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Once a long shot, Democrat Doug Jones wins Alabama senate race

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Doug Jones, a Democratic former prosecutor who mounted a seemingly quixotic Senate campaign in the face of Republican dominance here, defeated his scandal-scarred opponent, Roy S. Moore, after a brutal campaign marked by accusations of sexual abuse and child molestation against the Republican, according to The Associated Press.

The upset delivered an unimagined victory for Democrats and shaved Republicans’ unstable Senate majority to a single seat.

Mr. Jones’s victory could have significant consequences on the national level, snarling Republicans’ legislative agenda in Washington and opening, for the first time, a realistic but still difficult path for Democrats to capture the Senate next year. It amounted to a stinging snub of President Trump, who broke with much of his party and fully embraced Mr. Moore’s candidacy, seeking to rally support for him in the closing days of the campaign.

Amid thunderous applause from his supporters at a downtown hotel, Mr. Jones held up his victory as a message to Washington from voters fed up with political warfare. For once, he said, Alabama had declined to take “the wrong fork” at a political crossroads.

“We have shown the country the way that we can be unified,” Mr. Jones declared, draping his election in the language of reconciliation and consensus. “This entire race has been about dignity and respect. This campaign has been about the rule of law.”

Mr. Trump tweeted his congratulations to Mr. Jones “on a hard fought victory.”

“The people of Alabama are great, and the Republicans will have another shot at this seat in a very short period of time. It never ends!” he wrote.

Propelled by a backlash against Mr. Moore, an intensely polarizing former judge who was accused of sexually assaulting young girls, Mr. Jones overcame the state’s daunting demographics and deep cultural conservatism. His campaign targeted African-American voters with a sprawling, muscular turnout operation, and appealed to educated whites to turn their backs on the Republican Party.

Those pleas paid off on Tuesday, as precincts in Birmingham and its suburbs handed Mr. Jones overwhelming margins while he also won convincingly in Huntsville and other urban centers. The abandonment of Mr. Moore by affluent white voters along with strong support from black voters proved decisive, allowing Mr. Jones to transcend Alabama’s rigid racial polarization and assemble a winning coalition. And solidifying Mr. Jones’s victory were the Republican-leaning Alabamians who chose to write in the name of a third candidate rather than back one of the two major party nominees. Over 20,000 voters here cast write-in ballots.

To progressive voters here, Mr. Jones’s victory marked a long-awaited rejection of the divisive brand of politics that Alabama has inevitably rewarded even as some of its Southern neighbors were turning to more moderate leaders.

At the celebration for Mr. Jones, Sue Bell Cobb, a former chief judge of the Alabama Supreme Court, said Mr. Jones had overcome a culture of “toxic partisanship,” reaching out to Republicans and electrifying restive Democrats.

“Never has there been this level of civic engagement,” said Ms. Cobb, who is planning to run for governor next year. “Never has it happened.”

She was drowned out by a raucous cry from her fellow Democrats, and clasped her hands to her face as she saw on a massive projection screen that Mr. Jones had pulled ahead. Mayor Randall Woodfin of Birmingham, a newly inaugurated Democrat standing just feet away, beamed as returns from his city helped put Mr. Jones over the top.

“It feels great,” he said with undisguised elation. “It sends a message not just to America but to the world.”

The campaign, originally envisioned as a pro forma affair to fill the Senate seat left vacant by Jeff Sessions, now the attorney general, developed in its final months into a referendum on Alabama’s identity, Mr. Trump’s political influence and the willingness of hard-right voters to tolerate a candidate accused of preying on teenage girls.

Mr. Jones, 63, best known for prosecuting two Ku Klux Klansmen responsible for bombing Birmingham’s 16th Street Baptist Church in 1963, offered himself chiefly as a figure of conciliation. He vowed to pursue traditional Democratic policy aims, in areas such as education and health care, but also pledged to cross party lines in Washington and partner with Senator Richard C. Shelby, the long-tenured Alabama Republican, to defend the state’s interests.

Mr. Moore did little in the general election to make himself more acceptable to conventional Republicans. To the extent he delivered a campaign message, it was a rudimentary one, showcasing his support for Mr. Trump and highlighting Mr. Jones’s party affiliation. But after facing allegations in early November that he sexually abused a 14-year-old girl and pursued relationships with other young teenagers, Mr. Moore became a scarce presence on the campaign trail.

On election night, as the results came in from Alabama’s cities and Mr. Moore’s lead evaporated, the mood at the Republican’s election night party in Montgomery darkened. A saxophonist played a slow rendition of Amazing Grace, and the crowd quieted as the results from The New York Times website posted on a projection screen turned toward Mr. Jones.

Taking the stage over an hour after The Associated Press called the race, Mr. Moore refused to concede and instructed a subdued crowd to “wait on God and let this process play out.”

“Go home and sleep on it,” Mr. Moore told supporters.

The election is a painful setback for Republicans in Washington, who have already struggled to enact policies of any scale and now face even tougher legislative math. Mr. Moore’s success in the Republican primary here, and the subsequent general-election fiasco, may deter mainstream Republicans from seeking office in 2018 and could prompt entrenched incumbents to consider retirement.

But there is also a measure of relief for some party leaders that Mr. Moore will not join the chamber, carrying with him a radioactive cloud of scandal. A number of Republicans, including Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the majority leader, had indicated that Mr. Moore would face an ethics investigation if he were elected, and possibly expulsion from the Senate.

Mr. Trump and Republican activists would most likely have opposed such a measure, setting up a potentially drastic, monthslong clash within the Republican Party, now averted thanks to Mr. Jones.

Still, that relief comes at a steep price. Before the election in Alabama, Republicans were heavily favored to keep control of the Senate in 2018, when Democrats must defend 25 seats, including 10 in states that Mr. Trump carried in 2016. Just two or three Republican-held seats appear vulnerable, in Arizona, Nevada and Tennessee.

But after Mr. Jones is sworn in, Republicans will control only 51 seats, creating a plausible route for Democrats to take over.

If the election burst into the national consciousness in early November, with the sex-abuse claims against Mr. Moore, it was an intensifying political migraine for Republican leaders months before then. Mr. Trump’s decision to pluck Mr. Sessions from the Senate in early 2017 touched off a grim comedy of errors for the party, involving two Alabama governors, a Senate appointment widely seen as tainted by corruption, a rescheduled special election and a botched attempt by national Republican donors to crush dissent in the Republican primary.

For all their efforts, party leaders were rewarded with Mr. Moore, whom they grudgingly embraced in the early fall — just in time for a scandal of unmatched luridness to appear.

If the election burst into the national consciousness in early November, with the sex-abuse claims against Mr. Moore, it was an intensifying political migraine for Republican leaders months before then. Mr. Trump’s decision to pluck Mr. Sessions from the Senate in early 2017 touched off a grim comedy of errors for the party, involving two Alabama governors, a Senate appointment widely seen as tainted by corruption, a rescheduled special election and a botched attempt by national Republican donors to crush dissent in the Republican primary.

For all their efforts, party leaders were rewarded with Mr. Moore, whom they grudgingly embraced in the early fall — just in time for a scandal of unmatched luridness to appear.

Mr. Jones raised $10.2 million in just over a month-and-a-half and third-party groups augmented his candidacy, helping him finance a massive voter-turnout effort after he had dominated the state’s airwaves for weeks.

He raced across the state with a handful of out-of-state surrogates and one local celebrity, basketball star Charles Barkley, in the race’s last days, focusing his attention on Alabama’s cities, college towns and heavily black communities.

Mr. Moore, instead of facing questions about his alleged sexual abuse, largely vanished from the campaign in the race’s last week. He returned to Alabama for a rally in the rural, southeast corner of the state on Monday with Stephen K. Bannon, Mr. Trump’s former chief strategist.

But the most memorable comments from the event did not come from Mr. Moore. Rather, they emerged from Mr. Bannon, who mocked MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough, a University of Alabama graduate, for not attending a more prestigious university; Mr. Moore’s wife, Kayla, who angrily denied charges the couple was anti-Semitic by noting “one of our attorneys is a Jew;” and an Army friend of the candidate, who recalled the two of them being uneasy walking into a Vietnam brothel to find “pretty girls” who Mr. Moore found too young.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/12/us/politics/alabama-senate-race-winner.html
 
Silly Trump and Bannon backed a damaged candidate.
 
Even as a child molester heavily backed by “wandering hands” himself, President Trump, Roy Moore still got within 1.5% of winning the seat - goes to show the average IQ level of an Alabama dweller I think.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Roy Moore campaign spokesman responds with silence when asked if he knew people can be sworn in with a text other than the Christian bible <a href="https://t.co/B65qIKBjlI">pic.twitter.com/B65qIKBjlI</a></p>— The Lead CNN (@TheLeadCNN) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheLeadCNN/status/940704581742419969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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These people don't seem all that clever tbh.
 
Shows how low standards in public life has become when we're relieved a sexual predator has not won an election.

Well done to Doug Jones.
 
Even as a child molester heavily backed by “wandering hands” himself, President Trump, Roy Moore still got within 1.5% of winning the seat - goes to show the average IQ level of an Alabama dweller I think.

This is a very disturbing fact.

What a society. In this day and age so many people voted for him :facepalm:

And Moore was a Judge for the Sixteenth Circuit Court of Alabama ( in office 1992–2000).

Sick people run world.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Roy Moore’s campaign spokesman says Muslims shouldn’t be in US Congress because they have to swear on the Bible. He responds with silence, mouth agape, when <a href="https://twitter.com/jaketapper?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jaketapper</a> informs him that’s not the case <a href="https://t.co/gFHyW4rzRC">https://t.co/gFHyW4rzRC</a> <a href="https://t.co/1V7JI0CyWJ">pic.twitter.com/1V7JI0CyWJ</a></p>— CNN (@CNN) <a href="https://twitter.com/CNN/status/940777216572567558?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 13, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The reason I originally endorsed Luther Strange (and his numbers went up mightily), is that I said Roy Moore will not be able to win the General Election. I was right! Roy worked hard but the deck was stacked against him!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/940904649728708609?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 13, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Conor Lamb wins in a Pennsylvania district that Trump carried by 19 points in 2016.

Blue wave coming in November ?
 
Looks like the people of “Pennsylvania” are tired of winning. Now they are switching sides after President Trump got all of them coal jobs and cut their taxes. How Thankless! #MAGA
 
So weird,democrats winning,eventhough on ground a lot of people are happy with what Trump is doing w.r.t immigration,extra taxes on steel ,reduced taxes, guess image of USA means more than what is happening inside USA for many Liberals.
 
So weird,democrats winning,eventhough on ground a lot of people are happy with what Trump is doing w.r.t immigration,extra taxes on steel ,reduced taxes, guess image of USA means more than what is happening inside USA for many Liberals.
Governing parties always suffer in mid terms during their first four years. Reagan in 1982, Clinton in 1994, Obama in 2010 - the exception was Bush in 2002 amidst post 9-11 hysteria. Obama had a growing economy in 2010 and 2014 but didn't do him much good at the polls.

As for the effectiveness of Trump's policies, that's debatable. According to a Politico/Morning Consult poll, only 25% of voters have noticed an increase in their paycheck due to the tax bill which was a huge giveaway to the rich and multinational corporations.

The three different GOP healthcare proposals that all failed to pass were massively unpopular, Medicaid would've been cut viciously and millions kicked off insurance. His pledge to tackle the opioid crisis which affects many white working class areas has been broken with no significant additional funding directed. His environmental deregulations are also a major setback in the fight against climate change.

However its also due to the fact Trump is a uniquely unpopular first term President when you look at polling. Even Trump voters have cringed over his antics on Twitter, his appalling handling of Charlottesville where he tried to appease the far-right, racism/sexism, and the chaos within the WH. Plus, there's the small matter of the Mueller investigation.

Finally, Democratic grassroots are energised after their shock defeat like the GOP after their 2008 defeat with turnout in their primaries higher than its been in years. All of this means they're achieving double digit swings even in red districts in places like Kansas, Montana and here in Pennsylvania.

In this district, the GOP's problems were compounded by the unpopularity of the previous incumbent Rep Tim Murphy - a pro-life, "family values" conservative who pressured his mistress to get an abortion - and Rick Saccone's lacklustre campaign which even millions of dollars of outside money couldn't save.
 
Governing parties always suffer in mid terms during their first four years. Reagan in 1982, Clinton in 1994, Obama in 2010 - the exception was Bush in 2002 amidst post 9-11 hysteria. Obama had a growing economy in 2010 and 2014 but didn't do him much good at the polls.

As for the effectiveness of Trump's policies, that's debatable. According to a Politico/Morning Consult poll, only 25% of voters have noticed an increase in their paycheck due to the tax bill which was a huge giveaway to the rich and multinational corporations.

The three different GOP healthcare proposals that all failed to pass were massively unpopular, Medicaid would've been cut viciously and millions kicked off insurance. His pledge to tackle the opioid crisis which affects many white working class areas has been broken with no significant additional funding directed. His environmental deregulations are also a major setback in the fight against climate change.

However its also due to the fact Trump is a uniquely unpopular first term President when you look at polling. Even Trump voters have cringed over his antics on Twitter, his appalling handling of Charlottesville where he tried to appease the far-right, racism/sexism, and the chaos within the WH. Plus, there's the small matter of the Mueller investigation.

Finally, Democratic grassroots are energised after their shock defeat like the GOP after their 2008 defeat with turnout in their primaries higher than its been in years. All of this means they're achieving double digit swings even in red districts in places like Kansas, Montana and here in Pennsylvania.

In this district, the GOP's problems were compounded by the unpopularity of the previous incumbent Rep Tim Murphy - a pro-life, "family values" conservative who pressured his mistress to get an abortion - and Rick Saccone's lacklustre campaign which even millions of dollars of outside money couldn't save.

Thanks informative post,feels it's more to do with incumbency than anything else, neutrals seem divided here.
Elections here in Illinois is on MAR 20 ,ll let you know how it goes ,for now it seems Democrats would win.
 
Now that the tax bill has been signed off, and everyone has also realised that American Healthcare is dreadful whoever designs and administers it, a Congress and a Senate controlled by the Democrats would be more likely to enact the first steps of what the US is really crying out for at the moment: robust gun control legislation. Trump seems to have grown increasingly lukewarm on his previous pro-gun stance with each passing slaughter, so he may be able to assist with this. There is nothing wrong with upholding the 2nd Amendment and also having some more reasonable, logical and safe gun control laws - I see no contradiction there.
 
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