Mickey Arthur has filled the limited overs team with accumulators - Who's responsible?

[Hawkeye]

Sarfraz
Malik
Nawaz
Imad

...what's going on? And why is he not keen on picking hitters?

It even shows in his poor Karachi Kings selection that continues to face humiliation.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

I agree with your sentiment, his biggest issue is not forcing Sarfraz to bat higher, but its not like we have had any reliable hitters in the middle order?

Before Talat emerged, umar akmal was still probably the best and that says it all.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Also Malik's strike rate since 2015 has been in the 90s. Sarfraz hovers around the mid 80s, thats all a massive improvment to where we were under Misbah

still no good enough but the progress is there and a title as well

Hell even Babar is fast compared to that stage of our odi cricket

 

[Hawkeye]

Also Malik's strike rate since 2015 has been in the 90s. Sarfraz hovers around the mid 80s, thats all a massive improvment to where we were under Misbah

still no good enough but the progress is there and a title as well

Hell even Babar is fast compared to that stage of our odi cricket

In ODIs Babar is decent.

In T20s our condition is woeful. Kami is currently our best hitter there and that's a shame, no alternative.

But it's foolish to continue to play and love other accumulators. Heck he even brought back Shehzad.

Hussain and Farhan are probably your best chances, those who are decent accelerators against pace.

 

[Rayyman]

In ODIs Babar is decent.

In T20s our condition is woeful. Kami is currently our best hitter there and that's a shame, no alternative.

But it's foolish to continue to play and love other accumulators.

Hussain and Farhan are probably your best chances, those who are decent accelerators against pace.

Faheem and Hasan Ali are good middle-order hitters, Imad is okay as well.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

In ODIs Babar is decent.

In T20s our condition is woeful. Kami is currently our best hitter there and that's a shame, no alternative.

But it's foolish to continue to play and love other accumulators. Heck he even brought back Shehzad.

Hussain and Farhan are probably your best chances, those who are decent accelerators against pace.

I agree the t20 batting is a disaster wating to happen but at least i see a coach who has slowly been making changes ( too slowly but still) and is resisting the urge to go back to failures to the same extent as past regimes. He has has been fazing out Professor, clearly doesnt want Just Give me 3 Chances Akmal.

While he should get rid of Malik as well imo considering he wont do much in England 2019, at least Malik has largely been really good and unselfish for the past 3 years

 

[MenInG]

Basically Bring Kami Back. /Thread

 

[Itachi]

Babar will lose many games for Pakistan.

He'll create pressure by not being able to up the tempo and hence others will get back to pavilion. He'll have a decent average but it'll be a very misleading one.

 

[Pakpak]

Basically Bring Kami Back. /Thread

Touche Despite the fact this guy has failed every single time he has been brought back

 

[Greenstorm]

Mickey is removing oldies from Misbah-Azhar era one by one. With still another PSL to go before WC 2019, I am hopefull that we will have a young squad with almost no TTFs.

 

[Markhor]

The OP has answered his own question in the thread title.

We made a mistake of "not changing a winning combination" in NZ because the CT triumph and SL whitewash papered over the cracks.

However Hafeez was eased out during the series and Azhar was dropped whilst Arthur has namechecked Hussain Talat during this PSL so clearly he's identified a lack of dynamism in the batting.

 

[Fahdi]

Well the selectors haven't done a great job. No dynamic opener was selected to partner Fakhar because apparently we need a solid player to partner Fakhar.

How many dynamic batsmen were selected for the middle order? The only replacement was Haris Sohail who I am a big supporter of but he isn't exactly a dasher( I want him as opener though, plays fast bowling at a good rate).

 

[Hasan123]

Talat will make our line up mode dynamic. I hope Mickey dofches the oldies holding our batting up.

 

[Crickli]

Nawaz and imad aren't playing rn,sarfi is captain.
Zaman
Farhan/akmal
Babar
Haris
Talat
Shadab
Faheem
Sarfi
Hassan
Amir
Shaheen
Is a pretty good team.

 

[DRsohail]

So you need Kamran......but yes he has to be bold and kick Shoaib and hafiz out.Babar is ok.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Basically Bring Kami Back. /Thread

Sadly this TTF despite being tainted with spot-fixing rumours has still been the only Pakistani batsman in the PSL to consistently hit match-winning knocks. His S/R is far and away above the current batters in the national side.

If we can't pick him, we should at least be looking at the batsmen who show a similar attitude. I mean, whose idea was it to pick players like Asad Shafiq and Mohammed Rizwan for a T20 side?

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Honestly, we should all be praying Farhan scores a 100 or at least a 50 in the final so he can be picked instead. For all the good ISU have done, not giving a Farhan a run as an opener earlier was a travesty, especially for the sake of shoe horning Misbah into the side.

There is no guarantee that he will succeed but why should we keep trying certified failures who are close to 40 years old and awful in the field.


We finally let go of the obsession of selecting Tanvir and Riaz, we have been weaning off Professor, and results have improved. Lets not take a step back

 

[reversehook]

After this PSL3, you have talat and asif ali in the mix.... it should spice up things, and give them new ways to produce a playing 11...

 

[Sayed]

I would rather go with this playing 11 in LOI's, considering next world cup.
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Sarfaraz
Hussain Talat
Malik
Shadab / Imad
Faheem
Amir
Hasan
Shinwari / Shaheen / Junaid

Bench: Farhan, Amir Yameen, Umar Amin

 

[ads101]

Started to feel Mickey is a really overrated coach. Makes very questionable decisions for example no 2nd spinner vs SL. Continually underforms with Karachi despite them often having the strongest squad.

I look at Dean and he seems to do much better with IU, better talent picked, better tactics. What's more am impressed how IU fixed their issues early on like they have and transformed themselves.

We won't drop Mickey obviously after a Champions Trophy win, but I think that's more to do with Sarfraz (who lifts his own team pretty much every PSL) and Azhar Mahmood who did a great job with the bowlers.

Also extremely slow to play the talent/youth he's provided, and then gets played for including them when he finally does. Example, Fakhar. Got praised for including him yet took his time to drop Shehzad and Azhar for him. It's a similar story to not picking the 2nd spinner vs SL, he had it in the squad but did not use it.

In addition though not necessarily entirely his fault (or even mostly), why have certain cricketers allowed to put on weight during his tenure. i.e. Imad, Sarfraz main culprits. Really irks me that cricketers become worse once they enter international cricket, when they should have better access nutritionists, diet plans, better exercise equipment/physios etc.

 

[Rathore]

i m surprised that no one mentioning asif ali. he should be in our team, powerful hitter down the order we always lacking after razzaq

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

i m surprised that no one mentioning asif ali. he should be in our team, powerful hitter down the order we always lacking after razzaq

I thought Saad Nasim looked a decent hitter as well, although not having seen him that much it's based on limited knowledge. But he looked a powerful striker of the ball in the few innings I saw.

 

[Khan12]

I thought Saad Nasim looked a decent hitter as well, although not having seen him that much it's based on limited knowledge. But he looked a powerful striker of the ball in the few innings I saw.

He Is awful against pace. Plus a rubbish Batsmen.

 

[Justcrazy]

Fakhar
babaar
Harris
Sarfaraz
Talat
Malik
Umar Amin
shadab
Faheem
aamir
hassan

 

[MMHS]

Arthur doesn't select squad, neither Chief Selector/Scout reports to him - so, he shouldn't be held responsible for the squad selection. At least, he didn't select a squad that forces either Azhar or Imam to partner Zaman. May be, he has say on the playing XI - that's on tour; as host, often CS selects the 13 with hardly any option of squad rotation.

In every other sports, it's the head coach (In soccer they call Manager), who's responsible for the squad and starting XI (& Bench), while Chief Scout, A/Youth Team Managers and Director of Academy reports to Manager/HC. Cricket is an obsolete traditional British game which still is holding on to these old thoughts, which is basically authority to CS, without accountability.

 

[Bilal7]

3) Babar
4) Haris
5) Sarfaraz
6) Malik/Talat

Let's play this middle-order and start scoring 270-280 consistently. That is all we need with out fantastic bowling attack. Besides, if Fakhar and/or Fahim have their day, they'll give us a nice boost.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

I thought Saad Nasim looked a decent hitter as well, although not having seen him that much it's based on limited knowledge. But he looked a powerful striker of the ball in the few innings I saw.

Babar Azam is a better hitter against pace in comparison to Nasim. He showed that when he played for Pak and in the champions league for Lahore lions, hasn’t improved much since

 

[Sayed]

3) Babar
4) Haris
5) Sarfaraz
6) Malik/Talat

Let's play this middle-order and start scoring 270-280 consistently. That is all we need with out fantastic bowling attack. Besides, if Fakhar and/or Fahim have their day, they'll give us a nice boost.

Your 3,4,5,6
All are almost accumulators, that's why one need to open with Fakhar, and we need one pinch hitter at 6 and 7.
Sarfaraz can rotate the strike in the middle overs, while both Babar and Haris has the ability to anchor the inning and see off the initial phase.

 

[babajee]

Let’s see what he does. He’s got quite a few options in front of him.

 

[boomboom6]

Time is ripe to draft in Hussain Talat and Asif Ali in LOI squads.