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Pakistani cricketers sledging each other in PSL - Where's this aggression when they play for Pak?

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What do you guys think of Pakistani cricketers sledging each other constantly.

It doesn’t really look good if you ask me. They’re happy teammates in the national team and then they look like mortal enemies domestically.

And where’s all this aggression and attitude when they’re playing for the national team? Ive never seen this aggression when they’re getting sledged by the aussies.
 
It's all gimmicks, instructed by PCB to keep the tournament interesting for TV viewers... That's the least they can do otherwise it is a below average tournament in terms of performances
 
They do give it to everyone. I can recall Imad sledging Stokes and Amir/Starc- sledging each other.

Also Sarfraz with Guptill
 
Hasan Ali and Junaid always stare the batsmen with attitude, Shadab to David Miller.

Only soft player is Babar there is nothing wrong with that. Not everyone can be aggressive
 
What do you guys think of Pakistani cricketers sledging each other constantly.

It doesn’t really look good if you ask me. They’re happy teammates in the national team and then they look like mortal enemies domestically.

And where’s all this aggression and attitude when they’re playing for the national team? Ive never seen this aggression when they’re getting sledged by the aussies.

Sarfraz and Guptill say Hi.

Hasan and Amir also sledge


Good to see the 'nice boy' culture go away which was introduced by Misbah
 
It's so heartening to see players fight and show aggression a thing which was missing in the Misbah era.
 
What do you guys think of Pakistani cricketers sledging each other constantly.

It doesn’t really look good if you ask me. They’re happy teammates in the national team and then they look like mortal enemies domestically.

And where’s all this aggression and attitude when they’re playing for the national team? Ive never seen this aggression when they’re getting sledged by the aussies.

Amir fought with Starc last time we toured Australia.
 
Everyone keeps mentioning starc, guptil etc. But those incidents arent really much compared to the way these guys have been mouthing each other during this tournament.

If recall even Imad Wasim has been picking fights with his fellow national team mates in the last few matches.
 
Everyone keeps mentioning starc, guptil etc. But those incidents arent really much compared to the way these guys have been mouthing each other during this tournament.

If recall even Imad Wasim has been picking fights with his fellow national team mates in the last few matches.

What's the big deal? Why does everybody want a playing XI of snowflakes?
 
What's the big deal? Why does everybody want a playing XI of snowflakes?

That’s not what I’m saying.

If they want show aggression then please do.

But they seem to be more interested in sledging each other than sledging foreign cricketers when they’re playing for Pakistan.

Heck even Rahat Ali was sledging Imad Wasim the other day.
 
What do you guys think of Pakistani cricketers sledging each other constantly.

It doesn’t really look good if you ask me. They’re happy teammates in the national team and then they look like mortal enemies domestically.

And where’s all this aggression and attitude when they’re playing for the national team? Ive never seen this aggression when they’re getting sledged by the aussies.

Standard of English in the Pakistan team is poor and they're some timid kittens in that team like Babar, Shafiq and etc.
 
Get over it...,,Recall the days when you played against your friends on street didn’t you have such incidents?
 
Everyone keeps mentioning starc, guptil etc. But those incidents arent really much compared to the way these guys have been mouthing each other during this tournament.

If recall even Imad Wasim has been picking fights with his fellow national team mates in the last few matches.

Seems like you just want some Ahmed Shehzads in the team.

It's fine how it is atm. Performance is more important.
 
The current team does play with a lot of aggression. They can't mouth off because of their limited English.
 
OP is absolutely spot on. Some 2-3 incidents that are being mentioned have happened over the period of 2-3 years. And this is not even 5% of the amount of sledging they received from their foreign counterparts.

On the other hand, Pakistani players have sledged each other at least 10 times more just in last 2-3 WEEKS.

Sarfaraz who will probably puncher his lungs some day given his loud shouting at the youngsters, don't have the guts to sledge the foreign players. Yeah, he replied once to Guptil who probably was sledging him for a while - the world famous sledger Martin Guptil. LOL. Can't imagine him standing up to the real deal Aussies.
 
That’s not what I’m saying.

If they want show aggression then please do.

But they seem to be more interested in sledging each other than sledging foreign cricketers when they’re playing for Pakistan.

Heck even Rahat Ali was sledging Imad Wasim the other day.

International cricket you are more likely to face penalty than in PSL

so far not a single player has been banned for discipline despite the Wahab Shehzad incident in 2016 PSL match
 
Question is where was this attitude 4 years ago when Misbah was leader in charge?

This attitude still isn’t there. They’re not scared of each other so they’ll sledge one another everyday of the week.

In internationals other than a few occasions they’ve never really showed this much courage towards the opposition.

Again I don’t mind if these players don’t sledge at all. But if they all of the sudden look courageous and aggressive in the PSL then it looks a bit bad on them.
 
Limited vocabulary of English is one of the main reasons. They can't sledge the likes of Warner, Smith, Rabada etc in Urdu can they?

Also you need to have a gun team to sledge. You'll look pretty darn stupid sledging when the series shoreline reads 4-0 or 5-0.
 
This attitude still isn’t there. They’re not scared of each other so they’ll sledge one another everyday of the week.

In internationals other than a few occasions they’ve never really showed this much courage towards the opposition.

Again I don’t mind if these players don’t sledge at all. But if they all of the sudden look courageous and aggressive in the PSL then it looks a bit bad on them.

It pretty much is...Amir,Hasan,Sarfaraz are all fighters

It all depends on your captain and coach
The likes of Misbah and Waqar wanted the team to be good guys and shake hands with the opposition all the time.

That is not the case with Sarfi and Arthur.

Australians fight in BBL more than in international cricket

Gambhir Kohli incident in IPL is well documented

In leagues the rules are easier and getting banned in a fee matches wont make a difference as much as in international cricket
 
I mean its always nice when Shehzad is at the receiving end of it. I say more power to whoever is doing it against Shehzad.
 
People need to go easy on Shehzad, he is yateem and really needs a father figure...
 
I mean its always nice when Shehzad is at the receiving end of it. I say more power to whoever is doing it against Shehzad.

I thought the same until I saw everyone in the crowd make fun of him last Champions trophy. He literally looked sad and depressed whenever he was made to field on the boundary

After that I started to feel sorry for him at times:bm
 
Must say, Wahab Riaz does come across as a bit of a douche at times with his false sense of bravado against fellow countrymen

Sohail Tanvir swearing at Watson was gold though. Pakistani players and Shane Watson lol
 
Must say, Wahab Riaz does come across as a bit of a douche at times with his false sense of bravado against fellow countrymen

Sohail Tanvir swearing at Watson was gold though. Pakistani players and Shane Watson lol
brooo video?
 
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Imad is the most annoying imo. Rubbish player with a pathetic attitude to the game who struts around the field like he is some superstar. Want Karachi to get smashed just because of him.
 
Sledging is used for the wrong purpose. It should be to distract players from their concentration. Not to abuse them or show your superiority. Compare it to the two most popular board games: GO and Chess.
In Chess, the objective is linear motion and the destination clear, KILL the KING. It is a direct and Westernized approach to consolidate position and force. Cricket nations like SA and PAK,IND,BD,SL use this strategy. They throw abusive language, target the players’ family, his merit in the team and finally, his existence. This leads to a mirror effect which Robert Greene explains in the 48 Laws of Power. The opposition wallows to your level and nothing is accomplished because you cannot sustain the equivalent abuse.
In the Chinese game of GO, the objective is to obtain the SPACE of the BOARD. Each player is given characters and the board is white and black. Yet the motion is nonlinear, the strategy is to use your fluidity in such a manner that you can surround your enemy. They cannot possibly predict your next move. Cricket nations like AUS, ENG and to an extent the old school WI’s of the 80’s used this type of sledging. They use specific circumstances to pounce on the opposition. For example, Tito Best was batting and Freddie Flintoff standing at slip. After several deliveries, Flintoff remarked, “mind the windows Tito”. The result? Tito trying to smash the next ball for six and being stumped. Another example is Shane Warne bowling to Craig McMillan. Pitching a full length outside off, McMillan would pad rather extravegently, followed by snicker from the wicketkeeper Adam Gilchrist. A few deliveries later, Warne throws the ball that should be called a wide, yet McMillan, in an attempt to restore his damaged hubris, pushes the ball straight to Simon Katich at silly point. Now the sledging should be that you neither get fined by the governing body of the cricketing world (ICC) and to inflict a non-physical blow to your opponent simultaneously.
Now the current generation of AUS and to an extent ENG(Anderson,Stokes) are now following the Chess type strategy of sledging and paying the price. With multiple fines in this cash fueled era of cricket, the game is suffering from both fatigued governing and lack of passion on the field. Sledging is after all, just supposed to be communication between two teams playing a game (Test cricket) that less than ten nations play all together.
 
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