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"No matter how much criticism I get, I think you need to give players a proper chance" : Misbah

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"No matter how much criticism I get, I think you need to give players a proper chance" : Misbah

Misbah at a presser today:

"After yesterday's match, people are saying a lot of things about the team we played and what happened in the match. One thing I will say is that when SL came, everyone was saying to rest main players, play new players, it's their 2nd team etc. And after one match where we tried a bit of our bench strength and lost the match, no doubt we played poor cricket, there is a panicked situation. I think when we try something and look to the future, like we're looking to the World Cup, we need to find the answers to some questions and this type of a situation can be created. We're very clear about how we want to go forward and how we want to give chances to players, and we're trying to find answers to those questions"

"When you make changes to a set team then it does make a difference to performances but that's no excuse. I think the players we played yesterday are equally good. Some are making a comeback so there can be pressure. But the belief is that these players can do well against any opposition and win games. SL played good cricket and we made mistakes which is why we lost"

"We will try to give a proper chance to players (Ahmed Shehzad and Umar Akmal), when we take decisions we obviously have some future planning in mind. We look to where we need players going forward or where we can fit in someone. That's the main objective, you also try to win but I think that in the lead up to the World Cup, we will try to explore with players that we need"

"People are thinking that Fakhar has been dropped. He was completely out of form and wasn't scoring but we played him in the ODIs. The thinking was that if we want to give him rest then he should still be given confidence and allowed to perform then we check the others. So we haven't benched him for T20Is, who benches an in-form batsman? Ahmed Shehzad had performed well in PSL so we thought we should give him a chance. So we want to try and get these other players to perform so that the team is confident. When all your batsmen are performing then only you can beat big teams. You shouldn't be over reliant on players"

"Iftikhar Ahmed and Umar Akmal have been brought in the team so that we have some power in the team. When you try out something then you need to have some patience and you shouldn't be so harsh on players, that you give judgement after one innings. If you look at Umar Akmal's performance, over the last year everyone was asking why he didn't get a chance because he scored runs in every format in domestic cricket. So if you bring someone on the basis of that and then after one match you press the panic button and say see what he did 8 years ago etc., I think that's unfair"

"Fielding has been a weak link for us in Karachi also, we are working hard on it. Yesterday's fielding was a lot better than Karachi, there was improvement specially in ground fielding. There was a dropped chance and we need to keep improving and putting in effort"

"Hopefully there is a big crowd for the games, it's not the weekend but people should come to enjoy the games, it's not often that we have international cricket in Pakistan"

"With regards to Ahmed Shehzad, I will try with every player to be fair and to give proper chances so that they know they have been given a fair chance before any decision was taken about them. No matter how much criticism I get, I think you need to give players a proper chance"

"There was a lot of dew, it was like dipping a ball in a bucket. Surprisingly, despite the dew, batting wasn't easy. If you lose 3 wickets in the powerplay this can happen, generally a wet ball favours the batting side. After one hour the conditions are as though it has rained"

"The 16 player squad you have, you have to think of them as the best and you need to rate them. Whichever 11 you pick, you should think you can win the match. We try to win matches but we shouldn't press the panic button and start ringing the changes. These players can perform for Pakistan going forward and win matches"

"No matter how big a player you are, whenever you make a comeback after a long time out from international cricket, no matter the opposition, there is pressure on you and it takes time to recover from that. Sarfaraz is under pressure but as a coach and management team, I try to support him as much as possible so he plays his natural game and the same for the other players. Pressure doesn't help, in T20Is you need to express yourself. I am remaining positive and I am hopeful that the same goes for the players and we do well in the match tomorrow. Whenever you lose as a #1 team it hurts and I think everyone felt that, we will try to make sure the outcome is different"

"If you look at T20 stats, more than 80% of the matches are won in the powerplay. It's rare that you lose the powerplay and then win the match. So that went badly for us"

"Babar Azam is the #1 player and I personally think that your best player should play the maximum number of overs in T20Is so that you can put pressure on the other team. We were looking at Ahmed Shehzad for opening or #3 because we need players here then we thought that since Fakhar has scored, we can give him a break and try Ahmed and also Umar. We will try to make changes wherever needed"

"At the moment, it looks like 80-90% we're playing against Gunathilaka. In the ODI series also it was the same. It's bound to happen with us when we play against SL, sometimes it's Sangakkara and now Gunathilaka. I am pretty impressed by their bowling, their wrist spinners bowled really well with a wet ball. Shanaka also with the bat. Overall it's a good young unit"

"We are hoping that Test cricket also returns to Pakistan. Confidence for SL will be built by this tour and they will get a lot of reassurance. The agencies and the board have done a fantastic job and there is no sign of compromise at all in terms of security. Hopefully there will be Test cricket in Pakistan"
 
Sensible comments by Misbah. We should give Umar and Shehzad the rest of the series ti play and to prove themselves - if they don't, dump them forever.
 
Umar Akmal have 83 chances in T20s and 121 chances in ODIs so far. All together akmal has 204 chances in limited overs format.

Ahmed Shezad have 58 chances in T20s and 81 chances in ODIs.

Please let us know how many more chances they need.
 
Both these guys have played 50+ matches in T20Is.

Overall they have both played 150+ matches for Pakistan.

And one of them, Umar Akmal, doesn't seem to have the proper fitness as well.
 
I’m all for giving players consistent chances BUT not for tried and tested failures who have done nothing special to be given another chance.
 
Umar Akmal brings “power” to the team.
Honestly what is this guy smoking?
 
Makes sense. Abid Ali is still a better opener in all formats than Ahmad Shahzad however.
 
Yes close to a decade of these guys in LOI (continually from 2010-2016) and we haven’t given poor Shezzy and Umar proper chances yet. :facepalm:

Congrats everyone!
 
Saying the right things.

Picking the wrong players.

Giving the wrong players too many chances.
 
Ahmed Shehzad had performed well in PSL so we thought we should give him a chance.
Don't repeat the mistake of your predecessor by relying on a mediocre T20 league.

We already have a big enough sample size of international failures from Shehzad and Akmal.
 
We are back in 2015. He will give chance to these tried and tested players till they score a 40 or 50 and then Mr. Misbah will say "See I told you they have performed." You guys can expect these TTFs to carry on playing for 1-2 years on the basis of that single innings.
 
Have a feeling he is already starting to become arrogant rather than admitting he's making the wrong moves. He still hasn't explained why younger domestic batsmen were not tested as bench strength and instead experienced mediocre players were preferred?
 
Umar Akmal have 83 chances in T20s and 121 chances in ODIs so far. All together akmal has 204 chances in limited overs format.

Ahmed Shezad have 58 chances in T20s and 81 chances in ODIs.

Please let us know how many more chances they need.
So you’re equating every match to a chance and assuming every match has been a failure. Thus 100% failure? Great logic.
 
This would make sense if it were about a debutante fresh into his international career, not about 2 failures given literally hundreds of chances
 
Misbah is good with his words. If you did not know who Ahmad Shehzad and Umar Akmal were you would easily fall for his statements. The guy tries to speak sense when his opinions are senseless. Knowing him though he will remain persistent with these TTF players. All this talk of new players. What new players? All these are players we have seen before. If this was not the same failures we saw on the international stage I doubt we would be complaining. But of course Mr.Cricket will act like he knows what he’s doing to fool his fans.
 
Misbah again trying to pull the wool over our eyes. I’m not buying it but sadly some will still fall for it.
 
Look I don't mind players being given a proper chance, but when players have played nearly 400 matches between them and have nothing to offer, then why give them more chances?
 
Shehzad and Akmal have gotten numerous chances for literally a decade with various coaches at the helm. They are what they are at this point, which is mediocre underwhelming players.

If we're talking about giving players a chance, then why isn't someone like Saud or Khushdil being given proper chances?
 
Shehzad has surpassed Mohammad Sami and Fernando in comebacks. He needs to go if anyone wants to take Misbah seriously.
 
to be honest, this is very fishy.

Misbah would never pick Umar Akmal or Shezad. Forget picking them in Pakistan, misbah would never pick these two for any of his domestic team.

So why this? Either it was a dumb move by him, or he is trying to prove a point here. Forcing them to play and hoping they would fail and be able to discard them for good forever and never have to deal with them again.

I hope the last part is true, but if Misbah is experimenting than it is the wrong move. You cant experiment players at international level.

I think misbah is trying too hard as a selector, needs to be in his senses
 
to be honest, this is very fishy.

Misbah would never pick Umar Akmal or Shezad. Forget picking them in Pakistan, misbah would never pick these two for any of his domestic team.

So why this? Either it was a dumb move by him, or he is trying to prove a point here. Forcing them to play and hoping they would fail and be able to discard them for good forever and never have to deal with them again.

I hope the last part is true, but if Misbah is experimenting than it is the wrong move. You cant experiment players at international level.

I think misbah is trying too hard as a selector, needs to be in his senses
Damn Misbah must have really messed up for [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] to have a go at his hero :))

I would like to believe Misbah is ending their careers here and now. There is no sense in recalling these two idiots.
 
Damn Misbah must have really messed up for [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] to have a go at his hero :))

I would like to believe Misbah is ending their careers here and now. There is no sense in recalling these two idiots.

i was quite surprised when he called them up, and was assuming ok, misbah knows what he is doing soo lets see. But the first t20 was just awful..

One thing i have always mentioned here is that you can call him tuk tuk or watever, but he does have an eye for players.

Thus i am still surprised by the 2 picks he has made. Even Asif Ali shouldnt had been played if Iftikhar was going to be tried out.

I would assume he has gone abit crazy here and not thinking straight. Probably has in his mind that oh i need to be fair and give chances and prove myself to awaam that i gave them a chance.
He is only ruining his own record as a coach/selector by experimenting. If you want to experiment, experiement with new players or like how he experimented with Iftikhar. Even if he wants to experiment with Umar Akmal, than let him perform in a domestic game first.

I am just hoping he picked those two just to drop them, i really do.
 
Maybe give Fawad Alam a chance or Rizwan not to mention Zafar Gohar ... I mean the list goes on. Junaid Khan, Abid Ali!
 
Sensible comments by Misbah. We should give Umar and Shehzad the rest of the series ti play and to prove themselves - if they don't, dump them forever.

dump them forever... till next year when they should be given another full series to prove themselves, after which they can be dumped forever, till the following year of-course
 
Damn Misbah must have really messed up for [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] to have a go at his hero :))

I would like to believe Misbah is ending their careers here and now. There is no sense in recalling these two idiots.

Lol you want to play this trick against a B side...lol
 
Lol you want to play this trick against a B side...lol
I would like to believe it, but won't be surprised if Misbah decides to give these two clowns a few more chances going further.

Just sick of all the "but, but they have so much talent" rubbish we have had to put up with for ten years now. Its unbelievable these two still have fans left.
 
which new faces was misbah playing that we need to give them a fair chance?

umar akmal and shezad made their debuts a decade ago and have played 100s of games between them...
 
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I’m not a fan of either Shehzad and Akmal. But now that they have been recalled it makes no sense to dump them after one game . I know they both have played a large number of games for Pak , but that was in the past . They have to be judged on this opportunity. They should have a lower ceiling now compared to to others who have never been selected but they still should be given the three games .

The main thing is Misbah uses this approach for all the others selected as well and gives them a fair enough run .
 
No matter how much you can hate these two. There is no doubt that they performed in the domestic circuit so they need a chance.

You can merit out system providing them this opportunity again. Bring better talent and this won't be a problem.

I have been following Shehzad on instagram and he does look like someone who has tapered down his shenanigans and looks more fitter than before. I think he is someone who deserves a shot atleast. We will find out more from the following games
 
One thing i have always mentioned here is that you can call him tuk tuk or watever, but he does have an eye for players.

This here is wrong and will continue to be wrong. Even if I don’t prove it his coaching stint will. What you see from Misbah is the real him. This version is what most who dislike him saw. So while to a guy like you its a shock its not for me.
 
Delighted at Misbah keeping a cool calm composed demeanor with Shehzad and Umar Akmal. It is criminal to give up on such world class talents
 
Look I don't mind players being given a proper chance, but when players have played nearly 400 matches between them and have nothing to offer, then why give them more chances?

Marvan Attapatu was a failure, Rohit Sharma was a failure in his first few years but continous faith and backing and they started repaying the faith big time. Must show the same level of patience with Shehzad and Umar Akmal
 
Looks like Misbah is opening the door of mediocre and TTF oldies.

Soon we wills see:::
Kamran
S Butt
S Tanvir
Zulfi (Good but too old)
Shafiq
Azhar
Razzak (Not retired yet)
I Nazir
M Sami
Gul
S Ansari
Imran Khan.......

Since there is no one above him so he doesn't feel pressured to do right thing. He will not leave until he destroy Pakistan cricket. Soon we will be worse than Zimbabwe. May God save our cricket from this guy.
 
Marvan Attapatu was a failure, Rohit Sharma was a failure in his first few years but continous faith and backing and they started repaying the faith big time. Must show the same level of patience with Shehzad and Umar Akmal

Compare Rohit with Shehzad/Umar is really really poor. Rohit is better than any of our batsmen we have produced till now.
 
Haven't they already been given enough chances. There are already better players in the national side, why replace better players, who have actually won matches for us, with these TTFs.
 
Marvan Attapatu was a failure, Rohit Sharma was a failure in his first few years but continous faith and backing and they started repaying the faith big time. Must show the same level of patience with Shehzad and Umar Akmal
There is a difference between few years of failure and a decade of failure isn't it?
 
Marvan Attapatu was a failure, Rohit Sharma was a failure in his first few years but continous faith and backing and they started repaying the faith big time. Must show the same level of patience with Shehzad and Umar Akmal

It would make sense to try khush dil shah, umair bin yousuf or Haider ali for few years even if they fail they all are really talented if you see their technique and power game.
 
Marvan Attapatu was a failure, Rohit Sharma was a failure in his first few years but continous faith and backing and they started repaying the faith big time. Must show the same level of patience with Shehzad and Umar Akmal

So the odds are like 1 out of 1000 players. Since 999 players do actually fail in their careers.
 
Did not expect this from Misbah. Terrible mindset. I mean how on he has played so much white ball cricket with these 2 and prime experience being the CWC 2015. Both failed so many times. They made their debuts like 10 years ago!

A top 3 with these 2 makes we feel like throwing up. I had 0 interest in the game on Saturday and was not surprised with the result.

As a fan this one is very hard to take.
 
As usual him and Sarfraz support oldies and TTFs. Some one should ask him why his attitude is not same about new young players.
 
Since no one is above him so his job is secure which make him "I will do whatever I want, I will choose whom I want, I will drop whomever I don't like, if you have power than stop me" attitude.
 
First time I'm hearing the logic that Misbah is trying to end the careers of Shehzad and Akmal by selecting them. Most normal countries drop players if they want to end their careers.


Basically Misbah fans will twist and turn every fact and logic to suit their agenda. Heck if these TTFs had performed these same fans would be jumping up and down about Misbah's master stroke.
 
First time I'm hearing the logic that Misbah is trying to end the careers of Shehzad and Akmal by selecting them. Most normal countries drop players if they want to end their careers.


Basically Misbah fans will twist and turn every fact and logic to suit their agenda. Heck if these TTFs had performed these same fans would be jumping up and down about Misbah's master stroke.

Most likely Misbah wants them for 2020 and 2023 World Cup.
 
First time I'm hearing the logic that Misbah is trying to end the careers of Shehzad and Akmal by selecting them. Most normal countries drop players if they want to end their careers.


Basically Misbah fans will twist and turn every fact and logic to suit their agenda. Heck if these TTFs had performed these same fans would be jumping up and down about Misbah's master stroke.

there was no pressure to bring Shehzad and Akmal back, no one in Pakistan wanted them to play international cricket again.
Their careers were already ended!!

pretty stupid logic to say they are selected against Sri Lanka B team just so they can fail and be dropped again
 
This misbah guy is rubbish always was and will always be.

He didn't even make it as a captain on merit.

Had it not been for the spot fixing scandal he would have been nowhere near the Pakistan team
 
Coach needs to be given time too - at least 18 months to 2 years imo. Misbah will eventually come good.
 
Oh Misbah!

Should have stayed away from the selection process.

Shehzad, Akmals and Sarfi shouldn't play for Pakistan ever again.

Sharam karo Misbah.
 
Look I don't mind players being given a proper chance, but when players have played nearly 400 matches between them and have nothing to offer, then why give them more chances?

Exactly yet these blind Umar Akmal supporters believe he has still not had enough chances
 
Saying the right things.

Picking the wrong players.

Giving the wrong players too many chances.

Is that new, didnt he do that when he was the captain for 4 years and still fail build a team for the CWC....

He gave chances to asad , azhar, myk, etc then played haris, maqsood, sarfraz in the top order in the CWC...

He is a slow learner and the person who will hesitate more than an ordinary man to make changes out of fear..
 
Oh Misbah!

Should have stayed away from the selection process.

Shehzad, Akmals and Sarfi shouldn't play for Pakistan ever again.

Sharam karo Misbah.

good he became the selector and people realize in such a short notice how rubbish he is..

no eye for talent, never want to try new players, fear to make any changes... he is a big loser...
 
First time I'm hearing the logic that Misbah is trying to end the careers of Shehzad and Akmal by selecting them. Most normal countries drop players if they want to end their careers.


Basically Misbah fans will twist and turn every fact and logic to suit their agenda. Heck if these TTFs had performed these same fans would be jumping up and down about Misbah's master stroke.

True.. MA and Inzi made sure their careers had no light as it deserved to be due to their fitness, poor form, not playing the modern game...
 
Misbah will not go anywhere in next 3-5 years for sure. We have to bear the suffering. He is not responsible to answer anything and will get away whatever he wants. Because he is desi coach he will have big backup from every sector inside and outside PCB.
I will not be surprised if he keeps same squad for T20 World Cup after loosing most of the matches by then
 
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