New Zealand v India | 2nd ODI | Wellington | 6/3/09

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New Zealand squad

DL Vettori, NT Broom, IG Butler, GD Elliott, MJ Guptill, BB McCullum, PD McGlashan, KD Mills, IE O'Brien, JDP Oram, JD Ryder, TG Southee, LRPL Taylor


India squad

MS Dhoni, G Gambhir, Harbhajan Singh, KD Karthik, Z Khan, P Kumar, PP Ojha, MM Patel, IK Pathan, YK Pathan, SK Raina, V Sehwag, I Sharma, RG Sharma, SR Tendulkar, Yuvraj Singh

India lead 5 match series 1-0
 
"If we don't lose wickets early,we can easily score 300 in every game [of this series]. New ball is important for us. In the last game we scored 273 off 38 overs, we could have gone on to 350-360 if it had been a 50-over game. Our batting is our strength, and if we can play the new ball well we invariably manage 280-290 at least.
Sehwag echoes a confident India"

Source cricinfo - Confidence by Veero!
 
Wellington's going to be a whole different ball-game compared to Napier.

Will be a real test for the inexperienced Indian middle order.
 
At a glance , the new zealand team looks rubbish, surprised they beat india in t20s
 
hussein said:
At a glance , the new zealand team looks rubbish, surprised they beat india in t20s

I dont think so. They played really well. I have been watching for the past few months or so. they have been really playing well atleast in ODIs. Last match it was becos of she-wag and rani india scored over 270 and ball was swinging when NZ batted.
 
NZ is a decent side. It is not easy to beat them in their own den. In the last 9 years or so they never lost a home series to any team except against Australia. They have incredible batting depth. Also it is a good fielding side. Once Mills get his act right they will pose serious problems. He was a disappointment last match.
 
adeelakram76 said:
I dont think so. They played really well. I have been watching for the past few months or so. they have been really playing well atleast in ODIs. Last match it was becos of she-wag and rani india scored over 270 and ball was swinging when NZ batted.

New Zealand are always a competitive ODI side, they had a bit of drop recently when Fleming, Astle, McMillan retired. But they have found some new blood.

For all Indian talk, they are 3rd in the world at ODI cricket and NZ are 4th. It is in Test cricket the lack of depth in New Zealand cricket which shows.

Where is Ironman? Sehwag's comments not demonstrate a bit of arrogance?
 
If Sehwag goes early, then NZ will win... if he doesn't they will lose. For me it's as simple as that these days.
 
kingusama92 said:
If Sehwag goes early, then NZ will win... if he doesn't they will lose. For me it's as simple as that these days.


I dont think so. India got too many hard hitters, if shewag goes early, yuvraj wud click, if yuvraj and shewag go early, pathan wud score quickly. chances of shewag, yuvraj and pathan to fail is very less. thats why they have won lot of matches in the recent past. wish we had a batting line up like india. Although I would like NZ to win this game, chances of that happening is very less IMHO. NZ has to play their best game to beat this team. Lets see how it goes.
 
kingusama92 said:
If Sehwag goes early, then NZ will win... if he doesn't they will lose. For me it's as simple as that these days.

i dont think we have ever been dependent on Sehwag in ODI's !
 
jusarrived said:
i dont think we have ever been dependent on Sehwag in ODI's !

It's my personal thought that's all. I feel that India do great when he fires and they tend to only lose when he gets out under 10.

You may not agree, but the Indian batting lineup expects him to spank the opening bowlers around to get them started. The middle order tends to go into a shell if he doesn't. Although I must admit with Gambhir there, they are not as dependent on him as they would be without Gambhir.
 
Random Aussie said:
New Zealand are always a competitive ODI side, they had a bit of drop recently when Fleming, Astle, McMillan retired. But they have found some new blood.

For all Indian talk, they are 3rd in the world at ODI cricket and NZ are 4th. It is in Test cricket the lack of depth in New Zealand cricket which shows.

Where is Ironman? Sehwag's comments not demonstrate a bit of arrogance?

thats how he talks , and what hes said is true ...this team can score 300+ 8 out of 10 times

agree about NZ side , T20 loss wasnt really surprising for me ...we will probably win ODI's , but it wont be easy ....some of their youngsters are very talented , only that they havent yet learnt to build an innings and get big scores which could be the difference in the end !
 
kingusama92 said:
It's my personal thought that's all. I feel that India do great when he fires and they tend to only lose when he gets out under 10.

You may not agree, but the Indian batting lineup expects him to spank the opening bowlers around to get them started. The middle order tends to go into a shell if he doesn't. Although I must admit with Gambhir there, they are not as dependent on him as they would be without Gambhir.


thats in the tests dude , but ODI's you see our batsmen attacking even loosing 3-4 wickets early ...Yuvi is a more reliable player than Shewag in ODI's , though shewags been quite consistent lately !
 
Random Aussie said:
Where is Ironman? Sehwag's comments not demonstrate a bit of arrogance?

Sehwag has been like this since he made his debut. Once he criticized his own team mates Dravid, Tendulkar for not trying to win a Test in a syndicated column. He just speaks what he thinks. If you call that arrogance. Power to him. He is an unique personality. What do you expect him to say. "NZ have incredible bowlers.. we will get bowled out for 10 runs if we are lucky".
 
Oram is due in this series , quite capable of winning a match on his own ...!
 
Dhoni defied odds in the last match. I thought he screwed up big time when he elected to field. Raina, Sehwag and himself put up good performance. Once again i will be skeptical if INdia bats first.
 
IronMan2009 said:
Dhoni defied odds in the last match. I thought he screwed up big time when he elected to field. Raina, Sehwag and himself put up good performance. Once again i will be skeptical if INdia bats first.
Somehow that doesn't add up with the rest of the post?

Why be skeptical with a team as well-balanced as ours? :)
 
invincible said:
Somehow that doesn't add up with the rest of the post?

Why be skeptical with a team as well-balanced as ours? :)

No.. Newzealanders are extremely good chasers. If you look back few series you could see they chased down totals like 340, 330 with ridiculous ease. Even last year when England made 340, NZ responded with 340.
 
Random Aussie said:
New Zealand are always a competitive ODI side, they had a bit of drop recently when Fleming, Astle, McMillan retired. But they have found some new blood.

For all Indian talk, they are 3rd in the world at ODI cricket and NZ are 4th. It is in Test cricket the lack of depth in New Zealand cricket which shows.

Where is Ironman? Sehwag's comments not demonstrate a bit of arrogance?



Arrogance >? what arrogance ? We only scored 278 off 38 overs last game and if we dont lose wickets early I dont see why we shouldnt score 300.. Its not like he predicted a 3-0 whitewash before a test series like someone in the past, have a guess who ?
 
I hope Zaheer Khan plays as he will be the key to the success of India and World cricket. A beautiful cricketer. I hope they announce the team soon
 
IronMan2009 said:
Sehwag has been like this since he made his debut. Once he criticized his own team mates Dravid, Tendulkar for not trying to win a Test in a syndicated column. He just speaks what he thinks. If you call that arrogance. Power to him. He is an unique personality. What do you expect him to say. "NZ have incredible bowlers.. we will get bowled out for 10 runs if we are lucky".

You never ever front up and accept something do you?

Never can you just say I was wrong or I am sorry or yes you are right.

Always you deflect and keep trying to argue some other point instead of answering simple questions. He is "unique personality" that is like when they say George Bush has not the highest IQ but he has amazing EQ.

Bah, so Ponting saying Warner will push for a place in team is arrogance but Sehwag saying we will score 300 or more all the time is not arrogance. You are completely full of bakwaas.
 
Actually punter's comment about Warner was in response to Indian players in general being called arrogant. Your player are arrogant. Our players are arrogant. What are you trying to prove here? How exactly it affects your persona life :p
 
IronMan2009 said:
Actually punter's comment about Warner was in response to Indian players in general being called arrogant. Your player are arrogant. Our players are arrogant. What are you trying to prove here? How exactly it affects your persona life :p

Hypocrisy and bias irriate me, that's why I hate on Indian fans.

And once again you can't just directly answer something.
 
Random Aussie said:
Hypocrisy and bias irriate me, that's why I hate on Indian fans.

And once again you can't just directly answer something.

Actually since you called Indians arrogant.. then Indians responded. You are the hypocrite here.
 
Random Aussie said:
Hypocrisy and bias irriate me, that's why I hate on Indian fans.

And once again you can't just directly answer something.


Wow, words of wisdom from an aussie supporter who has no complaints about NZ wickets where batsmen could barely make a 100 in an innings but says the pitch is doctored when a team loses from 150/1 on an Indian wicket.... :)))
 
IronMan2009 said:
Actually since you called Indians arrogant.. then Indians responded. You are the hypocrite here.

Whatever, obviously can't have discussions with you. Do you even know what hypocrite means?

Not just me either, Monsee has been pulling you up on this too for the same reason.
 
Romali_rotti said:
Wow, words of wisdom from an aussie supporter who has no complaints about NZ wickets where batsmen could barely make a 100 in an innings but says the pitch is doctored when a team loses from 150/1 on an Indian wicket.... :)))

:D
 
I hope they left a blade of grass at 7, 5.145 and 2.3 meters each for Zaheer to spot and target
 
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Random Aussie said:
Whatever, obviously can't have discussions with you. Do you even know what hypocrite means?

Not just me either, Monsee has been pulling you up on this too for the same reason.

It's boring to talk about an useless topic like this. So let it go and enjoy the game. Root for Kiwis. We want to win :)
 
12thMan said:
I hope they left a blade of grass at 7, 5.145 and 2.3 meters each for Zaheer to spot and target

ACtually Praveen was more dangerous last match. He was swinging the the ball bothways. McCullum couldn't pick for a while. Eventually mistimed an outswinger pitched on the leg. I am sure they will come out with a plan for him.
 
Again batting first !.. for me it is fine.. i can go to bed after watching the match. But hope they don't aim for too big a total and collapse.
 
Random Aussie said:
Dhoni has luck like Steve Waugh with the toss. Goes a long way to making successful captain.


of the 47 matches as captain , i think hes won 24 toss ..!
 
jusarrived said:
of the 47 matches as captain , i think hes won 24 toss ..!

Well he must have had awful luck before the last 6 months because he won 3 out of 4 against us and then 4 out of 5 against Sri Lanka and now 2 out of 2 against NZ.
 
wow. Bhajji really got his doosras going last match. Hope he uses it sparingly.
 
OH NO! India is batting first!

They probably going to bat NZ out of the game, just like they did at Napiur in the first game! India's batting line-up is just far too strong and if the pitch is a good batting track then expect India to score big, 300+
 
Random Aussie said:
Well he must have had awful luck before the last 6 months because he won 3 out of 4 against us and then 4 out of 5 against Sri Lanka and now 2 out of 2 against NZ.

probably , thats the reason i checked during SL series , looks even for now !
 
I think this time around their bowling performance will be much better. Mills is their best bowler. So it was just an off day for him.
 
Random Aussie said:
Whatever, obviously can't have discussions with you. Do you even know what hypocrite means?

Not just me either, Monsee has been pulling you up on this too for the same reason.[/QUOTE]


Monsee will pull up or jump on anyside provided that side is going against anything that is 'Indian' :D...


P.S.. Monseee, goo easyy we love you still :D...
 
why is it quite here? did someone get out and a 5 min silence being observed?
 
Sehwag with 4 fours in over. He is something special

current career figures including this match
Sehwag 202 matches 6399 runs 33.85 average
Tendulkar 424 matches 16468 runs 43.91 average
 
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lol my mistake , it was 16 of 5 balls ...its difficult to keep count when hes batting !
 
Sehwag gets to majical 6400 ODI runs and retains strike
Sehwag 30(20) Tendu 9(16)
India 40-0 after 6 overs at 40/6 RR
 
Tendu must be closing on to a century so slowed down. Plus conditions can be bad too

Sehwag with SIX and FOUR

7.1 O'Brien to Sehwag, FOUR, He goes again. It was slightly short of length, coming in towards the off stump, Sehwag swivelled around to pull it high and over midwicket.

7.2 O'Brien to Sehwag, SIX, Oh that was hit real hard. Another shortish delivery and Sehwag pulls it to the midwicket boundary. "That's too short again," says Stephen Fleming on air.

Sehwag 42(26) - Tendulkar 10(22)
India 53-0 after 8 overs @6.62
 
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Not out. It didn't touch the bat. Since pad was right behind the bat umpire gave him out. Too bad. He could have given that to Tendulkar :(
 
lbw seems a better shout than caught behind. certainly didn't hit the bat, gambir in, powerplay taken
 
oh no Sehwag out last over

12.3 Butler to Sehwag, OUT, shout for a catch behind decision and it's been given. Sehwag shakes his head as he walks off. Not happy at all. It cut in towards the middle stump from short of length, Sehwag was on the hop, trying to work the ball to the on side and the ball clipped the flap of the pad. Did it hit the bat as well? Sehwag doesn't think so. Anyway that's that. Gautam has walked in.HOT spot says there was no bat involved in that.

V Sehwag c McGlashan b Butler 54 (36b 9x4 1x6) SR: 150.00

Gambir 3(3) Tendulkar 21(41)
India 81-1 after 12.2 overs
 
Snicko & Hotspot confirmed there was a daylight between bat and ball. Such an entertaining
innings was curtailed.
 
Poor India robbed again by the umpires, where's the plane?

1/96 Tendulkar putting down the accelerator after being dropped
 
Random Aussie said:
Poor India robbed again by the umpires, where's the plane?

1/96 Tendulkar putting down the accelerator after being dropped

:)))

That bit cracked me up.
 
Rain has stopped play. Rudi snatches the ball and says let's get off from here. That's that. The players rush to the pavilion.

Tendi 59(62) Ghambir 13(16)
Current partnership 54 runs, 6.3 overs, RR: 8.30 (Tendulkar 40, Gambhir 13)
India 1301-1 after 19 overs @ 6.84
 
Random Aussie said:
Poor India robbed again by the umpires, where's the plane?

1/96 Tendulkar putting down the accelerator after being dropped
Naa, a wrong decision here and there is always acceptable. It was daylight robbery by Bucknor which annoyed us.
 
Random Aussie said:
He is starting to remind me of Ranatunga.

Well rain stops play - what a surprise.
Warne till this day is sore at Ranatunga, and that's precisely one of the factors.
 
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