in Pakistan’s affairs and it’s cricket and as someone who has seen the deleterious effects of corruption I want my people to live life to a higher standard for the greater good of our society.


PakPassion.net : Do you follow football? If so, what's your favourite football team from league?

Miandadrules : I’ve never truly been a football fan if I am honest. I played a little at school but as I got older cricket and boxing pretty much took up most of my time. When I began boxing in the ABAs, I never really had sufficient time to play, because of the training involved and my academic commitments.

I regret not mastering the basics as all my friends are far superior to me, and it is without doubt a beautiful and versatile sport. Due to the ubiquitous nature of football I am always aware of what is going on and what the premier league table looks like.

I used to support Liverpool when I was very young and I guess I still root for them but I never watch a game unless I’m with my football mad friends. That said I have been lucky to have watched games at the Nou Camp and Bernabeu stadium.

As a player, I can safely say I’m good on the field until the ball actually reaches my feet.


PakPassion.net : Do you think the 1990s Pakistan team ultimately underachieved?

Miandadrules : It certainly did underachieve but not in the manner most on PP seem to believe.

They underachieved in that from 1995 onwards that team was horrendous. I remember HOME series loses to Zimbabwe, Sri Lanka, Australia, South Africa, England (in 2000) and a drawn home series against New Zealand. In fact as we never played India, our only home series win to stand in the late 90’s was the whitewash of the West Indies, who were being whitewashed by everybody away.

Even away from home we were decent but nothing more. We got hammered in Australia, had a 0-3 record in the Caribbean. Wins over Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, England and New Zealand and a draw against South Africa redeemed our standing somewhat but when one considers how poor the English (of 1996) and New Zealand sides were in the mid-90s it gives us a better perspective

I think many fans look back nostalgically and blur timelines. They reel off names when reminiscing about the 90’s team and mention Wasim, Waqar, Malik, Inzi, Anwar, Sohail, Saqlain, Mushy, Mahmood, Razaq, Afridi and Ijaz. The mistake being made when you reel the names off, is the assumption that they were all at their peak and were consistent strong performers, which is far from the truth.

From 95 onwards Malik was finished, the 2W’s were enjoying the last moments of their absolute peaks, whereas Sohail and Mushy were done by 1996. Saqlain only truly came to fore from 1998 onwards.

So as has been the case for much of our history, the 90’s team was carried by a select few whereas the rest were passengers. If that wasn’t enough many were allegedly indulging in unscrupulous practices and the focus was more on grabbing power and forming factions than elevating Pakistan cricket.

The ODI team was more successful and competitive but even back then was heavily reliant on the bowlers and as the 90’s progressed we gradually forgot the art of chasing, meaning our destiny was usually left to the toss of a coin.
 
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PakPassion.net : How would you compare two of Pakistan's all-time legends in Imran Khan and Javed Miandad - with their vastly differing social backgrounds and mindsets, yet were still able to form a great partnership? Would it be fair to say Javed was more tactically astute?

Miandadrules : I think those that wish to paint a romanticized view have grossly exaggerated the differences between the two. Imran was not an aristocrat and Miandad was not a pauper. In fact, essentially they were very similar in the most important aspect and that was their allegiance to Pakistan and their desire to see her succeed and flourish both on and off the field.

I have posted about their relationship in the past, so I won’t tread on old ground. However, what I will say is that I think modern fans, through a prism that was created after their departure view their relationship adversely.

The chaos and venom that spewed between the players that succeeded them has led many to assume that this was the case amongst them too, which is far from the truth. There certainly was a professional rivalry and a hint of mistrust between the two, as both wanted to be the undisputed stars of Pakistan cricket. But this was played out more so by elements within Pakistani society (media, MPs etc… who fueled ethnic and class divisions) rather than the two men themselves. However, I think they also had a distinct fondness for one another and accepted the realization that they needed each other.

I wouldn’t say Miandad was more astute but I would say he was more intuitive. He was able to think on his feet faster and was able react whilst in play quicker. However, I would say that his long term planning wasn’t great as can be seen by his captaincy and coaching stints. At times I felt Javed was too focused on short-term gains.

Imran on the other hand was a good long-term strategist. However, he could be a little static in reacting to subtle shifts during a game. There is also criticism that at times Imran was a little one-dimensional when it came to dealing with a crisis during a game. If the batting was failing his default was Javed, if the bowling was lagging he would revert to himself (and later Wasim and Qadir). This I think is a little unfair, because in a crisis you obviously revert to your most dependable asset.

So in conclusion I think they complimented each other more than anything else.


PakPassion.net : Since you know so much about old players, did you actually see them play or your opinions are formed after reading/watching old videos?- When did you start watching cricket and why the interest?

Miandadrules : I am the youngest of five brothers and basically they were all cricket enthusiast so I grew up with cricket in the house; be it either playing in the garden or talking over dinner.

Back then it was very difficult to watch Pakistan matches. I know I was playing cricket before I started watching it. My earliest memory was watching the England vs Pakistan match during the world championship of cricket in Australia. I was very young but was totally mesmerised by the colored clothing and white ball. I also remember the semi-final against the West Indies and the depressing final against India. These were just highlights shown in the evening on BBC but it’s the earliest memory I have.

When I was younger I enjoyed playing cricket a lot more than actually watching it, which at time I found arduous. But I was cricketing mad as child and I think I played everyday. I played for Warwickshire youth teams from the age of 10 till 15 and I guess when I was very young I aspired to play professionally but by the age of 13 I had begun to lose interest.

If the truth be told I was a fairly limited and at best was decent club cricketer and once I discovered boxing I was relieved to be dropped from the youth setup.

Until probably the age of 20 I played less and less and watched sporadically as my interest waned. Then just by chance I was asked to coach a group of 10-12 year olds. As I didn’t want to teach them incorrectly and hinder their subsequent development I began reading coaching manuals and attempting to understand the mechanics of the sport. Then I would try to watch as much cricket as I could, to see how players of different ability went about the execution of their game. I learned a great deal about why certain players succeed whilst others failed and how important it is to understand the mechanics involved.

This actually rekindled my interest in the game and I would try to watch old footage whenever I could and listen and observe intently when players would talk about their game and their techniques.

Unfortunately, due to my various commitments I rarely get time to watch much cricket but I try to watch short highlights when I can. I think my opportunities to watch are going to diminish further as I have so much going on but I think I will always keep abreast of what is happening in Pakistan cricket as long as I have my faculties, mainly thanks to the incredible resource that is Pakpassion.


PakPassion.net : You are following cricket since a long time, so tell us why we are not producing genuine fast bowlers as we produced in the past?

Miandadrules : I think it’s unrealistic to expect a conveyor belt of express fast bowlers. In our history we probably have had four truly express pacers in Waqar, Shoaib, Zahid and Sami.

We also have to differentiate pace from quality and understand in this context perception is everything. We also have to keep in mind that we lost a generation of fast bowlers due to the spot fixing scandal. Would we still bemoan our fast bowling resources had Asif and Amir continued playing? Even though Asif was far from fast, had he partnered Amir these last five years, the world would be hailing the fast bowling factory that is Pakistan. The perception would be that there was so much abundance that bowlers like Wahab, Gul, Junaid, Irfan et al are mere support acts.

Other than the West Indies of the late 70s and early 80s I can’t think of any side in the history of the game that can lose their front line bowlers and maintain their fast bowling prowess. Would our fast bowling legacy be as prestigious if Wasim and Waqar were lost early in their careers?

However, there are a few contributing factors which make me fearful of the future. From my understanding, over the last decade the PCB has implemented a policy of excessive green tops in domestic games. This has led to seamers that concentrate on bowling line and length, letting the surface do most of the work. If this is the case it also has led to batsmen having shaky techniques, as they are unable to develop the desired repertoire of shots, which results in hesitancy in stroke play. The quality of the ball used in the domestic circuit and possible over coaching at the NCA I think are also contributing factors.

Bowling is proactive and expressive and hence I think it will be easier to turn the tide with regards to the direction our bowling is going than it will be to see a dramatic shift in out batting landscape. We are in need of an inspirational figure to reinvigorate the fast bowling fire in the manner in which Waqar did in the 90’s.


PakPassion.net : Was there ever a time you fell out of love with cricket, or you took a break from watching it?

Miandadrules: I think the best way to describe it is that cricket was something I inherited, whereas Boxing was what I fell in love with.

If I’m honest I haven’t truly been in love with cricket since I was 14. Once I was dropped from the Warwickshire youth team and the realisation that I wasn’t good enough to succeed at the highest level my interest dwindled.

Ironically when I was younger I enjoyed playing but struggled to sit through a full match because I had a superficial understanding of the game. As I mentioned earlier my love was rekindled once I started coaching and since then I have developed a deeper appreciation of the sport. Now I can watch the most boring passage of play and still be enthralled, as I will focus on the most minute of details. Be it the way the ball is being gripped, the movements a batsman makes, the manner in which the fielders patrol or the strategies being implemented.

Unfortunately, with so many commitments I rarely get a chance now to even watch the shortest passage of play.


PakPassion.net : Which young Pakistani batsman has the talent to surpass Javed Miandad?

Miandadrules : The short answer is no but it’s not necessarily the doom and gloom negative answer it might appear to be.

Firstly, we have to realise that in our history we have produced probably only seven batsmen of the caliber of Miandad. These being Hanif, Zaheer, Salim Malik, Anwar, Inzi, Yousaf and Younis Khan. This is not to say they were equally as good or better but they were/are to varying degrees distinctly superior to their teammates and peers.

On a side note, I have noticed a tendency for younger fans to make blanket statements regarding Miandad, that “he wasn’t that talented" and "he had a poor technique” which I personally feel is way off the mark. He wasn’t completely orthodox but he had solid fundamentals, phenomenal feet, good hand-eye co-ordination coupled with great hands and wrists.

So, batsmen of the caliber of the men I have mentioned come around rarely, even more so in Pakistan, where our batting culture has been eroded. We’are basically averaging one truly world class batsman a decade.

Now, on to the good news.

Throughout our history we have been heavily reliant on a few great and good players that have carried the entire team. If these players played well we succeeded, if they failed so did we. What has been ever present is that without exception we have always carried a number of players in the starting line-up that didn’t warrant selection or just weren't up to par. This is the root cause of the famous “predictably unpredictable” tag line. Expecting six players to compensate for an additional five is inevitably going to lead to inconsistency.

What I believe fans and the cricketing hierarchy in Pakistan are guilty of is constantly being fixated on discovering the next great thing and neglecting the foundations of the team. The Pakistani cricket set-up, not just the PCB, is in all fairness is quite corrupt. Everybody is out to the line his or her pockets and to be known as the person that discovered the next great player. In doing so they have totally ignored the fundamental needs of the team. So, we have a dichotomy where our elite players are expected to perform each and every match and make up for the deficient players, whilst others are given a free ride regardless of their performances. What our great players of the past truly missed out on were solid support players; something the establishment have no interest in developing or investing in. Our more successful periods have been when our support players have been stronger.

However, the current crop of “young” batsmen, Azhar, Asad, Shehzad, Haris, Rizwan, Fawad, Sarfraz, Babar and Umar Akmal to name a few, are all good players with different strengths and weaknesses. Now, despite the fact that I dont think any of these batsmen from what I have seen so far, will go on to become “greats”. What I do think is that they have the ability to be 40+ averaging test batsmen. Some may scoff at that but I’d rather take seven 40+ averaging batsmen than two 50+ averaging players carrying five other dead weights.

What we have here is the basis of a solid foundation, that provides a great launch pad should a great batsman emerge in the future. Rather than this “great batsman” carrying his teammates, this current crop have the potential to propel the team to great heights should an elite level batsman emerge. The same is true of the bowling line-up. Our weakness has always been our support bowlers.

The limited overs batting however, doesn't look as promising and is a serious area of concern. I think fundamentally we are reaping what was sowed decades previously. The media lauded slogging over batsmanship and sporadic minnow bashing as a substitute for performances against the best.

There is a distinct lack of dynamism in our batting and it seems we have only three types of batsmen, sloggers, blockers and anchors. Many on PP bemoan the lack of quality limited overs batsmen and are adamant that it’s due to nepotism and corruption that great talents are not being given a run. Unfortunately, despite corruption playing a role I feel the main reason is that we have totally eroded our batting culture. We have encouraged young players who take up the sport to slog wildly rather than time the ball. As a consequence most of these youngsters won’t make it through the first class system and those few that do are badly exposed at the international level.

Because we have so many hacks littering our domestic scene it has resulted in the more conservative batsmen rising to the top and on to the selectors radar. Now, this has probably helped stabilize the Test team but it has been a death knell for the limited overs teams. These players are better than the hacks but just don’t have the all-round game to succeed in modern limited overs cricket. Hence, we’ll probably see conservative players like Asad Shafiq continually being recalled to the ODI team.

There is a third group who I refer to as anchors and they are the closest we have to the modern ODI batsmen. This group consists of the likes of Haris, Azhar, Rizwan etc... Now these players have the quality and ability to justify selection to the ODI team however, they all play in a very similar manner, in that they start cautiously and then gradually gain momentum. Unfortunately, in the modern ODI format you really only have the luxury of one, maybe two at a stretch of such players. Ideally they are dispersed amongst your strokemakers, of which we have very few.

Some certainly have the potential to be high quality ODI batsmen but it remains to be seen whether they will be able to improve their game and establish themselves. Players like Rizwan, Haris, Umar Akmal, Babar Azam and Sarfraz need to improve certain areas of their game to be considered quality modern day ODI batsmen.

I think the main area for concern for Sarfraz is giving him a run at a fixed position with a defined role. It’s hard to pinpoint it without seeing it in the context of the players that will bat around him.

Umar has been a disappointment thus far and unfortunately has regressed since his debut. The onus is on him to improve and evolve but he seems content to blame his performances on external factors. Despite my reservations about whether he can succeed at Test level due to his stagnant development, I still believe at the very least he has the makings of a good ODI batsman.

A quick word on Shehzad. I think it is fair to say that he hasn’t become the batsman we’d hoped when we saw him debut as a 17 year old. However, I think some of the criticism he receives is unwarranted.

Until, he can develop his game further I can’t see him having a role in the limited overs sides. However, I still think he can play decent role in the test team, as currently from all the potential openers I have seen he seems the best equipped. He liberally gets labeled as a hack, which I think is erroneous. He is limited and doesn’t seem to read the game too well whilst batting but he is far from a hack. The concern I do have is since he was hit on the head, I have noticed a hesitancy on his part to fully get behind the ball. If this continues I see him having a very short career.

The situation is more pronounced in the T20 team, as I would say the Umar Akmal is the only natural T20 batsman I have seen thus far, and he doesn’t exactly inspire confidence.

I think our batting situation in T20’s truly reflects the dire situation we are in. There is a litany of wild sloggers and hacks coming through on a conveyor belt, selected on the basis of a few undignified knocks in domestic cricket and are quickly exposed. The ability to score quickly whist executing normal cricket shots seems like a totally alien concept.

Sharjeel Khan is one that is labeled as a hack, but I would say there is more to his game than that. He is a clean striker of the ball and generally looks to time the ball and has good hand-eye co-ordination. I certainly believe he should be given a run in the T20 team but it remains to be seen if he has enough to break in to the ODI team.

I don’t think it would be feasible to go through each and every batsman here but if anyone wants my opinion on any of the batsmen I have seen I am more than happy to share it on the forum.


PakPassion.net : Why Pakpassion? How did you come to know and join the site?

Miandadrules : My journey to Pakpassion is a long one and because of the timeline involved I can’t be sure of the exact dates. I think I first came across PP in either 1999 or 2000. I was on the Channel Four cricket forum and back then news about Pakistan cricket was scarce. I must have followed a link to the original PP from the C4 site and the rest is history.

PP was a very different place back then and it didn’t seem to be moderated.It certainly wasn’t the treasure trove of Pakistan cricket information that Saj has turned it in to but it was the best resource available at the time. I stuck with it when it moved from one server to the next but I hardly ever posted and didn’t register for the longest time, preferring to be a lurker. The Miandadrules username actually came about when I was forced to register to view some material. After having my first five or so attempts rejected, out of frustration I decided to type a username nobody would ever think of. Had I known I would have been using it 10 or so years later and actually posting under it, I would like to think I would have picked something far wittier.

Despite not being moderated (or it certainly didn’t appear to be) back then, it was still a highly entertaining forum. I remember the spoof Rawalpindi diaries which were posted fondly but that’s for another day.

I think PP is a great platform for posters to understand one another. Even those that are here to troll and post with an agenda will by and large come to the realisation that for all intents and purposes we have far more in common than we have differences despite our racial, national and religious bias. That’s not to say that we will all get a long and some of the views expressed here I do find abhorrent. But given enough time I think such interactions allow one to breakdown preconceived ideas and stereotypes.

It’s also very heartening to see so many talented people not just as part of the admin staff but also as posters. It makes me hopeful for the future that it is in the hands of some very bright and inquisitive minds.

I think a special mention to the moderators is in order. They do a fantastic job in facilitating discussions on such a wide variety of topics, in what is essentially a thankless task. Keep it up boys and girls.
 
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"Massive" Thanks to MR for posting answers in such detail!

Think this has got to be the most detailed member interview we have ever posted.

Amazing insight into the mind of MR :)
 
"Massive" Thanks to MR for posting answers in such detail!

Think this has got to be the most detailed member interview we have ever posted.

Amazing insight into the mind of MR :)
It is detailed. ..
Its been 6 minutes paased and I couldn't finish reading it [emoji23]

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Good interview, very good read. Glad to see my question made it even though i had to PM a mod because i missed the thread :$ :)
 
A very good and a lengthy read - certainly one of the best posters around on PakPassion.
 
MASHALLAH, bro brilliant interview.
On a side note, I have noticed a tendency for younger fans to make blanket statements regarding Miandad, that “he wasn’t that talented" and "he had a poor technique” which I personally feel is way off the mark. He wasn’t completely orthodox but he had solid fundamentals, phenomenal feet, good hand-eye co-ordination coupled with great hands and wrists.
Spot on.
 
One of the best interviews on PP! Really enjoyed it!

Hare Krishnas! I find this tag really funny :)))
 
To call this interview just nice would be doing it a massive disservice.

This was an OUTRAGEOUSLY AMAZING interview. Every single question was answered with such detail, clarity and crispness that I am blown away.

A brilliant interview by a brillaint poster who generally keeps tuk tuking cos he is bored but can turn it up whenever he wants to. ;-)
 
[MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION] is my favorite poster on PakPassion. Gem of a person he must be, as well!

Most rational and our opinions often tend to match. ;-)

Hare Krishnas bit was amazing. :))) :))) The way Malik fans usually run away from a thread seeing miandadrules has arrived, that's always hilarious to witness! :D
 
One of my favorite posters. Says it like it is, very straightforward and backs up his claims.
 
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Interview took a while coming but it was more than worth the wait - nice to get to know some background knowledge of one of the great posters on here as well as his views on several key Pakistan cricket issues in immense detail.
 
I loved this interview, my favourite one so far. Good job [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION]!

The part about Malik and his fans was hilarious. Loved it. :)))
 
One of the best posters on PP when it comes to our cricket if not the best; he deserves more respect but miandad really seems to wind people up the wrong way with his rationale. Great read, I really enjoyed this interview; and damn! didn't know you were a licensed Amateur boxer great stuff it's not easy at all, I attempted to at one point in my life but gave up because the training was too much for me to handle and I was demoralized by the level fighters were at around me. Am thinking of giving it another go but aim to get into great shape first, that's the toughest bit.
 
I loved this interview, my favourite one so far. Good job [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION]!

The part about Malik and his fans was hilarious. Loved it. :)))

Where's that gif :))) the hareh krishna one is the best, even better then all the ones I post.
 
Where's that gif :))) the hareh krishna one is the best, even better then all the ones I post.

krishna-o.gif
 
Fantabulous interview by [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION].

That was an amazing read.

He is my favourite poster at PP. He is very busy with his life but I just have one gila from him that he only spares his time here for shoaib Malik and Shahid Afridi whereas he had such a deep insight into the game and his understanding of the game is at such high levels that his opinion at other subjects can be immense.

He is very intelligent person and one with high IQ quotients here at PP.

He is the only person who challenged me and he won the challenge which he richly deserved to win.

The lengthiest interview probably and the best interview I have read here.

Thanks alot [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION].
[MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION] Aapka bhee zikr e kheir hua hai bro which is well deserved.
 
Hare Krishnas bit always cracks me up. [MENTION=135445]Strike Rate[/MENTION]

Top interview. Cricketing knowledge is immense. He doesnt make as much of an effort like some other guys to contribute to a lot of threads and unfortunately PP loses out but whenever he comments he is usually spot on.
 
[MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION]

This is gold. Proper, real gold. Loved the english, loved the insight, loved the style, loved all of it.

Best interview from any poster ever. Period.

Thank you so much for this. This just made my day. Absolutely brilliant.
 
I always found miandadrules to be almost obsessively preoccupied with Afridi and Malik. Not that he didn't have a point, but these players have been around for a long time and they have made a career through strengths as well as weaknesses. That said I do recognise that he is probably one of the best cricket analysts on this board and certainly knows more about the game from a technical standpoint than me so may well be right over the long run.

Good read as usual.
 

PakPassion.net :
How high do you rate Sachin Tendulkar and what are your opinions on him?

Miandadrules : Without doubt he is the purest batsman I have ever seen. I could sit and watch him all day, as he is the closest to technical perfection I have ever seen.

What I admired most was his backlift and follow through. It’s the smoothest execution there has ever been, in my opinion. The real striking thing about it is that in the 150 years of cricket that nobody has come close to matching it. The beauty of Sachin’s batting is that everything seemed in sync. There was never any jitteriness or unnecessary movement. Coupled with a serene stillness of his head and then that beautiful arc of his backlift following an almost straight trajectory to the ball, which almost always met with the greatest surface area of the bat, whether it was played with a straight or cross bat. That is batsmanship of the highest order and an exhibition of unparalleled technical prowess. I just wish our younger batsman could focus on these two aspects and see how far their games would develop.

If only Sachin had that “killer instinct” I don’t think there would even be an argument as to who the greatest batsman ever was. However, that is the greatest knock against him, that he rarely seized the initiative when destiny beckoned him.

I think to truly excel at anything and to reach unforeseen heights be it not just in sport but in life itself, I think there has to be an element of narcissism. One must believe that they can achieve more than those around them, that you are not confined by their limitations. Maybe, Tendulkar just wasn’t enough of a narcissist to seize these moments, whereas Lara evidently had a great ego and saw himself greater than his peers. Now, this attitude may be necessary to reach the pinnacle but it doesn’t necessarily mean it is best for the team. I think Lara was more willing to take the risk to play a great knock, even if it meant such an approach if it fails, which it often did, would be highly detrimental to the team. With the same token I think the weight of expectation hindered Tendulkar from taking such a cavalier approach. The Indian public demanded he delivered on the role of a great batsman each time he stepped on to the outfield but in doing so they never let him truly break the shackles.

I have always said that Tendulkar was a player you could bank on being an all-time great day in day out, whereas with Lara you could at times get an all-time great, whereas other times a liability but occasionally he would do things no other batsman has ever done and it would leave you astounded.

Now which you value more is subjective and that is the beauty of cricket and sport in general.


:nonstop::nonstop::nonstop::nonstop:
 
Really enjoy reading this guys post... DInt know he was a fellow Pindi Boy
 
Cracking interview - one of those where you can sit back with a cup of tea and enjoy.

Liked especially the historical stuff as some younger fans don't recall much cricket past the 99 WC and have only heard about the great names of the past like Imran or Javed but this interview actually analyses what made them successful and its great for history nuts like me.

Could've gone on for longer !
 
It's nice to hear from veterans about how PP was in the late 90s/early 2000s.
 
Agreed, sachin might be technical a correct batsman but he never really had that killer instinct :))
 
This guy [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION] is one poster that inspired me to join this forum in a bid to be like him.

I am no way as intelligent, articulate, witty or for that matter, knowledgeable as he is and I have no shame in admitting that.

Would seriously like to meet him in person. Really respect him
:hafeez :bow::amir

:aamer:69:
 
Hare Krishnas bit always cracks me up. [MENTION=135445]Strike Rate[/MENTION]

Top interview. Cricketing knowledge is immense. He doesnt make as much of an effort like some other guys to contribute to a lot of threads and unfortunately PP loses out but whenever he comments he is usually spot on.

Don't call hare krishna here or they will take this thread to 10 more pages :yk MR is one of my fav poster top interview.
 
Hehe respect grows for [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION].



That's quite a CV you have there sir. I've only been associated with your satirical posts on Afridi and Malik but this is quite some in depth analysis and perspective on the world of Pakistan cricket.



We have very well articulated posters here, who are also pretty successful in there field. Its good to know. Sign of a well educated forum!!
 
Its nice to know that Pakistan cricket has some really sophisticated followers.

We are used to the wholesome of so-called journalists like Yahya Hussaini, Majid Bhatti, and Emmad Hameed. Not to mention hosts like mirza Iqbal Baig sawera pasha and Nasim Rajput.

We need more of this please and less of that. I get a feeling that Pakistan cricket has another value here on PP, while on TV its just a source for cheap gossip in the news, and cheap conspiracy theories.

While the game itself is a wholesome of tuc biscuits and Shahid Afridi Haier Ads and Service tyres. Our game has this pathetic broadcast coverage that appeals only to the masses like a t20 game where the whole crowd comes to watch Afridi bat and nobody even bothers to come see a test match.

This the biggest worry for me as a cricket fan. The depreciating value of our cricket brand which appeals to the masses yet fails to aspire any imagination like it used to before.
 
I forgot to mention the ever 'self righteous' the ever 'job angling in PCB' Nauman Niaz.
 
A good read.

Well done [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION]
 
Great stuff from an intelligent admirer of the game.
 
[MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION] You have been on PP for such a long time I just want to ask who were the players that were hyped to the moon previously on PP like Umar Akmal, Sohaib Maqsood and Babar Azam now.

Just wanted to know which players the posters felt had genuine talent but they could not fulfill it.
 
[MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION] You have been on PP for such a long time I just want to ask who were the players that were hyped to the moon previously on PP like Umar Akmal, Sohaib Maqsood and Babar Azam now.

Just wanted to know which players the posters felt had genuine talent but they could not fulfill it.

These weren't players I particularly thought much of but posters went crazy over them. Off the top of my head:

Imran Nazir - Had the most hype. Probably the most hyped outside of the usual suspects
Shahid Yousaf - Was highly touted from the U15 world cup on wards.
Saeed Bin Nasir - Due to his domestic stats
Afridi - for obvious reasons
Malik - as above
Amir
Muhammad Sami
Kaneria
Abdul Qadir's son
Ajmal - Leg spinning all-rounder that was ear marked as a great. Might have his name wrong
Salman Butt
Irfan Fazil - Decent, erratic quick. He had pace
Muhammad Zahid - Not hyped but spoken about nostalgically to mythical proportions
Huamayan Farhat - Wild sloggin wicket keeper
Imran Farhat and Faisal Iqbal - Initially had a lot of hype but that soon went
Yasir Hameed - People were calling him a future ATG after his debut

There are probably more but I can't recall

Players that weren't touted and rubbished:

YK - Was called a product of nepotism first, then IQuit
Asif - Labelled a trundler
Muhammad Wasim - Decent bat but fans never took him to heart
 
[MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION] You have been on PP for such a long time I just want to ask who were the players that were hyped to the moon previously on PP like Umar Akmal, Sohaib Maqsood and Babar Azam now.

Just wanted to know which players the posters felt had genuine talent but they could not fulfill it.

Hasan Raza was another.

Very few that were hyped actually made it and even less were quality. In fact, the less touted one's probably made a bigger impact.
 
These weren't players I particularly thought much of but posters went crazy over them. Off the top of my head:

Imran Nazir - Had the most hype. Probably the most hyped outside of the usual suspects
Shahid Yousaf - Was highly touted from the U15 world cup on wards.
Saeed Bin Nasir - Due to his domestic stats
Afridi - for obvious reasons
Malik - as above
Amir
Muhammad Sami
Kaneria
Abdul Qadir's son
Ajmal - Leg spinning all-rounder that was ear marked as a great. Might have his name wrong
Salman Butt
Irfan Fazil - Decent, erratic quick. He had pace
Muhammad Zahid - Not hyped but spoken about nostalgically to mythical proportions
Huamayan Farhat - Wild sloggin wicket keeper
Imran Farhat and Faisal Iqbal - Initially had a lot of hype but that soon went
Yasir Hameed - People were calling him a future ATG after his debut

There are probably more but I can't recall

Players that weren't touted and rubbished:

YK - Was called a product of nepotism first, then IQuit
Asif - Labelled a trundler
Muhammad Wasim - Decent bat but fans never took him to heart

Hasan Raza was another.

Very few that were hyped actually made it and even less were quality. In fact, the less touted one's probably made a bigger impact.

Thanks a lot...:)
 
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