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Mohammad Rizwan shared following thoughts in the post match presentation after losing against New Zealand in the first ODI of Tri-Nation series:

Thoughts on losing the match:

"When we lose, it only looks difficult then. When we were bowling, the wicket looked a bit difficult. The way Phillips batted was outstanding. He left us speechless. Some learning experiences for us today. We need to focus on what we can improve on, we need to work on our fielding."

Thoughts on need of another specialist spinner in the side:

"No, basically we suffered because of the Haris Rauf injury in the midst of the match. If we play an all-arounder, we can't expect him to bowl ten overs. But Khushdil and Salman Ali Agha (especially) bowled some overs today (because of Haris Rauf injury)."

On Haris Rauf's injury:

"There's no confirmation yet but the doctor told us it's not a serious injury."

Strategy for next match

"As a batting unit, we need to analyze the situation and bat. We need to stitch good partnerships when wickets are falling."

 
The Bald Eagle said:
Mohammad Rizwan shared following thoughts in the post match presentation after losing against New Zealand in the first ODI of Tri-Nation series:

Thoughts on losing the match:

"When we lose, it only looks difficult then. When we were bowling, the wicket looked a bit difficult. The way Phillips batted was outstanding. He left us speechless. Some learning experiences for us today. We need to focus on what we can improve on, we need to work on our fielding."

Thoughts on need of another specialist spinner in the side:

"No, basically we suffered because of the Haris Rauf injury in the midst of the match. If we play an all-arounder, we can't expect him to bowl ten overs. But Khushdil and Salman Ali Agha (especially) bowled some overs today (because of Haris Rauf injury)."

On Haris Rauf's injury:

"There's no confirmation yet but the doctor told us it's not a serious injury."

Strategy for next match

"As a batting unit, we need to analyze the situation and bat. We need to stitch good partnerships when wickets are falling."
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"When we lose, it only looks difficult then. When we were bowling, the wicket looked a bit difficult. The way Phillips batted was outstanding. He left us speechless. Some learning experiences for us today. We need to focus on what we can improve on, we need to work on our fielding."

Hain? You guys didnt field badly today? Or drop any catch? what does fielding have to do with anything? Only thing you need to improve on is preventing those doubles. You should focus on improving your own captaincy skills and tell your bowlers not to get spanked in the final 20 overs.

"No, basically we suffered because of the Haris Rauf injury in the midst of the match. If we play an all-arounder, we can't expect him to bowl ten overs. But Khushdil and Salman Ali Agha (especially) bowled some overs today (because of Haris Rauf injury)."

Then why did NZ play spinners which includes 2 part timers and they ended up rolling you over? They can easily bowl 10 full overs if needed.

"As a batting unit, we need to analyze the situation and bat. We need to stitch good partnerships when wickets are falling."

And how do you plan to do that?

 
dumb statement. Rauf bowled u 6 overs. So you are saying you lost the game due to 4 overs?

Had rauf not bowled well and got hit for more runs, than you would had needed a 6th bowler never the less.

We lost due to no proper spinner and poor batting. end of story, no need for excuses.
 
I think Pakistan should go with Sajid khan, Noman Ali, Abrar like they do in tests drop the pacers. Pacers will be thrashed around anyway.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
I think Pakistan should go with Sajid khan, Noman Ali, Abrar like they do in tests drop the pacers. Pacers will be thrashed around anyway.
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Why do you think pacers will be thrashed does australia who won world cup drop their pacers and play spinners they only played zampa just just like pak played abrar why do you think spinners are better than pacers bro any reason behind it?
 
jnaveen1980 said:
I think Pakistan should go with Sajid khan, Noman Ali, Abrar like they do in tests drop the pacers. Pacers will be thrashed around anyway.
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I agree this CT is the heaven for quality spinners, Rizwan by endorsing Aaqib Ball has incurred the blame on his self now.
 
The seamers were actually bowling well until the 2nd drinks break.

God knows what they drank, it was back to Bobsy era after that!
 
Aqib_mustafa said:
Why do you think pacers will be thrashed does australia who won world cup drop their pacers and play spinners they only played zampa just just like pak played abrar why do you think spinners are better than pacers bro any reason behind it?
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The pitch i saw looked dry, bounce was low, pitch was slow. It became very hard to time the ball. ON such pitches pacers can be targeted easily.
 
I honestly don't get it why Pakistan after winning three back to back away series in ODI go into a panic mode. Saim injury is unfortunate but doesn't mean the core of the team was not tested in the beforementioned series..... I think Aqib & selectors tried to get too cute and thought we "know what we are doing" and we will show it to the players that it's because of them Pakistan won the 3 series. They should have and actually now should go back to the tried team and just find an opener to replace Saim, period. No need to experiment just before the important tournament when they were doing just fine the past few months. They need to have two spin bowlers and trust that they together with 3 fast bowlers can limit the opposition as they cannot outbat the top teams in the Champions trophy.
 
Our team is very unbalanced yet nothing is done about it. Shaheen is batting 2 spots too high.
 
emranabbas said:
Ramiz will be the first one to cry his eyes out if non performers like Babar are dropped
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Non performers like Babar? The guy is on number 1 ODI ranking for 5th year. What do you smoke? Even in his bad patch, he scores the most runs for your team. Get yourself checked.
 
heddie19 said:
Non performers like Babar? The guy is on number 1 ODI ranking for 5th year. What do you smoke? Even in his bad patch, he scores the most runs for your team. Get yourself checked.
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10 runs lol

He's just a statpadder, never won a game for pakistan in recent times
 
heddie19 said:
Non performers like Babar? The guy is on number 1 ODI ranking for 5th year. What do you smoke? Even in his bad patch, he scores the most runs for your team. Get yourself checked.
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Anyone can be no.1 when you're playing minnows and water down bowling attacks. Babar's record in ICC tournaments, barring the 2019 WC, is woeful. The reason is because he gets shown up by first string attacks.
 
BakuGM said:
I honestly don't get it why Pakistan after winning three back to back away series in ODI go into a panic mode. Saim injury is unfortunate but doesn't mean the core of the team was not tested in the beforementioned series..... I think Aqib & selectors tried to get too cute and thought we "know what we are doing" and we will show it to the players that it's because of them Pakistan won the 3 series. They should have and actually now should go back to the tried team and just find an opener to replace Saim, period. No need to experiment just before the important tournament when they were doing just fine the past few months. They need to have two spin bowlers and trust that they together with 3 fast bowlers can limit the opposition as they cannot outbat the top teams in the Champions trophy.
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Maaz Sadaqat was readymade replacement for Saim. Good batter and solid bowler. If he was included then there was no need to change too much
 
BakuGM said:
I honestly don't get it why Pakistan after winning three back to back away series in ODI go into a panic mode. Saim injury is unfortunate but doesn't mean the core of the team was not tested in the beforementioned series..... I think Aqib & selectors tried to get too cute and thought we "know what we are doing" and we will show it to the players that it's because of them Pakistan won the 3 series. They should have and actually now should go back to the tried team and just find an opener to replace Saim, period. No need to experiment just before the important tournament when they were doing just fine the past few months. They need to have two spin bowlers and trust that they together with 3 fast bowlers can limit the opposition as they cannot outbat the top teams in the Champions trophy.
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Those away series are an illusion. None of the team took those seriously.

Once CT came and the opponents actually selected the actual team, obviously Pakistan will go into panic mode because they too know the quality of the players that they are facing.
 
Playing 3 proper seamers in these conditions will not work in ODIs, out of Shaheen, Naseem & Rauf only two should be in playing eleven. They need to add specialist spinner or medium pacer who can bat with some responsibility. May be Amer Jamal or anyone else
 
mominsaigol said:
Afridi and Razzaq. Zero replacements in the lower order for these 2 goats.
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Pakistan had players , but they never developed them properly.
Remember Shoaib Malik used to bat at number 9 , but his batting was developed by batting up the order. As I said in another thread , if you want to develop multi skills you have to do that in live games.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
It’s been 10 years, and we still haven’t found anyone to replace Shahid Afridi.
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As an overall package, he was a huge asset in limited overs cricket. No one who considered Afridi a bowling AR should be disappointed. Only those who looked at him as a batting AR and expected more 37 ball centuries were the ones disappointed mostly.
 
Justcrazy said:
Pakistan had players , but they never developed them properly.
Remember Shoaib Malik used to bat at number 9 , but his batting was developed by batting up the order. As I said in another thread , if you want to develop multi skills you have to do that in live games.
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They had players but they never had afridi and razza level players. Finding amd devloping such players is difficult even for the big 3.
 
zaidihusain said:
Playing 3 proper seamers in these conditions will not work in ODIs, out of Shaheen, Naseem & Rauf only two should be in playing eleven. They need to add specialist spinner or medium pacer who can bat with some responsibility. May be Amer Jamal or anyone else
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India is playing Panday plus two spin all rounders , that makes proper batter at number 8.
Pakistan needs to find a way to get in someone like Imad of shadab in at number 8.
 
mominsaigol said:
They had players but they never had afridi and razza level players. Finding amd devloping such players is difficult even for the big 3.
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Look , you will not have same level players all the time , but where is the skill development?
For example Bowlers like Sami , Gul , Rao iftikhar were decent with bat , but they never worked on there batting skills.

Pakistan also , had Mansoor Amjad , he was decent leg spinner as well as good with bat.
Even now , how many overs they are bowling fakhar ?

This way if you play 5 specialist bowlers in OD , with batting ending at number 7 , you will not be able to compete in modern day cricket.
 
BakuGM said:
I honestly don't get it why Pakistan after winning three back to back away series in ODI go into a panic mode. Saim injury is unfortunate but doesn't mean the core of the team was not tested in the beforementioned series..... I think Aqib & selectors tried to get too cute and thought we "know what we are doing" and we will show it to the players that it's because of them Pakistan won the 3 series. They should have and actually now should go back to the tried team and just find an opener to replace Saim, period. No need to experiment just before the important tournament when they were doing just fine the past few months. They need to have two spin bowlers and trust that they together with 3 fast bowlers can limit the opposition as they cannot outbat the top teams in the Champions trophy.
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Exactly , this mindset of thinking is because of me Pak win matches and series is there from the chairman to every single player in their culture.

Saim Ayub replacement is already there with Fakhar Zaman .. if Shafique out of form Imam and Shan are there why would you make Babar to open in ODIs which he has not done that well before.

Suddenly Faheem Ashraf , Khusdil shah pop from nowhere
 
With this team I’m sure they will lose to SA also and Aaqib will look clueless with what he has selected

Nightmare before champions trophy , this team stands no chance against India and Newzealand just showed what they can do against this friends 11

India and Newzealand will go through to next stage and Pakistan will watch the remaining games in TV sit quietly at home
 
One of Khushdil or Agha Salman should go. Can’t select both in the lineup. Need to replace one of them with a proper batter. I would opt for Saud Shakeel in the next game. And for God's sake, drop Abrar Ahmed and bring back Shadab Khan.
 
Farhan The Man said:
A jungle monkey with flailing arms can replace afridi.

He wasn't the brightest tool.
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Here’s your response…
Bhaijaan said:
As an overall package, he was a huge asset in limited overs cricket. No one who considered Afridi a bowling AR should be disappointed. Only those who looked at him as a batting AR and expected more 37 ball centuries were the ones disappointed mostly.
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Mercurial said:
One of Khushdil or Agha Salman should go. Can’t select both in the lineup. Need to replace one of them with a proper batter. I would opt for Saud Shakeel in the next game. And for God's sake, drop Abrar Ahmed and bring back Shadab Khan.
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Shadab cant even get in his domestic team...a stat for you he has finally played first class and hasnt got ONE wicket in 7 matches so far
 
What is an Allrounder?

Someone who is capable of being selected either for his bowling or batting and not bits and pieces players who has hit a few sixes in a franchise league.

Khushdil Shah is fraud in both batting and bowling. Faheem Ashraf could give you 10 overs in extremely helpgul conditions but most days and most surfaces he would be taken apart and shouldn't be given the bowl and batting wise he also has more bad days then good.

Shahid Afridi:

He has never an all-rounder. He was a very good legspin option for LOI.

The only peieple who consider Shahid an all rounder are fangirls and Soya boys with a crush on him.

His intellect cricketing and otherwise is low. As a person he is cringe, I have seen his charity presentations and I have seen his Media interactions where he changes for the Camera.

In Pakistan, he is admired for his looks more than his cricketing skills.

Abdur Razzaq:

Prime Abdur Razzaq could hit 90mph, sustain his spells and he also could bat number 3 or shunt at various positions and be a power hitter so yes as a pace all rounder, (prime) Abdur Razzaq should be a role model
 
LordJames said:
He has never an all-rounder. He was a very good legspin option for LOI.
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He has a test average of 36 with the bat, for an all rounder that is pretty decent considering that most of the times he’d come out swinging from ball one.

He is an all rounder, I’ll always say that he was a better batter than bowler but, he under achieved as a batter.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
He has a test average of 36 with the bat, for an all rounder that is pretty decent considering that most of the times he’d come out swinging from ball one.

He is an all rounder, I’ll always say that he was a better batter than bowler but, he under achieved as a batter.
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Average of 36 across 27 Tests exaggerated due to playing in West Indies! If he had played more, the same would have happened as what happens to him in ODI and T20. The context here is LOI.

No argument with you because nobody can win against someone who considers Afridi "All-rounder" because it isn't about cricketing ability because even a blind man could see Afridi batting ability in LOI whether it was because of temperament or ego or fragile mindset the results were all to see .
 
A Nation which considers Shahid Afridi an "All-rounder" is setting itself to fail
 
That's true. You cannot rely or expect players like Khushdil or Salman to bowl more than 10 overs together in every game.

Haris's injury was real setback in the game in that context. But Rizwan may need to use his spinners better and perhaps bowl the quota of 5th bowler out way before 40th over mark.

Maybe try brining in Salman early like after 10th over mark to get some of his overs early on.
 
RidiculousMan said:
That's true. You cannot rely or expect players like Khushdil or Salman to bowl more than 10 overs together in every game.

Haris's injury was real setback in the game in that context. But Rizwan may need to use his spinners better and perhaps bowl the quota of 5th bowler out way before 40th over mark.

Maybe try brining in Salman early like after 10th over mark to get some of his overs early on.
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Pakistan's top 2 went for 88 and 70.in their quota respectively. The lone spinner only went for 41 and got Pakistan 2 wickets.

Don't you think that the selection and the balance is messed up?

Haris injury didn't lose the game but it is a good excuse to hide behind
 
Would have been nice to see someone like haider Ali/khawaja nafay in to see how they get on in this series. Promote them to the champs trophy squad if done well. Faheem ashraf don’t know how he is in there rather have aamer jamal
 
Mercurial said:
One of Khushdil or Agha Salman should go. Can’t select both in the lineup. Need to replace one of them with a proper batter. I would opt for Saud Shakeel in the next game. And for God's sake, drop Abrar Ahmed and bring back Shadab Khan.
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Abrar for Shadab Khan? What's next, Khusdil for Azam Khan?
 
LordJames said:
Average of 36 across 27 Tests exaggerated due to playing in West Indies! If he had played more, the same would have happened as what happens to him in ODI and T20. The context here is LOI.
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Out of the 27 test matches, 3 of those were against West Indies. 3 Test matches lol.

LordJames said:
No argument with you because nobody can win against someone who considers Afridi "All-rounder" because it isn't about cricketing ability because even a blind man could see Afridi batting ability in LOI whether it was because of temperament or ego or fragile mindset the results were all to see .
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Well, he is an all rounder. He won us games with the bat more than he did with the ball.

He’s won us a major tournament with the bat.

How much does one have to average to be considered an all rounder in your books? 30? 40? 50?
 
YousafTheBeast said:
No sign of @RizwanT20Champ

He only tags you when Rizwan scores 40+, so not very often.
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Good to see you back after Rizwan led Pakistan to series wins in Aus and SA. Do stick around for the CT. It will be like T20 WC 2009 again, everything is in motion. We have a dynamic strong leader like YK (Rizwan), a match winner with the ball like Aamer (Shaheen), enforcer like Gul (Naseem) and X factor like Lala (Babar). It's coming home!
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Good to see you back after Rizwan led Pakistan to series wins in Aus and SA. Do stick around for the CT. It will be like T20 WC 2009 again, everything is in motion. We have a dynamic strong leader like YK (Rizwan), a match winner with the ball like Aamer (Shaheen), enforcer like Gul (Naseem) and X factor like Lala (Babar). It's coming home!
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Nice joke
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Out of the 27 test matches, 3 of those were against West Indies. 3 Test matches lol.



Well, he is an all rounder. He won us games with the bat more than he did with the ball.

He’s won us a major tournament with the bat.

How much does one have to average to be considered an all rounder in your books? 30? 40? 50?
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As I said, it's pointless arguing and you have your opinion and I have mine.

This thread is about All-rounders in LOI and you are throwing Afridi's 37 Average in 27 Tests to advance his cause to be considered an All-rounder in LOI.

Every dog has its day & Afridi failed 95 times in LOI and performed 5 times and that 5 times happened to be in a Tournament which you are quoting.

Consisting Afridi an All-rounder in LOI is exactly what's wrong with the Nation.

Most of us saw Afridi bat in LOI, fail fall again and again and again.

He was a decent to good legspinner and no denying that.

But you win the argument by quoting 37 Average in 27 Test Matches to prove his All-rounder pedigree in LOI.

Good luck.
 
Afridi was an excellent ODI package.
Could give 10 overs per inns in subcontinental conditions and easily 7-8 in SENA with wicket taking ability

And then with bat he averaged 20 at 120 SR.

Throw in his quality fielding.

He was proper x factor player and having him and hafeez (when he wasnt being banned) in team gave amazing bowling depth.
 
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Why is nobody talking about him.He is 100x better than fakedil and kg.
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He is just ok. Anyone is better than khushdil but he isn't better than kg.
Agha level as a bowler. I rate mubasir khan higher than him despite slightly inferior record.
Would take him over khushdil tho anyday.
 
Marooned said:
He is just ok. Anyone is better than khushdil but he isn't better than kg.he
Agha level as a bowler. I rate mubasir khan higher than him despite slightly inferior record.
Would take him over khushdil tho anyday.
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Qasim akram is overall a better bat than kg,he is quite underrated
 
jamie smith said:
Qasim akram is overall a better bat than kg,he is quite underrated
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kg has been the best standout domestic batsman in Pakistan for last few years both formats. Akram isn't close.

This is just the typical tendency of our fans to look for the next shiny toy.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Good to see you back after Rizwan led Pakistan to series wins in Aus and SA. Do stick around for the CT. It will be like T20 WC 2009 again, everything is in motion. We have a dynamic strong leader like YK (Rizwan), a match winner with the ball like Aamer (Shaheen), enforcer like Gul (Naseem) and X factor like Lala (Babar). It's coming home!
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I log in every day lol, you’re the one that goes into hiding when Rizwan fails.
 
LordJames said:
As I said, it's pointless arguing and you have your opinion and I have mine.

This thread is about All-rounders in LOI and you are throwing Afridi's 37 Average in 27 Tests to advance his cause to be considered an All-rounder in LOI.

Every dog has its day & Afridi failed 95 times in LOI and performed 5 times and that 5 times happened to be in a Tournament which you are quoting.

Consisting Afridi an All-rounder in LOI is exactly what's wrong with the Nation.

Most of us saw Afridi bat in LOI, fail fall again and again and again.

He was a decent to good legspinner and no denying that.

But you win the argument by quoting 37 Average in 27 Test Matches to prove his All-rounder pedigree in LOI.

Good luck.
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Nah you’re twisting it lol…

You said Afridi wasn’t an all rounder, I gave you his test stats to show you he was a pretty decent all rounder.

I get the thread is for LOI, but you cannot call a player an all rounder in tests and say he’s not an all rounder in LOI, unless he isn’t bowling in LOI.

You’re either an all rounder or you’re not, this isn’t a matter of opinion.

As an All rounder, Afridi has pretty decent stats in his 27 Test match career.

As an All rounder, Afridi underachieved with the bat. That doesn’t mean he’s not an all rounder.
 
He had Agha Salman who bowled pretty well in his limited overs but Khushdil was the "chosen" all rounder but the management & Rizwan.

Stick with Aamer Jamal, Agha Salman as your 5 & 6th bowlers. They are more than capable for there roles.
 
Rizwan surely knows he and selectors have screwed up picking Khushdil, and then he had to bowl him more than Agha to try and justify his place. I cannot believe how before every big ever Pakistanis mess up selection.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Yes, RizwanT20Champ sounds like someone who comes on to a forum to show support for the team. Definitely not someone who’s glazing over 2 players regardless of the result of our matches.
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Be very afraid bro. CT 2025 Pakistan is being led by waugh (Rizwan), with a playing 11 spearheaded by Lara(Babar) and a terrifying bowling trio of mcgrath, bumrah and Wasim( Shaheen, Naseem, Rauf)

^^ Wise words of @RizwanT20Champ
 
mominsaigol said:
Be very afraid bro. CT 2025 Pakistan is being led by waugh (Rizwan), with a playing 11 spearheaded by Lara(Babar) and a terrifying bowling trio of mcgrath, bumrah and Wasim( Shaheen, Naseem, Rauf)

^^ Wise words of @RizwanT20Champ
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This team has a legendary middle order as well. Kamran ' Ponting' Ghulam, Saud 'Yuvraj singh' Shakeel, Salman 'Bevan' Ali agha etc.... Don't forget about Legendary Usman khan.
 
BouncerGuy said:
This team has a legendary middle order as well. Kamran ' Ponting' Ghulam, Saud 'Yuvraj singh' Shakeel, Salman 'Bevan' Ali agha etc.... Don't forget about Legendary Usman khan.
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Pakistan team is overrated, with aus being weakened India and Nz are the 2 strongest teams of the tournament.

But don't count saud shakeel out. He's the best batsmen in the squad after fakhar atm.
 
Did Rizwan actually said in a presser that "King kar le ga". If yes thats very poor of him,
 
mominsaigol said:
Pakistan team is overrated, with aus being weakened India and Nz are the 2 strongest teams of the tournament.

But don't count saud shakeel out. He's the best batsmen in the squad after fakhar atm.
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Saud should come in for Kamran and should also be used to bowl an over or 2. Kamran is a walking wicket atm.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Saud should come in for Kamran and should also be used to bowl an over or 2. Kamran is a walking wicket atm.
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Kamran is better on current form then Babar. Just saying.

Why not drop babar and have saud play at no 3 with kamran opening?

Or is babar still your golden boy?
 
mominsaigol said:
Kamran is better on current form then Babar. Just saying.

Why not drop babar and have saud play at no 3 with kamran opening?

Or is babar still your golden boy?
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Not for ODIs. Kamran can be your go to guy in red ball but in ODI???? Nope. he is fine to play at 4 if rizwan is not going to drop him. Not at 3. Babar should play at 3... Bring in Saud to open and you can drop tayyab maybe
 
BouncerGuy said:
Not for ODIs. Kamran can be your go to guy in red ball but in ODI???? Nope. he is fine to play at 4 if rizwan is not going to drop him. Not at 3. Babar should play at 3... Bring in Saud to open and you can drop tayyab maybe
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In odi's yes, Babar is a waste atm. SA curated highways during the odi series.

They underestimated Pakistan because in tests Pakistan always gets outbatted however they didn't expect a saim ayub onslaught nor did they expect Pakistani batters like rizwan, Babar or kamran to tonk them with 100 to 120 sr's. They didn't think someone like kamran could smack em for 60 of 30 give or take.

SA got outbatted in the sa odi series but they put us in our place in tests.

Pakistani pitches atleast from what I saw in both games aren't highways. Their batting Friendly due to the fact that the outfield is fast hence if you time it, it'll fly to the boundary

However the pitch itself is slow and the batters who are succeeding on this pitch like Williamson, Conway, Fakhar, Are all utilising their feet, Something Babar, Rizwan, And Kamran are incapable of doing.
 
mominsaigol said:
In odi's yes, Babar is a waste atm. SA curated highways during the odi series.

They underestimated Pakistan because in tests Pakistan always gets outbatted however they didn't expect a saim ayub onslaught nor did they expect Pakistani batters like rizwan, Babar or kamran to tonk them with 100 to 120 sr's. They didn't think someone like kamran could smack em for 60 of 30 give or take.

SA got outbatted in the sa odi series but they put us in our place in tests.

Pakistani pitches atleast from what I saw in both games aren't highways. Their batting Friendly due to the fact that the outfield is fast hence if you time it, it'll fly to the boundary

However the pitch itself is slow and the batters who are succeeding on this pitch like Williamson, Conway, Fakhar, Are all utilising their feet, Something Babar, Rizwan, And Kamran are incapable of doing.
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Babar is your number 3. He is still better than many other over-hyped guys. For me, this is his last chance to make something happen with his batting. I don't think he should open even though there is not a lot of difference in number 3 and opener as far as Pakistan is concerned.

I would definitely bring in Saud for kamran to give him another chance.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Babar is your number 3. He is still better than many other over-hyped guys. For me, this is his last chance to make something happen with his batting. I don't think he should open even though there is not a lot of difference in number 3 and opener as far as Pakistan is concerned.

I would definitely bring in Saud for kamran to give him another chance.
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No 3 is vastly different from no 1.

If a batter gets out in the first or 2 over, The no 3 has that added pressure of not giving his wicket away. They can't have the same mentality of an opener to just go bang bang.( not that Babar goes bang bang as an opener anyway)

However if he comes in the 5th or 7th, He can typically take time to get settled as atleast one batter had been out their for 30 to 40 deliveries.

If he comes during the 10th to 15th, then taking singles is a priority to get off strike and avoid putting the other settled batter under pressure.
 
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