Pakistan's 2nd Strike Capability: Successfully Tested Babur-3 Cruise Missile launch from Submarine

[Lonewarrior]

Pakistan launches first submarine-launched cruise missile Babur-3 (SLCM)

Babur-3 SLCM in land-attack mode, is capable of delivering various types of payloads and will provide Pakistan with a Credible Second Strike Capability, augmenting deterrence. While the pursuit and now the successful attainment of a second strike capability by Pakistan represents a major scientific milestone, it is manifestation of the strategy of measured response to nuclear strategies and postures being adopted in Pakistan’s neighborhood.

https://www.samaa.tv/pakistan/2017/01/pakistan-launches-first-submarine-launched-cruise-missile-babur-3/

 

[Lonewarrior]

Congrats to Pakistan .....

 

[Saeed]

Nice, if it prevents war then I am all for it. I just hope they remain in safe and responsible hands. So there is less chance of war right? Pakistan should now focus on Education, infrastructure and health care.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Great. Now the enemies will think twice before messing with Pakistan.

 

[Madplayer]

Nice, if it prevents war then I am all for it. I just hope they remain in safe and responsible hands. So there is less chance of war right? Pakistan should now focus on Education, infrastructure and health care.

I think it already has prevented atleast one war.

 

[Pakistanian]

Now they should build an aircraft carrier.

 

[Saeed]

Now they should build an aircraft carrier.

For what? Aircraft carriers are for countries that want global empire. That shouldn't be Pakistan's goal.

 

[PakLFC]

We know Pak can look after itself. This has been proved enough times whenever India has threatened to attack by amassing troops and ammunition at the border only to return frustrated.

 

[Pakistanian]

For what? Aircraft carriers are for countries that want global empire. That shouldn't be Pakistan's goal.

Pakistani empire isn't a bad idea

 

[Lonewarrior]

Now they should build an aircraft carrier.

For what? Aircraft carriers are for countries that want global empire. That shouldn't be Pakistan's goal.

Pakistan dont need "White Elephant" aka Aircraft carrier.... its not pakistan's doctroine ... IMO what pakistan need its own Nuclear Submarine .....

 

[Pakpak]

Pakistan dont need "White Elephant" aka Aircraft carrier.... its not pakistan's doctroine ... IMO what pakistan need its own Nuclear Submarine .....

Ditto. We have no problem with anyone other than India, and with India being right next to us means having an aircraft carrier would be pointless.

 

[161]

Good but need to increase its range.

Also submarine launched nukes (second strike weapons) are a stabilizing factor and make nuclear war less likely.

 

[MSaad1237]

Indian media is claiming that the missile launch was fake and was done using computer animation.

LMAO.

Guess only the 'Surgical Strikes' were real then.. smh.

 

[MSaad1237]

Here's the video of the test launch.

 

[GujjarLife]

Indian media is claiming that the missile launch was fake and was done using computer animation.

LMAO.

Guess only the 'Surgical Strikes' were real then.. smh.

I saw that as well. Apparently a guy from an Indian defence forum was up all night studying the video and concluded that the test was fake. He is their 'source'.

Im still waiting for footage from these 'Sir-Jeecal' strikes to be released.

 

[Lonewarrior]

LOL at the so called Indian "Expert" ....

meanwhile in US .....

a top American official has said while responding to Pakistan’s test-firing of its first nuclear-capable submarine cruise missile. “We have seen reports of this missile launch – submarine-launched missile,” State Department Spokesman John Kirby told reporters in response to a question on Pakistan.

http://indianexpress.com/article/world/us-urges-nuclear-weapons-states-to-exercise-restraint-white-house-4467323/

 

[SL_Fan]

Pakistan's Babur Missile Test Claim May Be Fake, Navy Sources Tell NDTV

A day after Pakistan tweeted a video of what it claimed was the test launch of its Babur missile, claiming a giant leap in its naval nuclear programme, top sources have said that the video may be fudged.

The video showed the missile exiting the water after apparently being launched from a submarine, cruising towards and then striking its target.

Oddly, two missiles, not one, are seen in the video; one missile that emerges from the water is grey and another shown in a subsequent shot is orange.

Sources in the Indian Navy, which monitors such activity, have confirmed to NDTV that there was no missile test off the coast of Pakistan yesterday.

The video may have older footage, they say.

While Pakistan claimed launching the missile from a submarine yesterday, the Navy is convinced the test shown in the video is from a submerged floating launch test platform which measures various parameters of the missile once it's launched underwater. Integration of the missile with Pakistan fleet of Agosta 90B submarine is unlikely to have taken place.

On Monday, Pakistan claimed its "first successful test of the Babur missile" implying that it has completed its nuclear triad since it already has land-based ballistic missiles as well as tactical nuclear bombs that it can drop from its fighter aircraft.

The Babur has a range of at least 450 km.

Pakistan's military media wing was quoted by Reuters as saying: "Pakistan eyes this hallmark development as a step towards reinforcing the policy of credible minimum deterrence."

Link

 

[GujjarLife]

Pakistan's Babur Missile Test Claim May Be Fake, Navy Sources Tell NDTV

A day after Pakistan tweeted a video of what it claimed was the test launch of its Babur missile, claiming a giant leap in its naval nuclear programme, top sources have said that the video may be fudged.

The video showed the missile exiting the water after apparently being launched from a submarine, cruising towards and then striking its target.

Oddly, two missiles, not one, are seen in the video; one missile that emerges from the water is grey and another shown in a subsequent shot is orange.

Sources in the Indian Navy, which monitors such activity, have confirmed to NDTV that there was no missile test off the coast of Pakistan yesterday.

The video may have older footage, they say.

While Pakistan claimed launching the missile from a submarine yesterday, the Navy is convinced the test shown in the video is from a submerged floating launch test platform which measures various parameters of the missile once it's launched underwater. Integration of the missile with Pakistan fleet of Agosta 90B submarine is unlikely to have taken place.

On Monday, Pakistan claimed its "first successful test of the Babur missile" implying that it has completed its nuclear triad since it already has land-based ballistic missiles as well as tactical nuclear bombs that it can drop from its fighter aircraft.

The Babur has a range of at least 450 km.

Pakistan's military media wing was quoted by Reuters as saying: "Pakistan eyes this hallmark development as a step towards reinforcing the policy of credible minimum deterrence."

Link

Only the surgical strike was real.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Pakistan's Babur Missile Test Claim May Be Fake, Navy Sources Tell NDTV

A day after Pakistan tweeted a video of what it claimed was the test launch of its Babur missile, claiming a giant leap in its naval nuclear programme, top sources have said that the video may be fudged.

The video showed the missile exiting the water after apparently being launched from a submarine, cruising towards and then striking its target.

Oddly, two missiles, not one, are seen in the video; one missile that emerges from the water is grey and another shown in a subsequent shot is orange.

Sources in the Indian Navy, which monitors such activity, have confirmed to NDTV that there was no missile test off the coast of Pakistan yesterday.

The video may have older footage, they say.

While Pakistan claimed launching the missile from a submarine yesterday, the Navy is convinced the test shown in the video is from a submerged floating launch test platform which measures various parameters of the missile once it's launched underwater. Integration of the missile with Pakistan fleet of Agosta 90B submarine is unlikely to have taken place.

On Monday, Pakistan claimed its "first successful test of the Babur missile" implying that it has completed its nuclear triad since it already has land-based ballistic missiles as well as tactical nuclear bombs that it can drop from its fighter aircraft.

The Babur has a range of at least 450 km.

Pakistan's military media wing was quoted by Reuters as saying: "Pakistan eyes this hallmark development as a step towards reinforcing the policy of credible minimum deterrence."

Link

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present you the Indian "Expert" on the twitter who exposed Pakistani test is fake .....

So Indian public should believe on him .... dont need to believe what US Department said ..... )

 

[akki]

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present you the Indian "Expert" on the twitter who exposed Pakistani test is fake .....

So Indian public should believe on him .... dont need to believe what US Department said ..... )

what did us department said officially?

 

[Lonewarrior]

what did us department said officially?

a top American official has said while responding to Pakistan’s test-firing of its first nuclear-capable submarine cruise missile. “We have seen reports of this missile launch – submarine-launched missile,” State Department Spokesman John Kirby told reporters in response to a question on Pakistan.

http://indianexpress.com/article/world/us-urges-nuclear-weapons-states-to-exercise-restraint-white-house-4467323/

 

[Saeed]

I don't know why we even care about what Indian media says? To them Pakistan is a stone age country that can do nothing on its own. India's defense spending and thousands of troops in Kashmir speaks louder then what their media says.

 

[GujjarLife]

Lol @ indian media. They are just as mouthpiece for the Indian establishment. Again, Im still waiting for footage from the Sir-G-Kaal strikes to be released.

 

[Lonewarrior]

I don't know why we even care about what Indian media says? To them Pakistan is a stone age country that can do nothing on its own. India's defense spending and thousands of troops in Kashmir speaks louder then what their media says.

no one cares what india thinks. its just a fun to watch ther media like this .... its full of comedy .....
but they forgt something that it was a first test of babur III from Submarine .... thre will be more test from Submarine in coming years ..... thn what they gonna tell thre public ? ....

 

[petercat]

http://indianexpress.com/article/world/us-urges-nuclear-weapons-states-to-exercise-restraint-white-house-4467323/

He says he has seen reports of the test launch.He didnt say it was genuine or fake.Neither will any spokesman of another country confirm such a report.

Can you tell me from which place in Indian Ocean the test was done?

 

[petercat]

no one cares what india thinks. its just a fun to watch ther media like this .... its full of comedy .....
but they forgt something that it was a first test of babur III from Submarine .... thre will be more test from Submarine in coming years ..... thn what they gonna tell thre public ? ....

Your own media said this was not from a submarine but submerged platform.No current Pakistani submarine can launch a SLCM,the newly ordered yet to be delivered Chinese Subs can.

 

[petercat]

what did us department said officially?

The US state department said nothing other than that they have seen some reports of such a test.Nothing more.

 

[Saeed]

Your own media said this was not from a submarine but submerged platform.No current Pakistani submarine can launch a SLCM,the newly ordered yet to be delivered Chinese Subs can.

Allright its fake. Now lets worry about real events.

 

[LordJames]

Your own media said this was not from a submarine but submerged platform.No current Pakistani submarine can launch a SLCM,the newly ordered yet to be delivered Chinese Subs can.

Here is the news being reported by Jane:

http://www.janes.com/article/66793/...ear-capable-submarine-launched-cruise-missile

And CNN:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/10/asia/pakistan-submarine-missile/

You are right that they are reporting the news.

Here is ISPR reporting that it was Submarine launched versus whichever Media you are quoting:

https://twitter.com/OfficialDGISPR/status/818427713627295745/video/1

So lets have a technical discussion, what makes you think that Pakistani SSK Agosta 90B cannot launch SLCM? Remember hard technical reasons.

Thanks

 

[srh]

Nice, if it prevents war then I am all for it. I just hope they remain in safe and responsible hands. So there is less chance of war right? Pakistan should now focus on Education, infrastructure and health care.

+1. Its unfortunate that Pakistan has such a bad neighbour who is always looking to hurt it but Pakistan should not spend all its energy on combating that neighbour. Pakistan should spend more on the well being of its own people. What is the point of saving country when the people inside are not happy?

 

[Lonewarrior]

He says he has seen reports of the test launch.He didnt say it was genuine or fake.Neither will any spokesman of another country confirm such a report.

Can you tell me from which place in Indian Ocean the test was done?

some update for your media experts-

US State Department spokesman John Kirby has said that we were aware of Pakistan’s Cruise missile Babur-III tests.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2017/01/11/nuclear-powers-should-be-careful-in-missile-tests-us/

Your own media said this was not from a submarine but submerged platform.No current Pakistani submarine can launch a SLCM,the newly ordered yet to be delivered Chinese Subs can.

who said it wasnt from Sub ? can you give me the name of pakistani media ? when we will have Chinese Sub thn we will launch SLBM too .... right now we dont have any chinese Sub ....

also look at this report-

Turkish state-owned defense contractor STM has won a contract for the mid-life upgrade of three Agosta 90B-class (aka Khalid-class) diesel-electric attack submarines equipped with air-independent propulsion systems currently in service with the Pakistan Navy, a June 22 STM press statement reveals.

http://thediplomat.com/2016/06/confirmed-turkey-to-modernize-pakistans-attack-submarine-fleet/

Bbaur I-II-III is based on the (US) Tomahawk tech .... NATO shares the Tech with STM ....
the standard Agosta submarine cant launch SLCM ... but with modification it can do ..... Pakistan got Agosta Subs with ToT .... if it wasnt the case thn we cant give the modification deal to STM .... Agosta-90Bs have standard 533mm torpedo tubes, and Babur - III is 522mm ... so its not difficult to understand .... we ha modified the Agosta Subs from last one decade without french help also we have Cruise missile tech from last one Decade or so .... now we can modifiy or upgrade them without others assistance ....

The US state department said nothing other than that they have seen some reports of such a test.Nothing more.

you do know that US is very much aware of Pakistani missile tech , more thn your Indian media/experts ....
from where they got the reports of missile test ? only from pakistani media or ISPR ? .... do you want to say that they rely only on pakistani media/ISPR reports .... ?

whatever he said, he didnt said on his own .... they have ther own Intel reports to verify it, they dont need Pakistani/ISPR reports ....
they have ther own sources to confirm about test ....

this is Boeing RC-135S of United States Air Force (USAF) monitored Pakistani missile tests in November 2014/15.
its always roaming around whenever we issue the NOTAM or test our missile .....

LOL at Indian "Experts" .....

 

[petercat]

some update for your media experts-



http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2017/01/11/nuclear-powers-should-be-careful-in-missile-tests-us/





who said it wasnt from Sub ? can you give me the name of pakistani media ? when we will have Chinese Sub thn we will launch SLBM too .... right now we dont have any chinese Sub ....

also look at this report-


http://thediplomat.com/2016/06/confirmed-turkey-to-modernize-pakistans-attack-submarine-fleet/

Bbaur I-II-III is based on the (US) Tomahawk tech .... NATO shares the Tech with STM ....
the standard Agosta submarine cant launch SLCM ... but with modification it can do ..... Pakistan got Agosta Subs with ToT .... if it wasnt the case thn we cant give the modification deal to STM .... Agosta-90Bs have standard 533mm torpedo tubes, and Babur - III is 522mm ... so its not difficult to understand .... we ha modified the Agosta Subs from last one decade without french help also we have Cruise missile tech from last one Decade or so .... now we can modifiy or upgrade them without others assistance ....



you do know that US is very much aware of Pakistani missile tech , more thn your Indian media/experts ....
from where they got the reports of missile test ? only from pakistani media or ISPR ? .... do you want to say that they rely only on pakistani media/ISPR reports .... ?

whatever he said, he didnt said on his own .... they have ther own Intel reports to verify it, they dont need Pakistani/ISPR reports ....
they have ther own sources to confirm about test ....

this is Boeing RC-135S of United States Air Force (USAF) monitored Pakistani missile tests in November 2014/15.
its always roaming around whenever we issue the NOTAM or test our missile .....

LOL at Indian "Experts" .....

The US spokesman said nothing more than "He has seen reports of the test".He made no observations regarding whether the tests were genuine or not.The US have their intel reports,but they dont share it through spokesmen.Stop clutching at straws.

The ISPR press release made no mention of any Agusta 90B submarine.

The press release also said that the test was done from an undisclosed location in Indian Ocean.How can the location is undisclosed,as you yourself say that the location has to be disclosed to issue a NOTAM.

https://www.ispr.gov.pk/front/main.asp?o=t-press_release&id=3672#pr_link3672

Here is the ISPR press release.

 

[petercat]

Here is the news being reported by Jane:

http://www.janes.com/article/66793/...ear-capable-submarine-launched-cruise-missile

And CNN:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/10/asia/pakistan-submarine-missile/

You are right that they are reporting the news.

Here is ISPR reporting that it was Submarine launched versus whichever Media you are quoting:

https://twitter.com/OfficialDGISPR/status/818427713627295745/video/1

So lets have a technical discussion, what makes you think that Pakistani SSK Agosta 90B cannot launch SLCM? Remember hard technical reasons.

Thanks

It is because the Agosta is not made to fire SLCMs.It has equipment to fire Torpedoes and Exocets not SLCMs.

 

[adit_sh]

Lol @ indian media. They are just as mouthpiece for the Indian establishment. Again, Im still waiting for footage from the Sir-G-Kaal strikes to be released.

Why dude ! just to trash it as doctored ?

 

[Lonewarrior]

The US spokesman said nothing more than "He has seen reports of the test".He made no observations regarding whether the tests were genuine or not.The US have their intel reports,but they dont share it through spokesmen.Stop clutching at straws.

The ISPR press release made no mention of any Agusta 90B submarine.

The press release also said that the test was done from an undisclosed location in Indian Ocean.How can the location is undisclosed,as you yourself say that the location has to be disclosed to issue a NOTAM.

https://www.ispr.gov.pk/front/main.asp?o=t-press_release&id=3672#pr_link3672

Here is the ISPR press release.

LOL... now you are clutching th straws. do you even know what are you talking about ? .... if you dont know about something thn dont talk about it.... India and Pakistan have no agreement to issue the test details before the testing of "Cruise Missiles" ... the agreement is only for Ballisitc missiles.
and also thres no need to issue NOTAM for each and every test .... you can ask this to any defence analyst.

secondly, if the test was fromt submerged platform thn there should be tug Boats with/around platform .... thres nothing in the Video or Pics .... and if it wasnt submerged platform thn the test can only be conducted from Agosta Subs.

the US knows about test... they dont tell it.

 

[Lonewarrior]

It is because the Agosta is not made to fire SLCMs.It has equipment to fire Torpedoes and Exocets not SLCMs.

Do you even read what i wrote in my previous posts, if not thn read it again ....

also look at this report-

http://thediplomat.com/2016/06/confirmed-turkey-to-modernize-pakistans-attack-submarine-fleet/

Bbaur I-II-III is based on the (US) Tomahawk tech .... NATO shares the Tech with STM .... mostly US tech can be integrated with NATO tech ....

the standard Agosta submarine cant launch SLCM ... but with modification it can do ..... Pakistan got Agosta Subs with ToT .... if it wasnt the case thn we cant give the modification deal to STM .... Agosta-90Bs have standard 533mm torpedo tubes, and Babur - III is 522mm ... so its not difficult to understand .... we ha modified the Agosta Subs from last one decade without french help also we have Cruise missile tech from last one Decade or so .... now we can modifiy or upgrade them without others assistance ....

dont tell me you hav never seen a cruise missile launch from torpedo tubes ....

(US) Tomahawk launch from torpedo tubes-

tomahawk canister for torpedo tubes-

you do know that US is very much aware of Pakistani missile tech , more thn your Indian media/experts ....
from where they got the reports of missile test ? only from pakistani media or ISPR ? .... do you want to say that they rely only on pakistani media/ISPR reports .... ?

whatever he said, he didnt said on his own .... they have ther own Intel reports to verify it, they dont need Pakistani/ISPR reports ....
they have ther own sources to confirm about test ....

This Baby is roaming around on the arabian sea/Indian ocean for some "reasons" whenever we test the missiles ....

 

[street cricketer]

Got interested in this military warfare stuff for a shortwhile but eventually grew bored of it.

Cricket is the real deal!

Pakistanis, get ready for June 04

 

[LordJames]

It is because the Agosta is not made to fire SLCMs.It has equipment to fire Torpedoes and Exocets not SLCMs.

It was 4 Torpedo tubes which can be used (and adapted) to fire anything as [MENTION=140488]Lonewarrior[/MENTION] has pointed out. If you would have stated the opinion of the Indian expert on NDTV that SUBTICS command and control system is copyrighted and Babur cannot be integrated into it you would have made a little more sense.

The answer to the second objection is that SUBTICS command and control system is integrated with Exocet so when launched the sub can fire and track all the way.

In the case of SLCM Agosta will fire but not natively be able to track using its own SUBTICS command and control system...I would have give you that point because I don't know if Pakistanees have hacked it or not.

Once launched it is like GLCM and navigation and control systems "can" be land based.

 

[petercat]

LOL... now you are clutching th straws. do you even know what are you talking about ? .... if you dont know about something thn dont talk about it.... India and Pakistan have no agreement to issue the test details before the testing of "Cruise Missiles" ... the agreement is only for Ballisitc missiles.
and also thres no need to issue NOTAM for each and every test .... you can ask this to any defence analyst.

secondly, if the test was fromt submerged platform thn there should be tug Boats with/around platform .... thres nothing in the Video or Pics .... and if it wasnt submerged platform thn the test can only be conducted from Agosta Subs.

the US knows about test... they dont tell it.

I know what i am talking about,dont need to tell me what i can talk about what i cannot.

NOTAM has to be issued for all such aerial tests and also NAVAREA.Its hilarious that you are saying there is no need to file them.

The ISPR released said submerged platform.

The US knows and it hasnot said whether it was genuine or fake so stop trying to bring its spokesman's statement like you did.

 

[petercat]

It was 4 Torpedo tubes which can be used (and adapted) to fire anything as [MENTION=140488]Lonewarrior[/MENTION] has pointed out. If you would have stated the opinion of the Indian expert on NDTV that SUBTICS command and control system is copyrighted and Babur cannot be integrated into it you would have made a little more sense.

The answer to the second objection is that SUBTICS command and control system is integrated with Exocet so when launched the sub can fire and track all the way.

In the case of SLCM Agosta will fire but not natively be able to track using its own SUBTICS command and control system...I would have give you that point because I don't know if Pakistanees have hacked it or not.

Once launched it is like GLCM and navigation and control systems "can" be land based.

SUBTICS handles all weapons and command control function of the 90B.Thats why i said that 90B isnt made to fire SLCMs.

 

[Lonewarrior]

I know what i am talking about,dont need to tell me what i can talk about what i cannot.

NOTAM has to be issued for all such aerial tests and also NAVAREA.Its hilarious that you are saying there is no need to file them.

The ISPR released said submerged platform.

The US knows and it hasnot said whether it was genuine or fake so stop trying to bring its spokesman's statement like you did.

ye le bhai tera NAVEREA .... NOTAM was also issued...

Babur - III

https://www.paknavy.gov.pk/securite/20161226SEC%20437.txt

the test took place in last december 27-28 (2016) .... the details of this test only issued few days ago .... HAPPY ?

also Janes, BBC, CNN every Int news source said it was a genuine test, thats why the report the test, if it was a fake test they will also reported it ... but only Indian media have doubts on this test ...

and talking about something hilarious .... well this is hilarious ....

Major aviation disaster averted: Indian Navy tests missiles even as airspace remains open to traffic

http://www.firstpost.com/india/major-aviation-disaster-averted-indian-navy-tests-missiles-even-as-airspace-remains-open-to-traffic-2493496.html

Where ISPR said it was a submerged platform ? give me the ISPR link ....

and US knows the test was genuine thats why they sent thre Boieng every time ....
and it was the first test of Babur III , but can you tell me what your media gonna tell your public when we gonna test few more SLCM in few months ?? thats the major Question ....

 

[Lonewarrior]

SUBTICS handles all weapons and command control function of the 90B.Thats why i said that 90B isnt made to fire SLCMs.

Okay...
Can you tell me about the Mirage-III fighters ? which country it belongs to ? France ... right ?
can anyone fire Nuclear capable ALCM from it without French tech or assistance ? NO ....
but we have done it , without french help.

at 0:40.

 

[LordJames]

I know what i am talking about,dont need to tell me what i can talk about what i cannot.

NOTAM has to be issued for all such aerial tests and also NAVAREA.Its hilarious that you are saying there is no need to file them.

The ISPR released said submerged platform.

The US knows and it hasnot said whether it was genuine or fake so stop trying to bring its spokesman's statement like you did.

And what is your ISPR source that it was fired from a submerged platform?

SUBTICS handles all weapons and command control function of the 90B.Thats why i said that 90B isnt made to fire SLCMs.

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/agosta/

The Agosta 90B submarine is fitted with four bow 533mm torpedo tubes and has the capacity to carry a mixed load of up to 16 torpedoes and missiles.

Its a Torpedo tube which means it can fire anything which will fit the tubes. SUBTICS will track it to destination which Babur III doesn't need.

 

[LordJames]

A Missile or a Harpoon can be easily embedded in a case and then launched via a normal Torpedo tube, nothing extraordinary. Here is what a Submarine launched Exocet looks like



My point is that Any Missile can be launched via the Agosta 90B submarines Tubes.

 

[carbon11]

Mashallah deadly

Imagine one if these being with fitted with a low yield nuclear warhead or even a warhead containing vx, sarin or mustard gas the damage it could do to any Indian advance into Pakistan

 

[PakLFC]

Indian's have been watching to much NDTV so think we are defenceless They can try attacking us then see if our tests have been real or fake, success or failures. This would be the simplest way to find out.

 

[Romali_rotti]

I believe this test was not a fake, China openly came out and said after the Agni 5 tests recently that they would help Pakistan and it may well be possible that China did help Pak with this Babur missile. Missile test seems genuine to me. However 1 criticism I have is the names of these missiles, they are all named after Islamic invaders whom have no ethnicity connection to majority of the Pakistanis today..

 

[petercat]

Mashallah deadly

Imagine one if these being with fitted with a low yield nuclear warhead or even a warhead containing vx, sarin or mustard gas the damage it could do to any Indian advance into Pakistan

What will be the Indian retaliation?Any idea?

 

[petercat]

ye le bhai tera NAVEREA .... NOTAM was also issued...

Babur - III

https://www.paknavy.gov.pk/securite/20161226SEC%20437.txt

the test took place in last december 27-28 (2016) .... the details of this test only issued few days ago .... HAPPY ?

also Janes, BBC, CNN every Int news source said it was a genuine test, thats why the report the test, if it was a fake test they will also reported it ... but only Indian media have doubts on this test ...

and talking about something hilarious .... well this is hilarious ....

Major aviation disaster averted: Indian Navy tests missiles even as airspace remains open to traffic

http://www.firstpost.com/india/major-aviation-disaster-averted-indian-navy-tests-missiles-even-as-airspace-remains-open-to-traffic-2493496.html

Where ISPR said it was a submerged platform ? give me the ISPR link ....

and US knows the test was genuine thats why they sent thre Boieng every time ....
and it was the first test of Babur III , but can you tell me what your media gonna tell your public when we gonna test few more SLCM in few months ?? thats the major Question ....

1st you claim no NOTAM or NAVAREA was issued.Then you bring a NOTAM and NAVAREA from weeks back and say this was done.All this is too fishy.

Everyone reported the test,even Indian media.Only next day did people came out with the "fact"that it may be fake.

Read the ISPR press release.Says submerged platform.Doesnt mention any Agosta90B.

You can test SLCM or whatever,wont scare a country that has ThermoNuclear weapons and ICBMs.Better try to scare someone else.

 

[Black Zero]

Video clip is Mashup of few seperate tests.

 

[Lonewarrior]

1st you claim no NOTAM or NAVAREA was issued.Then you bring a NOTAM and NAVAREA from weeks back and say this was done.All this is too fishy.

Everyone reported the test,even Indian media.Only next day did people came out with the "fact"that it may be fake.

Read the ISPR press release.Says submerged platform.Doesnt mention any Agosta90B.

You can test SLCM or whatever,wont scare a country that has ThermoNuclear weapons and ICBMs.Better try to scare someone else.

Yes it was me who claimed it, not ISPR.... the NAVAREA is a proof that test was took place on last DEC 27-28.... the details of the test only issued on 9th Jan... Thres no hard and fast rules for any country to issue the test details on the same day or ist ??....

the people who said that the test is fake is only Indians .... give me one neutral source stating its a fake test ..... we gve you IHS janes and CNN reports on the test .... if it was fake thn they also have to reported it as a fake test the day after India said its fake .... till this day i havent found any neutral source saying it was a fake test .... its only indian media whos crying ....

I asked you again, give me the link which says submerged platform ? i dont find any ISPR release saying it was a submerged platform test ...

if the test was from the submerged platform thn where are the tug boats with/around it in the video or pics ? you do know pontoon needs tug boats etc or you dont ....

as [MENTION=139512]LordJames[/MENTION] said, any Sub can launch missiles from torpedo, you just need some modification, so i dont understand why Agosta 90Bs cant ....

if indian media/experts says its fake, thn wait few more months becoz it was just a first test launch, the second test will be conducted again from Subs in few more months .... thn we will see what Indian media/expert gonna report about it ....

Lastly, its indian media and experts whos scaring and making noises ....
you may have thermonuclear weapons or Alien technology and what not but we arent sitting ducks .... dont underestimate our capabilities .... so better try to scare Nepal/Bhutan/Myanmar/Bangladesh with your Shuppa Pawa Image, it wont work on Pakistan .... Ok.