Pakistani drug dealer allowed to stay in UK after judges cite ADHD and ‘star pupil’ past

[KingKhanWC]

Strange case, he's been here since 7 years old yet has no British citizenship? If anyone

Do you feel immigrants who arent citizens should be deported when they commit crimes or is the judge correct to deny deportation based on him being good at school and suffering from some mental health issue?
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Pakistani drug dealer allowed to stay in UK after judges cite ADHD and ‘star pupil’ past

Pakistani national convicted of dealing class A and B drugs has avoided deportation after an immigration tribunal ruled that his removal would affect his mental health and noted his past performance as a “star pupil”.

The tribunal upheld Muhammad Izhan’s appeal against deportation after he was sentenced to 30 months in prison for taking part in what the court described as a “sophisticated” drugs operation between 2022 and 2023, The Telegraph reported.

The court was told he joined the drug ring because of his “inability to properly regulate his ADHD”.

Upper Tribunal Judge Luke Bulpitt rejected the Home Office’s attempt to deport Izhan, citing several mental health diagnoses and his school record.

Data revealed by The Telegraph last week showed Pakistanis accounted for one in 10 asylum claims in the past year, totalling more than 11,000
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The tribunal heard Izhan moved to the UK in 2010 at age seven. He had earlier been cautioned for shoplifting and for bringing a bladed weapon into school.

First-Tier Tribunal Judge Samina Iqbal found he had been “fully immersed in his school life” and had been a “star pupil”.

Judge Bulpitt said deportation would “have a negative impact on his mental health” and that Izhan would face “very significant obstacles to integration” if returned to Pakistan.

Pakistani drug dealer allowed to stay in UK after judges cite ADHD and ‘star pupil’ past

The tribunal upheld Muhammad Izhan’s appeal against deportation after he was sentenced to 30 months in prison for taking part in what the court described as a “sophisticated” drugs operation.

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[sweep_shot]

Criminal immigrants should 100% be deported.

They give law-abiding immigrants a bad name.

 

[IronShield]

What is his immigration status?

 

[KingKhanWC]

What is his immigration status?

Im assuming he's either full Pakistani citizen or pending British citizenship. They cannot deport British citizens who have no other dual citizenshiop.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Meanwhile

According to Samaa TV on FB

Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi held a key meeting with British High Commissioner Jane Marriott to discuss Pakistan-UK relations, security cooperation, and matters of mutual interest, officials said.
The discussions also covered the repatriation of Pakistanis residing illegally in the UK.
During the meeting, the Pakistani government formally requested the extradition of Shahzad Akbar and Adil Raja.

 

[IronShield]

Im assuming he's either full Pakistani citizen or pending British citizenship. They cannot deport British citizens who have no other dual citizenshiop.

He came here as a child, so yes he will have issues reintegrating as all his close family is in the UK. How will he survive out there or for that matter will Pakistan even take him back?

Judges would have taken all this into consideration. Popular narrative would be to deport but every case is different and nuances have to be applied. What if he literally has no one in Pakistan or for that matter Pakistani citizenship or passport, so you just dump him at Islamabad airport and expect him to make a life. Why should Pakistan take him back, they can justifiably say, you turned him into a criminal and expect us to rehabilitate him. No Thanks.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

British courts are very lenient lmao this guy got away with selling dope coz he has ADHD and was a star pupil.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

He came here as a child, so yes he will have issues reintegrating as all his close family is in the UK. How will he survive out there or for that matter will Pakistan even take him back?

Judges would have taken all this into consideration. Popular narrative would be to deport but every case is different and nuances have to be applied. What if he literally has no one in Pakistan or for that matter Pakistani citizenship or passport, so you just dump him at Islamabad airport and expect him to make a life. Why should Pakistan take him back, they can justifiably say, you turned him into a criminal and expect us to rehabilitate him. No Thanks.

We have laws in this country and the judges job is to apply them fairly. That is what has been done here.

We are generally quite lenient on young offenders in this country, and there are plenty of kids who have dropped out of school who end up running or dealing drugs. If he was a freshie immigrant I would be harsher, but sounds like this fellow is just another typical British drop out.

 

[KingKhanWC]

He came here as a child, so yes he will have issues reintegrating as all his close family is in the UK. How will he survive out there or for that matter will Pakistan even take him back?

Judges would have taken all this into consideration. Popular narrative would be to deport but every case is different and nuances have to be applied. What if he literally has no one in Pakistan or for that matter Pakistani citizenship or passport, so you just dump him at Islamabad airport and expect him to make a life. Why should Pakistan take him back, they can justifiably say, you turned him into a criminal and expect us to rehabilitate him. No Thanks.

There is no official extradition policy between Pak and UK however specific cases can be taken into consideration.

Sure there are issues as you pointed. However this kid was given asylum , a new life. In return it is him who decided to become a drug dealer of class A drugs, its not the state which made him this.

His actions would have caused addiction, mental issues, even possible death or jail for users he made money off. What about those British people? Shouldnt we care for them first over someone who was given a chance but instead decided on a life of crime?

 

[KingKhanWC]

We have laws in this country and the judges job is to apply them fairly. That is what has been done here.

We are generally quite lenient on young offenders in this country, and there are plenty of kids who have dropped out of school who end up running or dealing drugs. If he was a freshie immigrant I would be harsher, but sounds like this fellow is just another typical British drop out.

He's not British , hence the discussion over deportation.

 

[emranabbas]

Percent deportation

Should also deport immigrants supporting terrorist organisations like PTI

 

[KingKhanWC]

Percent deportation

Should also deport immigrants supporting terrorist organisations like PTI

Are you a British citizen? Is PTI a proscribed terrorist org in the UK?

 

[mazkhan]

Are you a British citizen? Is PTI a proscribed terrorist org in the UK?

All pti supporters alongwith the violent afghan thugs who have now arrived on a rapid dinghy are taliban sympathisers and even members

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

He's not British , hence the discussion over deportation.

I'm assuming there is no law which proscribes deportation for those with pending British citizenship otherwise he'd be on the plane already. The judge must consider him to be British enough since he arrived as a child and seems like he's basically grown up here.

The information in the OP article is a bit sketchy so if that's not accurate please point it out.

 

[emranabbas]

All pti supporters alongwith the violent afghan thugs who have now arrived on a rapid dinghy are taliban sympathisers and even members

Thanks for answering

Its all connected PTI > Afghanistan > India > Israel

All one big terrorist camp with different branches

 

[KingKhanWC]

All pti supporters alongwith the violent afghan thugs who have now arrived on a rapid dinghy are taliban sympathisers and even members

The Taliban has better grammar than this.

Are you a British citizen? Is PTI a proscribed terrorist org? Simple questions, answer these first.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Thanks for answering

Its all connected PTI > Afghanistan > India > Israel

All one big terrorist camp with different branches

Yet you were the one doing a bhangra along with anti-Pakistan hindutvas on the thread about Imran Khan's health issues. Are you a hindutva maybe?

 

[IronShield]

There is no official extradition policy between Pak and UK however specific cases can be taken into consideration.

Sure there are issues as you pointed. However this kid was given asylum , a new life. In return it is him who decided to become a drug dealer of class A drugs, its not the state which made him this.

His actions would have caused addiction, mental issues, even possible death or jail for users he made money off. What about those British people? Shouldnt we care for them first over someone who was given a chance but instead decided on a life of crime?

Lets keep in perspective he was 19/20 year old when he was convicted of these crimes, and hes 22 now. Not a hardened career criminal.

If he chooses to reoffend then sure deport him if Pakistan is willing to take him back.

You are missing the point, unless Pakistan deems him eligible for citizenship only then can he be deported back. If he has no paper work then it will not be possible.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Lets keep in perspective he was 19/20 year old when he was convicted of these crimes, and hes 22 now. Not a hardened career criminal.

If he chooses to reoffend then sure deport him if Pakistan is willing to take him back.

You are missing the point, unless Pakistan deems him eligible for citizenship only then can he be deported back. If he has no paper work then it will not be possible.

It would never have got to court if he wasnt eligible for deportation. The very reason why a judge had to make the decision. His decision reason is in the title thread, he never stated what you think but because the kid was good at school and has some mental health issue.

You're very naive if you think he will turn over a new leaf and will start feeding the elderly at Xmas. Drug dealers are hardened criminals, he will only be better at not getting caught now.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Thanks for answering

Its all connected PTI > Afghanistan > India > Israel

All one big terrorist camp with different branches

Any chance of you answering anything?

Are you a British citizen? Is PTI a proscribed terrorist org in the UK?

Btw Your name is spelled incorrectly too. It should be IMRAN like the great Imran Khan, not with an E

 

[mazkhan]

It would never have got to court if he wasnt eligible for deportation. The very reason why a judge had to make the decision. His decision reason is in the title thread, he never stated what you think but because the kid was good at school and has some mental health issue.

You're very naive if you think he will turn over a new leaf and will start feeding the elderly at Xmas. Drug dealers are hardened criminals, he will only be better at not getting caught now.

What would be his punishment under your prophets madina riasat ?

Gangster, thug and drug dealer

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Lets keep in perspective he was 19/20 year old when he was convicted of these crimes, and hes 22 now. Not a hardened career criminal.

If he chooses to reoffend then sure deport him if Pakistan is willing to take him back.

You are missing the point, unless Pakistan deems him eligible for citizenship only then can he be deported back. If he has no paper work then it will not be possible.

His formative years, i.e., at school seem to have been in Britain. I think the judge has just treat him like any other British good for nothing who gets into drug dealing, and let's face it, there are plenty of them.

If he was "vun thousand apalagies saar!" head nodding then I think the judge would have kicked him out.

 

[KingKhanWC]

What would be his punishment under your prophets madina riasat ?

Gangster, thug and drug dealer

Is this a riddle? I'll answer.

If the likes of Zardari or Nawaz were in the time of the Prophet(pbuh), they would be hanged as per Islamic law. Only a blind donkey thinks they are not criminals. If they were in the UK, they would be deported being major serious criminals. Hope that answers your question.

 

[sweep_shot]

I know this one Bangladeshi guy. He was dealing drugs in USA. He got caught and is now in jail.

USA should deport him and ban him from USA. Drug dealers should be banned from all countries.

I also propose executing all drug dealers in Bangladesh. These people generally don't get better. Better to put them down to protect society.

 

[sweep_shot]

British courts are very lenient lmao this guy got away with selling dope coz he has ADHD and was a star pupil.

Western courts (minus USA) are generally too soft. People take advantage of their soft laws.

Anyway, the guy is young. Maybe he can be given one final chance. But, this should be his final chance I guess.

 

[emranabbas]

Any chance of you answering anything?

Are you a British citizen? Is PTI a proscribed terrorist org in the UK?

Btw Your name is spelled incorrectly too. It should be IMRAN like the great Imran Khan, not with an E

this is why I changed it to "E" from "I" don't want to be associated with a terrorist organisation in any shape or form

 

[KingKhanWC]

this is why I changed it to "E" from "I" don't want to be associated with a terrorist organisation in any shape or form

Appreciate your honesty , changing it to the female version of Imran

 

[rpant_gabba]

There is no official extradition policy between Pak and UK however specific cases can be taken into consideration.

Sure there are issues as you pointed. However this kid was given asylum , a new life. In return it is him who decided to become a drug dealer of class A drugs, its not the state which made him this.

His actions would have caused addiction, mental issues, even possible death or jail for users he made money off. What about those British people? Shouldnt we care for them first over someone who was given a chance but instead decided on a life of crime?

They could put on a boat in the channel

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Western courts (minus USA) are generally too soft. People take advantage of their soft laws.

Anyway, the guy is young. Maybe he can be given one final chance. But, this should be his final chance I guess.

It's a natural progression of following libertarian values. If you are a Muslim you might not approve of such soft laws, but if you live there you have to abide by them. That is why I have no problem with this judge giving a lenient sentence. He is judging according to the values of his country. This is why whataboutism is so pathetic when Indians try to defend their rejection of their own supposedly secular values, then when challenged as what about Pakistan.

Every nation should be judged by their own values, not others.

 

[sweep_shot]

It's a natural progression of following libertarian values. If you are a Muslim you might not approve of such soft laws, but if you live there you have to abide by them. That is why I have no problem with this judge giving a lenient sentence. He is judging according to the values of his country. This is why whataboutism is so pathetic when Indians try to defend their rejection of their own supposedly secular values, then when challenged as what about Pakistan.

Every nation should be judged by their own values, not others.

Indeed.

These laws (whether soft or hard) do not affect me. As long as I can live well, that's all matters to me.

 

[sweep_shot]

It's a natural progression of following libertarian values. If you are a Muslim you might not approve of such soft laws, but if you live there you have to abide by them. That is why I have no problem with this judge giving a lenient sentence. He is judging according to the values of his country. This is why whataboutism is so pathetic when Indians try to defend their rejection of their own supposedly secular values, then when challenged as what about Pakistan.

Every nation should be judged by their own values, not others.

Indeed.

These laws (whether soft or hard) do not affect me. As long as I can live well, that's all matters to me.

Just wanted to add something.

I expect many western laws to get changed in 30-40 years. I expect the laws to get tougher.

I say that because immigrant populations in west are rising and law-abiding immigrants probably would want tougher criminal laws. They are likely to try to change the laws through legislations.

Visible minorities are already becoming MPs in parliament. Once they get bigger in numbers, they may add more stricter laws.