Pakistan are left with more questions than answers after longest T20I series in history

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Many thanks to [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] for his review of Pakistan's loss in the T20I series against England and the ominous signs for their T20 World Cup campaign.


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A compelling series tamely ended in Lahore with fans streaming for the exits long before the final ball that confirmed England’s 4-3 win. Despite some positives, Babar Azam and Saqlain Mushtaq are no closer to addressing their weaknesses with the T20 World Cup in Australia fast approaching.


Misfiring Middle Order

Pakistan’s much maligned middle order is endlessly scrutinised. There’s two schools of thought – A) the middle order is so unreliable that prolific opening pair Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan are forced to play conservatively to lift Pakistan to competitive totals; and B) Babar and Rizwan consume so many deliveries that the middle order, bereft in confidence and form, are designed to fail by having to slog from ball one.

The reality is both arguments have merit. In the Asia Cup final, Rizwan failed to accelerate and allowed the RRR to climb to 14 leaving too much for the big hitters to do. However, the England series showed the middle order unable to make impact even with plenty of overs spare.

Shan Masood emerges with some credit, although his figures are inflated by two fifties scored after Pakistan were well out of the contest. His SR also concerns given Pakistan have two similar anchors opening. Iftikhar Ahmed maddeningly shows fleeting glimpses of his ability before getting out, and possesses a poor SR vs spin. Khushdil Shah is so mentally and technically shot that persisting with his selection is almost cruel.

Haider Ali sadly belongs in the same camp. There’s undoubted future potential but his repetitive dismissals to short balls requires significant technical adjustment. Asif Ali’s two sixes proved vital in the 5th T20I – but can Pakistan carry someone who delivers once in a blue moon ? Speaking of which, Mohammad Nawaz’s cameo vs India in the Asia Cup seems just that.

There’s one possible solution Pakistan haven’t tried. Shadab Khan’s figures may seem poor but are based on just four innings. In PSL 7, he averaged 33 at a SR of 162 batting in the top 4. Are Pakistan missing a trick by not giving him more responsibility?


Schoolboy Fielding

There’s no beating around the bush - Pakistan’s fielding was an embarrassment. The amount of dropped catches, fumbles and collisions in the last few months are sufficient grounds to review the position of Pakistan’s fielding coach. One wonders what happens in practice, and the captain was the worst culprit in the decider dropping two sitters.

*Pakistan’s Bowling Depth*

Haris Rauf didn’t deserve to be on the losing end after emerging as the leading wicket-taker in a generally high scoring series. His death bowling was outstanding, and contributed to a remarkable turnaround in the 4th game when Liam Dawson seemingly hauled England to victory.

Sadly for him, support was fleeting. Mohammad Hasnain bowled well upfront but his death bowling weakness remains. Aamer Jamal enjoyed an impressive debut with a nerveless display of death bowling before being hammered by a rampaging Phil Salt in the 6th T20. Neither Mohammad Wasim jr, Shahnawaz Dhani or Usman Qadir advanced their cause, requiring more finetuning at domestic level. Abrar Ahmed didn’t even get a game.


Babar’s Captaincy

T20 is the toughest test of captaincy. No other format has such little margin for error. It requires flexibility and quick thinking. Babar’s promotion of Mohammad Nawaz paid off vs India in the Asia Cup, as did utilising Aamer Jamal at the death in the 5th T20. However, one wonders whether these decisions were incidental than by design as Babar compiles an alarmingly growing list of missteps.

Fans openly revolted as Khushdil Shah was promoted ahead of Asif Ali in the 4th T20, and produced another timid innings when Pakistan needed acceleration. Mohammad Nawaz was given one over in the decider in the Powerplay despite being one of Pakistan’s best bowlers. Bowling changes appear scripted than based on in-game situations, with a desire to save the best bowlers to the end instead of going for the kill.


Verdict

Pakistan did well to win three matches against an England team possessing incredible depth in all departments. Babar and Rizwan also appeared to make a concerted effort to show more intent in the Powerplay, perhaps hearing the post-Asia Cup criticism. Shaheen’s return will bolster an exciting pace attack. However, Pakistan remain dependent on individual brilliance than coherent plans and three crunch games have been lost (2021 T20 WC semi-final; Asia Cup Final; 7th T20I vs England).

Rather than attribute defeats to “nature’s law”, the think tank must learn from mistakes if success in Australia is to be achieved.
 
*Babar under-utilised Aamer Jamal and Shadab khan’s batting. This was a nice opportunity to test a newcomer’s batting skills by promoting him up the order. Shadab should start batting at 4 he has the potential to grow in that role.
Babar is not enterprising and imaginative and may be even stubborn.
T20 format provides a lot of room for trying new ideas and team building

* Babar should himself come at 3 and show how it’s done. Need an explosive opener.Need to learn from England Phil Salt averages only 25 but makes use of PP batting at 170 SR.

* Nawaz underutilisation is criminal. Babar doesn’t want him to bowl to left handers and rather goes for the more defensive option Iftikhar
 
*Babar under-utilised Aamer Jamal and Shadab khan’s batting. This was a nice opportunity to test a newcomer’s batting skills by promoting him up the order. Shadab should start batting at 4 he has the potential to grow in that role.
Babar is not enterprising and imaginative and may be even stubborn.
T20 format provides a lot of room for trying new ideas and team building

* Babar should himself come at 3 and show how it’s done. Need an explosive opener.Need to learn from England Phil Salt averages only 25 but makes use of PP batting at 170 SR.

* Nawaz underutilisation is criminal. Babar doesn’t want him to bowl to left handers and rather goes for the more defensive option Iftikhar

Very valid points and I second that. I think Babar wants certain players to somehow keep their place in the side and hence doesn't want to bat the all rounders like Jamal, Shadab, Nawaz higher up.

Add to that the unbelievably bad fielding and catching has meant that the good work done by certain good bowlers like Rauf is also undone. This can happen to Shaheen and Naseem as well if catches are continuously dropped. In this day and age when fielders take blinders, Pak drop the simplest of catches, and it's not a one off, it happens every game, which means there is something fundamentally wrong.
 
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This is the case before every major tournament. If I remember correctly, Pakistan even played a B team against Australia in a crucial series right 'before' the 50 over world cup. Lost 5-0, deflated.
 
Hopefully for Pakistan, the form of Nawaz and Shadab returns as they have been underwhelming this series. Also, Shaheen's bowling hasn't suffered.

I know fans are very excited by Naseem, Dahani, Hasnain etc. but none apart from Rauf have consistently made an impact.
 
Need to bring in Fakhar & Azam Khan, Imad, Lack of intent yesterday was mind boggling, Even Shan Masood played for himself.

We don't need selfish player, I don't mind if they get out in 14 overs trying to chase the target instead of just playing 20 overs.
 
Here's a table elaborating on our misfiring middle order. This is for 2022 and removing Hong Kong:

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Here's a table elaborating on our misfiring middle order. This is for 2022 and removing Hong Kong:

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Goodness me! Look at Asif Ali and Haider ali, averages of 8 and 9 wow is this junior cricket or really international stats?
Sorry but I am pretty sure Imad Wasim is even better then this useless guys.
 
Wow, six hitter averaging 8 this year. Captaincy material.
 
Better than Misbah negative Energy

“LeTs PlAy FAkhar aT 4 and Imam As OpEnER in T2o” :clown

Only one who is looking like a clown is you. Irresistibly defending an 8 averaging clown.

Fakhar at 4 is gold in comparison.
 
This is what happens when you pick village 3rd X1 sloggers with no clue on how to bat properly.

Shadab and Nawaz can be forgiven in Shadab case average and SR is actually acceptable. Asif Ali cant be dropped yet as he has played a few good innings which saved us from embarrassment in last T20 WC. Rest can be gotten rid of sooner the better.
 
Here's a table elaborating on our misfiring middle order. This is for 2022 and removing Hong Kong:

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According to our selector Iftikhar, Khushdil and Asif are our ‘impact’ players. You can’t make this stuff up lol.

I particularly feel bad for Khushdil as he is clearly not ready for international cricket and the management has basically destroyed his confidence and potentially his career.
 
Only one who is looking like a clown is you. Irresistibly defending an 8 averaging clown.

Fakhar at 4 is gold in comparison.


You have as much understanding of this game as Younis Khan’s notebook

I back my claim 100%.

Asif will do much better as our T20 leader in comparison to Babar, Rizwan and Shan :))
 
I didn't add Fakhar's numbers to the table.

Again in 2022 removing Hong Kong - he averages 7.16 at a SR of 81.13. However I suppose he's earned a longer rope due to his tournament record.
 
Fakhar and Imad are crucial to the line-up.
I also agree that Shadab should be batting higher. He has a better strike rate then our supposed big hitters but also has the ability to bat long.

On the fast bowling front, I've said this before but I can't remember when Pakistan last fielded a side without a left arm seamer in it. For T20's a left armer adds variety and and the different angle can prevent batsmen from lining them up easily. In the absence of Shaheen we should have tried out a left armer for the England Series. Instead we went with similar paced right armers which frankly, at times, were cannon fonder for the English batters.
 
However, irrespective of the Line-up, the biggest hurdle for our team is the Captain and the Coach.
So many mistakes in selections, bowling changes, and field placements will keep costing us crucial games.
 
This is what happens when you approach every series in a cowardly manner.

Pakistan have found nothing out in this series. The stubbornness about the top 2 not being broken up is a big hindrance to the team.
 
I didn't add Fakhar's numbers to the table.

Again in 2022 removing Hong Kong - he averages 7.16 at a SR of 81.13. However I suppose he's earned a longer rope due to his tournament record.

He may be better suited to the Australian wickets

One thing which I feel is overlooked is that despite certain blunders, based on the resources available, this Pakistan team has overachieved. I feel the fans need to adjust their expectations, in my view they have achieved more then 90% of Pakistani T20 sides besides the golden generation of 2009. What they have lacked in ability, they have often made up for it with grit. It has been an age since Pak last began to compete with India and those spectacular collapses or defeats from the jaws of victory are not as frequent.

Babar is criticised but he is a young captain learning on the job, it’s the right thing to back him. I agree he could improve but asking for his sack is ignorant. Babar even with this series managed to defend two record low totals.

They could have experimented a bit more in this series but Asia Cup / England series combined, most people got the chance to prove themselves, even the IWC favourites. Anyone outside the set up is not going to drastically change the teams fortunes.

Am not Ramiz’s biggest fan but one thing he did understand is making sure the captain has influence and power, unfortunately that’s how things have always worked successfully in Pakistan if you look at Imran Khan’s and Misbah’s stints. With minimal interference and leadership trying to be bigger then the players, the captain / his team are able to thrive, the Australian or English management styles are not going to work in Pakistan, Bob Woolmer was an anomaly and the greatest manager of all time in any sport
 
I know this sounds like a broken record, but for the middle order to work, Pakistan must consider sending Babar down to No.4 with Fakhar returning to open with Rizwan. I personally would have Shadab Khan at No.3 as a pinch hitter.
 
I think cracks were always there & were never fixed at first place.

Even If you go back a year, in last year T20 world cup, our Middle order did struggle, somehow Asif Ali closed off 2 very tight games v Afg/Nzl, while chasing modest totals. In Semi final our middle failed massively ( Asif Ali, Hafeez, Imad, Shoaib malik did not add much).

Babar/Rizwan ( you get them out early, inside first 6-7 overs) opposition always have chance.

Australia beat us in T20 at Gaddafi stadium + England has won 4 out of 7 in Pakistan, overall Pakistan has lost 5 out of 8 T20’s at home this year.

In Asia cup Naseem shah saved us from Afghanistan.
Middle order will remain weak for sometime. Best bet is Babar winning crucial tosses & pak bowling restricting opposition to 150-165 in upcoming world cup.

We can chase in that bracket.

If luck shines Babar win tosses vs India + South Africa, i think even with weak middle order they can go to the semis.

In semis again if toss helps, Somehow Pak restricts Eng or Aus to 160, there is every bit chance for Pak to play in world cup final.
 
Indeed and they are the match winners Rameez was talking about
 
There is no middle order. This is the worst middle order I have seen for a long time. They struggle to play proper shots and all are going for Afridi like heroics, brainless 6 glory shots, no match awareness and disgusting club grade dismissals.

Special shout out to Haider Ali and Kushdil, back to club cricket you both go.

There is a running joke with England fans, Pakistan only have 2 batters and 1 bowler :91:

I think we need to bring back Hafeez, Malik and Sharjeel for the WC.
 
We had a reputation for defending par totals.
Then when we won a game we would go on to string a few successive wins, ride the crest of a wave, and take down whatever team that was in front of us.

A lot of this was down to good bowling but also instinctive captaincy.

We rarely have this now and our strategy seems muddled. This is why I would prefer someone like Shaheen taking the captaincy of the T20 side and let Babar concentrate on making runs.
 
*Babar under-utilised Aamer Jamal and Shadab khan’s batting. This was a nice opportunity to test a newcomer’s batting skills by promoting him up the order. Shadab should start batting at 4 he has the potential to grow in that role.
Babar is not enterprising and imaginative and may be even stubborn.
T20 format provides a lot of room for trying new ideas and team building

* Babar should himself come at 3 and show how it’s done. Need an explosive opener.Need to learn from England Phil Salt averages only 25 but makes use of PP batting at 170 SR.

* Nawaz underutilisation is criminal. Babar doesn’t want him to bowl to left handers and rather goes for the more defensive option Iftikhar


Babar continuously keep selecting rubbish batsmen to fill middle order shows he is either clueless or if he is doing that on purpose so that he can play his way at the top and stat pad...
 
There is no middle order. This is the worst middle order I have seen for a long time. They struggle to play proper shots and all are going for Afridi like heroics, brainless 6 glory shots, no match awareness and disgusting club grade dismissals.

Special shout out to Haider Ali and Kushdil, back to club cricket you both go.

There is a running joke with England fans,
Pakistan only have 2 batters and 1 bowler
:91:

I think we need to bring back Hafeez, Malik and Sharjeel for the WC.

Thats a fact not a joke..
 
He may be better suited to the Australian wickets

One thing which I feel is overlooked is that despite certain blunders, based on the resources available, this Pakistan team has overachieved. I feel the fans need to adjust their expectations, in my view they have achieved more then 90% of Pakistani T20 sides besides the golden generation of 2009. What they have lacked in ability, they have often made up for it with grit. It has been an age since Pak last began to compete with India and those spectacular collapses or defeats from the jaws of victory are not as frequent.

Babar is criticised but he is a young captain learning on the job, it’s the right thing to back him. I agree he could improve but asking for his sack is ignorant. Babar even with this series managed to defend two record low totals.

They could have experimented a bit more in this series but Asia Cup / England series combined, most people got the chance to prove themselves, even the IWC favourites. Anyone outside the set up is not going to drastically change the teams fortunes.

Am not Ramiz’s biggest fan but one thing he did understand is making sure the captain has influence and power, unfortunately that’s how things have always worked successfully in Pakistan if you look at Imran Khan’s and Misbah’s stints. With minimal interference and leadership trying to be bigger then the players, the captain / his team are able to thrive, the Australian or English management styles are not going to work in Pakistan, Bob Woolmer was an anomaly and the greatest manager of all time in any sport

I agree our bench strength is dismal and there aren't many options available.

However the team management do deserve criticism for inflexibility. We've see how demoralised the team gets when Babar and Rizwan are dismissed early. Why not try Babar at 3 to shore up our middle order ? Instead we put all our eggs in the Babar/Rizwan opening basket. We also imbalance the side with two anchors up top.

The other suggestion in the piece was to give Shadab more responsibility. I haven't always been a big Shadab fan but in PSL he averages 32 at SR of 157 at #4, yet we've never tried him there.
 
The biggest question is whether Babar is the right man to lead the side?

My jury at least is out on him
 
He may be better suited to the Australian wickets

One thing which I feel is overlooked is that despite certain blunders, based on the resources available, this Pakistan team has overachieved. I feel the fans need to adjust their expectations, in my view they have achieved more then 90% of Pakistani T20 sides besides the golden generation of 2009. What they have lacked in ability, they have often made up for it with grit. It has been an age since Pak last began to compete with India and those spectacular collapses or defeats from the jaws of victory are not as frequent.

Completely agree. Too many posters are expecting way too much from this very mediocre side.

It's thanks to Rizwan and Babar that we aren't a laughing stock. Without them it is 7-0. Even with them 7-0 was the likely scorecard but save for them batting out of their skins at times.
 
This is what happens when you approach every series in a cowardly manner.

Pakistan have found nothing out in this series. The stubbornness about the top 2 not being broken up is a big hindrance to the team.

Yup ... could have tried Asif as an opener vs Eng for 3-4 games but they are stuck in their ways and we'll never know what we can get out of him batting up the order

Cameron Green got promoted to open vs India, he had never done it at this level and lo behold, he produced 2 gems at the top for his team. This thinking that batsmen can't be versatile is dooming us. The lack of creativity is baffling.

For all his faults in commentating and even as a skipper, Wasim Akram was not afraid to experiment. He promoted Afridi & Razzaq up the order and those two paid dividends. Out of the box thinking like that is severely lacking in this think tank.

We lost the series anyway playing our best opening combo, didn't really gain any new insight. If we were going to lose then why not go down trying something different to find a more optimal permutation of the current personnel? SMH

It's frustrating to the core!
 
Yup ... could have tried Asif as an opener vs Eng for 3-4 games but they are stuck in their ways and we'll never know what we can get out of him batting up the order

Cameron Green got promoted to open vs India, he had never done it at this level and lo behold, he produced 2 gems at the top for his team. This thinking that batsmen can't be versatile is dooming us. The lack of creativity is baffling.

For all his faults in commentating and even as a skipper, Wasim Akram was not afraid to experiment. He promoted Afridi & Razzaq up the order and those two paid dividends. Out of the box thinking like that is severely lacking in this think tank.

We lost the series anyway playing our best opening combo, didn't really gain any new insight. If we were going to lose then why not go down trying something different to find a more optimal permutation of the current personnel? SMH

It's frustrating to the core!

Wasim Akram was miles ahead of the current batch as a cricketer, personality and captain. All the youngsters who played and debuted under his captaincy i.e. Saqlain, Afridi, Razzaq, Mahmood, Shoaib, Malik, Yousaf and co all vouch that his captaincy was their most enjoyable period of cricket for Pakistan.
 
The strike rates of the supposed big hitters is quite illuminating. Asif Ali is the only one who actually deserves the tag of big hitter even if his average is terrible.

These big hitters have been worked out by the opposition teams who have done their homework on the strengths and weakness of these players. Hence why their international strike rates are not matching their domestic strike rates.
 
Yup ... could have tried Asif as an opener vs Eng for 3-4 games but they are stuck in their ways and we'll never know what we can get out of him batting up the order

Asif has never opened in his life. He has also shown zero capacity to play a long innings, navigate a difficult wicket or rotate strike effectively. Please explain how zero career 50's and never seeming to survive more than a handful of balls a game then warrants a promotion to the very top?

Your logic is weak as Asif's 2022 batting average.
 
Hopefully for Pakistan, the form of Nawaz and Shadab returns as they have been underwhelming this series. Also, Shaheen's bowling hasn't suffered.

I know fans are very excited by Naseem, Dahani, Hasnain etc. but none apart from Rauf have consistently made an impact.

At least, Hasnain makes use of the new ball. Sam Billings didn't bowl him at the death overs.
 
Asif has never opened in his life. He has also shown zero capacity to play a long innings, navigate a difficult wicket or rotate strike effectively. Please explain how zero career 50's and never seeming to survive more than a handful of balls a game then warrants a promotion to the very top?

Your logic is weak as Asif's 2022 batting average.

How many times has Cameron Green opened the batting at competitive level? How would you know if you never try?
 
Asif has never opened in his life. He has also shown zero capacity to play a long innings, navigate a difficult wicket or rotate strike effectively. Please explain how zero career 50's and never seeming to survive more than a handful of balls a game then warrants a promotion to the very top?

Your logic is weak as Asif's 2022 batting average.

Cameron Green had never opened even in Aussie domestic yet he got promoted vs India and produced the goods ... It's thinking/logic like yours that's actually plaguing the team.

Afridi and Razzaq were never openers and were promoted up the order to better utilize their skillsets and it worked to a good extent under Wasim's captaincy. Heck Afridi came in the team as a leggie!

Giving Asif 3-4 games at the top would not hurt if long term vision is the objective. If he had failed, they would have more data as to what he can and can't do.

Expecting 50s from a guy who mostly comes to bat in the death overs is absurd. Yes he also failed twice in this series when he had time at the crease but that's hardly a large enough sample size.

What's the worst that will happen by making him open? He scores a quick fire 20-30 of 10-12 balls or gets out. Either way the team would benefit or be in neutral position as Babar can come in at 3 and continue the innings. When you have a guy who can unsettle the opposition with a few boundaries from the jump it goes a long way in setting the tone.
 
Cameron Green had never opened even in Aussie domestic yet he got promoted vs India and produced the goods ... It's thinking/logic like yours that's actually plaguing the team.

Afridi and Razzaq were never openers and were promoted up the order to better utilize their skillsets and it worked to a good extent under Wasim's captaincy. Heck Afridi came in the team as a leggie!

Giving Asif 3-4 games at the top would not hurt if long term vision is the objective. If he had failed, they would have more data as to what he can and can't do.

Expecting 50s from a guy who mostly comes to bat in the death overs is absurd. Yes he also failed twice in this series when he had time at the crease but that's hardly a large enough sample size.

What's the worst that will happen by making him open? He scores a quick fire 20-30 of 10-12 balls or gets out. Either way the team would benefit or be in neutral position as Babar can come in at 3 and continue the innings. When you have a guy who can unsettle the opposition with a few boundaries from the jump it goes a long way in setting the tone.

This logic is so simple it’s frustrating how stubborn Babar is.

Make Asif open, he can hit over the top and take advantage of the boundary restrictions. Best case - 20 off 10 and Babar comes in at 40 -1 after 3 overs. Worst case 0-1 and Babar comes in as basically an opener.

To not even try something is ridiculous.
 
This logic is so simple it’s frustrating how stubborn Babar is.

Make Asif open, he can hit over the top and take advantage of the boundary restrictions. Best case - 20 off 10 and Babar comes in at 40 -1 after 3 overs. Worst case 0-1 and Babar comes in as basically an opener.

To not even try something is ridiculous.

Qudrat ka nizam bhai loooool
 
If Asif opens who will be our power hitter down the order? That's when we struggle to accelerate
 
If Asif opens who will be our power hitter down the order? That's when we struggle to accelerate

He is playing on tukka basis as it is

He may or may not come off. Might as well try to get the most of him with only 2 fielders allowed out instead of 5
 
From the selected 15 one of the biggest conundrum is to pick a balanced 11 catch 22 for Saqlian and Co.

1.Rizwan
2.Shan
3.Babar
4.Haider
5.Nawaz
6.Asif
7.Shadab
8.Iftikhar
9.WasimJr
10.Rauf
11.Hasnain

That's the 11 which should be played batting order to be shuffled keeping in view the no. of overs left to wickets fell down none of two defensive battlers should be at crease simultaneously
 
How many times has Cameron Green opened the batting at competitive level? How would you know if you never try?

I know its very difficult for you to see the wood from the trees, but try reading beyond the first sentence.
 
Cameron Green had never opened even in Aussie domestic yet he got promoted vs India and produced the goods ... It's thinking/logic like yours that's actually plaguing the team.

Afridi and Razzaq were never openers and were promoted up the order to better utilize their skillsets and it worked to a good extent under Wasim's captaincy. Heck Afridi came in the team as a leggie!

Expecting 50s from a guy who mostly comes to bat in the death overs is absurd. Yes he also failed twice in this series when he had time at the crease but that's hardly a large enough sample size.

1. Cameron Green is significantly younger and already has a record that Asif Ali couldn't possess in his wildest fantasies.

2. Opening isn't just "hit it over the infield" looool this shows how little you understand about cricket as a whole.

3. Afridi and Razzaq were openers. This mostly did not go well. I also remember Razzaq coming in up the order and scoring at a snail pace.

4. Given the length of time Asif Ali has been around i would expect at least one fifty. To not have a single one says enough let alone with how bad his stats are on the whole.

Anyway this is pointless discussion. Nobody will open with Asif Ali except a handful of emotional PPers who won't be listened to.
 
1. Cameron Green is significantly younger and already has a record that Asif Ali couldn't possess in his wildest fantasies.

2. Opening isn't just "hit it over the infield" looool this shows how little you understand about cricket as a whole.

3. Afridi and Razzaq were openers. This mostly did not go well. I also remember Razzaq coming in up the order and scoring at a snail pace.

4. Given the length of time Asif Ali has been around i would expect at least one fifty. To not have a single one says enough let alone with how bad his stats are on the whole.

Anyway this is pointless discussion. Nobody will open with Asif Ali except a handful of emotional PPers who won't be listened to.

No one cares about milestones besides Rizwan fans!

They care about wins and contribution towards victory. In that facet, Asif Ali definitely averages more than bottlers Rizwan and Babar
 
Questions are always about our batting and fielding.
 
It only takes an over to understand that Iftikhar Khusdil etc are not cut at international level, granted we dont have licensed hitters but that does not mean to continue with these failures. Pakistan are bound to lose 8 out of 10 times with this personnel
 
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