Pakistani media claims no casualties, Indian media claims 300 terrorists killed. Who do YOU believe?

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

Seeing as the Indian and Pakistani sides are claiming different things, my question to Pakistani posters is what do they honestly believe? Do they even think that there were JeM terrorists in Balakot? Do they think Pakistani media is falsifying reports or do they think it's the Indian side that's doing it or both?

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

None.

We have to wait.

 

[Varun]

The Indian media talks utter bakwaas.

Yet tonight I'm going to get some caramel popcorn and turn on the TV at 9 to watch Arnab froth and foam. Why? Because I have nothing better to do. There. I've said it.

 

[big_gamer007]

The Indian media talks utter bakwaas.

Yet tonight I'm going to get some caramel popcorn and turn on the TV at 9 to watch Arnab froth and foam. Why? Because I have nothing better to do. There. I've said it.

Hahaha make sure to keep ear plugs and aspirin on standby

 

[90MPH]

We have to wait until Bollywood releases a film and tells us exactly what happened.

Otherwise 3000 terrorists may have been killed, who knows.

 

[Major]

I bet cricketjoshilla believes all this. Why? because he sat at home read some news article on the internet, and would come on the forum and defend this by saying, Our COAS has said so thats why its the truth.

Anyways,

If People were killed, our media would had gone crazy about it thats for sure. So there was no attack, yes a payload was dropped that has been confirmed.

Now this could be interesting.

I dont know if Pakistan was involved in this, but India most probably did this because of the hysteria that has been created in India ever since the Palwama(or watever) attacks.

By dropping this payload carefully in a selected area which wouldn't harm any person and not give an indication for fighting, they could give out a fake news in India and satisfy the local population.

As we all know, it is the election year for India

Now i wonder if Pakistan knew about this and whether they allocated the location where the paylaod could be dropped, so that the mass hysteria that has been spread in India about the attacks could die down.

Thing is, while Airplanes have been roaming in the morning, the President of Pakistan didn't cancel his university trip he had today at 10 00 am. This payload dropping i think took place at 5 or 6 in the morning

 

[Major]

Also, if Indian airplanes did enter balakot without Pakistan knowing, this is quite ridiculous, Balakot is in KPK not even kashmir, and Islamabad isn't even that far if we talk about by Air.

 

[lahoriyah1234]

This scenario could have been avoided had india not did this over a political scoring for the elections. Killing your own jawans for the sake of elections is just pathetic. Modi BJP would have won elections regardless what situations they created in thinking it will help them for elections. Now they are causing unnecessary tension for new Pak govt who were just about to take the control of the country in a betterment’s for the country after 2 past corrupt govt era was ended.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Everything that's been going on for past few weeks is highly predictable.

I just hope Indians don't vote for the bona fide murderer, again!

 

[90MPH]

Everything that's been going on for past few weeks is highly predictable.

I just hope Indians don't vote for the bona fide murderer, again!

He is getting relelected no matter what.

If he got elected after the 2002 massacre then this is nothing.

 

[Sirris]

I don't believe JeM militants are gathered openly in such a big number anywhere in Pakistan. Let alone having multiple training camps. I believe most of JeM militants are currently operating and active in Afghanistan. Afghanistan has enough terrain under militant control to allow for militant camps without the need for having such in the middle of Pakistan. There might be many JeM sympathizers in Pakistan but there is difference in being a sympathizer and being actually part of a militant outfit.

Then again I am not part of an intelligence agency, if Indians had the Intel then I hope they gathered enough evidence over the years and have the proof ready for everyone to see. JeM were quick to accept Pulwama attack, they are also quick to accept any of their martyrs killed in the valley lets see if we get any response from them directly.

As a Pakistani the details about the casualties is secondary, the fact that our arch-rival was able to not just violate our airspace and drop bombs is enough to feel concerned and unsure. A response in equal manner is necessary. It doesn't have to be now and immediately but there must be one or DG ISPR loses all authority. All the ressources the nation sacrificed for the armed forces and nation's defense would be good for nothing.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

India are claiming they killed over 350 terrorists.

 

[PetroDollars]

so its been confirmed they droped payload to fly faster as they were being chased by PAF

 

[Major]

I don't believe JeM militants are gathered openly in such a big number anywhere in Pakistan. Let alone having multiple training camps. I believe most of JeM militants are currently operating and active in Afghanistan. Afghanistan has enough terrain under militant control to allow for militant camps without the need for having such in the middle of Pakistan. There might be many JeM sympathizers in Pakistan but there is difference in being a sympathizer and being actually part of a militant outfit.

Then again I am not part of an intelligence agency, if Indians had the Intel then I hope they gathered enough evidence over the years and have the proof ready for everyone to see. JeM were quick to accept Pulwama attack, they are also quick to accept any of their martyrs killed in the valley lets see if we get any response from them directly.

As a Pakistani the details about the casualties is secondary, the fact that our arch-rival was able to not just violate our airspace and drop bombs is enough to feel concerned and unsure. A response in equal manner is necessary. It doesn't have to be now and immediately but there must be one or DG ISPR loses all authority. All the ressources the nation sacrificed for the armed forces and nation's defense would be good for nothing.

wikileaks have confirmed in the past the presence of JEM millitants training camps in Balakot

 

[Sirris]

I bet cricketjoshilla believes all this. Why? because he sat at home read some news article on the internet, and would come on the forum and defend this by saying, Our COAS has said so thats why its the truth.

Anyways,

If People were killed, our media would had gone crazy about it thats for sure. So there was no attack, yes a payload was dropped that has been confirmed.

Now this could be interesting.

I dont know if Pakistan was involved in this, but India most probably did this because of the hysteria that has been created in India ever since the Palwama(or watever) attacks.

By dropping this payload carefully in a selected area which wouldn't harm any person and not give an indication for fighting, they could give out a fake news in India and satisfy the local population.

As we all know, it is the election year for India

Now i wonder if Pakistan knew about this and whether they allocated the location where the paylaod could be dropped, so that the mass hysteria that has been spread in India about the attacks could die down.

Thing is, while Airplanes have been roaming in the morning, the President of Pakistan didn't cancel his university trip he had today at 10 00 am. This payload dropping i think took place at 5 or 6 in the morning

Let see those given the responsibility to defend the nation have in the past allowed Americans to question the nation's integrity and use drones to strike when and where they want, then they allowed American navy seals to come in and travel as far as Abottabad and now we have fallen so low we are wondering whether they might have allowed the nation's number one enemy to violate over sovereignty drop some bombs and run away. How much more humiliation are we willing to accept. At the very least when they were making this screwed plan with the enemy they should have had something positive for Pakistan to be included in it like firing at the indian planes and narrowly missing or something.

 

[90MPH]

India are claiming they killed over 350 terrorists.

How can any intelligent Indian believe such ** media claims ?

If 300 were killed this will come out but at this time it’s seems completely unrealistic claim.

So guilable to believe anything thier media parrots.

 

[someone21]

What is Pakistan media history? For them they won the 65, 71 and even Kargil was a stalemate. So their track record is bad and have instead only covered up their losses.

 

[Major]

What is Pakistan media history? For them they won the 65, 71 and even Kargil was a stalemate. So their track record is bad and have instead only covered up their losses.

oh bhai, if there is an attack, our media will never cover that up.

Infact, not only would they show the dead bodies they would even find the relatives and ask thems stupid questions.

 

[yasir]

Also, if Indian airplanes did enter balakot without Pakistan knowing, this is quite ridiculous, Balakot is in KPK not even kashmir, and Islamabad isn't even that far if we talk about by Air.

Balakot, really?? That is more closer to GHQ PMA academy (Abbatabad) that Muzafarabad. This is way beyond Kashmir. It’s hard to believe Indian plans can come this deep.

 

[Major]

Balakot, really?? That is more closer to GHQ PMA academy (Abbatabad) that Muzafarabad. This is way beyond Kashmir. It’s hard to believe Indian plans can come this deep.

this is the main issue that needs to be address

Pakistani media has confirmed that payload has been found, but no casualties reported.

An Indian airforce plane coming in the KPK region is a big concern, and Pakistan should respond to this now

 

[Deewana Mastana]

How can any intelligent Indian believe such ** media claims ?

If 300 were killed this will come out but at this time it’s seems completely unrealistic claim.

So guilable to believe anything thier media parrots.

I am not Indian.

Neither said or claimed that I believe what they're media are saying.

 

[90MPH]

I am not Indian.

Neither said or claimed that I believe what they're media are saying.

I know sir, just a question for our resident Indians in PP.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

Who knows?

Here's an NY Times article on it:

"Western security officials have raised questions about the existence of a large-scale training camp, saying that Pakistan no longer runs such camps and that militant groups are spread out in small groups around the country."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/25/world/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir-jets.html

According to NY Times, Pakistan doesn't run any such training camps anymore, and that India may have been trying to show strength to their domestic audience while minimizing risk of retaliation by Pakistan.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Which country makes silly movies about fantasy surgeee-kal strikes?


I mean of the two who would you believe?

 

[Deewana Mastana]

I know sir, just a question for our resident Indians in PP.

Thought we knew each other quite well by now.

 

[Rana]

300 people being killed in 27 minutes of air time would be major news across the world. Both countries will say they are telling the truth

 

[Sirris]

What is Pakistan media history? For them they won the 65, 71 and even Kargil was a stalemate. So their track record is bad and have instead only covered up their losses.

Pakistani media has changed since ghe 70s and 90s. When they can opemly cover live terrorist attack on mehran base and other such incidents, i do believe they can cover this incident too. The nature of media as a while has changed due thanks to the internet.

 

[Sirris]

wikileaks have confirmed in the past the presence of JEM millitants training camps in Balakot

Wikileaks isn't a final authority and I'd need a liml tonthe direct source. It would also bee interesting to see in which year such a camp was open.

Thubgs were dramatically different in the 90s as compared to now. Had this been the 90s indians would be well within their rights to accuse Pakistani establishment of directly supporting Kashmiri militants. But things have changed since the early 2000s.

 

[90MPH]

300 people being killed in 27 minutes of air time would be major news across the world. Both countries will say they are telling the truth

Time isn’t the issue. If 300 were congregated in one building it’s possible.

However I just don’t believe this claim because this is not the modus operandi of these militant groups.

They always prefer to be in groups or cells of 5/6 people max so they don’t get caught.

 

[sjahmed23]

It's not even news here in America. If 300 people actually died cnn, msnbc, fox everyone would cover it. India put its pilot at great risk to drop bombs on trees now they have put the entire region at risk. Hopefully Pakistani armed force and nation will prove to the world they are bigger in stature than their neigbors and won't escalate situation further.

 

[Sirris]

The latest update is the the very same media outlet of JeM which claimed Pulwama attack and released the attackers pictures has released an audio tape of Massod Azahr's brother denying even a single casualty. If supposed 200 - 300 of his guys were killed there would have been no issue in accepting at least 10 dead bodies since these guys love to romanticize death and martyrdom.

Now the question is whether the Indians will give this claim the same importance which they gave to JeM when they accepted the Pulwama attack.

 

[JaDed]

Question is what Defense Ministry and IAF claims not India Today..

 

[Sachin136]

It's not even news here in America. If 300 people actually died cnn, msnbc, fox everyone would cover it. India put its pilot at great risk to drop bombs on trees now they have put the entire region at risk. Hopefully Pakistani armed force and nation will prove to the world they are bigger in stature than their neigbors and won't escalate situation further.

CNN, Fox, etc all have articles about the incident. It won't get much TV coverage but incidents in Asia rarely do.

 

[JaDed]

Who knows?

Here's an NY Times article on it:

"Western security officials have raised questions about the existence of a large-scale training camp, saying that Pakistan no longer runs such camps and that militant groups are spread out in small groups around the country."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/25/world/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir-jets.html

According to NY Times, Pakistan doesn't run any such training camps anymore, and that India may have been trying to show strength to their domestic audience while minimizing risk of retaliation by Pakistan.

[MENTION=144682]Sirris[/MENTION]
Same NY media:

A resident of Attar Shisha village inside Pakistan, about 2 miles from Balakot, said he was woken up by loud explosions at about 3:15 a.m. Tuesday. He was reached by phone, and asked to remain anonymous out of fear of reprisal by the Pakistani authorities.

The villager said that Jaish-e-Mohammed still ran a school in Balakot, but that the airstrikes missed the facility and hit an empty ravine instead, adding that there were no casualties he had heard of.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/world/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir-airstrikes.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It's not even news here in America. If 300 people actually died cnn, msnbc, fox everyone would cover it. India put its pilot at great risk to drop bombs on trees now they have put the entire region at risk. Hopefully Pakistani armed force and nation will prove to the world they are bigger in stature than their neigbors and won't escalate situation further.

Switched on Sky news UK at lunchtime, it didn't even get a mention. But it was considered that today might be even warmer than yesterday which was considered one of the hottest February days in decades.

 

[Syed1]

[MENTION=144682]Sirris[/MENTION]
Same NY media:



https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/world/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir-airstrikes.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

So now some random villager is the great source of news ) ) )



Uff the desperation of hindu yatris

 

[slipcatch]

Also, if Indian airplanes did enter balakot without Pakistan knowing, this is quite ridiculous, Balakot is in KPK not even kashmir, and Islamabad isn't even that far if we talk about by Air.

Balakote and balakot

 

[Sirris]

[MENTION=144682]Sirris[/MENTION]
Same NY media:



https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/world/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir-airstrikes.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Ok they have a school in balakot. They also have a big school named Markaz Usman o Adil in bahawalpur which is basically their headquater in Pakistan.

That's not the same as a terror camp with 300 fighters. At least not what i understand under terror camp. To me a terror camp would be a purley military enclosure where militants practice with weapons and explosives.

 

[JaDed]

So now some random villager is the great source of news ) ) )



Uff the desperation of hindu yatris

? The same villagers are saying no casualties occured..

 

[JaDed]

Ok they have a school in balakot. They also have a big school named Markaz Usman o Adil in bahawalpur which is basically their headquater in Pakistan.

That's not the same as a terror camp with 300 fighters. At least not what i understand under terror camp. To me a terror camp would be a purley military enclosure where militants practice with weapons and explosives.

True.. also is 300 numbers come from IAF/Indian Defense ministry?

 

[Civil]

This one is a classic Indian mythology tale.

None of the claims from official Indian sources match anything you see in the Indian media. Pak Army has played it well showing nothing to hide. Even Modi is not directly referring to the attack.

Why would 300 people congregate in a building near Loc while the world microscope is on Pakistan lolol?

Why don't Indians hold a press conference and just provide the coordinate location of the camps " they destroyed" as well and tell journos to go there? Show pics etc...Wouldn't that help in your case to isolate Pakistan by proving you had actionable intelligence? At least your first surgical lie had a presser by military.

point being that India is having to stoop to lying, which makes it even more sad for the memories of those soldiers in Pulwama. Seems all that can be confirmed is you violated airspace and dropped load on some trees.

 

[Major]

Balakote and balakot

oh ok, now that makes sense now

 

[slipcatch]

Whatever Indian government and media is claiming can be easily verified, only if it’s true.

But it’s really difficult to believe a desparate radicalized extremists Hindu nationalists government who tried to present fake Sir G Kal Strike as success.

And these hindutva and Bhakths daily cry about how Pakistani are so gullible.

Stop embarrassing yourself on a international forum, your country is becoming a spineless joke.

 

[JaDed]

Whatever Indian government and media is claiming can be easily verified, only if it’s true.

But it’s really difficult to believe a desparate radicalized extremists Hindu nationalists government who tried to present fake Sir G Kal Strike as success.

And these hindutva and Bhakths daily cry about how Pakistani are so gullible.

Stop embarrassing yourself on a international forum, your country is becoming a spineless joke.

Tbf no one cares about Indo-Pak issues internationally, Trump had one statement for us, neither does western media care which is fair coz its their media.
So everything here will just be he said she said..

 

[WebGuru]

I posted this tweet in another thread but the thread was closed. "It's very easy actually to confirm. India just needs to give the coordinates for the alleged camp they destroyed. Then take the foreign media to that very location and let them decide."

 

[Hitman]

Whom to believe?

India? Or a country where the most dreaded terrorist in the world was enjoing an excellent life until we know what happened?

 

[Sirris]

True.. also is 300 numbers come from IAF/Indian Defense ministry?

I don't know I don't follow IAF but that's the number I see being thrown around and if it is just a media claim I don't think majority of Indians are able to think critically on such issues and they will just eat it up. Hence my effort to counter the narrative.

Anyways JeM have now officially released an audio tape, of not some random fighter, but the younger brother of Massod Azahr himself denying any type of material or human loses. The tape is released from the same media channel from which they claimed the responsibility of Pulwama attack and from where they usually release the pictures of their "martyrs" killed in encounters with Indian forces. So the question is whether Indians have the critical ability to wonder if somewhere along the narrative they are being fed big doses of lies. And whether these lies contribute or prevent peace efforts in the region.

 

[AZulfi]

Balakot, really?? That is more closer to GHQ PMA academy (Abbatabad) that Muzafarabad. This is way beyond Kashmir. It’s hard to believe Indian plans can come this deep.

It is actually not Balakot which is in KPK but Bala cote which is along the line of control

 

[JaDed]

I don't know I don't follow IAF but that's the number I see being thrown around and if it is just a media claim I don't think majority of Indians are able to think critically on such issues and they will just eat it up. Hence my effort to counter the narrative.

Anyways JeM have now officially released an audio tape, of not some random fighter, but the younger brother of Massod Azahr himself denying any type of material or human loses. The tape is released from the same media channel from which they claimed the responsibility of Pulwama attack and from where they usually release the pictures of their "martyrs" killed in encounters with Indian forces. So the question is whether Indians have the critical ability to wonder if somewhere along the narrative they are being fed big doses of lies. And whether these lies contribute or prevent peace efforts in the region.

Their claim is a double edged sword... for Indians they have to believe it coz they took responsibility on first but India will claim no one will accept "the killing", from a Pak perspective who didn't believe the first one, this should fall to deaf ears too?

 

[AZulfi]

The Indian media talks utter bakwaas.


Yet tonight I'm going to get some caramel popcorn and turn on the TV at 9 to watch Arnab froth and foam. Why? Because I have nothing better to do. There. I've said it.

Arnab Goswami is a nutcase for sure. He talks utter nonsense in his show and some gullible people still believe him. Guests have to agree with his line of thinking. If they don’t they are quickly labelled as anti-Indian or something

 

[Sachin136]

It is actually not Balakot which is in KPK but Bala cote which is along the line of control

Most places are reporting that it was in Balakot, near Abbottabad, not in PoK.

 

[Sirris]

I don't know I don't follow IAF but that's the number I see being thrown around and if it is just a media claim I don't think majority of Indians are able to think critically on such issues and they will just eat it up. Hence my effort to counter the narrative.

Anyways JeM have now officially released an audio tape, of not some random fighter, but the younger brother of Massod Azahr himself denying any type of material or human loses. The tape is released from the same media channel from which they claimed the responsibility of Pulwama attack and from where they usually release the pictures of their "martyrs" killed in encounters with Indian forces. So the question is whether Indians have the critical ability to wonder if somewhere along the narrative they are being fed big doses of lies. And whether these lies contribute or prevent peace efforts in the region.

Let me also add one more thing this same media outlet of the militants accepted around 19 Feb that their commander Rashid was killed in an encounter in pulwama with Indian forces couple days after pulwama attack and posted his pictures. This at a time when India media got things mixed up and confused JeM's commander Rashid into already dead guy Ghazi Abdul Rahseed and were busy photoshopping his pictures.

So you can see why to me JeM's own media outlets are far more credible than Indian or even Pakistani media.

 

[WebGuru]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ABP News never misses a chance to mock itself. <br>This is an Old footage from 2016, filmed in Pakistan’s capital city, Islamabad. <a href="https://t.co/EbvpBPEmuD">https://t.co/EbvpBPEmuD</a></p>— Ajmal Jami (@ajmaljami) <a href="https://twitter.com/ajmaljami/status/1100273463095373825?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[DHONI183]

I´m not quite the best political analyst in the world, but IF indeed India had killed terrorists in Pakistan with these airstrikes, wouldn´t it have been in the best interest of Pakistan to first make claim about India´s violation of the Line of Control, and also of accusing them of having killed innocent civilians? Wouldn´t this have worked better for Pakistan? I mean, who and what exactly ascertains that certain dead bodies lying somewhere are of terrorists or of innocent civilians? Surely, even if they indeed had been terrorists, Pakistan could easily have cried about innocent people being targeted, no?

Either way, this is not going down the right way.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ABP News never misses a chance to mock itself. <br>This is an Old footage from 2016, filmed in Pakistan’s capital city, Islamabad. <a href="https://t.co/EbvpBPEmuD">https://t.co/EbvpBPEmuD</a></p>— Ajmal Jami (@ajmaljami) <a href="https://twitter.com/ajmaljami/status/1100273463095373825?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Irrefutable proof

 

[JaDed]

I´m not quite the best political analyst in the world, but IF indeed India had killed terrorists in Pakistan with these airstrikes, wouldn´t it have been in the best interest of Pakistan to first make claim about India´s violation of the Line of Control, and also of accusing them of having killed innocent civilians? Wouldn´t this have worked better for Pakistan? I mean, who and what exactly ascertains that certain dead bodies lying somewhere are of terrorists or of innocent civilians? Surely, even if they indeed had been terrorists, Pakistan could easily have cried about innocent people being targeted, no?

Either way, this is not going down the right way.

How will you get the names of those civilians killed?The will have to cookup names of local villagers? ISPR did the right thing but admitting no causality, shouldn't had accepted violation of airspace either.

 

[Sirris]

Their claim is a double edged sword... for Indians they have to believe it coz they took responsibility on first but India will claim no one will accept "the killing", from a Pak perspective who didn't believe the first one, this should fall to deaf ears too?

The JeM's media outlet in the past has accepted their losses. Once again they don't have to accept death of 300 fighters even 10 would do. The media outlet has accepted death of guys like commander Rashid or Masood Azahr's own nephew in the past. Among those 300 their must be some VIP top level commanders. I am sure many of JeM's own fighters are using their media outlet as a source of reliable news and at least some of JeM's militants in Pak would know they got hit and would see their leaders lying to them. Wouldn't that cause internal rift? Especially when the denial in clear words comes from the very top of the command chain and not some low level street commander. They glorify revenge and martyrdom so what's the reason behind not even accepting one dead guy.

If we accept that JeM's media outlet is prone to lying and can't be trusted with be it on the matter of accepting their losses or otherwise then their acceptance of Pulwama attack becomes dubious too! Who is to say it wasn't an inside job and JeM was quick to accept the responsibility to improve its status among the different militant groups. If JeM is prone to lying about their losses why did they accept death of their militants immediately after Pulwama when they could have enjoyed their victory a bit more and easily hidden 3-4 dead bodies. It is easier to hide and deny a couple of dead bodies than when the number is over 100.

I highly doubt if the number of JeM's fighter with actual military experience in both Afghanistan and Pakistan were more than 1000 and here we are talking about 300 of them gone all of a sudden. 300 of them hanging out in the exact same spot. This is not how militant groups operate and anybody with slight knowledge can see things not adding up. Afghan Taliban have over 30000 fighters from conservative calculations and even their military camps rarely has more than 100 fighters at the same time.

 

[Junaid_ahmed]

Whom to believe

Pakistan? Or the country where state matters are in the hand of illiterate, hysterical, high blood pressure patient.

 

[Sirris]

I´m not quite the best political analyst in the world, but IF indeed India had killed terrorists in Pakistan with these airstrikes, wouldn´t it have been in the best interest of Pakistan to first make claim about India´s violation of the Line of Control, and also of accusing them of having killed innocent civilians? Wouldn´t this have worked better for Pakistan? I mean, who and what exactly ascertains that certain dead bodies lying somewhere are of terrorists or of innocent civilians? Surely, even if they indeed had been terrorists, Pakistan could easily have cried about innocent people being targeted, no?

Either way, this is not going down the right way.

Well, dead bodies on Pakistani side would outrage the Pakistani public even more and would basically be the start of the war. Therefore it also serves the Pakistani side to deny any major casualties.

 

[Khan12]

Lol these idiots are using old footage and people here are actually believing them. Shows how deluded they are.

 

[Mani_si]

oh bhai, if there is an attack, our media will never cover that up.

Infact, not only would they show the dead bodies they would even find the relatives and ask thems stupid questions.

The attack was not on Pakistani Military or citizens. The attack was on a site which according to Pakistan does not exist and the terrorists killed also do not. So obviously your media and politicians will be denial mode. According to you guys even Kasab and Co were not pakistani

 

[Civil]

Where did Indian Airforce confirm coordinates of this "site"? So far we just see craters in a deserted forest. And also media still confused if it's in KP or AK. Why not just be direct about the location if you are India no real reason to keep it a mystery.

If our pak media is in denial mode surely India would know this would happen and embarass us further by releasing exact coordinates of the camp? Why haven't they?
Right ...because Indian jets basically tip toed LOC and then darted back

 

[slipcatch]

Most places are reporting that it was in Balakot, near Abbottabad, not in PoK.

Dude, you believe everything that try to malign Pakistan.
So you coming out here claiming it to be true itself disqualify this made fact.

Lol

 

[slipcatch]

Where did Indian Airforce confirm coordinates of this "site"? So far we just see craters in a deserted forest. And also media still confused if it's in KP or AK. Why not just be direct about the location if you are India no real reason to keep it a mystery.

If our pak media is in denial mode surely India would know this would happen and embarass us further by releasing exact coordinates of the camp? Why haven't they?
Right ...because Indian jets basically tip toed LOC and then darted back

It’s so cute and adorable to see chest thumper hindutva, Bhakths and naive Indian to believe in this fairytale.

I’m waiting for the movie to come out, we will know exactly how well this was sold by seeing the money that upcoming movie makes

What a joke of a country.

 

[Syed1]

It’s so cute and adorable to see chest thumper hindutva, Bhakths and naive Indian to believe in this fairytale.

I’m waiting for the movie to come out, we will know exactly how well this was sold by seeing the money that upcoming movie makes

What a joke of a country.

Kasam se don't know a more pathetic country. That makes fake surgical strikes and then chest thumps

 

[PakLFC]

Idiotic people. Had any people been killed there would have been footage off it. In today's day and age such things can not be hidden even if ten people die. Where are the remains of the victims?? Modi kills his own people to orchestrate a fake strike. Surely even Indian people can see thi

 

[Kashmirilion]

Whom to believe?

India? Or a country where the most dreaded terrorist in the world was enjoing an excellent life until we know what happened?

Whom to beleive.

Pakistan or the country who has a racist mass murderer as PM.

 

[Stewie]

I wonder how much time indian forces spent on pakistani soil while counting the casualties.. lol

 

[slipcatch]

Idiotic people. Had any people been killed there would have been footage off it. In today's day and age such things can not be hidden even if ten people die. Where are the remains of the victims?? Modi kills his own people to orchestrate a fake strike. Surely even Indian people can see thi

I got plenty of videos showing where the bombs were dropped by the local people. You can't hide dead bodies that quick or clean up that quick. lol

These things can't be hidden.
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] will try to troll
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] will try to spin it as if that is his job and sole purpose in life

rest of the bhakths will come of as 'naive'

 

[Syed1]

I wonder how much time indian forces spent on pakistani soil while counting the casualties.. lol

As per their media they were there for 21 minutes while our PAF was wearing bangles )

 

[Stewie]

India is shooting itself in the foot by continuing to humor the extremist and divisive politics of modi... pretty much like the US.. war mongering like this wont get you anywhere in this century.. learn from the mistakes of the US

 

[slipcatch]

As per their media they were there for 21 minutes while our PAF was wearing bangles )

They thought we thought it was UFO's, lol

 

[Mamoon]

The media on both sides is lying. However, the fact is that Indian fighter jets were deep in our territory and were able to go back to their country unscathed.

They could not have done that in a country with a strong defense. We are only good for running our mouths and are all talk.

It is hilarious how people are focusing on how India is lying about dropping a bomb and doing damage, but that doesn’t even matter.

The pertinent point here is that we allowed them to go back to India unscathed.

 

[Josh]

Indian media has to present high casualties and Pakistan has to cover up. This is just being boastful from both sides.

 

[BlackThunder]

As per their media they were there for 21 minutes while our PAF was wearing bangles )

Just the fact that Indian planes entered Pakistan airspace and dropped a bomb on Pakistan soil as confirmed by your military spokesman is a source of embarrassment for the Pakistani army and its supporters.

 

[90MPH]

The media on both sides is lying. However, the fact is that Indian fighter jets were deep in our territory and were able to go back to their country unscathed.

They could not have done that in a country with a strong defense. We are only good for running our mouths and are all talk.

It is hilarious how people are focusing on how India is lying about dropping a bomb and doing damage, but that doesn’t even matter.

The pertinent point here is that we allowed them to go back to India unscathed.

Finally India media have their source for the 300 terrorist killed claim.

 

[Rana]

The media on both sides is lying. However, the fact is that Indian fighter jets were deep in our territory and were able to go back to their country unscathed.

They could not have done that in a country with a strong defense. We are only good for running our mouths and are all talk.

It is hilarious how people are focusing on how India is lying about dropping a bomb and doing damage, but that doesn’t even matter.

The pertinent point here is that we allowed them to go back to India unscathed.

I dont think its as easy as that. This fighter jet was clearly on a suicide mission. Im convinced the PAF very sensibly let this plane go back knowing full well what steps it wants to take next.

 

[PakLFC]

I got plenty of videos showing where the bombs were dropped by the local people. You can't hide dead bodies that quick or clean up that quick. lol

These things can't be hidden.
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] will try to troll
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] will try to spin it as if that is his job and sole purpose in life

rest of the bhakths will come of as 'naive'

I think India has again been watching some movie. They were counting that "350 terrorists" were killed

 

[Syed1]

Just the fact that Indian planes entered Pakistan airspace and dropped a bomb on Pakistan soil as confirmed by your military spokesman is a source of embarrassment for the Pakistani army and its supporters.

Dropping a bomb is not the same as dropping "payload" while trying to get away in a haste.... but I do not expect a hindutva to know the difference.

 

[PakLFC]

They weren't deep... do you know where Bala Kote is? They were sent back as soon as they crossed the line off control.... Obviously the Reham Khan of PP will have the time of her life on this.

Yes we did allow them to go back. As they had not struck anywhere there was no reason to take them down and further escalate the situation. We did allow them to return for that reason.