PCB rejects Danish Kaneria's appeal to remove his life ban and asks him to approach ECB [Post#119]

[Abdullah719]

Danish Kaneria speaking in his latest YouTube video:

"I want to express my thanks towards everyone. The love and support I have gotten for the past 2 days, I can't express in words how thankful I am"

"Those people who say I am doing this for cheap fame and for my YouTube channel, I want to remind them that I didn't say this, Shoaib Akhtar himself came on national television and said this"

"I will repeatedly say that the way I dealt with things, I never let my cricket be affected at domestic or international level. I always focused on my cricket"

"Those people who talk trash on their channels, saying that I made my YouTube channel. What do you people want? You cut my hands and feet, let alone cricket. I stopped working on channels and the channel I worked for, I didn't even get paid for that. So what do you want? That I should finish myself?"

"These people who are saying I played cricket for 10 years, I did that with my hard work and my achievements. I never made excuses about back injuries or took early retirement. I would bowl 30-40 overs a day and my finger would be bleeding, I gave blood to the ground. Everyone knows how much pain I was in but I never gave anyone the chance to replace me"

"I played in all 3 formats for Essex and performed at the highest level, but here I was given the label of being a Test cricketer only"

"These people who say I did fixing, first go and read about my case! See what it's about and see the charges I faced, then talk. I'll tell you what charges I faced. The first charge I got was for luring my fellow cricketers in Essex and the second one was for bringing the game into disrepute. I accepted these charges, I made a mistake, I am a human being and I accepted that"

"Here people sold their country, I didn't sell my country or take money at the expense of my country. Here, people sold the country, took the money, went to jail and were welcomed back into the team and honoured. People whose names came up in fixing are being hired by TV channels, by the board and into the team. I accepted my mistake, I didn't take any money. So see all these things before talking. I was always presented from the wrong angle. When the time comes to say the correct things, people always twist the truth and present it"

"What I am telling you here today is the real truth, I am talking from my heart. In my case, who is the guy who I was introduced to? Who introduced him to me? I stated it all in the past in interviews. The whole Pakistan team and officials used to know that guy. He used to come to Pakistan on official tours etc., PCB called him. I never knew him, I was introduced to him, on the basis that he is a Hindu and I am a Hindu. Why doesn't anyone talk about that?"

"I played my cricket with honesty and worked hard. Every match in domestic cricket, I played with honesty. There were never any fixing allegations against me, I never did any such thing. I always worked hard and won matches for Pakistan and you people have seen that and you support me. Everyone used to see my hard work. Commentators, so many people used to praise my hard work. I didn't used to sleep at night"

"I remember there were tours of Australia and India and we were in trouble and I had to perform, only I know what I went through and how I motivated myself to try and win matches. My hard work is there for everyone to see"

"People are talking about Anil Dalpat, my cousin. Go to him and ask him how he was dealt with while playing cricket. And here there are people sitting on their channels and talking rubbish, they don't know about anything. They don't have any experience, they haven't played much cricket and they don't have any analysis. They just talk rubbish and let everyone down. They don't know anything besides talking. They don't know about talking the truth. They are always scared of that. I am talking 100% facts and figures from my heart"

"I asked for help for so many years. I asked my country's people, I asked my board and every institution and nobody ever helped me. I was banned and I accepted that, here there are people who got banned, did everything and came back into the team and then retired from Test cricket to play leagues, and put the country on the side for leagues - I never did that"

"I am jobless since 10 years, I don't have any income. Who helped me? I have a family. Who will help me? Please stop going on channels and talking wrong things, speak the truth"

"The people in Pakistan and India, the love and support you have given me, I can't express my thanks for that. I am hopeful that you will keep loving and supporting me"

 

[Ronaldo7]

Should have not chosen cricket as your job then.

 

[sweep_shot]

Maybe he should learn computer programming or something useful. You can easily learn a new skill and offer freelance service.

 

[liam26]

Shouldnt have fixed matches and saved some money when he was playing for PCT.

Why is this guy having so much entitlement?

 

[sweep_shot]

If you have played international cricket for many years and you are still broke, it means fault is with you. Nobody can help you if you have bad money management.

 

[Markhor]

It's true Shoaib Akhtar instigated this story not Danish, but it takes a truly shameless individual to manipulate the very real problem of minority discrimination in Pakistan to basically ask for a handout from PCB and Pak Govt.

Why should you be given any assistance ? You lied about your role in fixing for years until you had nowhere else to turn.

I'm glad a life ban has been imposed on this guy because I don't his corrupt and self-entitled mindset to infect future generations of cricketers. How about you go get another job and stop this charade.

 

[Lonewarrior]

its getting uglier day by day , PCB should take stand ....

 

[Nadeem98]

It's true Shoaib Akhtar instigated this story not Danish, but it takes a truly shameless individual to manipulate the very real problem of minority discrimination in Pakistan to basically ask for a handout from PCB and Pak Govt.

Why should you be given any assistance ? You lied about your role in fixing for years until you had nowhere else to turn.

I'm glad a life ban has been imposed on this guy because I don't his corrupt and self-entitled mindset to infect future generations of cricketers. How about you go get another job and stop this charade.

Ata ur Reham was crushed by the system because he stood up against superstars on corruption. I don't see him engaging in blackmail or demanding a certain standard of living. He is actually a taxi driver in UK now and looking after his family. I dont think this guy is ashamed in the least of what damage he has done to the country. Rather than having some kind of embarrassment, he is rambling on about how the same country that he tarnished with his involvement in match fixing owes him a living. Learn from Ata ur Rehman, drive a taxi if you have to and provide for your family. Do not use your religion to make a quick buck.

 

[Abdullah]

Who is he talking about. Who is talking about him on their channels?
I thought It was just Shoaib n inzi

 

[IndianHero]

first of all who was that player who told shoaib 'y kaneria is eating with us ?'

 

[BreadPakoda]

His concerns must be heard in a sensitive manner and if there was discrimination an action must be taken. Although difficult to see that happening in Pakistan.

On the other hand, even players like Arshad Khan are driving taxi in Australia. So Danish should understand that he isn’t the only one suffering.

 

[Abdul]

He's got every right to be annoyed. It's disgusting how a beghairat loser like Amir was welcomed back into the team and all the Pakistanis cheered for him.

 

[Abdullah719]

His concerns must be heard in a sensitive manner and if there was discrimination an action must be taken. Although difficult to see that happening in Pakistan.

On the other hand, even players like Arshad Khan are driving taxi in Australia. So Danish should understand that he isn’t the only one suffering.

Not anymore. Arshad Khan is coaching one of the six provincial teams.

 

[Manunited18]

Bottom line is this match fixer used his fame, professionalism in a corrupt way in a country where these kind off things are not tolerated, I'm glad ecb threw the kitchen sink at him

 

[Manunited18]

He's got every right to be annoyed. It's disgusting how a beghairat loser like Amir was welcomed back into the team and all the Pakistanis cheered for him.

Are you for real, ecb have banned him for life

 

[Waleed93]

first of all who was that player who told shoaib 'y kaneria is eating with us ?'

No names will be revealed. Shoaib just shamelessly brought up a serious issue of discrimination to get some easy money, but he will not throw up any names, simply because there is a very rare possibility that the incident actually happened.

Even if Shoaib comes up with names, he will certainly not name someone bigger than him in terms of popularity. He is a coward.

 

[Hitman]

The reason why not a lot of people have sympathy with him is because he played the minority card when banned for match fixing, only to admit years later that he was indeed guilty.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Shouldn't have fixed then.

He lied all those years about the fixing stuff. Why should we believe him when he talks about discrimination, given that people like Miandad, Inzamam,Yousuf and Azhar Ali have outright denied it.

He is a cheat. He played 61 Test matches for Pakistan. He could have had opportunities in leagues and coaching after his career. But he threw it all away and only has himself to blame.

 

[Savak]

Lol the dude screwed himself over by admitting his guilt in the end. Should have kept his mouth shut and carried on with the TV gigs

 

[MenInG]

Shouldn't have fixed then.

He lied all those years about the fixing stuff. Why should we believe him when he talks about discrimination, given that people like Miandad, Inzamam,Yousuf and Azhar Ali have outright denied it.

He is a cheat. He played 61 Test matches for Pakistan. He could have had opportunities in leagues and coaching after his career. But he threw it all away and only has himself to blame.

I am also concerned as we all were about the 2010 trio that not more games had been fixed etc.

 

[BaankeJi]

Shouldn't have fixed then.

He lied all those years about the fixing stuff. Why should we believe him when he talks about discrimination, given that people like Miandad, Inzamam,Yousuf and Azhar Ali have outright denied it.

He is a cheat. He played 61 Test matches for Pakistan. He could have had opportunities in leagues and coaching after his career. But he threw it all away and only has himself to blame.

He thinks he did not fix any games and was wrongly implicated.

 

[Ronaldo7]

He thinks he did not fix any games and was wrongly implicated.

He admitted it SMH

 

[Slog]

He thinks he did not fix any games and was wrongly implicated.

The case was more him influencing Westfield and making introduction rather than fixing from what I understand. So charge was bringing game to disrepute.

Besides he says and it is true that fixers who sold the country for cash were brought back as heroes and he did not even fix a Pakistan match and he is a pariah.

Where I differ with him is that he is claiming that the lack of PCB support was due to religion whereas imo it was due to his lack of utility going forward and the fact that he got life band from ecb.

 

[Bewal Express]

Danish, like all the other crooks knew it was wrong and couldn't help themselves. I still feel we never got to the bottom of how many matches the trio and Danish fixed.
I was a fan of Danish and still believe that he is one of the most talented bowlers we have ever had, a bowler that had the world at his feet but his lack of bowling intelligence, cost him dearly.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Not anymore. Arshad Khan is coaching one of the six provincial teams.

Oh great. Good for him.

 

[Waleed93]

The reason why not a lot of people have sympathy with him is because he played the minority card when banned for match fixing, only to admit years later that he was indeed guilty.

Exactly.

He never complained about any kind of discrimination during his career, he played with the same players for over a decade without any problem related to his religion.

It seems like he suddenly remembered he is Hindu after getting banned for match fixing.

 

[Zaz]

He wasnt unfairly treated It was because he was 30 plus and like other posters have said he had no utility going forward

Amir is the only one from the 2010 trio that received any good on the intnl stage because of his age and the fact he had so much to offer going forward Butt no matter what he does in domestics will never play for the national team again

 

[JibranAnsari]

Only Allah knows best but inzamam who is accused of being too strict religiously in the dressing room played kaneria in 29 out of 31 test matches he captained . Kaneria played county and not only fixed but also tried to involve other players with him. Instead of being ashamed of what he has done he is trying to gain sympathy by playing minority card.

 

[Saj]

Danish only has himself to blame.

He must have known the consequences of his actions.

He ruined his own career and the career of Westfield too.

Who knows how long he had been up to no good, perhaps in Pakistan colours too.

 

[sindhiboy]

Maybe he should learn computer programming or something useful. You can easily learn a new skill and offer freelance service.

If it was that easy, then millions would not be in poverty

 

[sweep_shot]

If it was that easy, then millions would not be in poverty

He is not like other regular people. He is an ex-cricketer. I am sure he could've used his fame to set up a business or something.

Like I said, any cricketer who has played international cricket for a long time should never be broke. Also, there are so many resources nowadays.

 

[Usman Chadda]

His concerns must be heard in a sensitive manner and if there was discrimination an action must be taken. Although difficult to see that happening in Pakistan.

On the other hand, even players like Arshad Khan are driving taxi in Australia. So Danish should understand that he isn’t the only one suffering.

Danish Kaneria should be the last person complaining about discrimination. He was dropped from the team even before he was caught up in the fixing scandal. His own performances were the reason for his ouster, not his religion. He was one of the first names on the team sheet, sometimes undeservedly so, for the major of his career.

He is clearly using this opportunity to be in the news and gain some traction. There are better ways of getting a job than selling your country out. Disgusting individual.

 

[Manunited18]

Danish Kaneria should be the last person complaining about discrimination. He was dropped from the team even before he was caught up in the fixing scandal. His own performances were the reason for his ouster, not his religion. He was one of the first names on the team sheet, sometimes undeservedly so, for the major of his career.

He is clearly using this opportunity to be in the news and gain some traction. There are better ways of getting a job than selling your country out. Disgusting individual.

Excellent point, he clearly using this as a platform to weasel his way out, as for shoaib akhter, the less said the better

 

[Captain caveman]

The reason why not a lot of people have sympathy with him is because he played the minority card when banned for match fixing, only to admit years later that he was indeed guilty.

I would say it was because he was not a star player. No disrespect to danish, i think he is the 4th highest wicket taker in tests for Pakistan but Pakistanis love fast bowlers and guys who hit sixes.
If he was one of these, he would have been welcomed back into the fold like amir and soon to be shajeel khan.
His age also went against him.

 

[MenInG]

The Pakistan Cricket Board on Friday sought to distance itself from Shoaib Akhtar’s assertion that his former teammate Danish Kaneria faced discrimination at the hands of fellow players for being a Hindu, saying that the PCB cannot be answerable for the allegation. Akhtar sparked a furore when he said that Kaneria was humiliated by some players because he was a Hindu, was not given due credit and some even refused to eat food with him because of his faith.

Kaneria asserted that Akhtar’s statement was true and he would soon reveal names of the players who mistreated him because of his religion. The former spinner is serving a life ban for spot-fixing since 2012.

“Look both Akhtar and Kaneria are retired players they are not contracted to us so they can do or say what they want. It is their opinion. And they are making allegations about behaviour of some players not about the entire Pakistan cricket set-up or board,” a Board spokesperson said.

“Inzamam-ul-Haq, Rashid Latif, Younis Khan, Muhammad Yousuf, all these guys captained Pakistan when Kaneria was playing. They should respond to what Akhtar and Kaneria are saying. Why should the board get involved?” he questioned.

Akhtar and Kaneria got the support of former Test players Iqbal Qasim and Mohsin Khan.

“If some players have mistreated Kaneria only because of his religion than they must be exposed,” Qasim said.

“A player should only be judged on his cricketing ability and commitments to the team not his religion, colour or creed,” added former Test opener Mohsin Khan.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...ation-issue/story-mOvkqXITVeVeAoD4w12j0H.html

 

[barah_admi]

Why all the explosion of Kaneria news? There are far more Muslim cricketers in Pakistan who are broke rather than Kaneria...who probably would have had his money if he had managed it well and then not relegated himself from FC cricket with his corruption in the county game.

 

[Abdullah719]

From his latest video:

"This began with Shoaib Akhtar's statement and I gave my response"

"Questions were raised that you played for Pakistan for 10 years without discrimination so I cleared all that, that I ignored that and kept working hard and didn't let myself be replaced and my seniors and captain supported me"

"Then the question that my matter is with ECB and not PCB, I cleared that, that I didn't blame PCB"

"Things are coming in the media and people are saying you are blaming PCB and asking for support. Look, I ignored the discrimination that happened with me in the past and focused on my cricket"

"Regarding the allegations on me and the life ban, I sent a request to ICC and they replied, saying that you are a Pakistani cricketer and you have a Pakistan cricket board so it's your board's responsibility to come on your behalf and fight your case, because it's about the domestic system in England. No player can go to ICC personally and plead his case"

"I made many requests and got no answer. Since the ban and when I accepted it, all the PCB Chairmen and Pakistani Prime Ministers, I appealed to them all and knocked on the doors but no one paid any attention"

"Recently, I requested PM Imran Khan. I always feel like I have been discriminated against. When I spoke on this before, it was said I was playing the religion card. But looking at the treatment I have endured, what should I think? If this isn't discrimination, what is it?"

"I am requesting once again and I am being ignored and people say I am playing the religion card. I am not doing that, I am only asking for my right as a Pakistani citizen and a national player for Pakistan. At least honour my performances for the country. If not, is this discrimination or not? I am jobless, I have a family and kids, I want to educate them well and I want to give something back to cricket with my experience"

"I appeal to PCB, PM Imran Khan who is the Patron of the PCB, I am requesting him because he is at a position where he can help me. If he can't help me then this is discrimination"

 

[HappyWarsFan]

Stop moaning Kaneria. He is being pathetic.

 

[Manunited18]

From his latest video:

"This began with Shoaib Akhtar's statement and I gave my response"

"Questions were raised that you played for Pakistan for 10 years without discrimination so I cleared all that, that I ignored that and kept working hard and didn't let myself be replaced and my seniors and captain supported me"

"Then the question that my matter is with ECB and not PCB, I cleared that, that I didn't blame PCB"

"Things are coming in the media and people are saying you are blaming PCB and asking for support. Look, I ignored the discrimination that happened with me in the past and focused on my cricket"

"Regarding the allegations on me and the life ban, I sent a request to ICC and they replied, saying that you are a Pakistani cricketer and you have a Pakistan cricket board so it's your board's responsibility to come on your behalf and fight your case, because it's about the domestic system in England. No player can go to ICC personally and plead his case"

"I made many requests and got no answer. Since the ban and when I accepted it, all the PCB Chairmen and Pakistani Prime Ministers, I appealed to them all and knocked on the doors but no one paid any attention"

"Recently, I requested PM Imran Khan. I always feel like I have been discriminated against. When I spoke on this before, it was said I was playing the religion card. But looking at the treatment I have endured, what should I think? If this isn't discrimination, what is it?"

"I am requesting once again and I am being ignored and people say I am playing the religion card. I am not doing that, I am only asking for my right as a Pakistani citizen and a national player for Pakistan. At least honour my performances for the country. If not, is this discrimination or not? I am jobless, I have a family and kids, I want to educate them well and I want to give something back to cricket with my experience"

"I appeal to PCB, PM Imran Khan who is the Patron of the PCB, I am requesting him because he is at a position where he can help me. If he can't help me then this is discrimination"

Tough !, glad ecb banned him for life

 

[praveen]

From his latest video:



"This began with Shoaib Akhtar's statement and I gave my response"

"Questions were raised that you played for Pakistan for 10 years without discrimination so I cleared all that, that I ignored that and kept working hard and didn't let myself be replaced and my seniors and captain supported me"

"Then the question that my matter is with ECB and not PCB, I cleared that, that I didn't blame PCB"

"Things are coming in the media and people are saying you are blaming PCB and asking for support. Look, I ignored the discrimination that happened with me in the past and focused on my cricket"

"Regarding the allegations on me and the life ban, I sent a request to ICC and they replied, saying that you are a Pakistani cricketer and you have a Pakistan cricket board so it's your board's responsibility to come on your behalf and fight your case, because it's about the domestic system in England. No player can go to ICC personally and plead his case"

"I made many requests and got no answer. Since the ban and when I accepted it, all the PCB Chairmen and Pakistani Prime Ministers, I appealed to them all and knocked on the doors but no one paid any attention"

"Recently, I requested PM Imran Khan. I always feel like I have been discriminated against. When I spoke on this before, it was said I was playing the religion card. But looking at the treatment I have endured, what should I think? If this isn't discrimination, what is it?"

"I am requesting once again and I am being ignored and people say I am playing the religion card. I am not doing that, I am only asking for my right as a Pakistani citizen and a national player for Pakistan. At least honour my performances for the country. If not, is this discrimination or not? I am jobless, I have a family and kids, I want to educate them well and I want to give something back to cricket with my experience"

"I appeal to PCB, PM Imran Khan who is the Patron of the PCB, I am requesting him because he is at a position where he can help me. If he can't help me then this is discrimination"

What help does he want exactly ?

 

[Monsee]

His concerns must be heard in a sensitive manner and if there was discrimination an action must be taken. Although difficult to see that happening in Pakistan.

On the other hand, even players like Arshad Khan are driving taxi in Australia. So Danish should understand that he isn’t the only one suffering.

Stuff that comment where you feel like...we all are witnessing how India is helping Kashmir, Muslims, other minorities etc. World Class support all around lol

 

[Lonewarrior]

i think its enough now, he is asking for help. send him to India, i am sure the BCCI will help him. after all so many indians are asking him to come india on his youtube channel...

 

[Slog]

Stop moaning Kaneria. He is being pathetic.

He has a point. Why were trio given support when they committed far greater crimes.

It’s just that i don’t think reason is religious but rather of utility. But the point is he was discriminated against .

 

[Pakistanian]

He has a point. Why were trio given support when they committed far greater crimes.

It’s just that i don’t think reason is religious but rather of utility. But the point is he was discriminated against .

How have they committed "far greater crimes"? The trio were convicted of spot-fixing whereas Kaneria admitted to match-fixing which is far greater offense as match-fixing affects the outcome of a game whereas spot-fixing only involves a few select deliveries.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018...eria-admits-match-fixing-181017113624950.html

I don't know anybody in world cricket that has returned from a match-fixing conviction.

 

[Pakistanian]

i think its enough now, he is asking for help. send him to India, i am sure the BCCI will help him. after all so many indians are asking him to come india on his youtube channel...

That's a terrible idea, they will use him as a propaganda tool against Pakistan.

 

[Pakistanian]

[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] Kaneria has never even returned to England to do jail time, at least the trio were punished for their offenses and you can only be rehabilitated once you've done your time.

 

[mgtow]

If Danish Kaneria is trying to present treason as discrimination as the result of betraying the trust of Pakistan cricket and England cricket, then ignore him.

Imran khan owes him nothing nor does Pakistan. If he feels discriminated for betraying Pakistan, then he is always welcome to go to India where he can be himself and get away with it just as Modi has in regards to genocide case.

 

[Slog]

How have they committed "far greater crimes"? The trio were convicted of spot-fixing whereas Kaneria admitted to match-fixing which is far greater offense as match-fixing affects the outcome of a game whereas spot-fixing only involves a few select deliveries.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018...eria-admits-match-fixing-181017113624950.html

I don't know anybody in world cricket that has returned from a match-fixing conviction.

No criminal charges were brought against Kaneria so jail time was not an issue. Under no condition was Kaneria going to be jailed since he did not indulge in fixing personally and rather encouraged or pressured another person.

Match fixing is only there for headline. Read it!

It was spotfixing only. And the charge he was found guilty of was encouraging Westfield to spot fix and bringing the game to disrepute rather than personally Spotfixing.

 

[HitWicket]

I would say it was because he was not a star player. No disrespect to danish, i think he is the 4th highest wicket taker in tests for Pakistan but Pakistanis love fast bowlers and guys who hit sixes.
If he was one of these, he would have been welcomed back into the fold like amir and soon to be shajeel khan.
His age also went against him.

He couldn't be welcomed back, the ECB banned him for life and PCB had to uphold that.

 

[Usman Chadda]

He has a point. Why were trio given support when they committed far greater crimes.

It’s just that i don’t think reason is religious but rather of utility. But the point is he was discriminated against .

He was banned by the ECB and ICC. That life ban has to be upheld by every cricket board, including PCB.

PCB did not do much for the trio, as it was the ICC that cleared them to play in the first place.

This is one unfortunate situation where PCB cannot help Kaneria. They will risk losing whatever little credibility they have, and will probably not be able to do anything in the end anyway.

 

[Waleed93]

He wants money, and he might get some through his YouTube channel, as many people will watch his emotional drama episodes to get some entertainment. Of course, some of our Indian friends will watch his videos to show some sympathy as he will play the religion card to downgrade Pakistan.

I would love to see him on Shoaib's channel one day. This will be funny.

Until then, let him cry.

 

[Green Patriot]

I absolutely loathe this sense of entitlement.
PM Imran Khan has more matters of pressing urgency to attend to than helping ex cricketers who have been banned by the ICC and ECB for slinging mud on their own reputation, their country's and the game itself.

Besides Kaneria jumped from around 18k to 100k subscribers on Youtube in 2 days. He can earn plenty by staging some more melodrama there.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Stuff that comment where you feel like...we all are witnessing how India is helping Kashmir, Muslims, other minorities etc. World Class support all around lol

Uske liye aap apni tashreef ka katora haazir kijiye..

Any way, just because India is going to the dogs doesn't mean Pakistan doesn't have a history of discrimination against minorities. Stop being insecure.

 

[Abid Z]

No criminal charges were brought against Kaneria so jail time was not an issue. Under no condition was Kaneria going to be jailed since he did not indulge in fixing personally and rather encouraged or pressured another person.

Match fixing is only there for headline. Read it!

It was spotfixing only. And the charge he was found guilty of was encouraging Westfield to spot fix and bringing the game to disrepute rather than personally Spotfixing.

If it was “bringing the game into disrepute” by encouraging another to spot fix then a life ban is a little harsh don’t you think? After all no money exchanged hands and no criminality was involved. I do think a player losing all benefits of even entering a ground on say a coaching assignment is quite harsh.

(Especially when certain individuals mentioned in qayuum report are actually involved in pcb set up)

 

[moghul]

Modi might help you .

 

[HitWicket]

If it was “bringing the game into disrepute” by encouraging another to spot fix then a life ban is a little harsh don’t you think? After all no money exchanged hands and no criminality was involved. I do think a player losing all benefits of even entering a ground on say a coaching assignment is quite harsh.

(Especially when certain individuals mentioned in qayuum report are actually involved in pcb set up)

He was in direct contact and regularly meeting with a fixer that the ECB had specifically warned about. He supplied the fixer with free tickets to televised games. He was in regular contact with the fixer during and around televised games. He approached numerous players of his team to try and corrupt them including the captain. He got what he deserved and was then stupid enough to lose all his remaining money by challenging the ECBs verdict.

 

[andy0204]

Good news for Indian media to propagate.

 

[MenInG]

So now Kaneria would like Imran to forgive his trespasses - think he is mistaking Imran for someone else!

 

[Abid Z]

He was in direct contact and regularly meeting with a fixer that the ECB had specifically warned about. He supplied the fixer with free tickets to televised games. He was in regular contact with the fixer during and around televised games. He approached numerous players of his team to try and corrupt them including the captain. He got what he deserved and was then stupid enough to lose all his remaining money by challenging the ECBs verdict.

Thank you. I’m just curious as my memory is a little hazy on the facts of this. But isn’t all this due to the testimony of Westfield? And this fixer Anu bhatt I guess wasn’t he already mingling with people in the pcb? Which captain are you referring to? Captain of Essex or Pakistan ?

 

[HitWicket]

Thank you. I’m just curious as my memory is a little hazy on the facts of this. But isn’t all this due to the testimony of Westfield? And this fixer Anu bhatt I guess wasn’t he already mingling with people in the pcb? Which captain are you referring to? Captain of Essex or Pakistan ?

No idea about Anu Bhatts links to the PCB. There was also testimony from Mark Pettini (Essex captain), James Foster, David Masters, Chris Wright and Varun Chopra as well as access to Kanerias phone and text records that showed a massive amount of contact with Anu Bhatt, particularly just before televised games.

 

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Look as his youtube channel, now got 160K subscribers. Full of comments of sympathy by people thinking he's been discriminated based on religion.

He was life banned by the ECB. The ban is then applied globally by the ICC. Naved Arif the exact same who fixed in county, life banned. Lou Vincent the same, life banned both by ECB and in NZ. Lou vincent isn't allowed to play, coach or participate in any way in cricket.

For Kaneria to get off, he has to ask the PCB to go against the ECB and campaign on his behalf. Which is bordering ridiculous, why would PCB start a dispute with the ECB over a player who wasn't even in current/future international plans. Even if this player was Amir in this case, PCB might not have done it.

It is unfortunate for Kaneria that he decided to fix/encourage others to fix in the employ of ECB. It allowed the ECB to decide the punishment and they of course were angry that not only were these cricketers fixing, but instilling a fixing culture in their domestic structure recruiting others to fix. They weren't going to be lenient, and what Kaneria did was worse in their eyes than fixing himself, he was actively spreading fixing. Though I do find it hard to believe he was willing to spread/recruit others to fix which he admitted but not fix himself personally. If he did the first, he likely did the other.

ECB did go on Kaneria (as they did Lou Vincent, Arif) harder as they people who come to their country and spread fixing. Westfield they wanted to whistle blow, thus were a bit more lenient. Westfield went to prison though, Kaneria did not. Westfield's cricketing career was all but done anyway as a result, works as a scaffolder now anyway.

Kaneria is unlucky perhaps he didn't chose to fix under the most lenient board/country on fixing Pakistan. Pakistan are fine with cricketers serving the minimum for fixing, hence the trio, and even Sharjeel etc. Had Kaneria fixed/done what he did in Pakistani domestic, he only would have received a few years, not life. Unfortunately for him it wasn't the PCB's decision it was ECBs.

tldr, This matter is between him and the ECB and possibly the ICC. PCB have no power or responsibility for his ban in this.

 

[Bewal Express]

The guy is seriously deluded. He needs to earn a crust, but why bring IK into, if anything launch legal action against the ECB

 

[silentkiller187]

He pressured westfield to participate and got him put in jail for four months and then continued to lie to cover his own back, people like this do not deserve to be pardoned. If he admitted guilt from the start i believ Westfield's sentence would have been more lenient.

 

[MenInG]

In case people have forgotten:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/18491332

Danish Kaneria has been banned for life from playing in England and Wales after being found guilty of corruption.

The Pakistan leg-spinner, 31, encouraged former Essex team-mate Mervyn Westfield to spot-fix.

Westfield was jailed for four months in February for deliberately bowling badly in a CB40 game against Durham in 2009.

The International Cricket Council (ICC) recommended that the ban imposed by the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) should be implemented worldwide.

Pace bowler Westfield, 24, who has since been released from prison, pleaded guilty to the charge of accepting money to underperform.

He has been banned for five years but can play club cricket in the final two years of the suspension.

"Since Mervyn Westifeld's conviction there has been one lingering and pressing question: how much of English cricket is corrupt?

"Privately many in the game believe that corruption in England has not been rife. But the fear was that even a handful of experienced players might be able to force youngsters into becoming corrupt. This is exactly the ''cajoling and pressurising'' the panel refer to with Kaneria and Westfield.

"If these bans encourage more whistle-blowing then that will be a huge bonus for English cricket. Without players informing on each other there is no effective way county cricket can be policed."

Kaneria's ban comes into effect immediately, while Westfield's suspension is backdated to 17 February, when he was sentenced. Neither has played county cricket since 2010.

"I will ask the board to remind all members to put in place appropriate mechanisms to ensure that the sanctions imposed on both players in this case are appropriately recognised and respected outside of the ECB's domestic jurisdiction," said ICC chief executive Haroon Lorgat.

During Westfield's trial, Judge Anthony Morris said the scam had been orchestrated by Kaneria, who spent six seasons at Essex from 2004.

But Kaneria, who played 61 Tests and 18 one-day internationals between 2000 and 2010, was never charged by the police on the grounds of insufficient evidence.

Both players were charged by the ECB in April for "alleged breaches of the ECB's anti-corruption directives".

The ECB disciplinary panel concluded that Kaneria:

• acted as a recruiter of spot-fixers

• approached a number of what he saw as potential targets at Essex

• cajoled and pressurised Westfield into becoming involved, knowing he was young and vulnerable

• was present when Westfield received his payment for underperforming.

In handing down the punishment, the panel said: "Kaneria has made no admission, has shown no remorse and sought to cast blame on other plainly innocent persons.

"We regard him as a grave danger to the game of cricket and we must take every appropriate step to protect our game from his corrupt activities.

Spoiler

The case against Kaneria

The ECB said the key evidence against Kaneria came from Westfield, and is summarised below:

Kaneria told Westfield: "You are young and it's hard to make money. I have a way that you can make money quicker."
Kaneria introduced him to two men and they went to Dukes nightclub in Chelmsford where one man "flashed his money around"
At the Essex training ground a direct approach was made by one of the men to Westfield
When the squad for the match against Durham was known, Kaneria and the men pressured Westfield to go through with the plan and met him in a hotel the night before the match
When Essex returned from Durham one of the men gave Westfield a package that contained £6,000
"Self evidently, corruption, specifically spot-fixing, in cricket or any other sport for that matter, is a cancer that eats at the health and very existence of the game.

"For the general public, supporting the game and their team within it, there is no merit or motivation to expend time, money or effort to watch a match whose integrity may be in doubt. The consequences of the public's disengagement from cricket would be catastrophic."

ECB chairman Giles Clarke told BBC Radio 5 live: "If somebody is found guilty of this sort of thing in a match in England that is a very sad day for cricket.

"All of us involved in this game, be it here or in other parts of the word, need to have a long, hard look at the judgment and make sure we don't have this kind of thing happening again.

"In anything where this type of things goes on, where young men are abused and are foolish, we need to do something to stop it. I want to get something out to those who are abusing them as well - we'll get you too."

However Kaneria has maintained his innocence and said he will appeal against the sentence. He told Sky Sports: "I'm very upset about this decision. They don't have any proof against me.

"I'm an honest man. I've been playing cricket with passion and love. I have done nothing wrong."

Kaneria's ban comes the day after Pakistan captain and former team-mate having served seven months of a 30-month sentence for spot-fixing.

Butt was jailed with seamers Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir for conspiring to bowl deliberate no-balls against England in the 2010 Lord's Test.

All three were also given five-year playing bans, which they are appealing against.

BBC cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew said: "As we've seen in the past, it is very difficult to convict people for match-fixing and spot-betting, but cricket is taking a lead in trying to stamp out corruption from the sport.

"It is not difficult to induce players to take payments; it is not difficult to underperform. Cricket is very vulnerable to this, so it is very important we stamp this out."

 

[HitWicket]

The guy is seriously deluded. He needs to earn a crust, but why bring IK into, if anything launch legal action against the ECB

He already tried that and bankrupt himself doing so.

 

[Bewal Express]

He already tried that and bankrupt himself doing so.

The guy needs to let go. The fixing and the discrimination are 2 different issues, and for him to conflate the 2 isn't help him.

 

[Monsee]

Uske liye aap apni tashreef ka katora haazir kijiye..

Any way, just because India is going to the dogs doesn't mean Pakistan doesn't have a history of discrimination against minorities. Stop being insecure.

I am not in to that sort of stuff, you can do the tajarbah on yourslef since you seem to have thae requisite knowledge and being Indian, it will come as second nature as well!

No one was saying Pakistan does not have bad history but on the scale of what India is doing to their own folks, that will be unheard of even in human history!

World's biggest Democracy lol

 

[last_knight]

What a clown he is turning out to be.

PCB/PM/President helping him under pressure of Minority Card will open up a whole set of blackmailing by remote and underprivileged areas players, everyone exploiting authorities under the name of religious card or ethnic card or regional card bla bla bla. This episode isn't anymore a joke.

 

[last_knight]

In case people have forgotten:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/18491332

Danish Kaneria has been banned for life from playing in England and Wales after being found guilty of corruption.

The Pakistan leg-spinner, 31, encouraged former Essex team-mate Mervyn Westfield to spot-fix.

Westfield was jailed for four months in February for deliberately bowling badly in a CB40 game against Durham in 2009.

The International Cricket Council (ICC) recommended that the ban imposed by the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) should be implemented worldwide.

Pace bowler Westfield, 24, who has since been released from prison, pleaded guilty to the charge of accepting money to underperform.

He has been banned for five years but can play club cricket in the final two years of the suspension.

"Since Mervyn Westifeld's conviction there has been one lingering and pressing question: how much of English cricket is corrupt?

"Privately many in the game believe that corruption in England has not been rife. But the fear was that even a handful of experienced players might be able to force youngsters into becoming corrupt. This is exactly the ''cajoling and pressurising'' the panel refer to with Kaneria and Westfield.

"If these bans encourage more whistle-blowing then that will be a huge bonus for English cricket. Without players informing on each other there is no effective way county cricket can be policed."

Kaneria's ban comes into effect immediately, while Westfield's suspension is backdated to 17 February, when he was sentenced. Neither has played county cricket since 2010.

"I will ask the board to remind all members to put in place appropriate mechanisms to ensure that the sanctions imposed on both players in this case are appropriately recognised and respected outside of the ECB's domestic jurisdiction," said ICC chief executive Haroon Lorgat.

During Westfield's trial, Judge Anthony Morris said the scam had been orchestrated by Kaneria, who spent six seasons at Essex from 2004.

But Kaneria, who played 61 Tests and 18 one-day internationals between 2000 and 2010, was never charged by the police on the grounds of insufficient evidence.

Both players were charged by the ECB in April for "alleged breaches of the ECB's anti-corruption directives".

The ECB disciplinary panel concluded that Kaneria:

• acted as a recruiter of spot-fixers

• approached a number of what he saw as potential targets at Essex

• cajoled and pressurised Westfield into becoming involved, knowing he was young and vulnerable

• was present when Westfield received his payment for underperforming.

In handing down the punishment, the panel said: "Kaneria has made no admission, has shown no remorse and sought to cast blame on other plainly innocent persons.

"We regard him as a grave danger to the game of cricket and we must take every appropriate step to protect our game from his corrupt activities.

Spoiler

The case against Kaneria

The ECB said the key evidence against Kaneria came from Westfield, and is summarised below:

Kaneria told Westfield: "You are young and it's hard to make money. I have a way that you can make money quicker."
Kaneria introduced him to two men and they went to Dukes nightclub in Chelmsford where one man "flashed his money around"
At the Essex training ground a direct approach was made by one of the men to Westfield
When the squad for the match against Durham was known, Kaneria and the men pressured Westfield to go through with the plan and met him in a hotel the night before the match
When Essex returned from Durham one of the men gave Westfield a package that contained £6,000
"Self evidently, corruption, specifically spot-fixing, in cricket or any other sport for that matter, is a cancer that eats at the health and very existence of the game.

"For the general public, supporting the game and their team within it, there is no merit or motivation to expend time, money or effort to watch a match whose integrity may be in doubt. The consequences of the public's disengagement from cricket would be catastrophic."

ECB chairman Giles Clarke told BBC Radio 5 live: "If somebody is found guilty of this sort of thing in a match in England that is a very sad day for cricket.

"All of us involved in this game, be it here or in other parts of the word, need to have a long, hard look at the judgment and make sure we don't have this kind of thing happening again.

"In anything where this type of things goes on, where young men are abused and are foolish, we need to do something to stop it. I want to get something out to those who are abusing them as well - we'll get you too."

However Kaneria has maintained his innocence and said he will appeal against the sentence. He told Sky Sports: "I'm very upset about this decision. They don't have any proof against me.

"I'm an honest man. I've been playing cricket with passion and love. I have done nothing wrong."

Kaneria's ban comes the day after Pakistan captain and former team-mate having served seven months of a 30-month sentence for spot-fixing.

Butt was jailed with seamers Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir for conspiring to bowl deliberate no-balls against England in the 2010 Lord's Test.

All three were also given five-year playing bans, which they are appealing against.

BBC cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew said: "As we've seen in the past, it is very difficult to convict people for match-fixing and spot-betting, but cricket is taking a lead in trying to stamp out corruption from the sport.

"It is not difficult to induce players to take payments; it is not difficult to underperform. Cricket is very vulnerable to this, so it is very important we stamp this out."

I assume, wrt ECB and England, he requested queen to help him. As it seems his go to method, exemplified by his request to PM of Pakistan.

 

[Saj]

Why isn't Danish speaking about the ECB or appealing to them or Boris Johnson?

After all they are the ones who banned him.

 

[sshakir411]

Someone please tell this guy the PM’s duty is to all citizens of Pakistan and not just one. Danish is really milking this whole episode and the fake support he’s getting from his fellow Hindus across the border

 

[Abdullah719]

Looks like his plan is one video daily.... Here is the latest:

"Some people on TV channels and on YouTube channels said a few things which I want to clear up. This is my forum and I can openly share my thoughts here in front of everyone. When I read your messages, many people abused me. People said to move on and to stop dwelling on past matters and to stop discussing things. I have always moved on in life"

"Tanvir Ahmed has always been a good friend and we have played cricket together. He often speaks about Rajesh Ramesh but he doesn't say everything. I have seen him always speak openly but on this topic, he is scared about something. Who he is scared of, I don't know. He isn't saying the whole thing. I met Tanvir Ahmed at a wedding with my wife. There, he said that Rajesh Ramesh said that there were people who didn't like to eat and drink with Danish. He said that I don't have such a mentality but some people didn't like doing these things with Danish. So have some guts and say the whole thing, not half to mislead people. In front you say something else and behind people's backs you say something else. Shoaib bhai always says everything bluntly in front of you and behind you too"

"One other guy who was on some channel which got shut down and has now gone to another channel and sits in a tie suit, what does he talk about? He says nonsensical rubbish, what is his knowledge to sit on TV and talk? I talk with logic and straight to people's faces. He says he knows my father etc., of course he knows, he's from the media and this information is on Wikipedia. I sat with him on TV and asked him so many times on shows, he made promises when I asked for payment for being on the show. Did he ever ask me if I got money for that show? Instead he talks about my YouTube views and subscribers"

"People are getting hurt seeing I have a YouTube channels and viewership. If people like hearing me and want to see me, why is it hurting you people? I don't ever say anything to you or speak to you, you give me chances to speak. Have some humanity"

"I always talk about moving on in life. Even when discrimination happened, I ignored it. From our childhood and now to our kids, we have learnt and taught that whenever it comes to religion, you have to move on, don't worry and focus on your work. I don't want to drag out such things. I am talking with logic and based on reality, I don't have any need to drag anything out"

"People say that Danish and Shoaib didn't take names. If I take names then Pakistan's image will be affected. Don't remind me that Pakistan gave me respect, I always say that anyway. I am a proud Pakistani and proud Hindu and don't rile people up. I have always taken care of Pakistan's image and will always continue to do that"

 

[Gullycricket]

Looks like his plan is one video daily.... Here is the latest:

"Some people on TV channels and on YouTube channels said a few things which I want to clear up. This is my forum and I can openly share my thoughts here in front of everyone. When I read your messages, many people abused me. People said to move on and to stop dwelling on past matters and to stop discussing things. I have always moved on in life"

"Tanvir Ahmed has always been a good friend and we have played cricket together. He often speaks about Rajesh Ramesh but he doesn't say everything. I have seen him always speak openly but on this topic, he is scared about something. Who he is scared of, I don't know. He isn't saying the whole thing. I met Tanvir Ahmed at a wedding with my wife. There, he said that Rajesh Ramesh said that there were people who didn't like to eat and drink with Danish. He said that I don't have such a mentality but some people didn't like doing these things with Danish. So have some guts and say the whole thing, not half to mislead people. In front you say something else and behind people's backs you say something else. Shoaib bhai always says everything bluntly in front of you and behind you too"

"One other guy who was on some channel which got shut down and has now gone to another channel and sits in a tie suit, what does he talk about? He says nonsensical rubbish, what is his knowledge to sit on TV and talk? I talk with logic and straight to people's faces. He says he knows my father etc., of course he knows, he's from the media and this information is on Wikipedia. I sat with him on TV and asked him so many times on shows, he made promises when I asked for payment for being on the show. Did he ever ask me if I got money for that show? Instead he talks about my YouTube views and subscribers"

"People are getting hurt seeing I have a YouTube channels and viewership. If people like hearing me and want to see me, why is it hurting you people? I don't ever say anything to you or speak to you, you give me chances to speak. Have some humanity"

"I always talk about moving on in life. Even when discrimination happened, I ignored it. From our childhood and now to our kids, we have learnt and taught that whenever it comes to religion, you have to move on, don't worry and focus on your work. I don't want to drag out such things. I am talking with logic and based on reality, I don't have any need to drag anything out"

"People say that Danish and Shoaib didn't take names. If I take names then Pakistan's image will be affected. Don't remind me that Pakistan gave me respect, I always say that anyway. I am a proud Pakistani and proud Hindu and don't rile people up. I have always taken care of Pakistan's image and will always continue to do that"

You and Shoiab already affected the image.Look how bigots across the border are using the same to push their narrative

 

[Titan24]

So a credible name like Tanvir Ahmed if Shoaib Akhtar and Danish Kaneria themselves werent enough definitely adds weight to the whole story.

 

[PakLFC]

Well if he was so much of a victim then spill all the beans. No point in crying discrimination then saying I am not gonna name the perpetrators. People will only say he is seeking cheap publicity or were the ECB anti-Hindu as well for banning him?. First he denied those charges as well then admitted them. Danish Kaneria can not be trusted.

 

[shane]

Wonder if he was thinking about Pakistan's image when he was taking money to fix cricket matches.

 

[BaankeJi]

Wonder if he was thinking about Pakistan's image when he was taking money to fix cricket matches.

Good point. Someone should ask him that.

 

[Slog]

Wonder if he was thinking about Pakistan's image when he was taking money to fix cricket matches.

He never took money to be fair

 

[shlazz]

Ata ur Reham was crushed by the system because he stood up against superstars on corruption. I don't see him engaging in blackmail or demanding a certain standard of living. He is actually a taxi driver in UK now and looking after his family. I dont think this guy is ashamed in the least of what damage he has done to the country. Rather than having some kind of embarrassment, he is rambling on about how the same country that he tarnished with his involvement in match fixing owes him a living. Learn from Ata ur Rehman, drive a taxi if you have to and provide for your family. Do not use your religion to make a quick buck.

Actually Ata ur Rehman was helped in settling in UK by the powerful people and close friends of the Ringleader to watershed his testimony, otherwise he had a solid case against him which would have ended the superstar's career. Justice Qayuum also mentioned it in his report.

 

[Waleed93]

He is not taking names because it will affect Pakistan's image.

I wonder why didn't he care about Pakistan's image while fixing matches or while playing the religion card and giving the Indian Media a chance to mock Pakistan ?