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We're having some problems with the PP clock so posts are going in the wrong place. Please use this thread for the match.
 
score updates ?

anyone watching the match ?
 
Rana needs to get kicked out of from the Pakistani team. Yasir Arafat can do the job better than him :).

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Total 0 wkts, 9 overs 49
 
Rao git hammered for 9 runs, what is wrong with our bowlers, going to be a long world cup if they can't get there bowling right
 
Rana 36 runs 5 overs, ***, is he a int'l class bowler or has he been doing a lot of Lassi making
 
Pure hammering taking place at the mo 58/0 off 10 ovs for Canada.....what a rollicking start from them or poor bowling from Pak
 
rana is bowling well....less than 10 an over....great improvement...
 
we are losing the plot here guys, Canada on 60/= at the end of 10 overs....terrible, it cant get more worse than this....lets hope Danish bhai does something today
 
Rana should either bowl just at death or should just not play at all.
 
Let's not forget these are warmup matches, not real matches! Let's see if Rana can get his mojo back.
 
And that Rana is a proven performer in odis unlike others in the squad!

Canada have some good batsmen - Billcliff looked good in last WC and we all know Davison although his form has not been that spectacular of late.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Rana should either bowl just at death or should just not play at all.
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interesting idea ... cricinfo had an article that showed that rana was the best death bowler in the world... however our ultra-conservative team management would never try something like that.
 
Mercenary said:
Let's not forget these are warmup matches, not real matches! Let's see if Rana can get his mojo back.
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Well these matches are one where bowlers should be looking to gain rythme etc...

Rana seems to be continuing on as he has for last year.. bowling donkey drops and lollipops.
 
Mercenary said:
Let's not forget these are warmup matches, not real matches! Let's see if Rana can get his mojo back.
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If Rana is performing terribly in warm up matches then God help him when it comes to the real thing.
 
rana takes a wkt but quite expensive 38 from 6 overs and 1 wkt.
Gul has been great 11 of 4 overs.

Canada cruising nicely at 61/1 off 11 overs .
Kineria into attack now
 
Pakistan might as well play a 4 man spin attack of hafeez, malik, afridi, Kaneria with azhar or arafat been a third seamer with Gul/sami been
1st choice pairing.
 
Only one run given by Kaneria in first over and getting bowl to spin miles

even more than Shane warne

may god save Canadians batsmen from kaneria
 
kashif77 said:
interesting idea ... cricinfo had an article that showed that rana was the best death bowler in the world... however our ultra-conservative team management would never try something like that.
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6 overs 38 runs against canada, come rana get your act together.
 
sohaib17 said:
Only one run given by Kaneria in first over and getting bowl to spin miles

even more than Shane warne

may god save Canadians batsmen from kaneria
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How do you know he is 'spinning the ball miles'? Are you watching the match or what?
 
I nazir
Y khan
Moyo
Inzamam
S malik
Hafeez
Afridi
Akmal
Kaneria
Gul
Sami

I think thats best x1 we can put out from sqaud we have. we might as well just depend on spin.
 
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Amjid Javed said:
Pakistan might as well play a 4 man spin attack of hafeez, malik, afridi, Kaneria with azhar or arafat been a third seamer with Gul/sami been
1st choice pairing.
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no! i would continue with Rana. Winning doesnt matter, Rana needs to get his form back.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Pakistan might as well play a 4 man spin attack of hafeez, malik, afridi, Kaneria with azhar or arafat been a third seamer with Gul/sami been
1st choice pairing.
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i agree.
 
Majestic_Inzi said:
no! i would continue with Rana. Winning doesnt matter, Rana needs to get his form back.
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yeah and by then world cup will be over and pakistan will be back home! more chance of hell freezing over... :16:
 
UsmanCHADDA said:
How do you know he is 'spinning the ball miles'? Are you watching the match or what?
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man i am just sitting in my hotel in Jamiaca and my friends told me on phone

they updating is too slow
 
Rana has bowled 7 overs, which i think is about 2 too many, agree with most people on this board, think he needs to bowl as few overs with the new ball if he is going to be this expensive and bowl at the death
 
Man, if the Canadians are finding our bowlers so easy, then God Help us
 
Might aswell open the bowling with Rao in the next match. Rana has totally lost it, conceding 7 RPO against minnows is stretching it!
 
Mercenary said:
2 seamers?
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well lets see the options?

Gul - should do well

Rao, Rana, Sami, Azhar, Arafat...

doesnt exactly breed confidence those choices. If Wickets in these warm up games are anything to go by then maybe we should go with spin....!
 
Make me wonder why Adbur rehman was left out.. I said in another thread
is there any need for so many seamers in sqaud. To be honest they are all pretty similar bowlers interms of variety and average quality.
 
though he does have a younger brother that plays as well. not in this team though ...
 
Amjid Javed said:
Make me wonder why Adbur rehman was left out.. I said in another thread
is there any need for so many seamers in sqaud. To be honest they are all pretty similar bowlers interms of variety and average quality.
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not just the fact that he was left out ... but the guy who he was replaced by has thus far been horrid in ODI cricket (as he doesn't seem to know how to take a wicket before given up 100 runs).
 
Amjid Javed said:
well lets see the options?

Gul - should do well

Rao, Rana, Sami, Azhar, Arafat...

doesnt exactly breed confidence those choices. If Wickets in these warm up games are anything to go by then maybe we should go with spin....!
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i agree with amjad

1 nazir
2 yk
3 malik
4 inzi
5moyo
6hafeez
7 akmal
8 afridi
9 gul
10kaneria
11 azhar/arafat/sami/rana/rao whoever is in form
 
by looking at the way our bowlers and indian bowlers are bowling, i feel india have better backup bowlers than our team. we lost akthar (anyway he hardly plays, so i dont miss him) and asif, our bowling looks very weak.
 
I am sorry he gets a wicket and 5 runs for his over, but still a wicket, shows that Rao might be a better option than the incontinent Rana
 
Kaneria will need to lead the bowling attack with Umar Gul if we are to have a chance at the semi's.
 
Amjid Javed said:
well lets see the options?

Gul - should do well

Rao, Rana, Sami, Azhar, Arafat...

doesnt exactly breed confidence those choices. If Wickets in these warm up games are anything to go by then maybe we should go with spin....!
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Ok we pick two seamers and they bowl a max of 7 overs each. That leaves us with 6 overs of spin in the powerplays where better batsmen could inflict the sort of damage that would make Rana's performance today look economical.
 
alan donald on cricket show here just described Pakistan as " a very underated team...especially this world cup ", and he thinks they will get far...

just thought i'd let you guys know ...
 
Why did Gul only bowl 4 overs? I dont know if this is accurate (because im not watching the match) but it seems like Inzi brought on Rao to replace Gul when Rana was getting slaughtered.

Why???
 
Rana should not be given the new ball. I don't understand why our management continues with this. he is excellent later on but during the power plays, he gives away too much runs. Kaneria is bowling really really well.
 
saffer said:
alan donald on cricket show here just described Pakistan as " a very underated team...especially this world cup ", and he thinks they will get far...

just thought i'd let you guys know ...
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we could just hope he is right....
 
Nice Rao bowling well after a shaky first over, and Danish proving all the doubters wrong that he can play in the one day format.
I hate to say it, but Rao should definitely be given the new ball with Gul
 
Mercenary said:
Ok we pick two seamers and they bowl a max of 7 overs each. That leaves us with 6 overs of spin in the powerplays where better batsmen could inflict the sort of damage that would make Rana's performance today look economical.
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there should be two pace bowlers with an all-rounder.

Gul
Sami/Rana/Rao
Azhar/Arafat

and Hafeez/Afridi can bowl as well as any pacer in the first 20 overs.
 
I am happy with the current batting order. Hafeez coming in late is also a good ploy as he can hit the ball and we needed an specialist. of-course bowling is a concern though. Rana can not be dispensed with altogether, he is the best bowler with the old ball.

it would be difficult to accomodate both Kaneria and Afridi. Pakistan selction and leadership will really be tested here as tough decision will have to be taken. our bowling really looks suspect knowing the way Bob work Rana batting is valuable to him otherwise he was a gonner long time.

following combinations can be used depending on the conditions.

Hafeez, goes and we play both afridi and kaneria plus Arafat can be added in the squad suggested ab AJ. a hell of a difficult one but can be tried on if batting conditions are good and so are our batsman. still the most difficult one though looking at our bowling much needed.

kaneria goes in this one and we play three seamers the usual ploy when afridi comes back. nothing can be said about the tracks. fair assumption would be pacers will get some assistance especially with the new ball. problem is Kaneria will have to sit out our USP.

third one as suggested by AJ, but it can work in only favourable conditions otherwise we will be one bowler short and that would be one too many considering our current scenerio.

last option would be to send Hash. you cant beat him can you.
 
Well Kaneria gets hit for 8 runs in his last over, but still has a decent economy rate, hopefully he learns a thing or two today, hasn't played ODI in a long long time
 
Mercenary said:
Ok we pick two seamers and they bowl a max of 7 overs each. That leaves us with 6 overs of spin in the powerplays where better batsmen could inflict the sort of damage that would make Rana's performance today look economical.
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Well if needs be pakistan could possibly play a 3 seamer instead of a spinner. Maybe arafat/Azhar instead of afridi/hafeez etc...

Overall i wouldnt depend on Rana To do much, hes been poor for a while and doesnt seem to be improving.
 
Rao to play ahead of Rana.

I'd go for this lineup:

I Nazir
Y Khan
M Yousuf
Inzi
M Hafeez
S Malik
S Afridi
K Akmal
A Mahmood
RI Anjum
D Kaneria
U Gul

Subs: Y Arafat, M Sami, RN-ul-Hassan
 
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