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Mohammad Amir the batsman

hur rizvi said:
Lets hope for the best.

IMO he needs to sort out his length and stamina will automatically improve with more games.

He needs to find his mojo with old ball too, before his Ban I remember him using Old ball quite well in Aus, Eng and NZ
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These 2 are the most important aspects which he needs to improve on then rest will fall into place inshallah.
 
Mamoon said:
Not complaining - he showed potential with the bat which means he is capable, and Pakistan cricket needs him to contribute with the bat as well.

We are touring Australia, England and NZ this year - 30-40 extra runs from the tail can make a world of difference.

Of all teams in the world, Pakistan needs the strongest tail because our top-order is rubbish. It is a logical fallacy to say that he doesn't need to contribute with the bat as long as the specialist batsmen don't.

To me it seems like a case of him being too rusty, and the management needs to work on this. After the WT20, we have a long break before the tour of England, and it will be a good time for the management to work with him on his batting.

Hopefully he won't be tested much in the remaining matches in the Asia Cup and the WT20.
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in past we had a more than decent tail which helped in many tests around the 90z....

from wht i have seen, all 4 on the tail do look they have a good technique.... but effort needs to be put in which they dont seem to..... they shld do a lot more on tht...
 
Obstructing_the_field said:
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in past we had a more than decent tail which helped in many tests around the 90z....

from wht i have seen, all 4 on the tail do look they have a good technique.... but effort needs to be put in which they dont seem to..... they shld do a lot more on tht...
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Lol Wahab and Rahat got a shockingly bad technique, but both amir and yasir got a decent technique.
 
Wahab Yasir and Amir have all played at least one decent innings with the bat so far in the series. Arthur has clearly to.d them to work on there batting. Hopefully Amir and Yasir keep it up. Rahat is useless with the bat nearly impossible to improve him with the bat.
 
Him, Wahab, Yasir all have potential with bat. They just get too lazy at times esp Wahab.

Wahab already is a dodgy bowler in non Asian conditions.
 
Looked confident in the 2nd inns and was pretty handy with the bat and showed some fight which was good to see. He can make valuable runs when needed.
 
A very good supporting hand from him.. Almost on a 100 partnership with Younis..

Finally he has come good.. now just needs to follow this up with a bowling masterclass like he did in 2010
 
If he can't take wickets now then this inning holds no value.

We all know how Amir batted in the last match when the team was fighting for a draw.
 
His innings holds great value as is - there shouldnt be any conditions.
 
His defence and batting temperament is amazing. Have said this so many times now. A lot better than the likes of Hafeez, Shan.

The only thing Amir misses are more strokes compared to those bats.
 
My sincere condolences to OP. First Moeen, then Younis, and now Aamir. None deserves such embarrassment really.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] please make a thread to criticize Mohammad Nawaz. Thanks.
 
Mohammad Aamir - the batsman - is back!!

Lols what hitting! :)
 
Mamoon said:
Yes he has bowled well, but is anyone else disappointed with his batting so far?

He seems to have completely lost it as a batsman, and looks like a number 11 out there.

Amir's bowling excited many people but it was also his batting that made him a very exciting prospect and enhanced the comparisons with Wasim. He seemed like a batsman who could average around 18-20 and score the odd fifty here and there.

Our tail-enders are already very weak and people expected Amir to beef up our tail on his return, but at the moment, he is making our tail look even longer.

He looks like a totally different batsman to the one we saw nearly pull-off a miraculous chase vs NZ in 2009.....

I hope he is just rusty and regains his form in the future, it will be very disappointing if he doesn't perform with the bat.

His batting will be especially important in Test cricket.

No one seems to be talking about his batting so I think this thread should be used to keep track of his batting.
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Mohd Amir VS Hassan Ali ... Amir's batting is wayyy better. Can't believe he keeps coming so late.
 
Op was right amir wasnt batting to his potential.

Don't know why he's batting at 11.

In tests He would make a good night watchman and as a pinch hitter in odis
 
good to see him making runs again, in no way is he a no 11

In odis he should be comin in at 9 below our all rounders at 7-8, hopefully if he can continue improving he can become one of the all rounders
 
I mean I do not mind that he can bat considering he has forgotten how to bowl. The more batting the merrier
 
I dont understand why Wahab was batting at 9 and Amir at 11. Amir has looked more competent with the bat than him, even in the test series.
 
Great innings from him today! 2nd Best to watch out of the Pakistani Batsman! I'd still say Sharjeel's was better because when he was playing the game was still on and more exciting! By the Time Amir came everything was over!
 
He scored runs with no slips in place in a format where bouncers are rationed.

He hasn't fixed his batting. He has just scored runs in an easy format of the game.
 
Junaids said:
He scored runs with no slips in place in a format where bouncers are rationed.

He hasn't fixed his batting. He has just scored runs in an easy format of the game.
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So u want him to ask morgan for 2 slips and ask umpire to allow n bouncers, and then bat?

Or should he tell mickey "No I am not gonna bat in this easy format"

C'mon Buttler,hales,morgan,sharjeel all batted t same way.

Learn to give credit where its due

Ridiculous
 
If he has a full season in County next year, he'll improve his batting significantly.

However, fast-bowling all-rounders are the most rare breeds, because of the work load. They need to train hard for strengthening muscles/ligaments, then need to train for stamina & power if they are to improve in batting as well. In net session, they have to bowl fast & then must bat against regular bowlers & bat for long. During match, they need to think/focus as a spearhead fast bowler, then completely shift to batting mood. These require lots of hard work, determination, dedication & sacrifice. For a fast-bowling all-rounder, the work load is almost 3 times than a specialist batsman or fast bowler & twice of a spin bowling all-rounder.

I don't want him to lose his bowling & improve his batting - he must maintain/improve in bowling & then add in batting. Wasim had lots of batting abilities (stats apart, he has won many more meaningful matches than someone like MoHa, with bat that is), but he didn't/couldn't work hard, may be diabetics didn't help; but I am glad that Was didn't leave bowling & ended up as a better version of Chaminda Vaas.

In contrary, Abdur Razzak had unreal ability - I saw him first in 1998 in SAF at No. 10 & he scored 40+ from a hopeless situation with lots of quality shots. Even Kepler Wessels was in full of praise on his batting, then he clocked 145KM next match & he was officially 18 then. Unfortunately, he went the cheaper route - an effective ODI bat, a decent fast medium bowler & poor man's Trevor Baily in Test.

I don't mind Aamir batting at 10, if he fulfils his bowling potential; but don't want another version of Chaminda Vaas (no disrespect intended)
 
what i see he is getting back everthing as a baller and batmen 22 sc 58 what else you accept we need a nother baller his patner like waqar and wasim asif need to be back and fins young geninue baller like shoaib akhter why dont pcb ask shoaib akhter to find a next shaoib akhter
Justcrazy said:
If he bowls well , that is more than enough . He deserves a spot on his bowling only.

You need to find others who can hold bat and get some runs down the order.
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enjoyed his final spell yesterday with the ball stats will not tell everything he was consistently hitting 90's and was regularly bowling yorkers the pitch was dead as a dodo and the batting sensational but atleast I am happy he still has it in him to hit 90 mph after such a long tiring tour.
 
The fielding off his bowling has been absolutely pathetic. I feel utmost sympathy for the guy who is toiling his heart out.
 
This is an insane knock by Amir, don't wanna jinx him.. hopefully he gets a 50 InshaAllah.. fully deserves it
 
Good to see him get his mojo back with the bat. Should permanently bat at 8.
 
Can Amir be the all-rounder Pakistan is looking for?

Mohd Amir seems to have a solid defence. He can also drive well. He can be developed into a all-rounder by backing him & playing him at no.8. He seems to have all the ingredients of a decent bat. Like Ashwin is doing for India he can play the same role for pak
 
An all-round great cricketer. Can join the likes of Imran Khan and Wasim Akram as world class all-rounders.
 
Faheem ashraf vs Mohammad amir, whos the better batsmen?

Been watching the hype regarding fahim being this and that but the guy is bits and pieces. Not even a very good bowler or batsmen, yet he is in the playing 11.

Amir on the other hand is not only a good bowler but has shown once again today that he could bat.

I think instead of bringing in bits and pieces why not concentrate on amirs batting
 
Muhammad Amir is playing the innings of his life

Muhammad Amir is playing innings of his life, the title says it all
 
Fahim is obviously the better batsman, but Amir managed to keep his head today.
 
Take a bow son, TAKE A BOW.

You have stepped up when your team needed you the most.

You showed more guts than Azhar, Malik, Hafeez and Imad combined.
 
Batted better than Azhar, Hafeez and even Sarfraz. :14:
He is mentally strong. Rare thing for us now a days.
 
Major said:
Been watching the hype regarding fahim being this and that but the guy is bits and pieces. Not even a very good bowler or batsmen, yet he is in the playing 11.
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The guy just played his first match. Give him some time. I must admit I did not have high expectations regarding his bowling, but his pace impressed me. He bowled in the mid 130's and even managed a few in the 140's. He still needs to learn to swing and seam the ball, but there is some hope. Also he might be able to increase his pace with 5 kph if he improves his fitness further and/or improves his action. His batting was also much better than I expected. I thought he was a slogger/hack, but it actually seems like he has the skills and ability to be a proper big hitting lower order batsman. Only time will till if it comes to pass or not.
May I ask if the reason for you dislike is the fact that he is a new (young) player? Respectfully, you seem to have a history of supporting older and more experienced players? I mean no disrespect, just curious, as that has been my observation
 
He was more calmer than Sarfraz.

He was defending straight balls, left wide ones and hit the bad ones.

He just made the situation look so simple.
 
Zabbaz said:
The guy just played his first match. Give him some time. I must admit I did not have high expectations regarding his bowling, but his pace impressed me. He bowled in the mid 130's and even managed a few in the 140's. He still needs to learn to swing and seam the ball, but there is some hope. Also he might be able to increase his pace with 5 kph if he improves his fitness further and/or improves his action. His batting was also much better than I expected. I thought he was a slogger/hack, but it actually seems like he has the skills and ability to be a proper big hitting lower order batsman. Only time will till if it comes to pass or not.
May I ask if the reason for you dislike is the fact that he is a new (young) player? Respectfully, you seem to have a history of supporting older and more experienced players? I mean no disrespect, just curious, as that has been my observation
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I dislike him because he doesn't dominate any aspect of the game. Like every player either dominates with the bat, or with the bowl. He does neither. Hes just bits and pieces.

This guy isn't capable of bowling bowling 10 overs. You could only get 5 overs off him before fearing he would get attacked.

Plus, hes an allrounder who will come after all batsmen are gone.

He is basically another Afridi. Bits and pieces.
Why not play a proper allrounder in his place, like Shadab Khan.

Another reason is that i always trusted Misbah as a captain when he would select his teams, especially his domestic teams. This guy existed when Misbah was captain of Faisalabad Wolves(T20), and yet Misbha didn't select him in the team, even though the wolves needed some slogging batsmen as they had a terrible batting line up. So i think that says alot about the players quality if Misbah didn't select him for his domestic playing 11
 
Major said:
I dislike him because he doesn't dominate any aspect of the game. Like every player either dominates with the bat, or with the bowl. He does neither. Hes just bits and pieces.

This guy isn't capable of bowling bowling 10 overs. You could only get 5 overs off him before fearing he would get attacked.

Plus, hes an allrounder who will come after all batsmen are gone.

He is basically another Afridi. Bits and pieces.
Why not play a proper allrounder in his place, like Shadab Khan.

Another reason is that i always trusted Misbah as a captain when he would select his teams, especially his domestic teams. This guy existed when Misbah was captain of Faisalabad Wolves(T20), and yet Misbha didn't select him in the team, even though the wolves needed some slogging batsmen as they had a terrible batting line up. So i think that says alot about the players quality if Misbah didn't select him for his domestic playing 11
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Personally I am a fan of Misbah, have to say he wasn't he best judge of Talent.
How many games did Riffatullah get for Isb before Hussain Talat was selected.
 
Getting there, will be a bowling all rounder in near future. Gave his 200% today, bravo, bravo.
 
Amir should concentrate on bowling .

With bat he should be good enough to be a bowler who can bat a bit, that will be good enough for pakistan.
 
Whenever he tries or the team needs he scores runs! It's amazing he has the ability and talent to bat. He's shown it now just wish he would this committed to batting every time he bats. But can't ask much more from a genuine fast bowler who can stick up perform when the team needs him. This is why Amir is my favorite Pakistani player right now not just his bowling but his determination and grit to fight it out every time he is on the field.

A few examples include the following -

  • 73* vs NZ 2009 (ODI)
  • 30* vs AUS 2010 (TEST)
  • 29 vs ENG 2016 (TEST)
  • 39* vs ENG 2016 (TEST)
  • 58 vs ENG 2016 (ODI)
  • 21 vs AUS 2016 (TEST)
  • 48 vs AUS 2016 (TEST)
  • 29 vs AUS 2016 (TEST)
  • 27 vs WI 2017 (TEST)
  • TODAY
 
Major said:
I dislike him because he doesn't dominate any aspect of the game. Like every player either dominates with the bat, or with the bowl. He does neither. Hes just bits and pieces.

This guy isn't capable of bowling bowling 10 overs. You could only get 5 overs off him before fearing he would get attacked.

Plus, hes an allrounder who will come after all batsmen are gone.

He is basically another Afridi. Bits and pieces.
Why not play a proper allrounder in his place, like Shadab Khan.

Another reason is that i always trusted Misbah as a captain when he would select his teams, especially his domestic teams. This guy existed when Misbah was captain of Faisalabad Wolves(T20), and yet Misbha didn't select him in the team, even though the wolves needed some slogging batsmen as they had a terrible batting line up. So i think that says alot about the players quality if Misbah didn't select him for his domestic playing 11
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I think that if you are being honest the bold part is actual reason for your opinion. I respect your opinion, but I think it is a mistake to give such weight to the opinion of one man (in this case Misbah). However thank you for answering the question
 
Runs are very good however don't want another irfan Pathan scenario.

As long as he is taking wickets that's his main job and if he can chip in with runs than even better.
 
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