Misbah-ul-Haq cannot build a Test team without answering these questions

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Misbah-ul-Haq has been the Pakistan Head Coach and Chief Selector for a year now. He has won 2 home Tests and drawn another, and he has lost 3 away Tests.

Let me be honest: he is not my cup of tea but he is doing fine as the Head Coach. My concerns relate to how he is performing as the Chief Selector, and in particular his failure to address the key questions. To be quite frank, I don't think he even recognises those questions, let alone tries to answer them.

Test cricket now consists of a rolling 2 year cycle of World Test Championships. Apart from the Ashes, nothing else matters.

The need to build a stable team which will have continuity for the next half-decade is now all-important. No team can afford the type of instability and failure that was caused by senior players like Misbah and Younis retiring together - and the same applies to senior players deteriorating together.

Consider the case of Pakistan's batting. When Misbah replaced Mickey Arthur, it consisted at that time of:

Imam-ul-Haq, aged 23 and yet to establish himself.
Shan Masood, aged 29 and just starting to establish himself.
Azhar Ali, aged 34 and in clear decline.
Babar Azam, aged 24 and in supreme touch.
Asad Shafiq, aged 33 and having remained mediocre since becoming a senior batsman.
Haris Sohail, aged 30 and struggling outside Asia.

The first question here is "HOW DO YOU BUILD A STABLE BATTING LINE-UP?"

I would argue that you need to replace one of the two failing 30-something veterans - either Azhar Ali or Asad Shafiq. And you need to replace him with a player from a younger generation. Take your pick between Sami Aslam, Imran Butt or Zeeshan Malik - they are all in their mid-twenties, all scored lots of domestic runs and ensure that you won't face a situation with elderly batsmen deteriorating or retiring together.

But that is not how Misbah thinks - he always plumps for "experience" and so now 18 months after the last Arthur/Inzamam team the opening batsmen are:

Shan Masood, now almost 31 and doing well.
Abid Ali, almost 33 and a Test rookie.

I understand Misbah's thinking, but he is wrong. Even if Abid Ali was performing, he leaves you with two openers who will be 34 and 35 years old at the end of just the second World Test Championship. They would need to be replaced together and the cycle of instability would continue. Was it worth choosing a geriatric rookie?

Sami Aslam was Pakistan's top batsman on the 2016 tour of England - he averaged 55.66 compared to Misbah's 40.28. Misbah thinks that investing in older players like Abid Ali gives him "experience" but the reality is that in adding the likes of Abid Ali instead of Sami Aslam, Kashif Bhatti instead of Zafar Gohar and Imran Khan instead of Ehsan Adil he just fills the team with ageing unestablished players and prevents himself from having a stable core of 20-something players in his team. Fawad Alam's place in the squad has a similar impact.

Extreme youth is as much of a self-inflicted wound in this regard as extreme age is. Pakistan has too many very young bowlers, combined with very old ones like Imran and Sohail, and the entire twenty-something cohort of the likes of Zafar Gohar, Sajid Khan, Ehsan Adil and Sameen Gul is ignored.

The foundation of any sports team is players aged 23-29. You can pick one or two older players so long as you replace them year by year with one or two very young ones.

But you can't build a stable team entirely consisting of guys aged over 30 and under 22. There is no foundation, no core, no stability.

The same applies to the bowling - the question should be "HOW DO I BUILD A STABLE BOWLING UNIT FOR THE NEXT HALF-DECADE?"

There are several major problems here.

1. Mohammad Abbas is short on pace and may have limited future utility.
2. Shaheen and Naseem are very promising, but can you afford for your two best bowlers to be so young? Can you pick them together?
3. Yasir Shah remains a better bowler than Shadab Khan but he's in his mid-30's and he can no longer win you Tests even on a dry wicket like Manchester in the fourth innings. There is no top young specialist leggie coming through, but Shadab Khan is a young leg-spinning all-rounder and is probably a better investment. And there are two other types of spinner in their mid-20's who can bat - Zafar Gohar and Sajid Khan.
4. Imran Khan and Sohail Khan are Misbah favourites but are both slow, unfit and past their peak. Is it really worth picking them for squads ahead of Ehsan Adil or Sameen Gul?

The Head Coach's job is to pick a team for today. But the Chief Selector needs to build and develop a long-term squad with a stable core - and Misbah has done the precise opposite. But to be fair to him, the two jobs combine priorities which are not easily reconciled.

Pakistan will never have a tour with the luxury of this one - taking 29 players to England for 8 weeks.

This was the chance to blend the likes of Zeeshan Malik, Rohail Nazir, Zafar Gohar and Sajid Khan in with the core Test team to build a solid, stable squad.

Instead their positions have gone to men in their 30s who do the same job, but offer no long-term anything. Abid Ali. Sarfraz Ahmed. Kashif Bhatti. Iftikhar Ahmed. And Imran Khan and Sohail Khan and Fawad Alam.

So here are my simple questions to help Misbah to design a Test squad.

1. Which 4 batsmen are your core batsmen under 30 whom you can assume will still be in the team in 2025? Babar Azam and ?Imam. ?Sami Aslam?

2. Who is your overage batsman aged 32+ whom you will forcibly retire after one bad series? You can have Azhar or Shafiq or Abid - but only one of them.

3. Who is your veteran batsman aged 30-32 whom you wish to keep? Presumably Shan Masood, or you could have Haris Sohail. But not both.

4. What is the balance of your attack? You need 5 bowlers, but 3 have to be able to bat, of whom 2 need to bat well. This suggests that Shadab Khan and Zafar Gohar will be required, which suggests that Yasir Shah is on shaky ground.

5. Who are your top fast bowlers? Clearly Naseem Shah and Shaheen Shah Afridi. But they are aged ?19 and 20 - does this mean that you need to prioritise the reintegration of Ehsan Adil and Sameen Gul as senior but not geriatric team-mates to bowl the long overs to keep the youngsters fresh?

6. How do you create what you don't have? The desperate need is for a fast-bowling all-rounder at Number 8. But Faheem Ashraf isn't batting well enough, Amir Yamin is too old and Amad Butt isn't good enough with bat and ball. But you can't do without this role - you need to identify 2 guys and build up their batting and bowling with intensive coaching and total immersion with the Test squad.

Misbah's approach has been to combine veterans with rookies and ignore the balance of the squad or the stability of its core. But he has lost every away Test that he has played - just as he used to do as the captain.

Veterans and Kids only.
Veteran batsmen who never score runs, leaving 3 Number 11s to score the runs that the specialist batsmen cannot.
A bowling attack with no member aged between 21 and 29.
An army of back-up players on the wrong side of 30.

This is a highly unstable mix. And it is enfeebling what should be a really good team.
 
But what is wrong in picking a veteran like Asad Shafiq, who is as good as Ben Stokes?
 
The mentality is that if you pick your young guys in their mid 20s, your whole team becomes inexperienced. Your Abid Ali, and Sohail Khans etc have enough first class experience and therefore you get a balanced side with youth and experience.

It’s embarrassing when 40+ year olds are still playing cricket and not wanting to retire for the benefit of the team. Cook, Clarke, De Villiers all retired relatively early in their careers as they saw their decline continuing. In Pakistan retirement would mean they are unemployed and would struggle to find food for their plates.
 
Pak batting is always weaker than bowling, so why the heck would you shore up bowling by adding 5th bowler and reduce no. of batsmen....

I can understand if it was a all rounder like Azhar Mahmood etc but I really can't figure out this logic, even though Shadab batted better than a lot of batsmen.
 
I agree with junaid on one thing There are two many players on the wrong side of 30 who have been picked but have no utility in this series or going forward over the next 5 yrs so why were they picked?

Why have the likes of sohail, imran khan etc been brought back at the twighlight of their career?

Why are the likes of shafiq in the still and why have abid and fawad been brought in 6 yrs too late

Why are there no 24 yr old young batsmen or bowlers with a solid 3 yrs fc domestic experience in the team waiting to come in?

The whole backup to the eleven is a disaster who realisticay have no utility going forward
 
But what is wrong in picking a veteran like Asad Shafiq, who is as good as Ben Stokes?

Buttler outscored Rizwan. So Buttler is better than Rizwan if you judge off 1 game to back up your points.
No offence, but what about the substance of my OP?

Can you develop a stable team based upon non-performing seniors and kids, but without a core of guys aged 23-29?

And aren’t the jobs of Head Coach and Chief Selector incompatible, given that the Head Coach needs a team for today while a Chief Selector’s job is to build a unit for the next 5 years?
 
Why dont we take risks with team selection is my main question.
Misbah has lost his last 8 Tests in SENA anyway, and his career record as captain and coach reads:

Tests in SENA: 15
Tests with Azhar and Shafiq: 15
Wins: 2
Draws: 0
Defeats: 13

So what’s the risk in not picking Azhar and Shafiq?

It’s like in the Inbetweeners when Simon can’t find the courage to tell Carli how he feels about her. His mate Jay replies “Oh yeah, don’t tell her. Maybe she still won’t go out with you”.
 
Abdullah Shafique in for Azhar.

Saud Shakeel in for Shafiq.

I guarantee you these two will average 50+ in test cricket.
 
I agree with junaid on one thing There are two many players on the wrong side of 30 who have been picked but have no utility in this series or going forward over the next 5 yrs so why were they picked?

Why are there no 24 yr old young batsmen or bowlers with a solid 3 yrs fc domestic experience in the team waiting to come in?

The whole backup to the eleven is a disaster who realisticay have no utility going forward
Misbah implies that the older players achieve more in domestic cricket.

But they don’t. Sami Aslam and Imran Butt and Zeeshan Malik scores mountains of domestic runs and were ignored.

And Zafar Gohar, Sajid Khan, Ehsan Adil and Sameen Gul were far better with the ball than Sohail Khan and Imran Khan.
 
I agree in part but I think [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] is too much of a stickler for age numbers and procedures. Things aren't as black and white in the game and you can't just build a team by coming up with an algorithm.

The most important thing is to have an actual plan for the team's future, and as the OP has pointed out there doesn't seem to be any. If there is a plan it doesn't seem to be any good.

What is the idea for the batting department? Babar has established himself as the core of the lineup, and Shan seems to be marked as his deputy if he can fully establish himself. Hope is Abid Ali will solidify his position as well. Even if everything works out the 3 will need another year or two to fully gel. For those 2 years Misbah and Co. want Azhar and Asad, who have been in decline for 3 years, to suddenly start performing as when they were at their peak, In other words they are hoping for a miracle. And after the 2 year period passes in this idealistic scenario Shan and Abid will only have another 2 years left in the tank at best, maybe 3 for Shan. Only then will Azhar and Asad be phased out of the team. The more realistic outcome is probably that Asad and Azhar will continue to average under 20 and 30 (Asad still manages a decent 50 or two) outside Asia and maybe have a good series in easier conditions as long as the attack is nothing more than half decent.

The problem is rooted in the fact that Misbah, out personal bias, refuses to believe that most players go into decline after age 34-35 and many are done by 36. Hence the notion that two very fit guys cannot find form again and play until they are 37-38 is ridiculous to him.

On the bowling front there again doesn't seem to be any clear thinking. Shaheen and Naseem are our best prospects and they are being backed, which is great. But it's hard to understand the thinking behind the other selections. Imran Khan keeps getting selected despite doing nothing on the international stage nor in domestic cricket. Sohail Khan came back somehow despite knowing that he can't last the full test match. If they picked Ehsan Adil one could understand as he had a good season and provides that extra height and bounce factor, if they picked Sameen Gul again one could understand since he was a top performer in the last season. Mind you I don't rate either Sameen or Ehsan very highly, both are decent to average in my opinion but their selection would make some sense at least. Who do you plan to rotate Shaheen and Naseem with since they both need to be looked after? Sohail can only play as 4th seamer given his fitness and then there is Imran Khan, Hasnain and Sinwari. To get selected as a fast bowler you either needed to have played under Misbah or you'll be picked purely on look and feel by Waqar, who only seems to rate nippy 20 something year olds.
 
Misbah implies that the older players achieve more in domestic cricket.

But they don’t. Sami Aslam and Imran Butt and Zeeshan Malik scores mountains of domestic runs and were ignored.

And Zafar Gohar, Sajid Khan, Ehsan Adil and Sameen Gul were far better with the ball than Sohail Khan and Imran Khan.

its true some domsestic experience is needed but you cant be bringing 35 yr olds back in the team Its too late Why arent they given chances 10 yrs back?

Whats the point 35yr olds on the bench When people would rather see 25 yr olds being next in line

Why arent 25 yr olds paticularly batsmen being inducted into this team to freshen things up and keep everyone on their toes?
 
its true some domsestic experience is needed but you cant be bringing 35 yr olds back in the team Its too late Why arent they given chances 10 yrs back?

Whats the point 35yr olds on the bench When people would rather see 25 yr olds being next in line

Why arent 25 yr olds paticularly batsmen being inducted into this team to freshen things up and keep everyone on their toes?

Imagine if Sami Aslam had been recalled rather than Abid Ali. He’s already played 13 Tests. When Shan Masood is finished in 3 years - 20 Tests from now - Sami Aslam would be a veteran of 33 Tests.

Instead Shan and Abid will age and retire together, and two rookies will have to open the batting.
 
I agree in part but I think [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] is too much of a stickler for age numbers and procedures. Things aren't as black and white in the game and you can't just build a team by coming up with an algorithm.

The most important thing is to have an actual plan for the team's future, and as the OP has pointed out there doesn't seem to be any. If there is a plan it doesn't seem to be any good.

What is the idea for the batting department? Babar has established himself as the core of the lineup, and Shan seems to be marked as his deputy if he can fully establish himself. Hope is Abid Ali will solidify his position as well. Even if everything works out the 3 will need another year or two to fully gel. For those 2 years Misbah and Co. want Azhar and Asad, who have been in decline for 3 years, to suddenly start performing as when they were at their peak, In other words they are hoping for a miracle. And after the 2 year period passes in this idealistic scenario Shan and Abid will only have another 2 years left in the tank at best, maybe 3 for Shan. Only then will Azhar and Asad be phased out of the team. The more realistic outcome is probably that Asad and Azhar will continue to average under 20 and 30 (Asad still manages a decent 50 or two) outside Asia and maybe have a good series in easier conditions as long as the attack is nothing more than half decent.

The problem is rooted in the fact that Misbah, out personal bias, refuses to believe that most players go into decline after age 34-35 and many are done by 36. Hence the notion that two very fit guys cannot find form again and play until they are 37-38 is ridiculous to him.

On the bowling front there again doesn't seem to be any clear thinking. Shaheen and Naseem are our best prospects and they are being backed, which is great. But it's hard to understand the thinking behind the other selections. Imran Khan keeps getting selected despite doing nothing on the international stage nor in domestic cricket. Sohail Khan came back somehow despite knowing that he can't last the full test match. If they picked Ehsan Adil one could understand as he had a good season and provides that extra height and bounce factor, if they picked Sameen Gul again one could understand since he was a top performer in the last season. Mind you I don't rate either Sameen or Ehsan very highly, both are decent to average in my opinion but their selection would make some sense at least. Who do you plan to rotate Shaheen and Naseem with since they both need to be looked after? Sohail can only play as 4th seamer given his fitness and then there is Imran Khan, Hasnain and Sinwari. To get selected as a fast bowler you either needed to have played under Misbah or you'll be picked purely on look and feel by Waqar, who only seems to rate nippy 20 something year olds.

True misbah is blind to the fact that at 35-36 most players are done They should be fazed out at this age not playing on

History shows this Reflexes limbs eyesight all start to slowly recede and degrade post 30

Wasim wasqar inzy miandsd inzy yousuf etc were all pretty much finished at this age or on the last legs

The likes of azhar and shafiq are showing this They should out about particularly because they arent making any runs now and havent for a while

Why bring back imran khan and sohail at this age when they wont be in the team going forward

Your right Abid and masood have max a 3 good years theyre next in line You cant play them and azhar n shafiq in the same team You already have 2 batsmen in team not contributing In 3 years it ll be 4 of the 5

There should be a good continuity of middle young players coming in and oldies being fased out so quality isnt compromised

Keeping a lot of players past their prime means results will suffer

The way misbah is going hes setting up this team for failure upon failure with too many players past their best not contributing and dragging the team down
 
No offence, but what about the substance of my OP?

Can you develop a stable team based upon non-performing seniors and kids, but without a core of guys aged 23-29?

And aren’t the jobs of Head Coach and Chief Selector incompatible, given that the Head Coach needs a team for today while a Chief Selector’s job is to build a unit for the next 5 years?

No issues. You have very valid points in the OP. Precisely, they should have dropped both Azhar and Asad a couple of year ago but rather they made Azhar captain.

Time is running away for Pakistan to take immediate decision, they should drop Asad Shafiq now. Azhar Ali is captain so they can't drop him straightaway. Give him this series and then drop him as well. I would rather want my youngster failing than 34 years old failing.

Precisely, Haris Sohail should have batted at 5 but he dropped out due to COVID fears.

Shan
Aslam
---------( need an aggressive batter)
Babar(c)
Haris
Rizwan (wkt)
 
No issues. You have very valid points in the OP. Precisely, they should have dropped both Azhar and Asad a couple of year ago but rather they made Azhar captain.

Time is running away for Pakistan to take immediate decision, they should drop Asad Shafiq now. Azhar Ali is captain so they can't drop him straightaway. Give him this series and then drop him as well. I would rather want my youngster failing than 34 years old failing.

Precisely, Haris Sohail should have batted at 5 but he dropped out due to COVID fears.

Shan
Aslam
---------( need an aggressive batter)
Babar(c)
Haris
Rizwan (wkt)

Haider Ali? Zeeshan Malik?

If you’re going to lose, at least do it with kids with future potential!
 
Imam does look a better test bet than Azhar/Asad nowadays, he has an organised ODI game that gives a solid return - he could do the same here, given time.

Haider Ali is another, its very early days yes but him at 6 wouldn't be a bad shout in the near future.
 
No offence, but what about the substance of my OP?

Can you develop a stable team based upon non-performing seniors and kids, but without a core of guys aged 23-29?

And aren’t the jobs of Head Coach and Chief Selector incompatible, given that the Head Coach needs a team for today while a Chief Selector’s job is to build a unit for the next 5 years?

I would never trust Misbah to develop a good test team. But no offense here but I would never trust you to build one as you back average players like Shadab,Faheem,Umar Akmal, and Ehsan Adil.
 
Misbah-ul-Haq has been the Pakistan Head Coach and Chief Selector for a year now. He has won 2 home Tests and drawn another, and he has lost 3 away Tests.

Let me be honest: he is not my cup of tea but he is doing fine as the Head Coach. My concerns relate to how he is performing as the Chief Selector, and in particular his failure to address the key questions. To be quite frank, I don't think he even recognises those questions, let alone tries to answer them.

Test cricket now consists of a rolling 2 year cycle of World Test Championships. Apart from the Ashes, nothing else matters.

The need to build a stable team which will have continuity for the next half-decade is now all-important. No team can afford the type of instability and failure that was caused by senior players like Misbah and Younis retiring together - and the same applies to senior players deteriorating together.

Consider the case of Pakistan's batting. When Misbah replaced Mickey Arthur, it consisted at that time of:

Imam-ul-Haq, aged 23 and yet to establish himself.
Shan Masood, aged 29 and just starting to establish himself.
Azhar Ali, aged 34 and in clear decline.
Babar Azam, aged 24 and in supreme touch.
Asad Shafiq, aged 33 and having remained mediocre since becoming a senior batsman.
Haris Sohail, aged 30 and struggling outside Asia.

The first question here is "HOW DO YOU BUILD A STABLE BATTING LINE-UP?"

I would argue that you need to replace one of the two failing 30-something veterans - either Azhar Ali or Asad Shafiq. And you need to replace him with a player from a younger generation. Take your pick between Sami Aslam, Imran Butt or Zeeshan Malik - they are all in their mid-twenties, all scored lots of domestic runs and ensure that you won't face a situation with elderly batsmen deteriorating or retiring together.

But that is not how Misbah thinks - he always plumps for "experience" and so now 18 months after the last Arthur/Inzamam team the opening batsmen are:

Shan Masood, now almost 31 and doing well.
Abid Ali, almost 33 and a Test rookie.

I understand Misbah's thinking, but he is wrong. Even if Abid Ali was performing, he leaves you with two openers who will be 34 and 35 years old at the end of just the second World Test Championship. They would need to be replaced together and the cycle of instability would continue. Was it worth choosing a geriatric rookie?

Sami Aslam was Pakistan's top batsman on the 2016 tour of England - he averaged 55.66 compared to Misbah's 40.28. Misbah thinks that investing in older players like Abid Ali gives him "experience" but the reality is that in adding the likes of Abid Ali instead of Sami Aslam, Kashif Bhatti instead of Zafar Gohar and Imran Khan instead of Ehsan Adil he just fills the team with ageing unestablished players and prevents himself from having a stable core of 20-something players in his team. Fawad Alam's place in the squad has a similar impact.

Extreme youth is as much of a self-inflicted wound in this regard as extreme age is. Pakistan has too many very young bowlers, combined with very old ones like Imran and Sohail, and the entire twenty-something cohort of the likes of Zafar Gohar, Sajid Khan, Ehsan Adil and Sameen Gul is ignored.

The foundation of any sports team is players aged 23-29. You can pick one or two older players so long as you replace them year by year with one or two very young ones.

But you can't build a stable team entirely consisting of guys aged over 30 and under 22. There is no foundation, no core, no stability.

The same applies to the bowling - the question should be "HOW DO I BUILD A STABLE BOWLING UNIT FOR THE NEXT HALF-DECADE?"

There are several major problems here.

1. Mohammad Abbas is short on pace and may have limited future utility.
2. Shaheen and Naseem are very promising, but can you afford for your two best bowlers to be so young? Can you pick them together?
3. Yasir Shah remains a better bowler than Shadab Khan but he's in his mid-30's and he can no longer win you Tests even on a dry wicket like Manchester in the fourth innings. There is no top young specialist leggie coming through, but Shadab Khan is a young leg-spinning all-rounder and is probably a better investment. And there are two other types of spinner in their mid-20's who can bat - Zafar Gohar and Sajid Khan.
4. Imran Khan and Sohail Khan are Misbah favourites but are both slow, unfit and past their peak. Is it really worth picking them for squads ahead of Ehsan Adil or Sameen Gul?

The Head Coach's job is to pick a team for today. But the Chief Selector needs to build and develop a long-term squad with a stable core - and Misbah has done the precise opposite. But to be fair to him, the two jobs combine priorities which are not easily reconciled.

Pakistan will never have a tour with the luxury of this one - taking 29 players to England for 8 weeks.

This was the chance to blend the likes of Zeeshan Malik, Rohail Nazir, Zafar Gohar and Sajid Khan in with the core Test team to build a solid, stable squad.

Instead their positions have gone to men in their 30s who do the same job, but offer no long-term anything. Abid Ali. Sarfraz Ahmed. Kashif Bhatti. Iftikhar Ahmed. And Imran Khan and Sohail Khan and Fawad Alam.

So here are my simple questions to help Misbah to design a Test squad.

1. Which 4 batsmen are your core batsmen under 30 whom you can assume will still be in the team in 2025? Babar Azam and ?Imam. ?Sami Aslam?

2. Who is your overage batsman aged 32+ whom you will forcibly retire after one bad series? You can have Azhar or Shafiq or Abid - but only one of them.

3. Who is your veteran batsman aged 30-32 whom you wish to keep? Presumably Shan Masood, or you could have Haris Sohail. But not both.

4. What is the balance of your attack? You need 5 bowlers, but 3 have to be able to bat, of whom 2 need to bat well. This suggests that Shadab Khan and Zafar Gohar will be required, which suggests that Yasir Shah is on shaky ground.

5. Who are your top fast bowlers? Clearly Naseem Shah and Shaheen Shah Afridi. But they are aged ?19 and 20 - does this mean that you need to prioritise the reintegration of Ehsan Adil and Sameen Gul as senior but not geriatric team-mates to bowl the long overs to keep the youngsters fresh?

6. How do you create what you don't have? The desperate need is for a fast-bowling all-rounder at Number 8. But Faheem Ashraf isn't batting well enough, Amir Yamin is too old and Amad Butt isn't good enough with bat and ball. But you can't do without this role - you need to identify 2 guys and build up their batting and bowling with intensive coaching and total immersion with the Test squad.

Misbah's approach has been to combine veterans with rookies and ignore the balance of the squad or the stability of its core. But he has lost every away Test that he has played - just as he used to do as the captain.

Veterans and Kids only.
Veteran batsmen who never score runs, leaving 3 Number 11s to score the runs that the specialist batsmen cannot.
A bowling attack with no member aged between 21 and 29.
An army of back-up players on the wrong side of 30.

This is a highly unstable mix. And it is enfeebling what should be a really good team.

Or you could just choose the best 11 players in the country and win, not caring if all of them are 45 years of age.

You don't choose age first and then start picking players.
 
My ideal test 11:

1. Shan (c)
2. Abid
3. Usman Saluhuddin
4. Babar Azam
5. Saad Ali
6. Mohammad Rizwan
7. Aamer Yamin
8. Zafar Gohar
9. Mohammad Abbas
10. Ehsan Adil / Yasir Shah depending on conditions
11. Shaheen Afridi / Naseem Shah

This provides a balanced team - all types of bowling, bright, pace etc.
4 players are 30+
6 are 21-29.
1 is a teenager.

What do you think [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]?
 
Or you could just choose the best 11 players in the country and win, not caring if all of them are 45 years of age.

You don't choose age first and then start picking players.
That rarely works. Let’s call it the Lampard-Gerrard Law.

Misbah has always erred in that direction. That’s why as skipper he had such a terrible defeat rate in SENA.

He picks “the best four bowlers” regardless of whether the batting is functioning. Mickey Arthur regretted doing the same thing in the first two Tests in South Africa 18 months ago.

A team has to be balanced in terms of roles. And in modern sport team management tend to use World Cups and their equivalents to develop a team in four year cycles.

Cricket is just the same. With Australia and India effectively already through to the 2021 World Test Championship Final, Pakistan should already be preparing a team for the 2023 Final.

But instead the squad to England is full of old men who don’t achieve much even in domestic cricket. Like Imran and Sohail Khan.
 
My ideal test 11:

1. Shan (c)
2. Abid
3. Usman Saluhuddin
4. Babar Azam
5. Saad Ali
6. Mohammad Rizwan
7. Aamer Yamin
8. Zafar Gohar
9. Mohammad Abbas
10. Ehsan Adil / Yasir Shah depending on conditions
11. Shaheen Afridi / Naseem Shah

This provides a balanced team - all types of bowling, bright, pace etc.
4 players are 30+
6 are 21-29.
1 is a teenager.

What do you think [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]?

Much better, but I’ve a few little comments:

1. Abid Ali is even older than Shan Masood, but Sami Aslam and Zeeshan Malik are much younger and have more recent domestic form.

2. Haider Ali is much younger than Saad Ali and Usman Salahuddin, but outscored both last season.

3. Aamer Yamin would be a 30 year old debutant.
 
The Pakistani system doesn't allow coaches or selectors to work the way you want them to work. There is too much media pressure to select certain individuals and the political interference is known to everyone. Or have you forgotten how guys like Hafeez, Malik kept returning to the side? Pak got thrashed by Australia and Misbah was forced by the pressure of the media to pick the seniors to save his own job.

Even if you pick a youngster and he fails to deliver in his first serie you won't see him again for at the least 4-5 years. Everyone will criticize the selector and ask him why he didn't allow him to establish in domestic first. That's the Pakistani system.

If Mickey could not do it being a modern and outspoken coach then what makes you think a puppet and introvert type like Misbah will be able to revolutionize the team?

Nothing will happen even if we lose 3-0 to England. Pak will recover against Zimbabwe and everyone will forget these past few games. Things will remain the way they are.
 
Rohail nazir was dropped from the squad for amir and he was a really good potential batsman
Sami aslam should be opening but obviously the team seen something in masood and its paid off
Usman salahudeen is the asim kamal of his generation
Fawad Alam is even older than azhar ali
Ahmed Shehzad and umar akmal are out of the picture
Imran and salman butt can't get into the squad

Umar amin has become a t20 specialist
Umar siddiq has been ignored

The only replacements I can foresee is rohail and haider coming into the picture at some stage

As for spinners kashif bhatti might be given a chance in Southampton
Pacers hasnain is an obvious selection
We also have Amad butt and ehsan adil to look forward to and maybe even Ahmad jamal
Arshad iqbal and akif javed are next in line for the shadow understudys too
 
On the bowling front there again doesn't seem to be any clear thinking. Shaheen and Naseem are our best prospects and they are being backed, which is great. But it's hard to understand the thinking behind the other selections. Imran Khan keeps getting selected despite doing nothing on the international stage nor in domestic cricket. Sohail Khan came back somehow despite knowing that he can't last the full test match. If they picked Ehsan Adil one could understand as he had a good season and provides that extra height and bounce factor, if they picked Sameen Gul again one could understand since he was a top performer in the last season. Mind you I don't rate either Sameen or Ehsan very highly, both are decent to average in my opinion but their selection would make some sense at least. Who do you plan to rotate Shaheen and Naseem with since they both need to be looked after? Sohail can only play as 4th seamer given his fitness and then there is Imran Khan, Hasnain and Sinwari. To get selected as a fast bowler you either needed to have played under Misbah or you'll be picked purely on look and feel by Waqar, who only seems to rate nippy 20 something year olds.

Fully agreed, no one seems to see the real problem over here. If you do not rotate Shaheen and Naseem with proper support then not only you are destroying their confidence, affecting their overall development, you are also overworking them as well. Hence Amir version 2 scenario occurs again.
 
Much better, but I’ve a few little comments:

1. Abid Ali is even older than Shan Masood, but Sami Aslam and Zeeshan Malik are much younger and have more recent domestic form.

2. Haider Ali is much younger than Saad Ali and Usman Salahuddin, but outscored both last season.

3. Aamer Yamin would be a 30 year old debutant.
True but I'm not for chopping and changing. I'd rather back the openers and form a solid partnership.

Haider is great but I'd want him to get a few years experience in FC cricket.

I know, but Faheem is so woeful that Aamer Yamin even if he's 30 is a much better option.
 
Abdullah Shafique in for Azhar.

Saud Shakeel in for Shafiq.

I guarantee you these two will average 50+ in test cricket.

Ably supported by your track record with these predictions, sure.
 
Misbah will never be truly successful as Pakistan coach as long as he sticks with his golden boys, namely Azhar and Asad. Enough times management has trusted them and enough times they have failed, and the sooner Misbah accepts this, the sooner we can progress our Test side.
 
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