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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">According to reports Misbah will lead Pakistan for the 3rd Test match in Sydney. No decision made yet on retirement <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AUSvPAK?src=hash">#AUSvPAK</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/815487158798716928">January 1, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Would have been extremely stupid to do that. A whitewash would have been 100% guaranteed.
 
Good decision, he can announce retirement after the match.
Hopefully PCB ll not force him to delay for one reason or another
 
Why make that fuss? You can lead the team even after 2018. PCB is with your side, Who care of the team performance?
 
Good decision, he can announce retirement after the match.
Hopefully PCB ll not force him to delay for one reason or another

I can assure you PCB will not accept his resignation. Both SK, Inzamam and Micky do not have any liabilty of team's performances. They are happy to be among 8-9 across all the formats
 
We are going to lose the match anyway why push rizwan or sharjeel to the deep end , misbah should refire after the sydney test though.
 
How can the team that is two down go in to a third game effectively with 9 guys
 
Playing with less than 11 it seems. Think Misbah is retiring after this game.
 
It's going to be whitewash whether he plays or not. This poor Aussie team has won easily and my own guess is that we will never win a series in Aus because mentally our players are weak.
 
Very disappointing, I thought Misbah would stick to his words and will leave us alone. Nothing to watch for me in Sydney test now, same humiliation , same anger and pain. Thanks to Misbah's captaincy and batting.
 
How can the team that is two down go in to a third game effectively with 9 guys

You're right, lets not count Misbah and YK, they are "non-playing" members of the eleven. Pakistan cricket is a joke, thanks Mr. Sheyryar Khan, continue to enjoy the post as long as NS is in power.
 
lol it was expected. He wanted someone to beg him not to retire with his emotional 3 days to make decision speech but didn't work out but I never thought him man enough to take such honorable decisions. he would love to cling on to the team as long as he could. [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]
true caliber of Misbah the batsman can be seen from his averages in SL,Aus and SA and even England to extent. An ftb batsman that was never good tactically captain and misused his powers in selections. Its good to see his days are slowly coming to an end.
 
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Scg is one of the flattest track and will going to spin later so if somehow Pak bat first they can put Australia into pressure.
 
Would have been extremely stupid to do that. A whitewash would have been 100% guaranteed.

It's 110% guranteed with Misbah playing. I hope for the betterment of our team it's his last match.
 
Wether he plays the last test or not, its upto him but why is he not making formal annoncement, that if he plays 3rd test that would be his last.

So, if he manages to score some runs in final test, will he could continue in test? If thats the case, why act like a drama queen to begin with. If he is still undecided, surely many fan will be hoping he fails, and Pak loses/draws so this episode finally ends.
 
Would have been extremely stupid to do that. A whitewash would have been 100% guaranteed.
So is he going to deliver Pakistan from that whitewash by:

a) scoring 10 runs at his current average of 5 per innings, or

b) sticking to bizarre hyper-defensive fields which transform Yasir Shah from a racehorse into a donkey?
 
I don't understand why some people here are saying the result would have been 2-0 anyways. I think had Pakistan got more contribution from a player who'd have played instead of Misbah in the first test they could have won it (They lost by some 30 runs didn't they?)

An had Pakistan got more contribution from Misbah and YK (or players who'd have played instead of them) they could have saved the 2nd test (they only had to bat for 13 more overs)

The thing is you wouldn't know until it happens. So please don't make assumptions. Pakistan's LOI team is on a 7 match winning streak and it is without YK and Misbah.

Pakistan cricket has no vision, they don't even take big decisions even when things are worst to the core. They wait till it gets even worse, they wait till death and then think again, and even then they still try to stick to old players and resist change. Pathetic.

It's a new year, should have looked at it as a new beginning, should have got Sherjeel and Rizwan (no other options basically) into this test ahead of YK and Misbah, and just move on. 3-0 so be it, atleast you'd have taken a step in the right direction.
 
It's 110% guranteed with Misbah playing. I hope for the betterment of our team it's his last match.

hehe Misbah will save us from whitewash like he did against NZ and SA on their home soils.;-)
 
I hope we win and he does well. He deserves to go out on a high note. :salute
 
So is he going to deliver Pakistan from that whitewash by:

a) scoring 10 runs at his current average of 5 per innings, or

b) sticking to bizarre hyper-defensive fields which transform Yasir Shah from a racehorse into a donkey?

I know it's fashionable to blame Misbah for Yasir's poor bowling and he hasnt handled him well but I said before the series Yasir's bowling is reliant on no bounce as he doesn't turn the ball, I don't remember many balls to right handers that turned even on the 5th day.
 
I don't understand why some people here are saying the result would have been 2-0 anyways. I think had Pakistan got more contribution from a player who'd have played instead of Misbah in the first test they could have won it (They lost by some 30 runs didn't they?)

An had Pakistan got more contribution from Misbah and YK (or players who'd have played instead of them) they could have saved the 2nd test (they only had to bat for 13 more overs)

The thing is you wouldn't know until it happens. So please don't make assumptions. Pakistan's LOI team is on a 7 match winning streak and it is without YK and Misbah.

Pakistan cricket has no vision, they don't even take big decisions even when things are worst to the core. They wait till it gets even worse, they wait till death and then think again, and even then they still try to stick to old players and resist change. Pathetic.

It's a new year, should have looked at it as a new beginning, should have got Sherjeel and Rizwan (no other options basically) into this test ahead of YK and Misbah, and just move on. 3-0 so be it, atleast you'd have taken a step in the right direction.

it's absolutely sickening and sad at the same time that we have some really incompetent people running our cricket. Why do I waste so much time only to see this incompetence on daily basis? Do these people really care about what the fans wants? They must be enjoying their seats and their trip all over the world rather than actually addressing the issues and thinking about future of our cricket.

Names matter in Pakistan cricket not the output. YK will keep playing despite failing in 5 consecutive tests and Misbah will keep getting his farewell tests because there is no accountability. A senior player who cannot perform on away tours like this has no right to picked to boost his average on flat roads. These are sad affairs at the moment in Pakistan cricket. I do not have any hope.
 
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make it 6 , sami , babar and yasir arent doing much either.

at least they are not burden and not forcing selectors captain, they are your choice. If there are better pick them.Misbah and YK are just a burden on the team who have to be picked no matter what.
 
it's absolutely sickening and sad at the same time that we have some really incompetent people running our cricket. Why do I waste so much time only to see this incompetence on daily basis? Do these people really care about what the fans wants? They must be enjoying their seats and their trip all over the world rather than actually addressing the issues and thinking about future of our cricket.

Names matter in Pakistan cricket not the output. YK will keep playing despite failing in 5 consecutive tests and Misbah will keep getting his farewell tests because there is no accountability. A senior player who cannot perform on away tours like this has no right to picked to boost his average on flat roads. These are sad affairs at the moment in Pakistan cricket. I do not have any hope.

You are being too kind to Younis and Misbah. This is how they have performed in major series outside Asia in the last seven years, since they were roughly 35 years old:

Australia 2009-10
Misbah failed in 3 innings out of 4 and had to be dropped.

South Africa 2012-13
Younis failed in 5 innings out of 6
Misbah failed in 5 innings out of 6.

England 2016
Younis failed in 6 innings out of 7.
Misbah failed in 4 innings out of 7.

New Zealand 2016-17
Younis failed in 4 innings out of 4.
Misbah failed in 2 innings out of 2.

Australia 2016-17
Younis failed in 3 innings out of 4.
Misbah failed in 4 innings out of 4.

Both men are very fit, which has led them and assorted other foolish people to think that they had discovered a magic formula to allow men in their forties to survive outside Asia.

But Younis has failed in 18 of his last 21 major innings outside Asia.

And Misbah has failed in 18 out of 23.

Their numbers are catastrophic, but predictable for such old batsmen.
 
You are being too kind to Younis and Misbah. This is how they have performed in major series outside Asia in the last seven years, since they were roughly 35 years old:

Australia 2009-10
Misbah failed in 3 innings out of 4 and had to be dropped.

South Africa 2012-13
Younis failed in 5 innings out of 6
Misbah failed in 5 innings out of 6.

England 2016
Younis failed in 6 innings out of 7.
Misbah failed in 4 innings out of 7.

New Zealand 2016-17
Younis failed in 4 innings out of 4.
Misbah failed in 2 innings out of 2.

Australia 2016-17
Younis failed in 3 innings out of 4.
Misbah failed in 4 innings out of 4.

Both men are very fit, which has led them and assorted other foolish people to think that they had discovered a magic formula to allow men in their forties to survive outside Asia.

But Younis has failed in 18 of his last 21 major innings outside Asia.

And Misbah has failed in 18 out of 23.

Their numbers are catastrophic, but predictable for such old batsmen.
Misbah has always been an ordinary player away from Asia in tests that's why it's funny when people see his single digit scores now and say a career is coming to an end.LOL he had these single digit scores when he traveled Aus last time, he had these single digit scores when he toured SA.

Same for YK. These players if they had any dignity would have retired gracefully after their failures in SA. The time we had after that series and before these tours could have perfectly used to build a strong team ready for this challenge. But they enjoyed since there was no competent enough in Pakistan cricket with such a great insight. Everyone was happy Misbah winning against the likes of SL after being thrashed by SA on their backyard.
 
thank god finally you have realized.

I have always been consistent on that view. I have been talking about yk and misbah leaving before ANZ for well over a year now. For the primary reason, that if they fail and then retire, we can't even say we gained from a learning experience.
Of course there is a difference between a 5 year veteran on his first tour vs a 15 year veteran
 
Why doesn't he just say the 3rd test will be his last? Is he hoping to continue on after it?

probably waiting till result. It might depend on result. He may announce retirement if Pak loses badly but because SCG is said to support Pakistani style he might be positive.
 
Always knew Misbah would depend on ifs and buts and not announce with dignity.
 
He should make no such announcement. The team needs to focus - it does not need a leader who's heart is not in the game etc
 
Lose-lose situation for Misbah.

If he plays without announcing his retirement, people will say he is trying to prolong his career.

If he announces his retirement prior to the game, people will say that he's making the last match about himself and a 'farewell'.

Hopefully he calls it a day after Sydney straight away.
 
I told you guys, this person has never left a team unless forcibly removed or been given a word in the ear. He is not some righteous, angelic figure that he is made out to be.

After this test he needs to be dropped whether he decides to retire or not.
 
lol it was expected. He wanted someone to beg him not to retire with his emotional 3 days to make decision speech but didn't work out but I never thought him man enough to take such honorable decisions. he would love to cling on to the team as long as he could. [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]
true caliber of Misbah the batsman can be seen from his averages in SL,Aus and SA and even England to extent. An ftb batsman that was never good tactically captain and misused his powers in selections. Its good to see his days are slowly coming to an end.

I think, more than technique, it's his age. Even 100 years back top players hardly played Test at 45, many of them retired even from FC Cricket. His technique was never great, but workable in his 20s/30s; but this was bound to happen at some point - he helped it by stressing his career. There are players with poor technique dominating the game, best example can be Smith, but he won't be Smith if he carries till 45; in fact I believe he'll retire before 38 - that's 10 years from now.

I don't buy the idea of PCB's request to stick for few more Series, that forced him to carry on - when I left BD for Canada, they offered me almost double for 1 more year as consultant, just to finish their on going projects - I knew in that way, I'll never be able to immigrate. No way, I could replace that earning in Canada & in BD, one after another opportunity will come, until my PR Visa expires - a person should know his limits & his desire, what he wishes to do.

Misbah knows his limit but his desire was to carry on - got exposed; no one could have stopped him retiring after UK tour, if he wished. Viv played a blasting 60 in his last innings - 6 months before the 1992 WC, but he knew his legacy will be tarnished if he goes to AUS at almost 40; there is not point Viv Richards playing like Sherwin Campbell - he retired all of a sudden & didn't allow anyone to "request" him for one more try. I see lots of harsh words for Misbah including from myself, which he actually deserves now, for that, Misbah allowed people to "request" him.
 
I told you guys, this person has never left a team unless forcibly removed or been a word in the ear. He is not some righteous, angelic figure that he is made out to be.

After this test he needs to be dropped whether he decides to retire or not.

You are right , apart from Imran and Shoiab Akhtar , none left on high.

One should not be allowed to chase personal milestones for the expense of Team.
 
at least they are not burden and not forcing selectors captain, they are your choice. If there are better pick them.Misbah and YK are just a burden on the team who have to be picked no matter what.

they are a burden when they go out in the middle and are as uselss as the other two. I see no difference at all.
 
but in the context of match we are going in with the 6 players only.

not every young player would have failed, but we wont know that, because the two guys still playing are keeping two spots occupied.
 
they are a burden when they go out in the middle and are as uselss as the other two. I see no difference at all.

short term thinking which assumes that all players must be discarded since all players must perform all the time regardless of form, experience, or pedigree.
its not how cricket is played.
 
You are right , apart from Imran and Shoiab Akhtar , none left on high.

One should not be allowed to chase personal milestones for the expense of Team.
Shoaib didn't leave on a high, he was dropped before the SF against India.
 
Shoaib didn't leave on a high, he was dropped before the SF against India.

He had announced before the start of the WC that these matches are going to be his last
 
Lose-lose situation for Misbah.

If he plays without announcing his retirement, people will say he is trying to prolong his career.

If he announces his retirement prior to the game, people will say that he's making the last match about himself and a 'farewell'.

Hopefully he calls it a day after Sydney straight away.

Very much so.

I dont see a good end for Misbah here.

Just like his ODI career, Australia will not be the best end to his Test career either.
 
Very much so.

I dont see a good end for Misbah here.

Just like his ODI career, Australia will not be the best end to his Test career either.

Misbah should have retired after the 2016 Tour of England on a high. Just like Afridi should have retired after the 2011 WC having led us to the SF only a few months after the Spot Fixing Scandal.

Had they done so - both would have been remembered as heroes.

The saying "You either die as a hero or live long enough to become the villian" aptly applies here
 
He had announced before the start of the WC that these matches are going to be his last

As Shoaib Akhtar had a very poor tournament in the 2011 WC - he had a bad ending to his career.

Sadly - my last image of Shoaib Akhtar remains him holding his head in his hands as Kammy drops Ross Taylor before getting slogged by him to all parts of the ground in Pakallele.
 
I think, more than technique, it's his age. Even 100 years back top players hardly played Test at 45, many of them retired even from FC Cricket. His technique was never great, but workable in his 20s/30s; but this was bound to happen at some point - he helped it by stressing his career. There are players with poor technique dominating the game, best example can be Smith, but he won't be Smith if he carries till 45; in fact I believe he'll retire before 38 - that's 10 years from now.

I don't buy the idea of PCB's request to stick for few more Series, that forced him to carry on - when I left BD for Canada, they offered me almost double for 1 more year as consultant, just to finish their on going projects - I knew in that way, I'll never be able to immigrate. No way, I could replace that earning in Canada & in BD, one after another opportunity will come, until my PR Visa expires - a person should know his limits & his desire, what he wishes to do.

Misbah knows his limit but his desire was to carry on - got exposed; no one could have stopped him retiring after UK tour, if he wished. Viv played a blasting 60 in his last innings - 6 months before the 1992 WC, but he knew his legacy will be tarnished if he goes to AUS at almost 40; there is not point Viv Richards playing like Sherwin Campbell - he retired all of a sudden & didn't allow anyone to "request" him for one more try. I see lots of harsh words for Misbah including from myself, which he actually deserves now, for that, Misbah allowed people to "request" him.
imagine YK and Misbah playing last series against SA in 2013, we could have two years of home cricket to groom two players for this tough tour and even if they failed here could have taken a lot of experience for future..

it's shame we gifted 2015 world cup and these tours for farewells. It only happens in Pakistan.
 
As Shoaib Akhtar had a very poor tournament in the 2011 WC - he had a bad ending to his career.

Sadly - my last image of Shoaib Akhtar remains him holding his head in his hands as Kammy drops Ross Taylor before getting slogged by him to all parts of the ground in Pakallele.

pretty flat pitch. He had a wonderful spell and match changing spell against Sri Lanka with his fast and furious yrokers and reverse swing. He didn't look a finished bowler.
 
Omg, ughhh it's so painful to watch him bat, even more painful to see the fields he has been setting for yasir shah.

Does this guy have any integrity to just call it the quits and leave the team?

His mindset has made half the players in the team to be tuk tuk.

When will this pain end?
 
It's going to be whitewash whether he plays or not. This poor Aussie team has won easily and my own guess is that we will never win a series in Aus because mentally our players are weak.

In this series if we somehow drew the melbourne test then I am 100 percent sure we can win Sydney test but now whitewash is all over written on it
 
I don't understand why some people here are saying the result would have been 2-0 anyways. I think had Pakistan got more contribution from a player who'd have played instead of Misbah in the first test they could have won it (They lost by some 30 runs didn't they?)

An had Pakistan got more contribution from Misbah and YK (or players who'd have played instead of them) they could have saved the 2nd test (they only had to bat for 13 more overs)

The thing is you wouldn't know until it happens. So please don't make assumptions. Pakistan's LOI team is on a 7 match winning streak and it is without YK and Misbah.

Pakistan cricket has no vision, they don't even take big decisions even when things are worst to the core. They wait till it gets even worse, they wait till death and then think again, and even then they still try to stick to old players and resist change. Pathetic.

It's a new year, should have looked at it as a new beginning, should have got Sherjeel and Rizwan (no other options basically) into this test ahead of YK and Misbah, and just move on. 3-0 so be it, atleast you'd have taken a step in the right direction.

Cricket is a game of luck with commitment, the first test Aus deserves to win but second test should have been drawn
 
If misbah score in SCG, will he reverse his decision

What decision? Has he announced that SCG is his last Test?

Based on OP, I put it other way - if he doesn't score in SCG, will he give himself another chance to contribute in WI or not?
 
PCB could also do well to learn from India, think why India has become a far more successful team lately.

Sehwag never announced his retirement, but when we understood his time is up, he was shown the door. Same was the case with Harbhajan, Yuvraj singh who was the MOS in WC2011. I'm sure if Yuvraj had been in Pakistan he would have played for another 10 years irrespective of form because a WC Man of the series would be untouchable as per Pakistani logic, just look at Wahab Riaz who still plays because he bowled that spell in the World Cup against Australia. Where is Gautam Gambhir? the man who played crucial knocks in both the World Cups India won? Zaheer Khan, he never retired, he had a few bad series and that is it, shown the door.

No one is no longer untouchable in India, we play people on form and performance. As simple as that.

Selection, Management is not about being emotional and doing nothing, intelligent and strong decisions need to be taken which should yield results.
 
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PCB could also do well to learn from India, think why India has become a far more successful team lately.

Sehwag never announced his retirement, but when we understood his time is up, he was shown the door. Same was the case with Harbhajan, Yuvraj singh who was the MOS in WC2011. I'm sure if Yuvraj had been in Pakistan he would have played for another 10 years irrespective of form because a WC Man of the series would be untouchable as per Pakistani logic, just look at Wahab Riaz who still plays because he bowled that spell in the World Cup against Australia. Where is Gautam Gambhir? the man who played crucial knocks in both the World Cups India won? Zaheer Khan, he never retired, he had a few bad series and that is it, shown the door.

No one is no longer untouchable in India, we play people on form and performance. As simple as that.

Selection, Management is not about being emotional and doing nothing, intelligent and strong decisions need to be taken which should yield results.

When the chairman says that he wants the 42-year-old captain to continue till 2018 then what can you expect?
 
He should have quit now itself.

No point in delaying.

that is the difference between him, and ppl like Younis, afridi... Quitting in the middle of the series...Can quit after the series... Giving up halfway is an act of cowardice and foolishness....I'm sure he has made up his mind to call it a day after the SCG test...
 
Omg, ughhh it's so painful to watch him bat, even more painful to see the fields he has been setting for yasir shah.

Does this guy have any integrity to just call it the quits and leave the team?

His mindset has made half the players in the team to be tuk tuk.

When will this pain end?

Give it a rest with the tuk tuk line. Its not as if we've got a pool of Viv Richards-esque batsmen in domestic cricket playing any different

If you look at domestic cricket, the majority of batsmen are grafters. Tuk tuk is because of the slow, low bounce, underprepared wickets in Pakistan that has created a generation of limited front foot batsmen.

But of course its much simpler to pin the blame on one person.
 
Great, more tactical blunders on the way.

Last game, both Taylor and Warne ripped into his captaincy.
 
Very much so.

I dont see a good end for Misbah here.

Just like his ODI career, Australia will not be the best end to his Test career either.

He deserves to go out on a much better note. His contributions to the Pakistan Cricket Team extend beyond his exploits on the field.
 
Give it a rest with the tuk tuk line. Its not as if we've got a pool of Viv Richards-esque batsmen in domestic cricket playing any different

If you look at domestic cricket, the majority of batsmen are grafters. Tuk tuk is because of the slow, low bounce, underprepared wickets in Pakistan that has created a generation of limited front foot batsmen.

But of course its much simpler to pin the blame on one person.

Really? So according to your logic, umar akmal, afridi, saeed anwar, ijaz Ahmed etc were playing on the same wickets and scored at a rapid pace back in their days, how do you define that?

It's the captains mindset that leads the team in the middle, the players themselves are most likely told
To take their time and score runs, no rush.

Just look at his field placings, to yasir shah mate.
 
The series is lost so Misbah playing the last match wont make a difference, unless he scores a hundred and Pakistan win.

Misbah's tactics on the field have always been average but his calm head has helped the team to remain stable. His time is up now.
 
Really? So according to your logic, umar akmal, afridi, saeed anwar, ijaz Ahmed etc were playing on the same wickets and scored at a rapid pace back in their days, how do you define that?

It's the captains mindset that leads the team in the middle, the players themselves are most likely told
To take their time and score runs, no rush.

Just look at his field placings, to yasir shah mate.

Field placings is a different issue and I've criticised him plenty for that.

Batting is a different matter and Misbah is wrongly blamed for so-called "tuk tuk" culture. Believe it or not, even in the 1999 WC that people laud as an aggressive team had SR issues. We crawled along at 3 RPO more often than not in the first 30 overs. So strike rotation issue is not a new problem.

The FC season takes place during the colder season in Pakistan (Nov-Jan) so overhead conditions already favour seamers. Add that to the green, damp and underprepared surfaces providing extravagant seam movement and you force the batsmen to go into survival mode on Days 1 and 2. These pitches are so slow and have little bounce due to low clay content so batsmen don't develop back foot game. THIS is why we end up with stonewallers and limited front foot batsmen who lack a range of shots.

These conditions reward your Fawads and Khurrams rather than your Babars or Shafiqs. The latter two are good bats but have pretty modest FC averages of less than 40. Pakistani wickets don't reward good strokeplay.

Look at the best FC batsmen in recent years - many are grinders with very few fluent strokemakers. Get domestic wickets with proper pace and bounce where batsmen can get value for their shots and tuk tuk issue will end.
 
"Gentleman" going back on his word. [MENTION=8597]kingusama92[/MENTION]

Only if he refuses to retire after the series.

You wanted him to retire in the middle of the series? :afridi

No matter what he does, he's a gentleman and that won't change. He carries himself with class compared to some of Pakistan's former greats.
 
Only if he refuses to retire after the series.

You wanted him to retire in the middle of the series? :afridi

No matter what he does, he's a gentleman and that won't change. He carries himself with class compared to some of Pakistan's former greats.

Now you're going back on your word just like the "gentleman."
 
No this is plain shameful he will stick with it as long as 2018 as chairman asked.
 
Now you're going back on your word just like the "gentleman."

You said let's see if he sticks to his words. I said he will.

His words weren't, "I will retire before the Sydney test".

If he doesn't retire after this series, he's gone back on his words. I'll 100% agree.
 
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