Pakistan Super League may cause further regression in Pakistan cricket

[Hawkeye]

May sound absurd at first, but seems like that is what's happening.

First class cricket - the backbone of any top cricketing nation, is put on a back-burner.

Team selections have primarily started to happen from the PSL pool of players. One performance there, and you're IN.

Domestic cricket is being ignored unlike anything in the past. Who's scouting? Who are the top domestic players?

Nobody knows.

Domestic players are now dreaming of playing the PSL as they think it's the only route to get selector's attention. And the only way to get into the Pakistan cricket team.

We used to bash the IPL for ruining cricket (until we had PSL). The direction of that bashing (which had died down) may just need to be directed at ourselves now.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

No lack of money will regress Pakistan cricket.

Can somebody delete this absurd thread .

 

[FastBowlingAllrounder]

PSL won't exactly regress our cricket. The only problem is our selectors need to understand that PSL players should be played in the T20I and ODI team and scout for Test players from FC cricket. The poor FC structure is regressing our cricket.

 

[Hawkeye]

PSL won't exactly regress our cricket. The only problem is our selectors need to understand that PSL players should be played in the T20I and ODI team and scout for Test players from FC cricket. The poor FC structure is regressing our cricket.

The bolded part is true.

And now, the already ignored first class structure is further being ignored.

Previously, FC was used to at least pick the players for the national team. That is no longer the case. You have to perform and become a one match wonder at the PSL.

And you're in.

See the issue?

Importance, priorities changed.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

The bolded part is true.

And now, the already ignored first class structure is further being ignored.

Previously, FC was used to at least pick the players for the national team. That is no longer the case. You have to perform and become a one match wonder at the PSL.

And you're in.

See the issue?

Importance, priorities changed.

Who exactly was a one match wonder in the PSL? Can only remember Shadab.

Even then he performed well over a season and did well in LOIs.

 

[Hawkeye]

Who exactly was a one match wonder in the PSL? Can only remember Shadab.

Nawaz and Imad are both PSL products.

Extremely low quality.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Nawaz and Imad are both PSL products.

Extremely low quality.

Imad had debuted for Pakistan before PSL.

Agree about Nawaz but he did well over a season. Also had performed in domestics.

 

[cricketindiafan]

PSL or any other domestic league helps provide a better living for professional cricketers in a country. It will never ever hurt a country's cricket structure. These leagues keep getting blamed for failures of a team but in long term, they give players financial security, better living standards and lesser worries about where the next meal was going to come from.

And the money generated only gets ploughed back into domestic cricket to provide better training facilities and coaches for the younger players. All in all, a win-win for everyone.

Only purists hate it.

 

[FastBowlingAllrounder]

The bolded part is true.

And now, the already ignored first class structure is further being ignored.

Previously, FC was used to at least pick the players for the national team. That is no longer the case. You have to perform and become a one match wonder at the PSL.

And you're in.

See the issue?

Importance, priorities changed.

Fair point. We are beginning to go down the Windies route then, great in T20s but not the best in others. We should look at Australia who pick players for certain formats picked on their performance in that format in domestic cricket.

 

[Hawkeye]

Imad had debuted for Pakistan before PSL.

Agree about Nawaz but he did well over a season. Also had performed in domestics.

Nawaz was never good enough. And the league propelled their status, stature, making them undroppable..

PSL or any other domestic league helps provide a better living for professional cricketers in a country. It will never ever hurt a country's cricket structure. These leagues keep getting blamed for failures of a team but in long term, they give players financial security, better living standards and lesser worries about where the next meal was going to come from.

And the money generated only gets ploughed back into domestic cricket to provide better training facilities and coaches for the younger players. All in all, a win-win for everyone.

Only purists hate it.

I agree that the league gives financial security to the ones selected.

Blaming only a particular league for failures is also not fair.

But in PAK, we're doing things in a horrible way. Our first class structure was already bad. Now it's even more ignored.

In IND's case, the IPL money is actually being spent on domestic/first class players and structures. Their salaries got a huge boost. If you play first class, you'll be earning a very handsome wage.

And your selections are still based on domestic cricket. A guy like Sarfaraz who was a GREAT performer in one the IPL seasons, could not find a place in the team.

Here, if any player performs in a season, we pick him in the national team.

Domestic cricketers keep rotting.

 

[cricketindiafan]

Nawaz was never good enough. And the league propelled their status, stature, making them undroppable..




I agree that the league gives financial security to the ones selected.

Blaming only a particular league for failures is also not fair.

But in PAK, we're doing things in a horrible way. Our first class structure was already bad. Now it's even more ignored.

In IND's case, the IPL money is actually being spent on domestic/first class players and structures. Their salaries got a huge boost. If you play first class, you'll be earning a very handsome wage.

And your selections are still based on domestic cricket. A guy like Sarfaraz who was a GREAT performer in one the IPL seasons, could not find a place in the team.

Here, if any player performs in a season, we pick him in the national team.

Domestic cricketers keep rotting.

We went through a similar experience when IPL was in its infancy. Guys like Jadeja, Manpreet Gony, Saurabh Tiwary, even Ashwin and Yusuf Pathan all got picked for India ODI side purely on the basis of IPL. Gradually that went away and now IPL performances can get you to the A sides but no direct ticket to national side.

 

[Cric1234]

Who exactly was a one match wonder in the PSL? Can only remember Shadab.

Even then he performed well over a season and did well in LOIs.

Shadab Nawaz Imad Asif others will get selected in future they play different formats aswell.
Shadabs performance excluding minnows is hardly great it's average at best.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Shadab Nawaz Imad Asif others will get selected in future they play different formats aswell.
Shadabs performance excluding minnows is hardly great it's average at best.

Imad is out of the equation. He had debuted before the PSL.

Shadab was picked in T20Is because he did well in PSL. That's the point is it not?

Same for Nawaz.

Asif was selected in T20Is because he did well in the PSL. He was selected in ODI'S because he also did well in the Pakistan Cup.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Nawaz and Imad are both PSL products.

Extremely low quality.

Don't see Imad getting a look in for Tests. Nawaz was tried and discarded for Tests soon after. Don't see him making a comeback to Tests soon.

FC cricket should not be responsible for who you pick for ODI's and T20is. LA and T20s should, respectively.

Don't really think the likes of Babar, Haris, Imam, Abbas, Bilal Asif are picked on the basis of their PSL performances.

The FC and LA structure needs to be improved. The day we start picking players for Tests based on PSL performances, we will have a big big fall.

 

[PakSarZameen]

Imam
Hafeez
Azhar
Haris
Asad
Babar
Sarfraz
Bilal
Wahab
Yasir
Abbas

This is the team that is playing the current test match. Now tell me which of these guys got selected due to their PSL performances?