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Abdullah719

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Bowled very well in this Test against West Indies, it's his first five-fer since the Lord's Test... almost 7 years!

Hoping that he can keep it up and keep improving.
 
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A sad day for Amir haters, excellent performance by him

here's to plenty more in the future!
:amir
 
Bowled really well, hit the lengths and got his reward, which he didn't get in Australia.
 
Hope its a turning point. Granted the conditions have been favourable for swing bowling but you need the bowlers to take advantage.

His control has been good, been more willing to pitch it fuller and has used the new ball better than before.
 
Hope it's the 1st of many. Seems to have found the right lines and lengths to bowl in this innings. Has made full use of the conditions on offer.
 
Hopefully he finds his groove.

Looking forward to see how he fares when the track flattens out.
 
Good bowling but needs to be consistently be 145+ to be world class
 
Congrats to Amir, hopefully he builds on this. How did he celebrate? was he crying?
 
Finally he has worked on hitting the timber because trusting our fielders was a foolish thing.. He just got this 5fer because of 3 timbers.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Bowled very well in this Test against West Indies, it's his first five-fer since the Lord's Test... almost 7 years!

Hoping that he can keep it up and keep improving.
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[MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] upload the video of his 5 wickets and his reaction after them..
 
Rayyman said:
Did a sajda and had a giant smile like this: :D
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And you were smiling like this:

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Abdullah719 said:
Calm celebration, he's a big boy. :afridi

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mashaAllah, am just angry I missed that! ran to the shop to get some chicken donner and chips, by the time I got back I missed Amir's wickets and the bloody rain returned! :mv
 
shaz619 said:
mashaAllah, am just angry I missed that! ran to the shop to get some chicken donner and chips, by the time I got back I missed Amir's wickets and the bloody rain returned! :mv
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:(( Same here.. wasted all day in hope that somehow match will continue... then finally started studying for my exam 40 minutes ago and this happened..
 
4 of those 5 wickets wer bowled, no wonder, otherwise there would be 2/3 drops 🙄🙄

He has been doing double duty, dry up the runs and take wickets. Others(Wahab and Yasir) were pretty expensive. This is very difficult task, he should be bowling more Fuller length and less wider, wickets could have came in 5/7 less overs. But somebody else has to do supporting role. Pakistanis are expecting Amir to do both, support and main hero.

In this innings, he has bowled well but 70/80% of the time he has been little shorter and wider, whenever he has pitched up, he looked threatening and took wickets.

Part of the problem is Amir need somebody of his level on other end, like for Strac there is Hazelwood, Jimmy there is broad, Styen there has been Vernon(now Rabada replaces Styen). For Amir to grow we need another good bowler, it's very hard for single bowler to shine, never really happens at international level.
 
1st of many, many to come. He just needs one year in County to fix his run-up, delivery stride & wrist position; as well as strengthening the body, still I don't think his front foot is stressing enough & right arm is going up enough - he can easily add 3-5KM in average speed & swing the ball further late. No one took that 5th wicket ball seriously because the batsman was Joshep, but I can tell that many top order would be lucky to edge that, almost unplayable ball on target. I feel, PCB brought him too early, may be because of the away tours.
 
MMHS said:
1st of many, many to come. He just needs one year in County to fix his run-up, delivery stride & wrist position; as well as strengthening the body, still I don't think his front foot is stressing enough & right arm is going up enough - he can easily add 3-5KM in average speed & swing the ball further late. No one took that 5th wicket ball seriously because the batsman was Joshep, but I can tell that many top order would be lucky to edge that, almost unplayable ball on target. I feel, PCB brought him too early, may be because of the away tours.
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County spell will certainly improve him. Will certainly try to keep upto with Essexs performances.
 
Hasan123 said:
County spell will certainly improve him. Will certainly try to keep upto with Essexs performances.
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Need to improve his batting - if it's possible for him to take work load like Imran, he is capable of reaching 30 average with bat, may be even 35 in these days. Imran actually was a late boomer - even if I take 2 years in Amir's age, he is just 27 now - at similar age Imran was No. 10 for PAK & changed his entire bowling action, staring from run - up. But, he bowled almost 1000 overs in a County season, batted for 2000+ overs & put equal effort in nets & gym. Amir is far, far, far more talented than Imran, but don't think he has that character, determination, hunger & self-esteem; hardly anyone else ever had.
 
MMHS said:
Need to improve his batting - if it's possible for him to take work load like Imran, he is capable of reaching 30 average with bat, may be even 35 in these days. Imran actually was a late boomer - even if I take 2 years in Amir's age, he is just 27 now - at similar age Imran was No. 10 for PAK & changed his entire bowling action, staring from run - up. But, he bowled almost 1000 overs in a County season, batted for 2000+ overs & put equal effort in nets & gym. Amir is far, far, far more talented than Imran, but don't think he has that character, determination, hunger & self-esteem; hardly anyone else ever had.
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I think he should concentrate on how bowling for now. His batting is at a decent standard anyway. Just needs to add more consistency.

Amir more talanted than Imran? Bold claim.
 
Hasan123 said:
I think he should concentrate on how bowling for now. His batting is at a decent standard anyway. Just needs to add more consistency.

Amir more talanted than Imran? Bold claim.
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Its true Imran had very little natural talent Everything he achieved bowling and batting wise was the result of days and days, weeks and weeks, months and months and years and years of hard work and determination He was the equivalent of younis khan Both had much more talented peers but they performed above and beyond their god given talent
 
Hasan123 said:
I think he should concentrate on how bowling for now. His batting is at a decent standard anyway. Just needs to add more consistency.

Amir more talanted than Imran? Bold claim.
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At 19, Anwar Ali was more talented than Imran, trust me - and you know that I am th biggest fan of Khan. Imran is the burning example of where hard work & self esteem can take one individual. In 1971, Imran made that England team only for his family background - for 3 months, apart from his cousin, everyone let their feelings know to the young man, for every moment. That made the cricketer Imran, anyone else probably would have left cricket & ended up in politics or business - still won't have reached where Imran is today as politician. Some people are born achievers - more than anything, they are blessed with self belief & determination.
 
Zaz said:
Its true Imran had very little natural talent Everything he achieved bowling and batting wise was the result of days and days, weeks and weeks, months and months and years and years of hard work and determination He was the equivalent of younis khan Both had much more talented peers but they performed above and beyond their god given talent
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Imran was a fitness freak. I think he played a part in ensuring Wasim and Waqar looked after there bodies.

I think had he been around for more of Inzis career he would have ensured Inzi didn't have such a lazy attitude towards fitness.
 
MMHS said:
At 19, Anwar Ali was more talented than Imran, trust me - and you know that I am th biggest fan of Khan. Imran is the burning example of where hard work & self esteem can take one individual. In 1971, Imran made that England team only for his family background - for 3 months, apart from his cousin, everyone let their feelings know to the young man, for every moment. That made the cricketer Imran, anyone else probably would have left cricket & ended up in politics or business - still won't have reached where Imran is today as politician. Some people are born achievers - more than anything, they are blessed with self belief & determination.
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Interesting.

Honestly never knew Imran wasn't as talanted. Knew about his work ethic and attitudes towards fitness.
 
Hasan123 said:
Interesting.

Honestly never knew Imran wasn't as talanted. Knew about his work ethic and attitudes towards fitness.
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He was pretty average and there was a moment where he got injured and he returned a completely different player and went from a trundler to a speed demon with exceptional skill, ate a lot of beef :afridi
 
shaz619 said:
He was pretty average and there was a moment where he got injured and he returned a completely different player and went from a trundler to a speed demon with exceptional skill, ate a lot of beef :afridi
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Seen some of Imrans bowling at his peak. I think he could have made most teams at that time as a specialist bowler. Never mind captaincy and as a batsmen.
 
Imran was a trundler because of his extremely poor action not because he lacked talent. No one becomes a genuine pacer unless they are physically capable. Sheer hard work is not enough.
 
Hasan123 said:
Interesting.

Honestly never knew Imran wasn't as talanted. Knew about his work ethic and attitudes towards fitness.
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shaz619 said:
He was pretty average and there was a moment where he got injured and he returned a completely different player and went from a trundler to a speed demon with exceptional skill, ate a lot of beef :afridi
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Imran, when he debuted in the early 70s was a medium pacer who had difficulty controlling the ball and got smacked all over the place - the reason why he's not seen as very talented naturally is because his initial action was rather inept and lent to poor bowling. Indeed, his introduction to international cricket was mainly due to nepotism as he wasn't good enough back then.

However, after his brief ordeal at the pinnacle, he went to study at Oxford as well as playing at Worcestershire. Within the two environments, he sought out several top names (don't remember right now as it's been some time since I read his autobiography) to help him construct a new action that enabled him to become a fast bowler (inspired from watching DK Lillee) and one so excellent that he would go on to have the greatest peak off all time.

For me there are two types of talent, innate talent and talent to improve. Imran didn't possess much of the former, but he arguably had the most of the latter that anyone playing the game has had.
 
So Happy!!! Finally the time has arrived hopefully he only gets better from here on! :yahoo

Big Amir Fan here!
 
Coming to Amir, what he is doing now is above average staff for a left-arm pacer - that's slanting his stock ball across right handed batsmen at pace & fairly accurately, which in tv looks impressive because of the angle, it looks moving lot. But, top order batsmen'll be able to leave lot of his balls on length & line. Even against leftis, he is just bowling out swing that they can leave while his stock ball can easily be negotiated by stressing front pad out side line (by lefties).

The best left armers could do some thing more - they (only 2 in history, may be Gilmore for few maches as well) used to twist their body & wrist in a way that their stock ball would come into right-handersin air, or at least held it's line & then move away after pitching. The best of the best I have seen was the bowled of Allen Lamb in World Cup final, a perfect unplayable ball - if you are too good, one can touch it for a catch, Lamb got squired up & bowled, a tail-ender would have been LBW, for losing balance & caught plumb in front.

I think, Amir is too concern about his front foot, therefore he is not stressing it to the limit, while his front arm & head position isn't up right at release point - once he gets these 3 things right, he'll add more pace in air & movement on & off the pitch. If he can keep his fitness for next 10 years, he should cross Wasim's Test numbers, at least Waquar's number for sure.
 
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Zaz said:
Its true Imran had very little natural talent Everything he achieved bowling and batting wise was the result of days and days, weeks and weeks, months and months and years and years of hard work and determination He was the equivalent of younis khan Both had much more talented peers but they performed above and beyond their god given talent
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What you smoking bro?
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Imran was a trundler because of his extremely poor action not because he lacked talent. No one becomes a genuine pacer unless they are physically capable. Sheer hard work is not enough.
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Lol that's so true.

People these days going.. Imran had no talent. :)))

He probably had the most naturally athletic body out of all Pak cricketers. Good muscle fit too. Only had to tweak some mechanics.
 
Hawkeye said:
Lol that's so true.

People these days going.. Imran had no talent. :)))

He probably had the most naturally athletic body out of all Pak cricketers. Good muscle fit too. Only had to tweak some mechanics.
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That's possibly true but these days people use that as an excuse as well like "I don't have the genetics" or "Am not physically able" which prevents them from being succesful, there have been plenty of sportsman who weren't physically or technically gifted but punched above their weight to attain success at the world and elite level. It's cliche to say it but things like hard work, sheer will power, self belief and an unwillingness to quit on your stool goes a long way to elevate yourself on an individual and personal level.
 
MMHS said:
Coming to Amir, what he is doing now is above average staff for a left-arm pacer - that's slanting his stock ball across right handed batsmen at pace & fairly accurately, which in tv looks impressive because of the angle, it looks moving lot. But, top order batsmen'll be able to leave lot of his balls on length & line. Even against leftis, he is just bowling out swing that they can leave while his stock ball can easily be negotiated by stressing front pad out side line (by lefties).

The best left armers could do some thing more - they (only 2 in history, may be Gilmore for few maches as well) used to twist their body & wrist in a way that their stock ball would come into right-handersin air, or at least held it's line & then move away after pitching. The best of the best I have seen was the bowled of Allen Lamb in World Cup final, a perfect unplayable ball - if you are too good, one can touch it for a catch, Lamb got squired up & bowled, a tail-ender would have been LBW, for losing balance & caught plumb in front.

I think, Amir is too concern about his front foot, therefore he is not stressing it to the limit, while his front arm & head position isn't up right at release point - once he gets these 3 things right, he'll add more pace in air & movement on & off the pitch. If he can keep his fitness for next 10 years, he should cross Wasim's Test numbers, at least Waquar's number for sure.
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you made me happy in the last line but he will fade away due to fitness because evry captain is overusing him and 4 bowlers formula if applied by sarfo then wait that how much time it takes fot him to break..
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mohammad Amir's figures of 6-44 are the best by a Pakistani pace bowler since Mohammad Asif's 6-41 versus Australia in 2010 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WIvPAK?src=hash">#WIvPAK</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/856174837945032706">April 23, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Needs to do a repeat performance and win the game for us.
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
how was the chicken?
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It wasn't that great, was a dodgy chicken donner kebab! went to the toilet midnight then had to once again at 5am in the midst of a beautiful dream I was having where my beloved Khan broke the 10K barrier! I think it was a Bengali takeaway, they're not very good cooks to be honest
 
MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mohammad Amir's figures of 6-44 are the best by a Pakistani pace bowler since Mohammad Asif's 6-41 versus Australia in 2010 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WIvPAK?src=hash">#WIvPAK</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/856174837945032706">April 23, 2017</a></blockquote>
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And people still want Amir dropped, we need to judge him with respect to our own pace bowling resources and not our expectations of him
 
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