NCA White-Ball Camp to commence from Friday

[BouncerGuy]

NCA White-Ball Camp to commence from Friday

Twenty-eight players will feature in the NCA White-Ball Camp, which will commence from Friday, 15 May, the PCB announced today. The seven-day camp will conclude on Thursday, 21 May with players taking part in training sessions as well as practice matches.

The camp has been organised to help players prepare for the forthcoming ODI series against Australia, which will be played in Rawalpindi and Lahore from 30 May to 4 June. The squad for the three-match series will be announced in due course.

During the camp, the NCA coaching staff will work alongside the Pakistan men’s team white-ball coaching staff to better prepare the players for the series.

The camp also includes Pakistan U19 fast bowlers Abdul Subhan and Ali Raza, who represented Pakistan in the ICC U19 Men’s Cricket World Cup held in Zimbabwe and Namibia earlier this year.

Recently, the NCA also held a Red-Ball Camp featuring 17 players, who underwent skills and fitness sessions and took part in two scenario-based practice matches.

Camp players in alphabetical order:

Aamir Jamal, Abdul Samad, Abdul Subhan, Abrar Ahmed, Ahmed Daniyal, Akif Javed, Ali Raza, Arafat Minhas, Faisal Akram, Fakhar Zaman, Haider Ali, Hamza Nazar, Haris Rauf, Hunain Shah, Khawaja Mohammad Nafay, Maaz Sadaqat, Mehran Mumtaz, Mohammad Faiq, Mohammad Hasnain, Mohammad Salman Mirza, Naseem Shah, Saad Baig, Saad Masood, Sahibzada Farhan, Shadab Khan, Shamyl Hussain, Sufiyan Moqim and Usman Khan

 

[pakfan54588]

Who is this hamza nazar dude his stats are pretty medicore while faiq dude has tailander asque technique .Mohsin raiz and kg should have been their

 

[BouncerGuy]

Who is this hamza nazar dude his stats are pretty medicore while faiq dude has tailander asque technique .Mohsin raiz and kg should have been their

Not sure what haider ali and naseem shah are doing here... Crap

 

[pakfan54588]

Base on last odi series and this list most probably they will select this squad for aus series

Openers

Fakhar zaman,maaz sadaqat,s.farhan

Middle order

Babar Azam,rizwan,Usman Khan,Abdul samad.salman agha

Allrounders

Shadab khan,Arafat minhas,Faheem ashraf

Spinners

Faisal akram ,Abrar Ahmed

Fast bowlers

Shaheen shah Afridi,haris rauf,ali raza

 

[pakfan54588]

Not sure what haider ali and naseem shah are doing here... Crap

Yup sidlining saim based on his failure in t20i is surprising. Hopefully this dude don't fade away he is few of our batsmen who can play fast bowler well on bouncy wicket of Sa

 

[pakfan54588]

NCA White-Ball Camp to commence from Friday

Twenty-eight players will feature in the NCA White-Ball Camp, which will commence from Friday, 15 May, the PCB announced today. The seven-day camp will conclude on Thursday, 21 May with players taking part in training sessions as well as practice matches.

The camp has been organised to help players prepare for the forthcoming ODI series against Australia, which will be played in Rawalpindi and Lahore from 30 May to 4 June. The squad for the three-match series will be announced in due course.

During the camp, the NCA coaching staff will work alongside the Pakistan men’s team white-ball coaching staff to better prepare the players for the series.

The camp also includes Pakistan U19 fast bowlers Abdul Subhan and Ali Raza, who represented Pakistan in the ICC U19 Men’s Cricket World Cup held in Zimbabwe and Namibia earlier this year.

Recently, the NCA also held a Red-Ball Camp featuring 17 players, who underwent skills and fitness sessions and took part in two scenario-based practice matches.

Camp players in alphabetical order:

Aamir Jamal, Abdul Samad, Abdul Subhan, Abrar Ahmed, Ahmed Daniyal, Akif Javed, Ali Raza, Arafat Minhas, Faisal Akram, Fakhar Zaman, Haider Ali, Hamza Nazar, Haris Rauf, Hunain Shah, Khawaja Mohammad Nafay, Maaz Sadaqat, Mehran Mumtaz, Mohammad Faiq, Mohammad Hasnain, Mohammad Salman Mirza, Naseem Shah, Saad Baig, Saad Masood, Sahibzada Farhan, Shadab Khan, Shamyl Hussain, Sufiyan Moqim and Usman Khan

Good to see akif Javed is in their .One of our so called coaches have told him to fix his runup but in psl he was bowling with same runup .If he is comfortable he should stick with it

 

[Major]

Lol maaz sadaqat the overhyped kid now bought in.

Another career destroyed

 

[shah9425]

No hopes might even lose to Aussies c team

 

[Omer2002]

Aussie already announced their team Marsh and Carey should be more than enough for us after the scarring will get from Bangla 2 0 test defeat

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

A few questionable picks:

1. Shamyl preferred over Saim.
2. Kamran Ghulam ignored.
3. Saad Beg given an opportunity despite being super mediocre.
4. Haris Rauf & Hasnain still being selected for camps.
5. Hamza Nazr who?
6. Faiq again, why?

Saim has been bad in T20s, he has been decent in ODIs. What kind of format mixing is this?

 

[shamaan786]

Sameer Minhas should have atleast been In this squad.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Lol maaz sadaqat the overhyped kid now bought in.

Another career destroyed

He performed in T20 Cricket. They are inducting him in One Day side.

 

[RidiculousMan]

What kind of format mixing is this?

This is a favorite pass time of Pakistan Cricket

 

[shamaan786]

He performed in T20 Cricket. They are inducting him in One Day side.

He played 3 odis before the psl?

 

[RidiculousMan]

He played 3 odis before the psl?

Yea in Bangladesh because he had performed in T20 emerging Asia Cup

 

[amvbfm]

A few questionable picks:

1. Shamyl preferred over Saim.
2. Kamran Ghulam ignored.
3. Saad Beg given an opportunity despite being super mediocre.
4. Haris Rauf & Hasnain still being selected for camps.
5. Hamza Nazr who?
6. Faiq again, why?

Saim has been bad in T20s, he has been decent in ODIs. What kind of format mixing is this?

Shamyl and Saad have been decent in the domestic circuit so probably deserve to be there but Nafay and Haider Ali make zero sense to me especially when you could have replaced them with Saim, Shahzaib, Kamran, or even Sameer Minhas (purely on ability), all more deserving and capable than those two. Neither of them are ODI specialists or done anything special to deserve a spot. Both didn't play the domestic ODI competition, Nafay has played only 2 list As in his entire career yet both were able to leapfrog Saim (ODI avg of 47 and done nothing wrong in ODIs), Shahzaib (highest scorer of President's cup), Kamran (no need to reproduce numbers about his consistent grind in List As). Who would then want to play or perform on the domestic scene. And if Nafay is there as a specialist keeper then that's even more preposterous.

On the bowling side Hasnain is always a curious selection given how many chances he has gotten and yet failed to produce anything substantial. Why not Arshad Iqbal? Ali Usman is another one who should probably have been there instead of Saad Masood.

And who is Hamza Nazar? What has he done to get selected. I can't find anything of note anywhere to make sense of it.

 

[shamaan786]

Yea in Bangladesh because he had performed in T20 emerging Asia Cup

Has also played List A.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Has also played List A.

That was not the reason for his selection in ODI format. There had been many that performed even better in List A as openers than Sadaqat.

 

[shamaan786]

That was not the reason for his selection in ODI format. There had been many that performed even better in List A as openers than Sadaqat.

But it's a continuation of good performance anyways who should have been selected instead ?

 

[RidiculousMan]

But it's a continuation of good performance anyways who should have been selected instead ?

If that were the case then Saim should not have been dropped from ODI format. He had better stats and performances than Sadaqat in the format and even was performing for Pakistan in ODIs. What happened to management's consistency there?

If we purely talk about List A merit then Usman Khan and Haseebullah should have been selected.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

Shamyl and Saad have been decent in the domestic circuit so probably deserve to be there but Nafay and Haider Ali make zero sense to me especially when you could have replaced them with Saim, Shahzaib, Kamran, or even Sameer Minhas (purely on ability), all more deserving and capable than those two. Neither of them are ODI specialists or done anything special to deserve a spot. Both didn't play the domestic ODI competition, Nafay has played only 2 list As in his entire career yet both were able to leapfrog Saim (ODI avg of 47 and done nothing wrong in ODIs), Shahzaib (highest scorer of President's cup), Kamran (no need to reproduce numbers about his consistent grind in List As). Who would then want to play or perform on the domestic scene. And if Nafay is there as a specialist keeper then that's even more preposterous.

On the bowling side Hasnain is always a curious selection given how many chances he has gotten and yet failed to produce anything substantial. Why not Arshad Iqbal? Ali Usman is another one who should probably have been there instead of Saad Masood.

And who is Hamza Nazar? What has he done to get selected. I can't find anything of note anywhere to make sense of it.

Shamyl does not deserve to be above Saim, & Sameer at the moment. Sameer outperformed him in every metric in the recently concluded "gold standard of selection tournament" that is PSL. His numbers in ODI cricket are still formidable no matter how you slice them


Personally don't dislike Shamyl but they are strapping a rocket to him and alleviating him to stratosphere when there are other better alternatives available.

Pak does not have a good keeper at the moment so I can understand them trying Nafay, Ghori, & Saad but then why ignore Haseeb completely. At one time he was backup to Rizwan and now he can't even find a place in a training camp.

Arshad Iqbal, Sameen Gul, Muhammad Zeeshan, Riazullah, Ihsanullah, Rizwanullah, Imran Khan, & Muhammad Salman etc. have all been ignored; some of them have been part of Pak A setup & some of them have shown potential or possess speed or height. What's the camp going to do with Haris, Hasnain, & Naseem - will there be a magical brain transplant of some sort to make them champion bowlers all of a sudden?

 

[shamaan786]

If that were the case then Saim should not have been dropped from ODI format. He had better stats and performances than Sadaqat in the format and even was performing for Pakistan in ODIs. What happened to management's consistency there?

If we purely talk about List A merit then Usman Khan and Haseebullah should have been selected.

I agree he should not be dropped from the squad.Haseebullah isn't a like for like replacement for Saim.

 

[shamaan786]

Shamyl does not deserve to be above Saim, & Sameer at the moment. Sameer outperformed him in every metric in the recently concluded "gold standard of selection tournament" that is PSL. His numbers in ODI cricket are still formidable no matter how you slice them

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Personally don't dislike Shamyl but they are strapping a rocket to him and alleviating him to stratosphere when there are other better alternatives available.

Pak does not have a good keeper at the moment so I can understand them trying Nafay, Ghori, & Saad but then why ignore Haseeb completely. At one time he was backup to Rizwan and now he can't even find a place in a training camp.

Arshad Iqbal, Sameen Gul, Muhammad Zeeshan, Riazullah, Ihsanullah, Rizwanullah, Imran Khan, & Muhammad Salman etc. have all been ignored; some of them have been part of Pak A setup & some of them have shown potential or possess speed or height. What's the camp going to do with Haris, Hasnain, & Naseem - will there be a magical brain transplant of some sort to make them champion bowlers all of a sudden?

Nafy can only open he can't bat in the middle order .

 

[amvbfm]

Shamyl does not deserve to be above Saim, & Sameer at the moment. Sameer outperformed him in every metric in the recently concluded "gold standard of selection tournament" that is PSL. His numbers in ODI cricket are still formidable no matter how you slice them

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Personally don't dislike Shamyl but they are strapping a rocket to him and alleviating him to stratosphere when there are other better alternatives available.

Pak does not have a good keeper at the moment so I can understand them trying Nafay, Ghori, & Saad but then why ignore Haseeb completely. At one time he was backup to Rizwan and now he can't even find a place in a training camp.

Arshad Iqbal, Sameen Gul, Muhammad Zeeshan, Riazullah, Ihsanullah, Rizwanullah, Imran Khan, & Muhammad Salman etc. have all been ignored; some of them have been part of Pak A setup & some of them have shown potential or possess speed or height. What's the camp going to do with Haris, Hasnain, & Naseem - will there be a magical brain transplant of some sort to make them champion bowlers all of a sudden?

I have no issues with Sameer or Saim being selected above Shamyl, just saying Shamyl's selection at least makes some sense to me as opposed to someone like Haider who has done nothing of note recently. Also PSL being the gold standard for selection for all formats and selecting based on the performance of a different format is one of our main issues.

Nafay is NOT a keeper. He can be tolerated in T20s but they just can't be serious about having him keep in ODIs. Especially when you have Usman and Saad Baig in the camp and Haseeb, Ghazi, Rohail, even Haris or the young U19 keeper in waiting. Also Nafay is highly overrated as a bat and i don't see him making a career in any format. I really wonder how he gets picked for every format, even the national team, despite playing barely any domestic cricket apart from PSL.

Apart from those you mentioned above the likes of Ali Usman, Shahzad Gul, Afaq Afridi, Mohammad Hamza etc. have all done really well in FC cricket yet none of them were considered for the Bangladesh series and we saw what Shaheen and Hasan produced. Naseem, Haris will be selected automatically and do the same for the ODI team.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

Nafy can only open he can't bat in the middle order .

Everyone bats in the top order. That's one of our main issue. Farhan, Babar, Rizwan, Maaz, Fakhar, Saim, Abdullah, Nafay, etc. It's like we have no middle order at all.

I have no issues with Sameer or Saim being selected above Shamyl, just saying Shamyl's selection at least makes some sense to me as opposed to someone like Haider who has done nothing of note recently. Also PSL being the gold standard for selection for all formats and selecting based on the performance of a different format is one of our main issues.

Nafay is NOT a keeper. He can be tolerated in T20s but they just can't be serious about having him keep in ODIs. Especially when you have Usman and Saad Baig in the camp and Haseeb, Ghazi, Rohail, even Haris or the young U19 keeper in waiting. Also Nafay is highly overrated as a bat and i don't see him making a career in any format. I really wonder how he gets picked for every format, even the national team, despite playing barely any domestic cricket apart from PSL.

Apart from those you mentioned above the likes of Ali Usman, Shahzad Gul, Afaq Afridi, Mohammad Hamza etc. have all done really well in FC cricket yet none of them were considered for the Bangladesh series and we saw what Shaheen and Hasan produced. Naseem, Haris will be selected automatically and do the same for the ODI team.

Haider hasn't done anything of note but Pak talent pool is barren in terms of middle order.

Just feel that they go forward one step and then go back 28 steps and hence this turns out to be the reason that we keep falling behind rest of the cricketing nations.

 

[shamaan786]

Everyone bats in the top order. That's one of our main issue. Farhan, Babar, Rizwan, Maaz, Fakhar, Saim, Abdullah, Nafay, etc. It's like we have no middle order at all.



Haider hasn't done anything of note but Pak talent pool is barren in terms of middle order.

Just feel that they go forward one step and then go back 28 steps and hence this turns out to be the reason that we keep falling behind rest of the cricketing nations.

Kamran Ghulam can bat in the middle order,Rizwan also bats in the middle order.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Everyone bats in the top order. That's one of our main issue. Farhan, Babar, Rizwan, Maaz, Fakhar, Saim, Abdullah, Nafay, etc. It's like we have no middle order at all.



Haider hasn't done anything of note but Pak talent pool is barren in terms of middle order.

Just feel that they go forward one step and then go back 28 steps and hence this turns out to be the reason that we keep falling behind rest of the cricketing nations.

We have middle-order batsmen in ODI cricket, the likes of Saad Khan, Awais Zafar, Kamran Ghulam and Atiq ur Rahman are also waiting for opportunities.

The issue is we HAVE to play Rizwan at 4 in ODI cricket, otherwise our cricket will be over.

Even someone like Hussain Talat has good List A stats, but he is played at 5 or 6.

 

[Major]

Zaman khan bowled a good over in psl, and was bought in international cricket where he showed he was one of the worst bowlers.

Now Hunain Shah has also been bought in cause of one good over.

 

[BouncerGuy]

This camp is just Khana puri. It makes no sense. The selections made are hilarious. We can make a detailed case out of each player's selection out of merit.... Disastrous tenure continues.

 

[Kianig89]

What will be the 15 from the Camp pool

Farhan
Shamyl
Usman+
Agha vc
Shadab
Saad B
A Samad
SSA c
Muqeem
Ali Raza
Abrar
===========
Fakhar , Hunain, Nafay, Maaz

Sad to see Saim left out

 

[ElRaja]

what is the point of a white ball camp, what purpose to these camps serve, what metric is their efficacy measured on, and how is their not an alternative to what is essentially a pre season get together held whenever the PCB fancy.

 

[ezy9]

where is Saim? Do they know there are three different formats in cricket? why always mixing them up

 

[hassan918]

Sameer Minhas should have atleast been In this squad.

This camp is for the upcoming ODI series against Australia. This kid is good but we shouldn't be picking ODI/test teams on PSL performances.

 

[Kianig89]

As per reports Saim Ayub is completely discarded , another case of mishandling & misjudgment by PCB

 

[Devadwal]

As per reports Saim Ayub is completely discarded , another case of mishandling & misjudgment by PCB

He has good numbers in odi cricket. Deserved to dropped from T20 or test cricket but ODI is his strong suits.

 

[shamaan786]

This camp is for the upcoming ODI series against Australia. This kid is good but we shouldn't be picking ODI/test teams on PSL performances.

But then we shouldn't be picking Ali Raza Shamyl Hussain and Faiq

 

[Ball Blazer]

NCA white-ball camp begins in Lahore with 28 players in attendance

At National Cricket Academy, players took part in one-on-one sessions with Pakistan’s white-ball and NCA coaches on day one, while PCB medical staff also conducted fitness assessments and physical testing.

 

[Kianig89]

He has good numbers in odi cricket. Deserved to dropped from T20 or test cricket but ODI is his strong suits.

That's PCB for you , like &dislike and favoratism

 

[ask_analyse_act]

They have called Haider Ali , but not Hasan Nawaz a gem of a finisher , who was quietly developing into a dream no.5/6 and as a finisher for Pakistan in LOIs to finish games.. he was thrown away for Abdul Samad who still has no good record of winning games..

Pak should keep him in the LOI side and give him more games.. He has that natural ability to keep himself calm under pressure and also who can clear the boundary with ease.. Especially when chasing even if the required run rate is 11+ an over...

 

[Abid Z]

NCA White-Ball Camp to commence from Friday

Twenty-eight players will feature in the NCA White-Ball Camp, which will commence from Friday, 15 May, the PCB announced today. The seven-day camp will conclude on Thursday, 21 May with players taking part in training sessions as well as practice matches.

The camp has been organised to help players prepare for the forthcoming ODI series against Australia, which will be played in Rawalpindi and Lahore from 30 May to 4 June. The squad for the three-match series will be announced in due course.

During the camp, the NCA coaching staff will work alongside the Pakistan men’s team white-ball coaching staff to better prepare the players for the series.

The camp also includes Pakistan U19 fast bowlers Abdul Subhan and Ali Raza, who represented Pakistan in the ICC U19 Men’s Cricket World Cup held in Zimbabwe and Namibia earlier this year.

Recently, the NCA also held a Red-Ball Camp featuring 17 players, who underwent skills and fitness sessions and took part in two scenario-based practice matches.

Camp players in alphabetical order:

Aamir Jamal, Abdul Samad, Abdul Subhan, Abrar Ahmed, Ahmed Daniyal, Akif Javed, Ali Raza, Arafat Minhas, Faisal Akram, Fakhar Zaman, Haider Ali, Hamza Nazar, Haris Rauf, Hunain Shah, Khawaja Mohammad Nafay, Maaz Sadaqat, Mehran Mumtaz, Mohammad Faiq, Mohammad Hasnain, Mohammad Salman Mirza, Naseem Shah, Saad Baig, Saad Masood, Sahibzada Farhan, Shadab Khan, Shamyl Hussain, Sufiyan Moqim and Usman Khan

A few interesting things to note in this. Of course I don’t know all the names but some jump out from watching psl.

Pak have def identified brackets of bowlers and this is the right way to go from developing a t20 four over specialists to Odi and being able to bowl 10 overs. Pak will have to choose 1 from each and they have to compete against each other.

There are speedsters but waywards.
Haris, husnain, akif and Ali Raza (subhan I don’t know)

There are seam all rounders.

Amir Jamal, Danyal

There’s a line and length bowler
Salman Mirza

There’s the skiddy fast bowlers
Hunain and Naseem (short but skiddy)

There’s two leftie leg spinners
Faisal and Sufiyan but they can’t bat or field.

There’s full time spinner
Meehan and Abrar. Makes the tail very long.

As I said I don’t know some of the names but from here I think there is the making of a good and varied attack. Bowling 4 overs is nothing you can get lucky wickets towards the back of the innings but bowling 7-8 in the middle overs where you have to contain and get wickets requires stamina and skill. Let’s see.

 

[Hellion]

Need another Kakul camp. Not this.

 

[Devadwal]

Need another Kakul camp. Not this.

After kakul camp , Pakistan team deal downfall started. Unhone apne jase hi Pakistan team ko surrender team bana diya.

 

[Suleiman]

Waiting for the Dagestani camp, the boyzz need to train grappling and discipline techniques which automatically will help with cricket as well. They can also choke out suryakumar if he tries anymore funky business from here on out.

 

[BouncerGuy]

These camps are just khana poori.... I see not real change in the team or players after these kind of camps

 

[The Bald Eagle]

The NCA white-ball camp is underway in Lahore.

On the final day of the camp, players are participating in a One-Day practice match at the Gaddafi Stadium.

NCA coaches and coaches of the national men's white-ball team are assessing the players' performances.

During the white-ball camp, players participated in practice sessions, practice matches, and match-scenario sessions.

One-on-one sessions were also held with the coaches during the camp to improve the players' skills and performance.

A total of 28 players participated in the white-ball camp.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

The NCA white-ball camp is underway in Lahore.

On the final day of the camp, players are participating in a One-Day practice match at the Gaddafi Stadium.

NCA coaches and coaches of the national men's white-ball team are assessing the players' performances.

During the white-ball camp, players participated in practice sessions, practice matches, and match-scenario sessions.

One-on-one sessions were also held with the coaches during the camp to improve the players' skills and performance.

A total of 28 players participated in the white-ball camp.

Yeh tau shuro honay say pehlay hi khatm ho gaya

 

[TeymurBlake]

Not sure what haider ali and naseem shah are doing here... Crap

Same. Was thinking why Shadab & Haider are doing there?

 

[TeymurBlake]

Good to see, Pakistan moving on from M.Nawaz & bringing in Arafat Minhas. Hamza Nazar's domestic number are appalling, whereas M.Faiq isn't international level yet. Kamran Ghulam must have done something to be ignored consistently. Hunain Shah had a good PSL & now could make his international debut in 50 overs cricket.

But there are some good names in this camp. Mehran Mumtaz, Sufiyaan Muqeem, Akif Javed & Ahmed Daniyal are good bowlers.

 

[TeymurBlake]

I would have liked to see some players picked in this camp such as Abbas Afridi, Mohammad Wasim Jnr, Hassan Nawaz, Hussain Talat, Kamran Ghulam, Jahandad Khan & some others.