"No ties with Pakistan until cross-border terrorism ends" : Gautam Gambhir

[Abdullah719]

NEW DELHI: Recently recalled Test opener Gautam Gambhir+ has joined the chorus of strong opposition to ties between India and Pakistan on all fronts, claiming that India should have nothing to do with its neighboring country until cross-border terrorism is eliminated.

"I absolutely endorse that we should have no ties with Pakistan until the time this cross-border terrorism finishes, because I feel that people absolutely need to put themselves in the shoes of those who've lost their kids, someone who's lost their father, son or husband," Gambhir told Times Now on Tuesday.

"Obviously I can say this sitting in an AC room, that we should not play or whatever, that cricket should not be compared with politics, Bollywood should not be compared with politics, but people who've lost their loved ones obviously feel ... if you ask them, you'll get the answer.

"So I totally endorse that until the time we don't secure our own Indians, our own countrymen, all other things can be kept aside. I totally ensure that we should not have any relationship with Pakistan until cross-border terrorism is over," added the 35-year-old.

Gambhir's comments come a day after India's Home Minister Rajnath Singh mounted a scathing attack on Pakistan+ in which he said its entire establishment is engaged in fuelling terrorism in India making management of the Indo-Pak border "challenging" and warned that "those who breed snakes get bitten by them".

Gambhir, who made a comeback to the India Test team against New Zealand recently, is not the first Indian sportsperson to speak out on the issue of Pakistan. Viral Kohli, India's Test captain, had condemned the Uri attack+ of September 18 on an army camp which claimed the lives of 19 Indian soldiers, former opener Virender Sehwag has been sympathetic on social media, while hockey captain PR Sreejesh has vowed to beat Pakistan in the upcoming Asian Championship Trophy and dedicate the win to the country's soldiers.

Cricketing relations have been at a low between India and Pakistan since the 2008 terror attacks in Mumbai, which resulted in Pakistan being the only major Test nation without representation in the now defunct Champions League Twenty20 [which was organised by the Indian, South African and Australian boards] and the IPL, much to the Pakistan Cricket Board's dissatisfaction.

India were due to tour Pakistan in January 2009 but that series was cancelled following the 26/11 attacks. Another scheduled series in March-April 2012 was also cancelled after the Indian government did not clear it, and in its place the Asia Cup was held in Bangladesh. Since then, India and Pakistan have met only in a short limited-overs series in 2012-13 in India and in tri-series, ICC events and the Asia Cup.

In ODIs, they last met during the 2015 ICC World Cup when MS Dhoni's defending champions won by 76 runs in Adelaide. In T20Is, the two teams met twice this year, with India winning on both occasions - during the Asia Cup in Dhaka and ICC World Twenty20 in Kolkata. India and Pakistan have not played Test cricket against each other since December 2007.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-ends-Gautam-Gambhir/articleshow/54916934.cms

 

[Monsee]

As if they were having ties with us before...what is interesting is none of Pak players have ever said similar stuff (going by my memory only on this), yet Indian players feel happy to jump on such band wagon from time to time!

For the terrorism angle, first let both the govts stop messing with each other, it is not as if Indian govt is like a new born baby with no sins what-so-ever

 

[Hawkeye]

Such kind of news and rhetoric actually gives the impression Pak really is involved in something.

That isn't really true and it isn't simple. A lot is going on in Kshmer and it's being silenced, even the Indians don't know about it and don't like to speak for the cause.

So, I think pp shouldn't allow such biased one sided propaganda here.

 

[Zohaib Shah]

If we go by Gambhir's logic than we should stop playing sports all together since there are people out there suffering without a mother or a father. Heck why is India playing cricket in the first place when it should focus on its country?

 

[street cricketer]

As if they were having ties with us before...what is interesting is none of Pak players have ever said similar stuff (going by my memory only on this), yet Indian players feel happy to jump on such band wagon from time to time!

For the terrorism angle, first let both the govts stop messing with each other, it is not as if Indian govt is like a new born baby with no sins what-so-ever

Javed sahab has added his input as well.

 

[saeed5646]

One should argue is he saying this to have a public pressure on Indian selectors to not dropped him from

The team

 

[badsha001]

pak should not have any social or economic ties with India until they stop funding their troll armies (yes armies not an army). Its getting ridiculous seeing these Indians come and troll wherever they can and it makes it hard to filter out good Indians.

 

[Monsee]

Javed sahab has added his input as well.

So, same Javed who went and sat smilingly right next to the chief Anti Pakistan culprit aka Bal Thackery, is that the best you could find?

There have been multiple Indian players saying similar things in the past, how about you show me a better example than Miandad from amongst Pak players?

 

[Anwar_194]

One of the sick minded player, waiting to see him fail so he can be kicked out forever, I cant recall any other cricket ever utter garbage like he does.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Has always been anti Pak.

 

[NauV]

and what about the millions of Pakistanis that have lost their husbands and mothers and sons and family and friends . . many times as many as those affected by this than any other country . .

I can go on and on about this . . but let's not cuz this is a cricket forum . .

However, it is very easy to look into your own media and read one sided news and conclude . . If only people had the wisdom and the courage to look at both views and form conclusions . .

 

[Hawkeye]

It's the jingoists that claim to be "patriotic", however, if you analyze as a neutral, they're the ones being brainwashed by the propaganda. And then they repeat that rhetoric so it becomes endemic.

There's a lot happening in the valley and all these so called jingos have closed their eyes, becoming ignorant to that.

 

[90MPH]

Gambhir has a track record of saying anti-Pakistan stuff so this latest statement comes as no suprise.

As someone said what relations have there been between Pakistan and India ?? There has been no full tour for the past 9 years - I suggest someone tweet this news to him.

As for the neutral tournaments like champions trophy or Asia cup then most Pak fans will have no problem India boycotting them because then at least their stance is clear and not got hypocritical on when they feel like playing Pakistan.

Lastly Gambhir your country is not the only ones that are victims. Infact a 100 of your fellow Kashmiris have been killed - have you ever tweeted about their losses or the kids pumped full of pellets ? No of course you haven't.

 

[Mr.Saga]

No ties with gautum gambhir till he fixes his ears.

 

[pasha404]

Choza.pls do not play with us in ICC tournament as well

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Always been a numpty.

Being treated harshly by Lala and Kami still hurts him.

 

[Dios]

I wonder how he gets on with Wasim Akram when he is playing for KKR.

 

[Sherlock]

Oh dear... The sheer ignorance on both sides is frightening but at least the current Pakistani players don't spoke such utter drivel.

I guess it's easy to forget GG the Pakistan side of the Kashmir border has also "lost their kids, father, son and/or husband"

Such a moronic thing to say but also contradicts himself when stating we should be talking about politics and sports/bollywood.

 

[MenInG]

As if they were having ties with us before...what is interesting is none of Pak players have ever said similar stuff (going by my memory only on this), yet Indian players feel happy to jump on such band wagon from time to time!

For the terrorism angle, first let both the govts stop messing with each other, it is not as if Indian govt is like a new born baby with no sins what-so-ever

They are too busy playing cricket unlike this guy who sits on his twitter counting followers with an abacus.

 

[Ab Fan]

A bit off topic though but there we go :

Gautam Gambhir is a two world cup final hero..

Drew a test match from impossible situation away from home in Napier, New Zealand..

Leading run scorer in CB series, Australia in 2008.

Captained his IPL team KKR to 2 times victory after getting assaulted in first two tournaments.

Just recalling out some of the things he has done worth remembering.

 

[Ab Fan]

I wonder how he gets on with Wasim Akram when he is playing for KKR.

You would obviously respect a player of Wasim stature regardless of the nationality.

 

[the Great Khan]

"I absolutely endorse that we should have no ties with Pakistan until the time this cross-border terrorism finishes, because I feel that people absolutely need to put themselves in the shoes of those who've lost their kids, someone who's lost their father, son or husband," Gambhir told Times Now on Tuesday.

just wondering if an Indian can give us the numbers. because I have many more numbers on our side who have lost their lives because of his country sponsoring terrorists like Yadav.

 

[AlphaFighter]

The Harsh reality is that the Indian Economy has really quadruppled 10 times compared to Pakistan's since the 90's, the BCCI is like 50 times richer than the PCB, the Indian players are 10 times richer than the Pakistani players which just reflects in their overall attitude.

You just have to look at the body language of Indian players compared to Pakistani players when they take the field. It is literally like "You guys are very privileged to be playing against us". The IPL has had such a positive impact on Indian Cricket, just look at the quality of socializing Indian players indulge in off the field with Western players compared to our Pakistani players.

It is no surprise to see Statements from Bollywood Actors and Indian Cricketers where they consider Pakistani Artists and Pakistani Cricketers to be "Lower Class" and be avoided.

Hopefully this episode will force the PCB to find other avenues to boost Pakistan Cricket, PCB revenues by getting close to the English Cricket Board, Australian Cricket Board. Convincing the ICC to start a fund to help Pakistan Cricket was a step in the right direction.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

And who is he to decide this? He should focus on his game. Leave this cr@p talking to anurag thakur. We don't need more than 1 fool to keep embarrassing ourselves.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

A bit off topic though but there we go :

Gautam Gambhir is a two world cup final hero..

Drew a test match from impossible situation away from home in Napier, New Zealand..

Leading run scorer in CB series, Australia in 2008.

Captained his IPL team KKR to 2 times victory after getting assaulted in first two tournaments.

Just recalling out some of the things he has done worth remembering.

Good for him,good for his team.

How is this related to the post?

 

[Monsee]

Good for him,good for his team.

How is this related to the post?

It is related because this poster gets to troll us when the discussion is totally off topic...being such a big fan of Gambhir, I can see the same hypocritical tendencies as well!

 

[Rinnegan Sasuke]

Another blast from the great warrior himself, the seething courage has brought down all of our foils to the great nation Every time we send our pigeons, warrior Gambhir stands "tall" to bring them down. Lord help us. The reincarnation of Sun Tzu himself, writing the modern art of war !! We're doomed !!

 

[theariezman]

So you see current Pakistani Team as potential terrorists

You would obviously respect a player of Wasim stature regardless of the nationality.

 

[Sherlock]

As has been stated numerous times before, Cricket and Politics shouldn't ever be mixed. Unfortunately some are immune to such ignorance and stance.

What Gambhir said basically ties our sport and country with what's happening in the political World of both nations.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

I don't understand why Pakistanis are so eager to play with an overrated Indian team. There are plenty of series against England and Australia and other top sides.

 

[sshakir411]

You would obviously respect a player of Wasim stature regardless of the nationality.

wrong, Indians respect a Pakistani they can benefit from. Had Wasim not been as useful of a coach pretty sure these guys wouldn't wait 2 seconds to trash him. Typical Indian behavior...they will use anything Pakistani if it makes them better (Wasim, Fawad etc. etc.) but won't play with us even if their board agreed to because Pakistan would have some financial gain. Pathetic.

 

[Cricket-Pundit]

Says a man who already played 20+ games Vs Pak when terror was much worse.. Hypocrite!

 

[ExpressPacer]

With all due respect to Indians on PP, I've noticed that Indians are very negative and unfortunately, all this talk of them being so intelligent and mentally strong seems like bs to me now. If they cannot understand the lies that they are being fed with, then where is the intelligence? When someone like Om Puri talks sense into them and talks of PEACE, he is ridiculed and forced to plead for forgiveness hundreds and thousands of times before the media. Honestly, extremely disappointed.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Play your Cricket Man.


Politics after Retirement.

 

[KingKhanWC]

It's really sad to see cricketers spreading more hatred instead of using sport to bring people together.

Playing cricket can actually help bring the people of both countries together but Ghambir, Sehwag, Jadeja and others are too stupid to understand this.

 

[daytrader]

Being a cricketer that has travelled many parts of the world I didn't expect this from someone of his stature. What a loser mentality, hasn't learnt anything by interacting with different peoples of the World

 

[coy0607]

indian cricketers should say something about their own government for encouraging terrorism against Pakistan.

Pakistani cricketers would, indian cricketers need to be more honest with themselves!

 

[PakLFC]

I don't see Pak being at all desperate to resume any ties that Gambhir is running his mouth. What he means is that we should follow India's narrative on Kashmir, keep dreaming pal coz it will never happen. I am glad they have banned our actors from Bollywood who can now concentrate on Pak cinema. For this reason I have always supported Shaan Shahid's patriotism and support for Pak fauj. Likes of Fawad Khan and Ali Zafar need to take a good long look at themselves. We have survived without playing Cricket with them as well, will never change our stance on IOK.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

A bit off topic though but there we go :

Gautam Gambhir is a two world cup final hero..

Drew a test match from impossible situation away from home in Napier, New Zealand..

Leading run scorer in CB series, Australia in 2008.

Captained his IPL team KKR to 2 times victory after getting assaulted in first two tournaments.

Just recalling out some of the things he has done worth remembering.

A good/great cricketer doesn't necessarily have to be a good human being. Gambhir comes across as a sadist and someone who carries hate with him for life.

Pak aside, he doesn't leave a chance to take a shot at MSD. He will always be remembered for his special contributions, like you mentioned but I don't think anyone would want to have him as a role-model.

 

[Third Man]

And who is he to decide this? He should focus on his game. Leave this cr@p talking to anurag thakur. We don't need more than 1 fool to keep embarrassing ourselves.

I just wanted to tell you that I have a lot of respect for you. Not because you say things I want to hear but because you seem to be a balanced, thinking, and reflective person.

There's a general tendency these days on both sides to resort to blind jingoism at the mere mention of the "other". To remain unprejudiced and objective in such environment gets my utmost respect. We need more of this on both sides.

 

[desirous of desire]

why can't they just shut their mouth? I mean they dont want to play with Pakistan , fine but since we have no ties in terms of cricket, just forget Pak as a cricketing nation. The way they are talking gives an impression that they are reassuring themselves of their decision to not to play Pakistan as if their is slight guilt in them and they have to bring all this terrorism rhetoric to eliminate it.

But I am sure there is no guilt in them. It is just that they want to keep it a hot topic to stay in headlines and feel important.

 

[Rayyman]

I wanna see Gambhir get a golden pair in the next Test and Ashwin to get a 10-fer.

 

[PakLFC]

Playing Pak makes India more money then against anyone else. Of course it makes Pak money as well. By repeating the same mantra that "we should not play Pakistan until....." one gets the impression of them wanting the exact opposite. As I said previously we have survived and prospered by not playing India for years. No compromise on Kashmir or giving them access to Afghanistan through Pak, ever.

 

[Tusker]

With all due respect to Indians on PP, I've noticed that Indians are very negative and unfortunately, all this talk of them being so intelligent and mentally strong seems like bs to me now. If they cannot understand the lies that they are being fed with, then where is the intelligence? When someone like Om Puri talks sense into them and talks of PEACE, he is ridiculed and forced to plead for forgiveness hundreds and thousands of times before the media. Honestly, extremely disappointed.

Can you please open a thread on Timepass section that explains all the lies that Indians have been brainwashed with ... would be very curious to know. Thanks.

 

[GrandMaster]

I don't understand why PPers are so gambhir(serious) with Gambhir's statement. You will find one of a kind (a joker) in every team.

 

[ali2220]

With all due respect to Indians on PP, I've noticed that Indians are very negative and unfortunately, all this talk of them being so intelligent and mentally strong seems like bs to me now. If they cannot understand the lies that they are being fed with, then where is the intelligence? When someone like Om Puri talks sense into them and talks of PEACE, he is ridiculed and forced to plead for forgiveness hundreds and thousands of times before the media. Honestly, extremely disappointed.

Forget being negative and anti Pak, the current Indian govt is encouraging Indians to speak against Pak. The current BCCI president has been bad mouthing Pak, even though he shouldn't even be speaking on the topic, and now Gambhir.All these indiots know very well that india has not played Pak since a long time and isn't likely to play them in near future yet they are talking about it just to curse Pak.

 

[ali2220]

I don't understand why PPers are so gambhir(serious) with Gambhir's statement. You will find one of a kind (a joker) in every team.

True, but then BCCi's chief has been harsher than him, how can one ignore him?

 

[sully3]

A bit off topic though but there we go :

Gautam Gambhir is a two world cup final hero..

so are the ten other players playing that day

Drew a test match from impossible situation away from home in Napier, New Zealand..

wow, give him indian highest civilian award

Leading run scorer in CB series, Australia in 2008.

again wow what an achievement

Captained his IPL team KKR to 2 times victory after getting assaulted in first two tournaments.


Just recalling out some of the things he has done worth remembering.

the only stand out captain in IPL was Dhoni and maybe Warne in the first season

 

[Ankit007]

One should argue is he saying this to have a public pressure on Indian selectors to not dropped him from

The team

not really... that has been his stance since he wasnt in the team

 

[Abdul]

Not sure why Gambhir is being given so much importance anyway

He's a nobody and a failed cricketer who is trying to stay relevant in the media by using cheap tactics

 

[moghul]

I don;t understand this, Indian are all upset on the death of 18 soldiers, which is understandable, but if they claim Kashmir to be the "integral part of India" why they kept mum when hundreds of Kashmiri civilians were killed by the their own security forces recently.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Can someone remind this fool of his batting averages and stats when we last played in a bilateral series aka "Ane Do" Series. Was made to look like a tailender by Junaid Khan and Irfan.

Good on him to advocate no cricketing ties with Pakistan because if there ever is a bilateral series in the future, Amir, Wahab and Hassan would probably eat him for breakfast.

I sincerely hope he hits such bad form that is kicked out of the Indian team by Kohli and Ashwin and is reduced to only playing Irani Cup !!!!

 

[GrandMaster]

True, but then BCCi's chief has been harsher than him, how can one ignore him?

He is first a politician and than a BCCI chief. Being a "BJP" MP (a puppet) he need to nod his head and rhyme along with his superiors.

 

[ali2220]

He is first a politician and than a BCCI chief. Being a "BJP" MP (a puppet) he need to nod his head and rhyme along with his superiors.

But when he spoke, he was speaking as a BCCI chief.

Also, since India isn't playing Pak atall and there are no plans to play in near future, there wasn't any need to comment on it.Bottom line is, its not a case of one players being an idiot!

 

[Idrees1990]

A bit off topic though but there we go :

Gautam Gambhir is a two world cup final hero..

Drew a test match from impossible situation away from home in Napier, New Zealand..

Leading run scorer in CB series, Australia in 2008.

Captained his IPL team KKR to 2 times victory after getting assaulted in first two tournaments.

Just recalling out some of the things he has done worth remembering.

So?!?

 

[GrandMaster]

But when he spoke, he was speaking as a BCCI chief.

Also, since India isn't playing Pak atall and there are no plans to play in near future, there wasn't any need to comment on it.Bottom line is, its not a case of one players being an idiot!

No one will speak on this topic unless someone questions. It's media who keep asking this very specific question to everyone, right from cricketers to actors. These stars know how to answer such questions, they become patriotic overnight when it comes to Pakistan.

We all know what happened to Salman Khan, he lost more than a million fans overnight when he openly supported Pakistani actors. Thakur is just a politician, he will not only lose the BCCI president post but will lose the next election if he agrees to play with Pakistan.

 

[Sadevdesai]

Players from either side, past or present, should stop making such political statements, it is not helping to resolve anything !!!!!!!

 

[ali2220]

No one will speak on this topic unless someone questions. It's media who keep asking this very specific question to everyone, right from cricketers to actors. These stars know how to answer such questions, they become patriotic overnight when it comes to Pakistan.

We all know what happened to Salman Khan, he lost more than a million fans overnight when he openly supported Pakistani actors. Thakur is just a politician, he will not only lose the BCCI president post but will lose the next election if he agrees to play with Pakistan.

Again, no one is asking to play with Pak, as we all know it won't happen.Also, there are ways to answer a question, he could have handled it better but he wanted to avail the chance to bad mouth Pak.

 

[ali2220]

Players from either side, past or present, should stop making such political statements, it is not helping to resolve anything !!!!!!!

LOL!! what have Pak players done recently? Afridi talked about peace, Yasir and Misbah wanted to play india. Offensive statement is coming from one side only, too bad some ppl can't see that

 

[street cricketer]

So, same Javed who went and sat smilingly right next to the chief Anti Pakistan culprit aka Bal Thackery, is that the best you could find?

There have been multiple Indian players saying similar things in the past, how about you show me a better example than Miandad from amongst Pak players?

Gambhir is a motormouth and we have a few past players who poke into issues they shouldn't, never deny it. Miandad is the best ever batsman of Pakistan. Gambhir is nowhere compared to him. Imagine Sachin Tendulkar coming up with a statement like "We should kill all Pakistanis..", because that's what Miandad said. It's not like ex Pakistani players haven't come up with foot in the mouth statements in the past, they have given worse statements. Afridi with the small hearts statement, and guys like Tanvir and Nazir. Nobody in India took them seriously. I'm not sure why you guys take Gambhir seriously either. He regularly comes up with these kinds of poor statements which he shouldn't be giving and it's not a new thing for him. The guy has a poor social behaviour and even picks fights with his own teammates like Kohli. What do you expect?

 

[street cricketer]

It's really sad to see cricketers spreading more hatred instead of using sport to bring people together.

Playing cricket can actually help bring the people of both countries together but Ghambir, Sehwag, Jadeja and others are too stupid to understand this.

For the one hundredth time, that's a parody account. Not real Ravi Jadeja. Real Jadeja cares only about taking selfies. Sir is a very nice person and owns cricketers only on field with his legendary spin bowling.

 

[Abidi110]

If Miandad came out with anti india statement, than many others like Afridi,Mibah, Yasir,Moeen Khan came up with positive statements too. We only get to hear one kind of statements from across the border from players/chairman.

 

[petercat]

Gambhir is a motormouth and we have a few past players who poke into issues they shouldn't, never deny it. Miandad is the best ever batsman of Pakistan. Gambhir is nowhere compared to him. Imagine Sachin Tendulkar coming up with a statement like "We should kill all Pakistanis..", because that's what Miandad said. It's not like ex Pakistani players haven't come up with foot in the mouth statements in the past, they have given worse statements. Afridi with the small hearts statement, and guys like Tanvir and Nazir. Nobody in India took them seriously. I'm not sure why you guys take Gambhir seriously either. He regularly comes up with these kinds of poor statements which he shouldn't be giving and it's not a new thing for him. The guy has a poor social behaviour and even picks fights with his own teammates like Kohli. What do you expect?

Why are you getting defensive here?What GG said is something that is right now the popular opinion in India.No matter what political parties in India are fighting about they have been pretty unanimoius on scaling down relations with India.The opinion in India right now is massively anti Pakistan and this opinion has been rising since he Mumbai attacks.

And the entire media played the Afridi and Tanvir comments about India and they were summarily criticised n India,so dont know who told you that they were not taken seriously.

I dont post much on PP but today i decided to post because i believe the truth is far from what you are portraying.GG's opinion is the reflection of the popular Indian sentiment today and has nothing to do with him being a motor mouth.Why not just accept hat truth that the Indian sentiment is massively anti Pakistan at this time rather than acting all isi fine and GG is motor mouth.

If we never accept the problem we will never solve it and live in the fool's paradise that only a GG or a Thakur or a small group is saying this.It is not. Sadly The perception of Pakistan being an enemy is a popular in India Today and coming to PP and saying no its not will not change it.Rather accepting that such a perception exists will help change it.

Just my two cents,dont take it personally please.And i request the same to my Pakistani friends here.

 

[petercat]

If Miandad came out with anti india statement, than many others like Afridi,Mibah, Yasir,Moeen Khan came up with positive statements too. We only get to hear one kind of statements from across the border from players/chairman.

Because unfortunately the popular perception in India is anti Pakistan these days.

 

[Abidi110]

Because unfortunately the popular perception in India is anti Pakistan these days.

The perception in Pak is also anti-india!

 

[petercat]

Not sure why Gambhir is being given so much importance anyway

He's a nobody and a failed cricketer who is trying to stay relevant in the media by using cheap tactics

Disagree with you that he is a nobody.Won India two World titles, series in NZ.Has close to 10000 interenational runs.So he isnt a failed cricketer either.He is a very well known cricketer in India and world.

 

[petercat]

The perception in Pak is also anti-india!

Then these statements are the reflection of the mood of the society.Why target one man for saying that.Rather accept it and if we get an opputunity try to change it in whichever small way we can.

 

[petercat]

I personally find the opinion of Indians on this forum to be either to submissive or to aggressive.Nobody wants to take a middle way here.Is it that difficult?Or is it the subcontinental phenomenon.A all or zero sum game mentality.

 

[street cricketer]

Why are you getting defensive here?What GG said is something that is right now the popular opinion in India.No matter what political parties in India are fighting about they have been pretty unanimoius on scaling down relations with India.The opinion in India right now is massively anti Pakistan and this opinion has been rising since he Mumbai attacks.

And the entire media played the Afridi and Tanvir comments about India and they were summarily criticised n India,so dont know who told you that they were not taken seriously.

I dont post much on PP but today i decided to post because i believe the truth is far from what you are portraying.GG's opinion is the reflection of the popular Indian sentiment today and has nothing to do with him being a motor mouth.Why not just accept hat truth that the Indian sentiment is massively anti Pakistan at this time rather than acting all isi fine and GG is motor mouth.

If we never accept the problem we will never solve it and live in the fool's paradise that only a GG or a Thakur or a small group is saying this.It is not. Sadly The perception of Pakistan being an enemy is a popular in India Today and coming to PP and saying no its not will not change it.Rather accepting that such a perception exists will help change it.

Just my two cents,dont take it personally please.And i request the same to my Pakistani friends here.

Yet, Afridi was lauded during the WT20. Regardless, I was talking about cricketers. It might be an opinion prevalent among masses, but cricketers shouldn't be giving out opinions on political issues. How many times have you seen Sachin and Dravid talking about India Pakistan ties or cutting off relations with them in the past. It's better to remain mum even if you don't give out any statements as a cricketer who may play in future with Pakistan teams.

If you want to take a stance with cutting down relations with Pakistan due to the tense sitation in the border, fair enough. But I have a problem when that high handed stance is thrown to the bin during ICC tournaments. In a fair world, India should forfeit matches against Pakistan and the latter should receive the points for it if India doesn't want to play Pakistan in cricket. But that never happens. Put your money where your mouth is. Either don't mix sports with politics at all or don't play with Pakistan at all. Adopting a duplicitous stance only comes across as hypocrisy of the highest order.

 

[Abidi110]

Then these statements are the reflection of the mood of the society.Why target one man for saying that.Rather accept it and if we get an opputunity try to change it in whichever small way we can.

Because as an active player he shouldn't be saying such a thing, same goes for the thakur who has been behaving like a fool. And yes, whatever the general perception maybe in a country, one can always maintain sanity. Afridi came up with a very good statement, so did Misbah, Gambhir's statement shows what a fool he is and as such he was rightfully targeted.

 

[petercat]

Yet, Afridi was lauded during the WT20. Regardless, I was talking about cricketers. It might be an opinion prevalent among masses, but cricketers shouldn't be giving out opinions on political issues. How many times have you seen Sachin and Dravid talking about India Pakistan ties or cutting off relations with them in the past. It's better to remain mum even if you don't give out any statements as a cricketer who may play in future with Pakistan teams.

If you want to take a stance with cutting down relations with Pakistan due to the tense sitation in the border, fair enough. But I have a problem when that high handed stance is thrown to the bin during ICC tournaments. In a fair world, India should forfeit matches against Pakistan and the latter should receive the points for it if India doesn't want to play Pakistan in cricket. But that never happens. Put your money where your mouth is. Either don't mix sports with politics at all or don't play with Pakistan at all. Adopting a duplicitous stance only comes across as hypocrisy of the highest order.

Cricketer Actor Politician you me all are the product of the same society.Some may speak out some may not.Someone being a celebrity doesnot take away their right to speak up.

Past is past.Since 2008 the perception has been becoming anti Pakistan.Thats the sad reality.Some celebrity not speaking up isnt going to change it.Rather accept the reality and work to change it.Sachin,Dravid are introverts may be didnt speak much even during playing days.

Regarding playing Pakistan in ICC events.Well whatever my little understanding is i believe BCCI's stance is to hurt PCB financially and do it without hurting their own interests much.The stance is somewhere between hypocritical and realistic.

 

[petercat]

Because as an active player he shouldn't be saying such a thing, same goes for the thakur who has been behaving like a fool. And yes, whatever the general perception maybe in a country, one can always maintain sanity. Afridi came up with a very good statement, so did Misbah, Gambhir's statement shows what a fool he is and as such he was rightfully targeted.

Tell me will GG not saying it change the reality?

We have a poster here who is saying that this opinion is of Modi and his supporters.Wel we all can be happy saying that.But that will be a lie.

 

[Statsman]

I am a massive Gambhir fan but don't think he should be speaking all this.

 

[street cricketer]

Cricketer Actor Politician you me all are the product of the same society.Some may speak out some may not.Someone being a celebrity doesnot take away their right to speak up.

Past is past.Since 2008 the perception has been becoming anti Pakistan.Thats the sad reality.Some celebrity not speaking up isnt going to change it.Rather accept the reality and work to change it.Sachin,Dravid are introverts may be didnt speak much even during playing days.

Regarding playing Pakistan in ICC events.Well whatever my little understanding is i believe BCCI's stance is to hurt PCB financially and do it without hurting their own interests much.The stance is somewhere between hypocritical and realistic.

Then I'm afraid your (referring to BCCI's) stance loses all moral standing it has. Mr.Gambhir is saying that the sentiments of parents of soldiers must be respected, I completely respect that. But won't their sentiments get affected when India plays with Pakistan in the world cup or the champions trophy too? Why will they care if the BCCI wants to make money or not? Either do it completely or don't mix sports and politics. I'm afraid this pick and choose duplicitous stance appears highly hypocritical.

 

[ali2220]

This reminds me when some Indians were asking Fawad Khan to leave the country, then there was a news saying that he cannot leave India simply coz in order to leave India he has to be in India first (during all that time he was in Lahore)
Likewise india should play with Pak first before any fool out there start screaming that we shouldn't play bilateral matches with Pak.When you haven't played for ages and are not scheduled top play then whats the point of such dumb statements?

 

[petercat]

Then I'm afraid your (referring to BCCI's) stance loses all moral standing it has. Mr.Gambhir is saying that the sentiments of parents of soldiers must be respected, I completely respect that. But won't their sentiments get affected when India plays with Pakistan in the world cup or the champions trophy too? Why will they care if the BCCI wants to make money or not? Either do it completely or don't mix sports and politics. I'm afraid this pick and choose duplicitous stance appears highly hypocritical.

We dont live in a moraly perfect world.I once heard a cricket administrator sayiing that by forfeiting a ICC match they will be helping Pakistan and insulting the martyrs.The stand may be is to hurt PCB financially by not playing them and cricketically(did i just invent a word)by denting their chnace in ICC tournaments by beating them.

As i said its somewhere between hypocritical and realistic.

 

[ali2220]

You would obviously respect a player of Wasim stature regardless of the nationality.

No! any decent man would rather respect honest cricketerers like Wahab,Misbah,Yasir etc.

 

[msb314]

I am not sure why this guy is even still relevant.

 

[Ab Fan]

No! any decent man would rather respect honest cricketerers like Wahab,Misbah,Yasir etc.

Ofcourse.But don't you think Gambhir wouldn't show respect to someone like Wasim who himself is a very nice person?

Everyone out there knows gambhir is a bit arrogant and outspoken personality.Why would one take his words seriously, particularly, when your team is anyways doing well?

 

[JaDed]

I don't understand why Pakistanis are so eager to play with an overrated Indian team. There are plenty of series against England and Australia and other top sides.

In that logic Bangladesh should never get a game.Don't bring in the Indian team here these are words of Gambhir and he deserves all the flak.