[PICTURE] Indian couple trolled over skin colour after wedding video goes viral

[KingKhanWC]

A sad story to read, why are trolls attacking this couple , they look very happy?

Not really about India, Pakistan has the same issue imo.

Do people marry based on looks and wealth even in 2025? In India or Pakistan if a man is not as handsome as much as the girl is pretty, is this seen as strange? Or Vice Versa? Why cant a light skinned person not be with a dark skinned?

@Bhaijaan @Cpt. Rishwat Will this marriage last?


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Rishabh Rajput and Sonali Chouksey met in college 11 years ago, fell in love and married last month.

Photos and videos from their colourful wedding showed the happy couple from the central Indian state of Madhya Pradesh performing rituals and posing in their finery.

But when they shared their happiest moment on social media, the congratulatory messages came peppered with "jokes and memes" with trolls comparing and criticising the couple over the groom's skin colour.

In India, where obsession with fair skin colour is well documented and can sometimes even have tragic consequences, the groom faced intense online shaming and was called names for his "darker skin colour".

The trolls did not spare the bride either, with many suggesting she had married him "for his money".

"She must have had some compulsion," one wrote. Another suggested she couldn't be happy with a husband like that. Some labelled her a "gold-digger," claiming she married him for wealth or a secure government job with perks. One comment suggested that Mr Rajput's father must be "a government minister".

The couple, who married on 23 November, have since gone viral because of the trolling - and their response, as they addressed the criticism head-on. They have been sought out by local media and given scores of interviews in the past two weeks.

"People were making jokes and memes and it felt very wrong," Mr Rajput told BBC Hindi from his home in Jabalpur.

"It was our moment and we had waited for it so many years. It was supposed to be a happy moment, but when I saw people's reactions, I was really shocked," he said.

"In so many years that we have been together, no-one had ever told us that we were a mismatch because I have dark complexion while she is fairer," he added.

Jabalpur: Indian couple trolled over skin colour after wedding video goes viral

Rishabh Rajput and Sonali Chouksey received congratulatory messages peppered with "jokes and memes".

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Lol how the hell did this make BBC news.

Yes its a shame. But when you share your personal moments online you should be prepared for both negative and positive attention.

Interesting that the women is seen as light skinned here, they would be both be termed as black by majority of Pakistanis.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Lol how the hell did this make BBC news.

Yes its a shame. But when you share your personal moments online you should be prepared for both negative and positive attention.

Interesting that the women is seen as light skinned here, they would be both be termed as black by majority of Pakistanis.

BBC have licence fees to use.

They both seem very happy together, its very strange people are hating on them. Do you think its some sort of warped jealousy mainly from male trolls?

They both spoke very well here.

 

[sweep_shot]

Indians are very nosy I guess. This wedding should be none of their concern but they want to troll and make lives difficult for the couple.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

BBC have licence fees to use.

They both seem very happy together, its very strange people are hating on them. Do you think its some sort of warped jealousy mainly from male trolls?

They both spoke very well here.

Best of luck to them.

People say awful things online. Especially Indians. Many Indians males have incel behaviour.

So it's not a surprise they are being trolled.

My advice to anyone is keep your private business private and then apart from your phupos commenting on your looks, nobody else will be able to.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

So bad from Indians, pure racism... unfortunately such sentiments exist worldwide

 

[KingKhanWC]

Indians are very nosy I guess. This wedding should be none of their concern but they want to troll and make lives difficult for the couple.

I agree, imo its due to spending so much time watching movies, shows which are all about drama,conflict, gossip.

Everyone is entitled to have their own preferences with looks but hating on others who are clearly very happy is strange behaviour indeed.

 

[KingKhanWC]

So bad from Indians, pure racism... unfortunately such sentiments exist worldwide

It seems it has caused sadness for the husband. He must be wondering what is wrong with him and why people think his wife will leave him or only married him for his money. It will be interesting to see how this marriage unfolds going forward.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Lol how the hell did this make BBC news.

Yes its a shame. But when you share your personal moments online you should be prepared for both negative and positive attention.

Interesting that the women is seen as light skinned here, they would be both be termed as black by majority of Pakistanis.

Anything to put India in bad light will make it to the news. Even if it is as silly as this.

You will not see the news about an Indian start up working on a humanoid robot. It will go against their narrative.

 

[RexRex]

I see it's a slow news day for the BBC.

 

[sweep_shot]

Rather than condemning it, Indians are blaming BBC. Typical.

Good job, BBC. Dark side of India needs to be highlighted.

 

[sweep_shot]

Anything to put India in bad light will make it to the news. Even if it is as silly as this.

You will not see the news about an Indian start up working on a humanoid robot. It will go against their narrative.

You shouldn't expect non-Indian news channels to praise India 24/7. World doesn't revolve around India.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Rather than condemning it, Indians are blaming BBC. Typical.

Good job, BBC. Dark side of India needs to be highlighted.

BBC are actually siding with the couple, sharing their concerns and sadness at the trolling.

I wouldnt be surprised if some on here also have trolled this newly married couple.

It shows, they have no empathy, prefter trolling, showing hate online . This to them is normal, nothing wrong with it from their pov.

I think its better not for Indian couples to share their weddings on to the public.

 

[Suleiman]

This is by far the most pathetic paradigm the subcontinent struggles with outside of religion issues.

The most racist region in the world when it comes to skin color. KKK and Nazis would be proud honestly.

Racism exists in the entire world but the pathetic desis who still think “dark bad, light good” due to lack of brain cells are the worst racist scum of humanity.

Funnily enough the same dudes trolling the happy couple with racism are the same dudes begging and thirsting desperately for “Bob vagene” pics in other girls’ DM requests, light and dark skin alike.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Indians are very nosy I guess. This wedding should be none of their concern but they want to troll and make lives difficult for the couple.

With 1.4 billion people, even if 0.005% are jobless losers, they can troll anything as internet is dirt cheap now in India.

 

[Champ_Pal]

You shouldn't expect non-Indian news channels to praise India 24/7. World doesn't revolve around India.

When there are so many things to shine a light on India, bbc chooses this. It’s their news. No wonder they have become a joke.

 

[KingKhanWC]

When there are so many things to shine a light on India, bbc chooses this. It’s their news. No wonder they have become a joke.

Its also in numerous Indian news outlets.

'Power of money': MP couple's 'dream' wedding becomes ground for trolls; attacked with racist comments | India News - The Times of India

India News: A Madhya Pradesh couple's wedding video became a breeding ground for trolls after it was bombarded with racist and misogynistic comment because of the.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Please start a thread on the BBC.

What is your opinion on the obsession with light skin in India? Would you marry a dark sinned person?

 

[Ball Blazer]

racism is very common in India and Pakistan. Even so many Indian poems on YouTube, I show them to my nephew and niece on a daily basis, have words like Kala and Mota. Just noted a few days back.... Time to stop before they get used to these words

 

[KingKhanWC]

racism is very common in India and Pakistan. Even so many Indian poems on YouTube, I show them to my nephew and niece on a daily basis, have words like Kala and Mota. Just noted a few days back.... Time to stop before they get used to these words

Usually racism is met out towards those from a different ethnicity or race. Its weird Indians being racist to other Indians (or Pakistanis) because their skin is slightly darker?

How many light skinned Indians are there? I've only met a few in the Uk, all Sikhs.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

BBC have licence fees to use.

They both seem very happy together, its very strange people are hating on them. Do you think its some sort of warped jealousy mainly from male trolls?

They both spoke very well here.

It's a shame that people judge the guy by his skin colour, when you actually see him speak on that video it's clear that he has plenty of confidence and women find that attractive. If he was fair skinned everyone would be congratulating the lady on finding a good catch.

Indians are so mentally colonised they have been brainwashed into thinking fair skin is the be all and end all.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Its also in numerous Indian news outlets.

'Power of money': MP couple's 'dream' wedding becomes ground for trolls; attacked with racist comments | India News - The Times of India

India News: A Madhya Pradesh couple's wedding video became a breeding ground for trolls after it was bombarded with racist and misogynistic comment because of the.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Please start a thread on the BBC.

What is your opinion on the obsession with light skin in India? Would you marry a dark sinned person?

My wife is darker than me.

Light skin signifies higher pedigree in India. Mughals and British are all light skinned. It’s a thousand year old servitude.

 

[KingKhanWC]

It's a shame that people judge the guy by his skin colour, when you actually see him speak on that video it's clear that he has plenty of confidence and women find that attractive. If he was fair skinned everyone would be congratulating the lady on finding a good catch.

Indians are so mentally colonised they have been brainwashed into thinking fair skin is the be all and end all.

I actually think colonisation does play a part. When Indians saw white folks arrive in Saville Row suits and women arrive in big dresses with blue eyes and blond hair they let their guards down and it helped the conquerors.

Agree, seems very confident, has known his wife since college, seems a good husband for her, yet he gets abuse?

 

[KingKhanWC]

My wife is darker than me.

Light skin signifies higher pedigree in India. Mughals and British are all light skinned. It’s a thousand year old servitude.

Agree, this is the issue imo. Best wishes to you and your wife for a long and healthy marriage. India and other places need more people thinking like you.

 

[sweep_shot]

I am dark-skinned. I got called kalu/kala/bandar many times; by some Bangladeshis and also 1 non-Bangladeshi (desi). I guess this is a problem in the entire subcontinent.

Anyway, I am personally not offended by these things. I have a thick skin (both literally and figuratively).

 

[Champ_Pal]

I am dark-skinned. I got called kalu/kala/bandar many times; by some Bangladeshis and also 1 non-Bangladeshi (desi). I guess this is a problem in the entire subcontinent.

Anyway, I am personally not offended by these things. I have a thick skin (both literally and figuratively).

Dark skin means indigenous(Tribal and Dalits). Even Upper caste has some individuals with dark skin.

 

[sweep_shot]

Dark skin means indigenous(Tribal and Dalits). Even Upper caste has some individuals with dark skin.

True. Skin color shouldn't be a factor.

Good news is new generation of Bangladeshis don't care about skin colors much. This was more of a thing among boomers.

 

[Suleiman]

I actually think colonisation does play a part. When Indians saw white folks arrive in Saville Row suits and women arrive in big dresses with blue eyes and blond hair they let their guards down and it helped the conquerors.

Agree, seems very confident, has known his wife since college, seems a good husband for her, yet he gets abuse?

Also, guys like Churchill’s entire ruling philosophy was that white Christians are at the top of the “racial hierarchy”- imagine being exposed to this ideology for centuries by foreign rulers. Not much different than Hitler. I posted before how he had very twisted philosophies around making “inferior races” especially ones that were harder to rule subconsciously submit themselves to British rule by they themselves feeling inferior to differences that otherwise had no meaning. Race, clothing, language etc- the effects of which we can see to this day. This would kill their passion and desire to be free and work as a codependency mechanism where they look to the colonial ruler as their leaders and guides.

Alhamdullilah for Islam which breaks us free from this sort of mental oppression. Unfortunately uneducated Muslims fall into this trap as well, again, more in South Asia than anywhere else.

 

[Rafale Nidhal Fan]

Rather than condemning it, Indians are blaming BBC. Typical.

Good job, BBC. Dark side of India needs to be highlighted.

they probably going to blame Pakistan army for this at the end and make another bollywood movie

 

[amax]

Dark skin means indigenous(Tribal and Dalits). Even Upper caste has some individuals with dark skin.

I think orginal inhabitant of Indus valley were of dark skin tone , type of people you find in Sindh and Multan region.

 

[straighttalk]

Lol how the hell did this make BBC news.

Yes its a shame. But when you share your personal moments online you should be prepared for both negative and positive attention.

Interesting that the women is seen as light skinned here, they would be both be termed as black by majority of Pakistanis.

Not really they are not celebrities..they are simply sharing their wedding pics...what kind of person makes this kind of comments.

Color bias is massive in India where fair skin is equated to beauty. This affects both men and women. Incidentally it's not so much in the West where fair skin in Caucasians is a given and they like to get tanned. There are many couples in US where the Indian woman is not considered beautiful in India but has no issues dating in US.

Lastly your comment at the end is pushing the color bias more...sorry to say

 

[straighttalk]

Indians are very nosy I guess. This wedding should be none of their concern but they want to troll and make lives difficult for the couple.

Just stop...there is no difference in nosiness in India Bangladesh or Paksitan..it's a subcontinental thing

 

[straighttalk]

It's a shame that people judge the guy by his skin colour, when you actually see him speak on that video it's clear that he has plenty of confidence and women find that attractive. If he was fair skinned everyone would be congratulating the lady on finding a good catch.

Indians are so mentally colonised they have been brainwashed into thinking fair skin is the be all and end all.

Your are right but it is not an Indian thing. It is a subcontinental thing.

 

[RexRex]

Alhamdullilah for Islam which breaks us free from this sort of mental oppression.

No, it doesnt .. lol. Not keen on generalisations but the Middle East is a pretty racist place. Another example is Pakistan.

 

[Suleiman]

No, it doesnt .. lol. Not keen on generalisations but the Middle East is a pretty racist place. Another example is Pakistan.

Should’ve finished reading the paragraph instead of prematurely reacting, because then you’d see I address both.

Islam does away with racism, if an uneducated Muslim be it middle eastern or Pakistani fails to follow it, that is their failure.

 

[RexRex]

Should’ve finished reading the paragraph instead of prematurely reacting, because then you’d see I address both.

Islam does away with racism, if an uneducated Muslim be it middle eastern or Pakistani fails to follow it, that is their failure.

I can't think of any religion that says racism is ok. Islam isn't some unique creed in that regard.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Not really they are not celebrities..they are simply sharing their wedding pics...what kind of person makes this kind of comments.

Color bias is massive in India where fair skin is equated to beauty. This affects both men and women. Incidentally it's not so much in the West where fair skin in Caucasians is a given and they like to get tanned. There are many couples in US where the Indian woman is not considered beautiful in India but has no issues dating in US.

Lastly your comment at the end is pushing the color bias more...sorry to say

No I wasn't pushing a colour bias. I was just showing how perceptions of color are relative. These black Indians would be considered dark by most Pakistanis and would struggle to get rishta in middle-upper class Pakistanis households.

That doesn't mean I'm biased. It just shows how silly it is. The Pakistanis would be seen as dark skinned if they went to some European countries.

Such a mentality holds us back as a species.

 

[straighttalk]

No I wasn't pushing a colour bias. I was just showing how perceptions of color are relative. These black Indians would be considered dark by most Pakistanis and would struggle to get rishta in middle-upper class Pakistanis households.

That doesn't mean I'm biased. It just shows how silly it is. The Pakistanis would be seen as dark skinned if they went to some European countries.

Such a mentality holds us back as a species.

Fair point

 

[Energy]

Guy looks much happier than the girl. Nothing wrong in it.

 

[finalfantasy7]

I see it's a slow news day for the BBC.

is it, what do you want bbc to cover

 

[rickroll]

Entire South Asia is down with this colorism affliction because all of us were enslaved by the fairer skin British/Central Asians/Persians. My own Pakistani family (Punjabi and Sindhi) exhibit colorism and it is despicable.

This thread topic is a classic example of something that affects all of South Asia and instead of discussing it as a common issue, we are resorting to cheap point scoring. The article is about Indian couple, so .... "Let's jUSt fOcUS oN thE iNDiAn paRT aNd sAy hoW iNDiaNs arE blah blah ... " -- sounds plain stupid tbh.

I would love to see honest self reflecting comment and contribution from all South Asians in this thread regarding how all of our social circles share this colorism prejudice.

Good research paper on colorism in all of South Asia - https://scholar.utc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2191&context=theses

Colorism in India - https://www.stearthinktank.com/post/colorism-in-indian-society and probably a million other links about Indian colorism that you can find.
Colorism in Pakistan - https://observerdiplomat.com/colorism-still-a-societys-dark-secret-in-south-asia/ and https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapt...colorism-pakistan-tanzeela-khalid-sana-arshad
Colorism in Bangladesh - https://www.focusongeography.org/publications/articles/bangladeshi/index.html

I have seen first hand and heard first hand accounts from Punjabis being called "Kaliya" by Pashtuns (Afghan and Pakistani Pashtuns). I have heard from Sri Lankan folks how the Sinhalese exhibit colorism on darker skinned Tamils there. You can read about hill groups of Nepal showing colorism on darker skinned Madhesis.

Yeah yeah ... every religion of South Asia probably has some historic text advocating against colorism. Is that the reality though? All of us regularly witness or suffer in our respective South Asian circles. What can we do to counter/combat this in a socially acceptable manner? I would love to see posts/opinions about that instead of yet another senseless point scoring.

 

[JaDed]

Yeah yeah ... every religion of South Asia probably has some historic text advocating against colorism. Is that the reality though? All of us regularly witness or suffer in our respective South Asian circles. What can we do to counter/combat this in a socially acceptable manner? I would love to see posts/opinions about that instead of yet another senseless point scoring.

Honestly there were good movements in last decade to combat this in mainstream media/cinema of India but it’s not easy to combat it among society.

Indian actresses many are dusky now.. but the idea of fairness does remain a weird beauty standard as that’s what is promoted.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Color obsession exists... whitening cream Companies are cashing on it the most and people are just getting obsessed more and more with fair color...

Our social media and films and pathetic cream ads are making them more and more obsessed

 

[Rafale Nidhal Fan]

I can't think of any religion that says racism is ok. Islam isn't some unique creed in that regard.

hinduism says its ok....they literally have cast class, upper cast lower cast....

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Just stop...there is no difference in nosiness in India Bangladesh or Paksitan..it's a subcontinental thing

Bangladesh and Pakistan are relatively new creations. Truth is this attitude has been inherited from India just like the rest of the culture such as wedding rites, Bollywood and spicy food.

 

[Suleiman]

I can't think of any religion that says racism is ok. Islam isn't some unique creed in that regard.

Well it just so happens that the same country that the folks in this marriage are from has a pretty popular religion which divides individuals into classes and the lower most class is associated with a certain shade.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Honestly there were good movements in last decade to combat this in mainstream media/cinema of India but it’s not easy to combat it among society.

Indian actresses many are dusky now.. but the idea of fairness does remain a weird beauty standard as that’s what is promoted.

It is less common in Pakistan entertainment still.

Mainly, fair-skinned individuals are preferred, across all elements of society.

Some people are very racist, even someone with a Sarfraz Ahmed-type complexion would be called kalla. It is ingrained generationally, my grandmother had a ( slightly tongue in cheek but not fully) requirement that her grandsons wives should be goree - chittee, but for us growing up in the UK, surrounded by hip hop culture, black was beautiful.

 

[sweep_shot]

It is less common in Pakistan entertainment still.

Mainly, fair-skinned individuals are preferred, across all elements of society.

Some people are very racist, even someone with a Sarfraz Ahmed-type complexion would be called kalla. It is ingrained generationally, my grandmother had a ( slightly tongue in cheek but not fully) requirement that her grandsons wives should be goree - chittee, but for us growing up in the UK, surrounded by hip hop culture, black was beautiful.

My own aunt used to call me kalu. LMAO.

Anyway, these things do not bother me but some people may get upset/offended.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Lol I saw this and I knew they would be trolled for this.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Color obsession exists... whitening cream Companies are cashing on it the most and people are just getting obsessed more and more with fair color...

Our social media and films and pathetic cream ads are making them more and more obsessed

Its interesting, white folk spend billions on products to darken their skin, dark people spend to become pale.

If we are going to criticise lighting creams etc, why not suntan creams or sunbeds?

 

[Technics 1210]

Its interesting, white folk spend billions on products to darken their skin, dark people spend to become pale.

If we are going to criticise lighting creams etc, why not suntan creams or sunbeds?

Because the brown man never conquered the white man, it was the other way round.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Because the brown man never conquered the white man, it was the other way round.

Good point, barring the North African Muslims who ruled Spain for 800 years, this hasnt been the case in history.

However, why do white folk want to be darker?

 

[KingKhanWC]

@Rajdeep How are you getting on in the UK mate? Do you feel your skin colour is the reason you've not managed to get a date with a white girl?

 

[JaDed]

It is less common in Pakistan entertainment still.

Mainly, fair-skinned individuals are preferred, across all elements of society.

Some people are very racist, even someone with a Sarfraz Ahmed-type complexion would be called kalla. It is ingrained generationally, my grandmother had a ( slightly tongue in cheek but not fully) requirement that her grandsons wives should be goree - chittee, but for us growing up in the UK, surrounded by hip hop culture, black was beautiful.

That’s not only in your family, it was a consistent thing across families, and that’s what I meant by society..

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Good point, barring the North African Muslims who ruled Spain for 800 years, this hasnt been the case in history.

However, why do white folk want to be darker?

They haven't been mentally into thinking pale pink is somehow more attractive than a tan colour.

 

[KingKhanWC]

They haven't been mentally into thinking pale pink is somehow more attractive than a tan colour.

But they do think being darker looks far better than being pale. Tanning shops, sprays etc are worth billions in the west. Every town in the UK high streets are full of vape shops, turkish barbers and tanning shops lol

 

[Champ_Pal]

All of the trolls got owned. She put on a ton of make up for the wedding and that's about it.

Both are charming with nice smiles. Their facial features are good.

 

[JaDed]

All of the trolls got owned. She put on a ton of make up for the wedding and that's about it.

Both are charming with nice smiles. Their facial features are good.

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Are you sure of the left top pic?

 

[Technics 1210]

Good point, barring the North African Muslims who ruled Spain for 800 years, this hasnt been the case in history.

However, why do white folk want to be darker?

Pale white skin is the worst possible pigment foundation for makeup I guess?

 

[rickroll]

Because the brown man never conquered the white man, it was the other way round.

True this! Colorism stems from slave mentality infused inferiority complex. Sort of like the worst bullies in school would be those with rampant psychological insecurities on the inside.

 

[rickroll]

Bangladesh and Pakistan are relatively new creations. Truth is this attitude has been inherited from India just like the rest of the culture such as wedding rites, Bollywood and spicy food.

Bhai, this is a cop out weak response at so many levels! Please be honest with yourself and not try to justify corner case arguments for point scoring.

So we are comfortably tossing anything bad in Pakistani society over to the Indian wall and say "this is because of y'all"? Doesn't Pakistan have its own unique culture and society? Are we saying everything bad in Pakistan since 700 AD (Raja Dahir the Hindu king of Sindh) is due to the last Hindu king that ruled our lands in 700 AD? By doing this we are implicitly aiding the Indian trolls who keep saying Pakistan is a non-entity without a unique culture of its own. We are responsible for our own actions. Who cares if Pakistan as a political entity came into being only in 1947, Pakistani cultures existed long before that.

One side of my family is Punjabi+Pashtun, other side is Punjabi+Sindhi. The older uncles and aunties from the Pashtun side would mock and make comments on my grandmother (very sweet and pious lady) from the Sindhi side for her darker skin. This would make me boil with anger but God forbid if I speak up against "elders" in our culture! What made me genuinely sad was when my grandmother was telling me to marry someone with a fair skin lest she be mocked by the family. I do not know if she adopted colorism for a potential new person as a defense for that person not to be mocked or if years of colorism against her made her feel she was inferior after all. Either ways it was a truly sad moment for me.

Oh btw, all of these people are pious muslims and strong believers of Islam. But God help me with their drama king/queen reactions if I confront these people with Islam preaching equality and their actions being contrarian.

To all Pakistanis here - tell me honestly, don't you know first hand or second hand people in our own Pakistani circles who practice rampant colorism? So we will just make some cop out response against Indians while sweeping our own colorism issues under the rug?

 

[Champ_Pal]

My own aunt used to call me kalu. LMAO.

Anyway, these things do not bother me but some people may get upset/offended.

Bangladeshis are very similar to South Indians in terms of skin tone. Colorism exists more in the Northern part of India.
It is also more prevalent among upper caste more than Dalits and Tribals.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Bhai, this is a cop out weak response at so many levels! Please be honest with yourself and not try to justify corner case arguments for point scoring.

So we are comfortably tossing anything bad in Pakistani society over to the Indian wall and say "this is because of y'all"? Doesn't Pakistan have its own unique culture and society? Are we saying everything bad in Pakistan since 700 AD (Raja Dahir the Hindu king of Sindh) is due to the last Hindu king that ruled our lands in 700 AD? By doing this we are implicitly aiding the Indian trolls who keep saying Pakistan is a non-entity without a unique culture of its own. We are responsible for our own actions. Who cares if Pakistan as a political entity came into being only in 1947, Pakistani cultures existed long before that.

One side of my family is Punjabi+Pashtun, other side is Punjabi+Sindhi. The older uncles and aunties from the Pashtun side would mock and make comments on my grandmother (very sweet and pious lady) from the Sindhi side for her darker skin. This would make me boil with anger but God forbid if I speak up against "elders" in our culture! What made me genuinely sad was when my grandmother was telling me to marry someone with a fair skin lest she be mocked by the family. I do not know if she adopted colorism for a potential new person as a defense for that person not to be mocked or if years of colorism against her made her feel she was inferior after all. Either ways it was a truly sad moment for me.

Oh btw, all of these people are pious muslims and strong believers of Islam. But God help me with their drama king/queen reactions if I confront these people with Islam preaching equality and their actions being contrarian.

To all Pakistanis here - tell me honestly, don't you know first hand or second hand people in our own Pakistani circles who practice rampant colorism? So we will just make some cop out response against Indians while sweeping our own colorism issues under the rug?

I don't really believe Pakistan was a viable creation so it is not a cop out at all. This reflects my true position. In my opinion Pakistani culture reflects Indian culture, and you yourself are inadvertently admitting it by giving the example of dark skin racism in your own family, and the society as a whole.

Maybe if I had been born and raised in Pakistan I would have felt more responsible for the caste based nonsense which still runs rampant in Pakistan, but I don't. I just see a confused nation which still pretty much looks like the across the border.

 

[sweep_shot]

Bangladeshis are very similar to South Indians in terms of skin tone. Colorism exists more in the Northern part of India.
It is also more prevalent among upper caste more than Dalits and Tribals.

Another ignorant comment from you.

There are many muhajirs in Bangladesh. My uncle's wife is a muhajir from north India. Athar Ali Khan's ancestors are from Uttar Pradesh. Another uncle's wife's ancestry traces back to Punjab, Pakistan. They are fair-skinned.

There are many fair-skinned people in Bangladesh. Look up Bangladeshi actresses. They are not dark.

Bangladesh is mixed. You can see both fair and dark.

Anyway, I am a dark-skinned fela. I get mistaken for a Jamaican or a Sri Lankan sometimes.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Another ignorant comment from you.

There are many muhajirs in Bangladesh. My uncle's wife is a muhajir from north India. Athar Ali Khan's ancestors are from Uttar Pradesh. Another uncle's wife's ancestry traces back to Punjab, Pakistan. They are fair-skinned.

There are many fair-skinned people in Bangladesh. Look up Bangladeshi actresses. They are not dark.

Bangladesh is mixed. You can see both fair and dark.

Anyway, I am a dark-skinned fela. I get mistaken for a Jamaican or a Sri Lankan sometimes.

This is true. Faria Alam who made the headlines for her relations with Sven Goran Erikson was very fair skinned, I can attest to that personally. Also a Bangladeshi business associate I was dealing with for a couple of years actually looked more Nepalese by appearance. Not just facial features, but very fair skinned.

 

[sweep_shot]

This is true. Faria Alam who made the headlines for her relations with Sven Goran Erikson was very fair skinned, I can attest to that personally. Also a Bangladeshi business associate I was dealing with for a couple of years actually looked more Nepalese by appearance. Not just facial features, but very fair skinned.

Yes.

Modern day Bangladeshis are more mixed. There are many who are mixed or of muhajir backgrounds.

You can find both fair and dark skin from Bangladesh. Anyway, I am one of the darker ones.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Another ignorant comment from you.

There are many muhajirs in Bangladesh. My uncle's wife is a muhajir from north India. Athar Ali Khan's ancestors are from Uttar Pradesh. Another uncle's wife's ancestry traces back to Punjab, Pakistan. They are fair-skinned.

There are many fair-skinned people in Bangladesh. Look up Bangladeshi actresses. They are not dark.

Bangladesh is mixed. You can see both fair and dark.

Anyway, I am a dark-skinned fela. I get mistaken for a Jamaican or a Sri Lankan sometimes.

The average Bangladeshi is no different to South Indians or Srilankans. We can always find some exceptions where someone in South India might look like a Kashmiri.
If you think Uttar Pradesh people are fair skinned, I don't know what to say. Majority are dark brown.

Film actresses are chosen for a reason in Subcontinent. They stand out from the crowd because of their sharp features and fair skin. That does not mean they are the norm.

Bangladeshi crowd




South Indians



Srilankan crowd

 

[rickroll]

I don't really believe Pakistan was a viable creation so it is not a cop out at all. This reflects my true position. In my opinion Pakistani culture reflects Indian culture, and you yourself are inadvertently admitting it by giving the example of dark skin racism in your own family, and the society as a whole.

Maybe if I had been born and raised in Pakistan I would have felt more responsible for the caste based nonsense which still runs rampant in Pakistan, but I don't. I just see a confused nation which still pretty much looks like the across the border.

If this is the stance then the positioning in your post should be along the lines of "It is OUR problem" and not along the lines of "We inherited this from India". If you believe Pakistani culture reflects Indian culture then this problem is also endemic within Pakistani society and the messaging should not be a subtle alluding along the lines of "We got this from India".

 

[rickroll]

Another ignorant comment from you.

There are many muhajirs in Bangladesh. My uncle's wife is a muhajir from north India. Athar Ali Khan's ancestors are from Uttar Pradesh. Another uncle's wife's ancestry traces back to Punjab, Pakistan. They are fair-skinned.

There are many fair-skinned people in Bangladesh. Look up Bangladeshi actresses. They are not dark.

Bangladesh is mixed. You can see both fair and dark.

Anyway, I am a dark-skinned fela. I get mistaken for a Jamaican or a Sri Lankan sometimes.

This seems factually incorrect or some sort of anecdotal/subjective bias. Did you even research before posting your bias or are you posting with usual knee jerk response?

Pretty much every Bangladesh person I have encountered is darker skin tone. I am pasting data below showing 99% of Bangladeshis are darker skinned Bengalis. Are you having a subtle bias that there are more fairer skinned Bangladeshis than reality because you feel bad about majority of your country being darker -- aka colorism influenced subconscious inferiority complex bias?

Athar Ali Khan - One of the 600K Mohajirs (out of 175 Million Bangladeshis).
Bangladeshi actresses -- Actors and Actresses across all of South Asia are fairer skinned and not representative of the population due to colorism. The very point and topic of this thread?

This Wikipedia link shows ~99% of Bangladeshis are Bengalis and not Mohajirs -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangl...Bangladeshis,river valleys of Sylhet-Division.

A cursory Google search about Mohajir (Bihari and UP) muslims among Bangladesh population gives the results below.

 

[sweep_shot]

The average Bangladeshi is no different to South Indians or Srilankans. We can always find some exceptions where someone in South India might look like a Kashmiri.
If you think Uttar Pradesh people are fair skinned, I don't know what to say. Majority are dark brown.

Film actresses are chosen for a reason in Subcontinent. They stand out from the crowd because of their sharp features and fair skin. That does not mean they are the norm.

Bangladeshi crowd
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South Indians
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Srilankan crowd
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Unlike you, I don't need to check Google to know what Bangladeshi look like. I am a Bangladeshi myself. LOL.

I know you are highly ignorant about most things. But, truth is Bangladesh have both fair-skinned and darker ones. Many Bangladeshis are muhajirs/mixed. There are different varieties. Not all are dark.

Here are some fair-skinned Bangladeshis:

 

[finalfantasy7]

I know plenty of bangldeshi who are (lighter skinned) - they look like guy in the blue shirt

 

[rickroll]

I know plenty of bangldeshi who are (lighter skinned) - they look like guy in the blue shirt

Opinions are subjective and are dime a dozen. Facts are objective and indisputable. See my post #68 above.

I see that you seem to be compelled to support a fellow (Bangladeshi muslim) for some weird reason but even from a Pakistani POV, I would rather be unbiased and state facts as opposed to blind support through subjective opinions.

 

[rickroll]

Unlike you, I don't need to check Google to know what Bangladeshi look like. I am a Bangladeshi myself. LOL.

I know you are highly ignorant about most things. But, truth is Bangladesh have both fair-skinned and darker ones. Many Bangladeshis are muhajirs/mixed. There are different varieties. Not all are dark.

Here are some fair-skinned Bangladeshis:

What a senseless post! Is this "Bangladeshi guy" a troll or just plain clueless? I bet the Indians can put selective photos of people that look lighter than Pashtuns, does that mean Indians in general are like that?

These images represent 1% or less of Bangladesh, something I have backed with reference links in my post #68.

 

[finalfantasy7]

Opinions are subjective and are dime a dozen. Facts are objective and indisputable. See my post #68 above.

I see that you seem to be compelled to support a fellow (Bangladeshi muslim) for some weird reason but even from a Pakistani POV, I would rather be unbiased and state facts as opposed to blind support through subjective opinions.

that you dont know what your on about, another indian who cant read nor understand simple english

your post 72 is again wrong,

you dont know bengalis like @sweep_shot does,

#RickrollDoesn'tKnowBengalis

 

[sweep_shot]

I know plenty of bangldeshi who are (lighter skinned) - they look like guy in the blue shirt

Correct.

Bangladesh is mixed. Not all are dark.

There are many muhajirs (they settled from Pakistan and India to Bangladesh). There are also many mixed. I know this one Bangladeshi girl; she is half-Japanese (mom is Japanese). She looks white like the Japanese people.

There are many misinformed people who make complete fools out of themselves I guess.

 

[sweep_shot]

Anyway, Indians and Indian bootlickers are trying to derail the thread. Let's return to topic.

Topic is Indian racism.

 

[rickroll]

that you dont know what your on about, another indian who cant read nor understand simple english

your post 72 is again wrong,

you dont know bengalis like @sweep_shot does,

#RickrollDoesn'tKnowBengalis

So, some random anonymous forum poster has more credence than verified data in Wikipedia? Do you even see how senseless that statement is? Your post makes me wonder if you are the ALT ID for sweep_shot.

FYI - I'm not an Indian (consider it an affront to be called so), I'm a Pakistani American. Not everyone who calls out inaccurate posts is some Indian, please wake up.

 

[finalfantasy7]

So, some random anonymous forum poster has more credence than verified data in Wikipedia? Do you even see how senseless that statement is? Your post makes me wonder if you are the ALT ID for sweep_shot.

FYI - I'm not an Indian (consider it an affront to be called so), I'm a Pakistani American. Not everyone who calls out inaccurate posts is some Indian, please wake up.

Rickroll believes Wikipedia


#RickrollThinksWikipediaIsTheWordOfGod

 

[rickroll]

Rickroll believes Wikipedia


#RickrollThinksWikipediaIsTheWordOfGod

Ask yourself this and answer -- Believing in a random anonymous user called sweep_shot in a forum is more reliable than wikipedia according to you?

And ... you wonder why we wonder if you are some PIND in Bangladesh or maybe you are an Indian troll masquerading this way to bring disrepute to so many of us Pakistanis looking for good quality posts here.

FYI - Putting hash tags under messages is an outdated 2010s style.

 

[rickroll]

To Pakistanis or Indians -- Have you personally seen or experienced colorism? How was it perpetrated and did you do anything to counter that? Sometimes we are not in a position to do so.

 

[Patriot]

All of the trolls got owned. She put on a ton of make up for the wedding and that's about it.

Both are charming with nice smiles. Their facial features are good.

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I refuse to believe that’s the same woman. Both husband and wife are good looking people. Skin colour doesn’t matter as there are good looking people in all races and nations regardless of the colour of their skin. They shouldn’t be upset if online trolls mock them as you will never please everyone.