[PICTURES] Sarfaraz Ahmed pads a ball and 'keeper tries to run him out?

[MenInG]

Sarfaraz was walking down the track nonchalantly after the ball went away without him offering a shot but Blundell did not think so and tried to run him out - Sarfaraz not happy and and both shared a few words.

TV replays later showed ump signaling a dead ball - would have been interesting if the ball from the throw had hit the stumps as Sarf was not in

 

[MenInG]

Azhar Ali knows this situation too well!

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Worse than Mankad

 

[ArabKnight]

This is not in the spirit of cricket.

 

[Snowflake]

Got the clip for this?

 

[Gilly]

This is not in the spirit of cricket.

Very much the spirit of cricket, walk out of your crease when the ball is live and you are fair game. Players do not decide when the ball is dead and cannot just assume it is. Any fielder should be watching to see if a player is out of their crease and if he has the chance to run the batsman out If the ball is dead then the umpire will not give the batsman not out, very simple.

 

[Snowflake]

Very much the spirit of cricket, walk out of your crease when the ball is live and you are fair game. Players do not decide when the ball is dead and cannot just assume it is. Any fielder should be watching to see if a player is out of their crease and if he has the chance to run the batsman out If the ball is dead then the umpire will not give the batsman not out, very simple.

We got to leave room for common sense and decency in cricket. Players shouldn’t act like robots and let umpires decide all what is right and what is wrong at every opportunity.

 

[Gilly]

We got to leave room for common sense and decency in cricket. Players shouldn’t act like robots and let umpires decide all what is right and what is wrong at every opportunity.

The rule has always been the same, common sense and decency in cricket is when the players accept the umpires decision and follow the rules.

The unwritten rule in cricket is if a batsman is going to leave his crease he would call out "Crease" so all the fielders are aware that he is leaving his crease and not attempting a run. Another unwritten rule is that the batsman will look at the umpire with his bat in the crease so the umpire can see he is in his crease and then the umpire will call dead ball or over and the batsman is free to leave his crease.

There is no unwritten rule where the batsman can decide the ball is dead and wander out of his crease.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Very much the spirit of cricket, walk out of your crease when the ball is live and you are fair game. Players do not decide when the ball is dead and cannot just assume it is. Any fielder should be watching to see if a player is out of their crease and if he has the chance to run the batsman out If the ball is dead then the umpire will not give the batsman not out, very simple.

If was a dead ball. Why is Mankad or Deepti not in the spirit yet suddenly this is?.

Don't keep adapting the rules as it suits the masters

 

[Gilly]

If was a dead ball. Why is Mankad or Deepti not in the spirit yet suddenly this is?.

Don't keep adapting the rules as it suits the masters

If it was a dead ball then the umpire will not give it out, see so simple.

I don't know who the masters are, is it the BCCI?.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

If it was a dead ball then the umpire will not give it out, see so simple.

I don't know who the masters are, is it the BCCI?.

Now they have the financial muscle, maybe. Not as if SENA don't still laud the morals over them

 

[Snowflake]

The rule has always been the same, common sense and decency in cricket is when the players accept the umpires decision and follow the rules.

The unwritten rule in cricket is if a batsman is going to leave his crease he would call out "Crease" so all the fielders are aware that he is leaving his crease and not attempting a run. Another unwritten rule is that the batsman will look at the umpire with his bat in the crease so the umpire can see he is in his crease and then the umpire will call dead ball or over and the batsman is free to leave his crease.

There is no unwritten rule where the batsman can decide the ball is dead and wander out of his crease.

Yeah, you missed the point by a mile there. No one is talking about unwritten rules.

Common sense in a way where you do not need an umpire to make every decision; even the ones that are obvious and can be easily be made by the players themselves.

These aren’t 10 year olds that need umpires to babysit them every second.

 

[Snowflake]

If it was a dead ball then the umpire will not give it out, see so simple.

I don't know who the masters are, is it the BCCI?.

This is exactly the thinking I was referring to. I’ll do idiotic things on the field, and I’ll let the umpire decide if they can fly or not. Thank god most players don’t think like this - we’ll be seeing stoppages every ball!

Pathetic way to play.

 

[Gilly]

Now they have the financial muscle, maybe. Not as if SENA don't still laud the morals over them

"Laud the morals over them", this is a oxymoron, morals are your actions. It is also a strawman argument, you think something then project that onto someone and hate on them for it.

 

[Gilly]

Yeah, you missed the point by a mile there. No one is talking about unwritten rules.

Common sense in a way where you do not need an umpire to make every decision; even the ones that are obvious and can be easily be made by the players themselves.

These aren’t 10 year olds that need umpires to babysit them every second.

That is why you have rules and an umpire, if two players think different things then what?.

 

[Snowflake]

[MENTION=732]Gilly[/MENTION] also thought Wade was not obstructing the field ) … so, doubt we can expect a logical response from him on anything that involves spirit of cricket or common sense.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

"Laud the morals over them", this is a oxymoron, morals are your actions. It is also a strawman argument, you think something then project that onto someone and hate on them for it.

moralize
verb [ I ] disapproving (UK usually moralise)
UK /ˈmɒr.əl.aɪz/ US /ˈmɔːr.əl.aɪz/

to express judgments about what is morally right and wrong:
his parents' self-righteous moralizing
Synonym

Don't be bitter

 

[Snowflake]

That is why you have rules and an umpire, if two players think different things then what?.

Totally fine to think differently. But calling for umpires to decide upon even the most obvious situations, when common sense can just do the work, is in bad taste just ridiculous.

This situation was very obvious and there was no need for an umpire intervention as you are calling for.

 

[Gilly]

Totally fine to think differently. But calling for umpires to decide upon even the most obvious situations, when common sense can just do the work, is in bad taste just ridiculous.

This situation was very obvious and there was no need for an umpire intervention as you are calling for.

Its so simple, if the ball is live do not leave your crease, this is taught in junior cricket.

 

[Gilly]

[MENTION=732]Gilly[/MENTION] also thought Wade was not obstructing the field ) … so, doubt we can expect a logical response from him on anything that involves spirit of cricket or common sense.

Personal insults from the morally superior eh.

 

[Snowflake]

Its so simple, if the ball is live do not leave your crease, this is taught in junior cricket.

Okay. Where did I say otherwise?

 

[Snowflake]

Personal insults from the morally superior eh.

Never claimed any sort of superiority.

 

[Gilly]

moralize
verb [ I ] disapproving (UK usually moralise)
UK /ˈmɒr.əl.aɪz/ US /ˈmɔːr.əl.aɪz/

to express judgments about what is morally right and wrong:
his parents' self-righteous moralizing
Synonym

Don't be bitter

Me bitter, umm it is you who is expressing judgments about what is morally right and wrong.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Me bitter, umm it is you who is expressing judgments about what is morally right and wrong.

Nice spin.

Thanks for proving my point, though

 

[jnaveen1980]

Run Out on a Deliberate Padding raises contradictory opinions

From ICC Web Site

A difference of opinion has emerged between the ICC and the MCC on a particular law relating to the dis-allowance of runs for deliberate padding.

In a scenario, where the striker batsman, who has supposedly padded up deliberately, is run out at the non striker's end while attempting to complete the first run, the ICC ruling has directed for the 'dis-allowance' provisions to come into play and for the 'Not Out' batsman to return to his original crease and for the new batsman to take strike the next ball.

MCC's Clarification

However, the MCC Laws of cricket, of which former Elite Panel Umpire S Ravi is a technical committee member, has issued a clarification that because the run has not been completed, there is no question of dis-allowance and for the deliberate padding provision to be invoked. In such a scenario, the non striker who had crossed while attempting the first run will face the next ball.


The 1980 Code

The Laws of Cricket - 1980 Code states "In case of a deflection by the Striker's person, other than when in the opinion of the Umpire, the striker has attempted to play the ball with his bat, or tried to avoid being hit by the ball, the Umpire shall call and signal 'dead ball' as soon as one run has been completed or when it is clear that a run is not being attempted or the ball has reached the boundary. On the call and signal of 'dead ball', the Batsmen shall return to their original ends and no run shall be allowed.'


BCCI's direction to Umpires

BCCI is currently following the ICC provisions and hence for all matches played in India, the current scenario of striker being run out at the non striker's end will result in the umpire asking the not out batsman to come to his original position (non striker's end) and the new batsman will take strike the next ball.

Also, in this case as per the current ICC (and BCCI) direction, the umpire does not signal dead ball after the run out even though he is invoking provisions of deliberating padding dis-allowance. Even as per the current ICC ruling, the provision of umpire not signalling dead ball after the run out but at the same time invoking the deliberate padding provision is not consistent with the law.

 

[PakPremi]

It was a dead ball. So Sarfraz could stroll out.