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[PICTURES] Mohammad Rizwan given out off a no-ball?

Rizwan was looking good, its a poor call from the Ump. Its odd that even after so much development in technology some basic decisions even from the 3rd Umpire’s room are wrong.

I can understand getting an LBW wrong but, checking the no ball on a screen that even a random guy with even badic knowledge of cricket can do and ICC’s 3rd umpire making wrong call on the is inexcusable.
 
Annual eye exam should be a requirement for any umpire, this 3rd umpire surely missed his last one.
 
Wow, this is dreadful, Rizwan was looking the most confident of all the pakistani batsmen and his innings cut short by a really bad decision, if there was no technology involved then you can understand, but the fact it went to 3rd umpire and still such a major blunder its hard to take.

Rizwan was putting the aussies under the pump.
 
In such cases of blunder, how is the 3rd umpire reprimanded? What are the ICC rules for that - can someone throw light please?
 
In non-DRS days these umpires would give 3-4 dodgy decisions against visiting teams.
Umpires have played a big part in poor records of visiting teams in Australia.
 
Just blatant cheating isn't it. Impossible for us to win in Australia as we face unfair umpiring every tour.
 
It was a no ball. But lets face it even if Rizwan did well we were not gonna make a huge score anyways.
 
The batsmen that was lookign the most positive and had scored 6 boundaries in 13 balls before given out should have been allowed to carry on and impose soemthing of a good total to the australians, This could have been rizwans day of reckoning.
 
Looks like people are under the impression that this no ball decision had an impact on the game, or its outcome.

You're too delusional if that's what you think. He would've got out soon anyway. The only thing that could've affected the outcome of this Test was Babar, Haris or Azhar scoring.
 
Hawkeye said:
Looks like people are under the impression that this no ball decision had an impact on the game, or its outcome.

You're too delusional if that's what you think. He would've got out soon anyway. The only thing that could've affected the outcome of this Test was Babar, Haris or Azhar scoring.
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Doesn't matter what the outcome could have been discussion is the decision was wrong and will remain wrong in history books PERIOD.
 
This is just not alright I can understand human error and close calls but this is visible and clear no-ball how can umpires get away with this without any explanation? This need to be thoroughly investigated what was the reason behind this decision I can't just let it go by labeling this as incompetence.
 
No excuse at all for the 3rd umpire.

It's blatant incompetence.
 
Definite no ball there, none of this "margin of error" or "benefit of the doubt". When you have cameras, high definition, zoomed in and they are showing you a clear image, you need to take what you see. Appalling decision and it really set Pakistan back.
 
Caved12 said:
How do you know? As a cricket player, I have been in few situations like that and I was always more careful because I knew I just made a mistake, which I should not repeat. And It is not like Rizwan was new at the crease, he scored 37 and hit 7 boundaries. You never know as it could have gone either way. The only thing we do know is that it was a no ball and Rizwan should not have been given out.
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I like Rizwan more than most here, but there is no doubt in my mind that he would not have played a match-defining innings. He is not that good and the Australian bowlers would have been too good for him. He was living dangerously already.
 
Bigger issue is that who keeps an eye on the 3rd umps decisions? Should there be 2 people in that position - Maker/Checker concept?
 
Hawkeye said:
Looks like people are under the impression that this no ball decision had an impact on the game, or its outcome.

You're too delusional if that's what you think. He would've got out soon anyway. The only thing that could've affected the outcome of this Test was Babar, Haris or Azhar scoring.
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Even if had got out the next ball, that would've been acceptable. But this was an absolute horrific judgement.
 
Omer Baloch said:
Even if had got out the next ball, that would've been acceptable. But this was an absolute horrific judgement.
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Bad decision. Yes. Time to move on, no need to moan like minnows. Happens to everyone.
 
Whether it had any impact on the match is irrelevant. It’s pure incompetence from Michael Gough and it should be a sackable offence. How can an elite umpire not know a basic rule of the game?
 
We were at a point where runs were valuable, so yes Rizwan was real hard done by.
 
Mamoon said:
Yes with a sword made of plastic. Pakistani fans love a good excuse.

Rizwan played well but it was only a matter of time before he would have been dismissed. The umpire made a dumb decision but it didn’t impact the outcome whatsoever.
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This is all true Pakistan would have collapsed anyways and maybe gotten 10 to 20 runs more which doesn’t make a difference in test cricket. But on the other hand it’s funny how you disappeared from the forum when Azhar and Masood made a world opening partnership at the Gabba and as soon as we crumbled you ran back to login maybe u should be here when runs are being made and not only our wickets fall. That will make you sound more logical.
 
That looks a lot closer than people seem to be giving it credit for. I reckon based on the foot sliding a little it was probably a fair delivery in reality but on frames available it should probably have been given a no ball.
 
MenInG said:
Bigger issue is that who keeps an eye on the 3rd umps decisions? Should there be 2 people in that position - Maker/Checker concept?
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No one should. 3rd umpire is there to capture the 1st two umpires mistake with the help of video and technology. If he can't make right call on this decision he should be suspended. I still wonder why can't match official interfere when everyone in cricketing world knows that's a no ball.
 
HitWicket said:
That looks a lot closer than people seem to be giving it credit for. I reckon based on the foot sliding a little it was probably a fair delivery in reality but on frames available it should probably have been given a no ball.
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The image you are seeing in the this thread is the first impact of foot with land and afterwards he slides on further.
 
Awful decision. So much money put into improving decisions and yet this blind 3rd umpire gives this as a legal delivery. It doesn't matter if 'rIzwAn wOuldN't hAvE plAyeD a gOoD iNnIngs' it's the principle that this has been given out despite it being a clear no ball. Even my friends who know nothing about cricket said no part of his heel was behind the line when I showed them pictures.
 
ARK Rafay said:
The image you are seeing in the this thread is the first impact of foot with land and afterwards he slides on further.
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It's the first frame captured after impact but it's unlikely to be the exact moment of the first impact. It's something that's rarely relevant until you get incredibly close decisions like this with millimetres/fractions of a millimetre in it. In the end though you've got to base the decision on the frames available of course.
 
A very ugly decision really it was to be given out which replays clearly showed no part of Cummins shoe behind the line.
 
Hawkeye said:
Looks like people are under the impression that this no ball decision had an impact on the game, or its outcome.

You're too delusional if that's what you think. He would've got out soon anyway. The only thing that could've affected the outcome of this Test was Babar, Haris or Azhar scoring.
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Exactly.

He would have added another 20-30 runs at best. Both Haris and Babar getting out in single digits hurt Pakistan the most.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Umpires make mistakes. Time to move on.
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Not a mistake when you are replaying a situation and have all the time to make a decision and the evidence is staring in your face.

This is not a mistake but a case of pure incompetence. There should be proper accountability for this. In a corporate environment this can lead to getting the employee put on warning or even getting fired.
 
Slim said:
Not a mistake when you are replaying a situation and have all the time to make a decision and the evidence is staring in your face.

This is not a mistake but a case of pure incompetence. There should be proper accountability for this. In a corporate environment this can lead to getting the employee put on warning or even getting fired.
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I do not disagree with you. However, let's not shift all the focus on this incident. Rizwan is no Kohli or Smith that his wrong dismissal will cost Pakistan this match.
 
Hawkeye said:
Looks like people are under the impression that this no ball decision had an impact on the game, or its outcome.

You're too delusional if that's what you think. He would've got out soon anyway. The only thing that could've affected the outcome of this Test was Babar, Haris or Azhar scoring.
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Lame comments as usual. Him staying at the pitch with Shafiq could have changed the dynamic of the whole game.
 
The_Odd_One said:
I do not disagree with you. However, let's not shift all the focus on this incident. Rizwan is no Kohli or Smith that his wrong dismissal will cost Pakistan this match.
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That is not the issue in discussion, is it?

Even if the player was a tail ender, the decision is still terrible and deserves strong punishment.
 
Terrible decision even after the use of all these state of the art technology umpires still manage to make awful calls. These type of calls can be easily made by viewers watching it on TV then why is it so difficult for umpires to make the correct call? I mean it is not even close.

We needed a little bit of luck to go our way as we badly needed, but Aussie seems to even take that away from us.
 
Paka Lahori said:
Terrible decision even after the use of all these state of the art technology umpires still manage to make awful calls. These type of calls can be easily made by viewers watching it on TV then why is it so difficult for umpires to make the correct call? I mean it is not even close.

We needed a little bit of luck to go our way as we badly needed, but Aussie seems to even take that away from us.
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I get how people can be annoyed but I don't get how people can claim it wasn't even close. There may not be a pixel behind the line but there isn't exactly one infront of it either, there's literally a fraction of a millimetre in it.
 
HitWicket said:
I get how people can be annoyed but I don't get how people can claim it wasn't even close. There may not be a pixel behind the line but there isn't exactly one infront of it either, there's literally a fraction of a millimetre in it.
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I mean you can clearly see the line behind the boot when they show the stump cam.....
 
Mamoon said:
I like Rizwan more than most here, but there is no doubt in my mind that he would not have played a match-defining innings. He is not that good and the Australian bowlers would have been too good for him. He was living dangerously already.
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Poora forum aik taraf, iss insaan ki apni wakhri soch! :facepalm:
 
It was a clear no ball and howler from an umpire..despite the technology. Rizwan could have added 50 more and give a fighting total you never know. These things matter
 
Titan24 said:
Rizwan was looking good, its a poor call from the Ump. Its odd that even after so much development in technology some basic decisions even from the 3rd Umpire’s room are wrong.

I can understand getting an LBW wrong but, checking the no ball on a screen that even a random guy with even badic knowledge of cricket can do and ICC’s 3rd umpire making wrong call on the is inexcusable.
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Couldn't agree more.
 
For the first time I think all PPers (Indians, Pakistanis, Bengalis, British, american, German) agreed on something atleast. Good days are near!! �� Even mamoon agreed. That was a bigger shocker to me than Gough’s decision.
 
Yes, there's a unanimous agreement that it was indeed a clear no ball.
 
Mean&Green said:
Well what now than the people that were saying he wouldn’t have made a difference look at what a difference he’s making now
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Yeah and the people saying he will fail were also saying that Kamran or Umar Akmal should be brought back as keeper. Or Sarfaraz should be in the team.
 
Could've been a different game. Ah well. Least Sarfraz isn't coming back into the test side for a while
 
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