[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Mohammad Huraira mankaded by Afghanistan's Noor Ahmad - In the spirit of the game?

[Rana]

Was at that game.

Felt like I was part of a war.

They are at a war against Pakistan. Still better behaved against all other countries. Loved it when Morgan broke the World record of sixes against that sorry excuse of a cricket team

 

[hitthestump]

If the Afghans want to stoop so low to try and win then good luck to them. There is a reason we hardly see it happen.

Also, pretty hilarious how every player around the bat leapt with joy like the bowler had produced some feat of sheer brilliance.

Nope, it's a cowards dismissal, and you STILL lost.

 

[Uet331]

I know he scored for us. That doesn't mean he didn't do an illegal cheat act.

Stop mixing the two things. Amir won many matches for us but him intentionally bowling no balls was wrong.

Afridi eating the ball was wrong and unfair advantage.

A batsman intentionally taking illegal and unfair advantage by not standing where he's supposed to is also wrong and doing an illegal act.

Come on stop calling it a cheat it is not. Don’t understand posters like you who like to bash anything and everything and hype everything. It was an honest mistake and he learned his lesson after getting out like this.
Just move on.......

 

[Bewal Express]

No sympathy for the batsman. Don't do it.

 

[Mobashir]

Certainly a poor act bye the Afghani player.

Unfortunate to do these things to try to win. I will be so ashamed to play for a team doing these kind of things.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

Unethical dismissal but fully legal.

Not in the spirit of game but you can expect this type of thing in a knockout game.

This Dismissal is against spirit of the game, it is same as bowling the underarm (when it was legal). It is only fair if multiple warnings are given.

The way Afghani Crowd behaved towards Pakistanis in England is still fresh in the minds of Pakistanis. Looser cheats

 

[Rana]

Noor Ahmed, hopefully we will see this joker at some point in the international circuit.

 

[Pakpak]

No surprise the team who did this when I read it was Afghans.

 

[moghul]

At under 19 level, this should be condemned even more forcefully so young players and kids watching on TV don;t consider this because its withing the laws of cricket.

I condemn and strongly disagree with Bishop, who kept on saying this on TV that this was within the laws of cricket and was OK.

I think spirit if the game should be kept alive.

Afghanistan team were not only were defeated, they were true losers in every sense.

 

[Dios]

Was there any hostility between the teams / players after the incident? Did they shake hands after the match?

 

[praveen]

If the bowler warned the batsman prior to the incident then fair play. Spirit of game is totally subjective. What about batsman not walking after nicking a ball ? Bowling no ball to deny batsman a century ? Even bowling bouncers at tailenders ? It’s usually the receiving team that cries about it.

 

[Ryw]

I know he scored for us. That doesn't mean he didn't do an illegal cheat act.

Stop mixing the two things. Amir won many matches for us but him intentionally bowling no balls was wrong.

Afridi eating the ball was wrong and unfair advantage.

A batsman intentionally taking illegal and unfair advantage by not standing where he's supposed to is also wrong and doing an illegal act.

Very cool That doesn't mean he didn't do an illegal cheat act GETTING OUT BY FEW INCHES FROM LINE IS CHEATING HOLY SHT NO !!!

 

[Major]

People need to know that there is difference between whats legal and whats ethical.

In the court of law, ethics is NEVER considered!

 

[Mamoon]

At under 19 level, this should be condemned even more forcefully so young players and kids watching on TV don;t consider this because its withing the laws of cricket.

I condemn and strongly disagree with Bishop, who kept on saying this on TV that this was within the laws of cricket and was OK.

I think spirit if the game should be kept alive.

Afghanistan team were not only were defeated, they were true losers in every sense.

I agree with this. It is important to instill ethics among the junior players and make them realize the importance of playing cricket in the right spirit.

However, it has to be the other way around as well. Batsmen should be discouraged from leaving the crease before the ball is bowled, because that is equally against the spirit of the game.

Run-outs are usually down to small margins, and thus it is unacceptable for batsmen to get a head-start of a few inches.

Batsmen should not be allowed to exploit this situation because of the stigma attached to Mankading.

 

[Saj]

I actually feel sorry for the Afghan bowler who had to resort to this.

Pretty poor from him.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

I would accept it as a legal dismissal if the bowler himself had landed his foot inside the line. The fact that the bowler’s foot landed outside the crease while he dismissed the batsmen is an automatic no-ball for me.

 

[minamino]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Can we sort out (remove) this law please <a href="https://twitter.com/ICC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ICC</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MCC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MCC</a>?? <a href="https://t.co/dec60oogif">https://t.co/dec60oogif</a></p>— James Anderson (@jimmy9) <a href="https://twitter.com/jimmy9/status/1223313338874179586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Abdullah719]

Afghanistan captain Zakhil:

"At that time, we realised let's do something different to build pressure on Pakistan."

"To be honest, it was not in the spirit of the game.

"But we wanted to win. It was a very important game for us. The people of Afghanistan wanted us to beat Pakistan"

"But it's within the rules - and out is out. You have to stay within the crease."

"If you want to reduce the pitch length to 16 or 18 yards, then you're creating a problem for us."

 

[last_knight]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Can we sort out (remove) this law please <a href="https://twitter.com/ICC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ICC</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MCC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MCC</a>?? <a href="https://t.co/dec60oogif">https://t.co/dec60oogif</a></p>— James Anderson (@jimmy9) <a href="https://twitter.com/jimmy9/status/1223313338874179586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not applicable to wave off.

What if a batsman is 2-3 yards out of the crease ? There has to be some rule to prevent this.

As I said earlier, some bowlers don't want to do it because of obvious 'spirit' reasons, but then they are at disadvantage.

Ideally it should be 5 runs penalty. And generally that's actually a comparatively more severe penalty in limited overs cricket.

 

[HitWicket]

I would accept it as a legal dismissal if the bowler himself had landed his foot inside the line. The fact that the bowler’s foot landed outside the crease while he dismissed the batsmen is an automatic no-ball for me.

Mankads don't count as a delivery so it cannot be a no ball. Run outs are allowed off no ball anyway as well.

 

[Mamoon]

I think, AFGs were desperate for a wicket and they were ready to stress the law it's last limit - even the WK appealed for a"catch" of Ruhail's bat, GROUND, pad .... It's such an uncommon type of dismissal that PAK boys were not even expecting - that opener kid wasn't attempting any run either, but AFG's didn't break any law for sure.

I am against eliminating "Mankad" rule, because then batsmen will take unfair advantage; and in modern days' sports, there is not much space for fair play - AFGs did something within law, but not in proper spirit.

I think, Mankad rule needs to be revisited - some authority for the Umpires should be there to judge if there is a deliberate ploy of stealing a single or not. They do it in soccer for hand-ball and in Basketball as well many fouls are judgmental (they use replays if required), while in NFL similar act might result in different verdict, depending on Referee.

Your point regarding batsmen backing up to avoid getting caught on their heels is valid, but it does not require modification of rules; it only requires a change in practice.

The batsmen should simply stand a feet behind where they usually do. This would allow them to back up and be in motion without leaving the crease.

Which means that they will not get Mankaded and will not be caught on their heels on either. It is a simple solution that can easily be implemented.

It is not acceptable for the batsmen to be standing outside the crease even if he is only backing up.

Run-outs are usually marginal calls, and this head-start of 2-3 inches can be the difference between getting run-out and surviving to play a match-winning innings.

Mankading does not need modification of rules but rather a change in attitude. If the batsmen learn to appreciate the fact that it is not acceptable to be even an inch outside the crease before the ball is bowled, Mankading will become an acceptable practice and bowlers will not be vilified for following the laws of the game and refusing to give a batsman undue advantage.

 

[minamino]

Thank god Asians didn't invent this game otherwise there would have been some really ridiculous rules and laws.

 

[cricketjoshila]

How can you even compare that with this?

Stokes didn’t intentionally put his bat forward but the Afghan bowler did hit the stumps on purpose

Also Stokes apologised straight after but this guy started to celebrate
Massive difference

Apology? After taking 4 runs and robbing NZ of a WC?

 

[HitWicket]

Apology? After taking 4 runs and robbing NZ of a WC?

What? Can you really not see how an inadvertent deflection off the bat isn't the same as a conscious decision?

 

[Titan24]

Afghanistan's captain "If you want to make runs and rotate the strike, you must respect the opposition, which is why we went ahead. If we were winning, we probably wouldn't have done it."

Exactly my point, so teams are only using it or use it when they are desperate however, there should be a certain standard across the board rather than using this rule to advantage only when situation allows.

 

[shah_1]

Hurraira learned a good lesson

I’m sure he won’t do it again

 

[Saj]

Was this batsman warned previously about backing up too far during his innings?

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Mankads don't count as a delivery so it cannot be a no ball. Run outs are allowed off no ball anyway as well.

So a bowler can go on and on with his follow through and all he has to do is turn back and hit the stumps at the non-striker end? To me it doesn’t make sense.

 

[Space Cat]

Its legal obviously but i hate it unless the batsman is legitimately try steal a yard. These days you see bowlers subvert their delivery stride to catch the batsman out as he walks forward.

Interestingly Mankads are not actually allowed in my local cricket association unless a warning is given.

 

[last_knight]

Mankads don't count as a delivery so it cannot be a no ball. Run outs are allowed off no ball anyway as well.

So, it is not impossible to bowl out a team without bowling a single delivery. That will make an interesting scorecard 0/10 ( 0.0 Overs).

 

[Nado_]

Mankas is legal yes, but is a cowardly and desperate dismissal. So I feel we should be in our rights to criticise but ultimately cannot call the opponent a cheat. Although I would use the word shameless.

 

[MenInG]

Was this batsman warned previously about backing up too far during his innings?

Noor's action was pre-planned in my view - fact is that Huraira wasnt going anywhere and someone noticed it and told the bowler to do - this could explain the delight in the team's reactions when it happened

 

[Shoaibbtt]

it was out,

i believe its also agaisnt the spirit of the game to take run advantage of stepping out of your crease

To be honest it’s something I hate to see whenever it happens but I think players need to accept it for what it is, it’s their fault for coming out of the crease and it’s a schoolboy error.

I reckon Ian Bishop today made a great point, it’s the law and isn’t against the spirit of the game but what is against the spirit of the game is hitting your shoulder against someone or physical contact, that goes against the game and not mankading.

 

[Saj]

Noor's action was pre-planned in my view - fact is that Huraira wasnt going anywhere and someone noticed it and told the bowler to do - this could explain the delight in the team's reactions when it happened

If a batsman has had a warning and he continues to do this, then fair enough. But if he's not had a warning then it's harsh to run someone out this way.

The ruling needs looking at.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

The justification that it's in the rules masks the fact that it's a coward's way to get someone out. Ultimately, it just cheapens the quality of the game.

 

[charlie007]

The laws of the game should never be in violation of fair play. But laws were made first, then fair play came. If the law says you be in the crease until the ball is bowled, it is you as a batsman who's indulging in unfair play, not the bowler. Should the bowler warn the batsmen that I'm trying to bowl an outswinger so don't touch it otherwise you'll get caught out? Laws are there for a reason so follow them.
In fact, if the batsman ran a quick run and was in by a centimeter when the stumps were broken, while having already taken advantage of an unethical early start by a yard, who's playing against the spirit of the game?

 

[Kroll]

Don't act like minnows.

A job very well done by the bowler. This guy was going against the spirit of the game by being outside the crease before the ball had been bowled.

What a loser. Needs to learn how to bat and spirit plus laws of the game.

Excellent work by AFG players. A perfectly valid wicket, within spirit and laws of the game. More bowlers need to do this to sore losers who leave the crease when they aren't supposed to.

It's cheating. Stay within the crease when you're supposed to. Don't take unfair advantage and act like losers, cheats.

Probably should be an umpire thing though, similar to the umpire warning a bowler for running onto the danger zone of the pitch.

The reward of gaining a wicket is too disproportionate to just be running up and taking the bails off IMO. Do agree that the dude should have been more careful and aware of his crease because of this mad mankad rule.

 

[MenInG]

 

[Major]

Some really poor posts here against the Afghanis. I dont understand why you targeting the whole country. The west indies team also did something like this in the last u19 world cup.

Ian Bishop pointed out a really important thing last night. He said, after Hurraira was Mankanded, the new batsmen who came in, didnt try to go out of his crease and stayed in the whole time. While before, Hurraia was staying outside the crease as the ball was to be delivered.

 

[Major]

Probably should be an umpire thing though, similar to the umpire warning a bowler for running onto the danger zone of the pitch.

The reward of gaining a wicket is too disproportionate to just be running up and taking the bails off IMO. Do agree that the dude should have been more careful and aware of his crease because of this mad mankad rule.

Problem is, the rule has to be there. If you remove the rule, the batsmen could run down 4-5 yards as the bowler is about to bowl the ball.

 

[Titan24]

Problem is, the rule has to be there. If you remove the rule, the batsmen could run down 4-5 yards as the bowler is about to bowl the ball.

If umpires can look at the no balls, bowlers or batsmen running on the pitch then I think its not that difficult to warn the batsman, put a run penalty or even give hime out if he does it repeatedly.

 

[Ronaldo7]

The way they were celebrating

 

[MenInG]

A cricketing debate has reignited once again after the latest example of the sport’s most controversial dismissal — the “Mankad” — reared its ugly head once again this time at the Under-19s World Cup in South Africa.

Last year, Indian spinner Ravi Ashwin did the unthinkable during the Indian Premier League.

During the Rajasthan Royals’s season opener against the Kings XI Punjab in Jaipur, Ashwin paused part way through his delivery stride, spun around, flicked off the bails and appealed for the wicket of non-striker Jos Buttler.

The cricket world erupted in anger and disgust. Ashwin had attempted the blasphemous “Mankad”.

Mankading is considered one of the lowest acts in the sport, primarily for going against the “Spirit of Cricket”. It’s an unwritten rule that you just don’t do it.

On Friday, an Afghan youngster saw the debate resurface once again.

In the under-19s quarterfinal, Pakistan were 3/127, only 63 runs away from booking a spot in the semi finals.

Afghan spin bowler Noor Ahmad, desperate for a breakthrough, Mankaded opening batsman Mohammad Huraira for 64.

Ahmad wildly celebrated with his invigorated teammates, securing the wicket during a critical moment in the quarterfinal run chase.

While it didn’t effect the end result of the match with Pakistan booking a semi-final against old rivals India, the tactic divided opinions.

In the must-win match, Afghanistan had clearly resorted to a “win at all costs” mentality.

The excessive celebration did not sit well with many spectators, especially considering the method in which they achieved the dismissal.

Afghanistan captain Farhan Zakhil sheepishly conceded after the match, “To be honest, it was not in the spirit of the game.”

Huraira also accepted he had made a mistake, one he wouldn’t make again.

“I should’ve been in the crease, and I’ll learn from the mistake. I’ll ensure it isn’t repeated again,” he said.

English pace bowler James Anderson called for the controversial law to be “removed” after seeing the footage.

“I think there are enough ways to get a batsman out involving skill, either as a bowler or fielder). I don’t think I’ve played with anyone who feels like this is a legitimate way of getting someone out,” Anderson tweeted.

To perform a Mankad, the bowler removes the bails at the non-striker’s end before the ball is released. If the non-striking batsman is out of his crease, the fielding side has every right to appeal for a wicket.

Indian cricketer Vinoo Mankad attempted the dismissal regularly in his career — so much so, it was soon named after the controversial all rounder.

Mankad copped plenty of criticism at the time, but legendary cricketer Sir Don Bradman defended his actions.

“For the life of me, I can’t understand why they questioned his sportsmanship. The laws of cricket make it quite clear that the non-striker must keep within his ground until the ball has been delivered,” Bradman wrote in his autobiography.

“By backing up too far or too early, the non-striker is very obviously gaining an unfair advantage.”

Despite the negative connotations surrounding Mankading, it is completely legal. When the non-striker leaves his crease early, they are attempting to unfairly reduce the distance needed to complete a run.

It’s spelled out clearly in Article 41.16.1 of the Laws of Cricket.

“If the non-striker is out of his/her ground at any time from the moment the ball comes into play until the instant when the bowler would normally have been expected to release the ball, the non-striker is liable to be run out.”

Although Mankading is heavily disliked among the cricket community, it’s lawful. The real Mankad debate surfaces around whether it’s within the “Spirit of the Game” to not give the batsman a warning before making an appeal.

Ian Bishop defended young Ahmad, suggesting non-striker Huraira was in the wrong.

“A lot of people would look at these young men and disparage their character. To me that is wrong. This is the law,” Bishop said.

“The emphasis of Spirit of Cricket should be for the non-striker to stay in his ground until the release of the ball.”

Cricket has changed a lot since Mankad played his last Test match in 1959. With increasing reliance on TV umpires, slow-motion cameras and DRS technology, every inch matters.

In the 1950s, bowlers were arguably less worried about the non-striker stepping out of his crease a tad earlier than necessary. Today, that extra step could be the difference between a win and a loss, particularly in T20 cricket.

Mankading is necessary more than ever before. Perhaps it’s time for non-strikers to take some responsibility and stay put until the ball is released.

Maybe Vinoo Mankad wasn’t such a bad bloke after all.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/crick...p/news-story/4f95e3015e74d091e1a059d10848f9ee

 

[minamino]

English people are quite clear about this rule. I think the rule should be 3 warnings to the batsmen and then 5 run penalty.

 

[Ronaldo7]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Afghanistan captain Farhan Zakhil after the match "To be honest, it was not in the spirit of the game" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/U19CWC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#U19CWC</a> <a href="https://t.co/NFTjr82rbk">pic.twitter.com/NFTjr82rbk</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1223594465245396992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Where are the people who said that this was not against the spirit of the game?

 

[MenInG]

And it gets worse

 

[Ronaldo7]

Firstly, tell this old man to stop making it sound like a war. It's a cricket game ***.

Secondly, why are there so many Afghan refugees in a "match-fixing" country then?

Thirdly, you still ended up losing

 

[MenInG]

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Not sure if the Pashto is the same as the English version

 

[Pakistan1]

Lol afghanis. Most sub continent teams hate Pakistan Love it. Keep spin bowling

 

[Rana]

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Not sure if the Pashto is the same as the English version

The translator has just confused us more

 

[Rana]

And it gets worse


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Why is he behaving like it is only Pakistani fans who are attacking him or Afghanistan as a nation?

This is the same attitude that the Afghan fans demonstrated against Pakistan in the World Cup when they attacked them without any provocation. The hate stems deep

 

[Rana]

English people are quite clear about this rule. I think the rule should be 3 warnings to the batsmen and then 5 run penalty.

3 warnings are too much. 1 is enough

 

[MenInG]

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Not sure if the Pashto is the same as the English version

Anyone able to translate the pashto?

 

[MenInG]

Ravichandran Ashwin on Saturday came up with a savage comment on England fast-bowler James Anderson's suggestion on the Mankad rule in international cricket. On Friday, Afghanistan's Noor Ahmad mankaded Pakistan's Mohammad Huraira during the Under-19 World Cup quarterfinal. The dismissal led to a debate on Twitter and members of the cricket fraternity expressed their opinion on the controversial mode of dismissal. James Anderson took to Twitter and asked the International Cricket Council (ICC) to "remove" the law but Ravichandran Ashwin then came up with a savage reply that left fans in splits.

"Law removal might need some deliberation!! A Shredder might do the trick for now," Ashwin tweeted along with multiple laughing emojis.

In a similar turn of events, Ashwin had ran out Jos Buttler via Mankad during an Indian Premier League match between Rajasthan Royals and Kings XI Punjab in 2019.

After the incident, veteran England fast-bowler Anderson had put an image of Ashwin through a shredder during a podcast back in April 2019.

A video of England paceman James Anderson putting an image of Ashwin through a shredder went viral on the internet but the Indian off-spinner had said that he was not bothered.

"Today Jimmy Anderson might feel that whatever I did was wrong. Maybe, tomorrow he might end up doing (Mankading) it," he had said.

"Who knows, it is all a question of perception of right and wrong. I don't think in this case it is necessary because it is within the law."

Afghanistan suffered a six-wicket defeat to Pakistan, who will now face India in the semi-final on Tuesday.

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/rav...nkad-rule-debate-2173287?pfrom=home-sshowcase

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stay behind the crease.. I don’t like it either.. but batsmen are taking too much advantage of it. Look in the last 2 T20i’s <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NZvIND?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NZvIND</a> .. batsmen are easily pinching byes by backing up too far. <a href="https://t.co/4DDaAGnZoF">https://t.co/4DDaAGnZoF</a></p>— Dean Jones AM (@ProfDeano) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProfDeano/status/1223437666298945536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2020</a></blockquote>
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[MenInG]

Ian Bishop gives his take on Mankad as a mode of dismissal.


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[Mamoon]

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Anyone able to translate the pashto?

I listened to the Afghan captain 4 times, and I have no clue if he was defending or opposing Mankading, because his response was completely incoherent and beyond comprehension. He was simply blabbering and didn’t know what to say.

The guy who was translating him ended up giving his own opinion, because even he didn’t understand what he was trying to say.

I will translate it word by word but it won’t make any sense at all.

Afghan captain:

“No (when asked if they would have done it if they were in a winning position), but then these are rules.

What I will say is that our coaches tell us in every discipline that if you are fielding or if you are on the ground, every batsman throws a lot while running.

For example, during batting when I leave the crease, they (the opposition probably) give me a lot. Every player should try to not do this because these things happen in the ground.

We did this so they (the opposition probably) should also do this.”

This is literally what he said, and his response is as incomprehensible in Pashto as it is in English.

 

[MenInG]

I listened to the Afghan captain 4 times, and I have no clue if he was defending or opposing Mankading, because his response was completely incoherent and beyond comprehension. He was simply blabbering and didn’t know what to say.

The guy who was translating him ended up giving his own opinion, because even he didn’t understand what he was trying to say.

I will translate it word by word but it won’t make any sense at all.

Afghan captain:


This is literally what he said, and his response is as incomprehensible in Pashto as it is in English.

Thanks for that

Very confusing what he was trying to say.

 

[Kroll]

And it gets worse


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I thought I was about to read an informed and sensible reply, but all we got was a spiteful and venomous riposte.

 

[zamana]

How is this guy in our u19 team when he doesn't even know when he's supposed to leave the crease.

Malik's relative some people are saying.

Drop him for a good number of matches to teach this cheat a lesson. Relatives power doesn't mean you get to cheat.

You obviously did not watch the game. Hurraira was playing a gem of an innings. He appeared technically correct and composed. It was great to see such talent emerge. The run out violated the spirit of the game. Hurraira did not appear to have been deliberately taking an early start and it was unfortunate that he was slightly out of the crease. If you analyse any match, you will identify numerous examples of unintentional movement out of the crease. Let us not condemn the batsman but analyse the runs and the intent behind the rules.

 

[Ronaldo7]

How is this guy in our u19 team when he doesn't even know when he's supposed to leave the crease.

Malik's relative some people are saying.

Drop him for a good number of matches to teach this cheat a lesson. Relatives power doesn't mean you get to cheat.

What about Jos Buttler then?
The guy who got Mankaded twice.

Should he be kicked out of the England team then too?

What a daft post by you.

 

[moghul]

If a cricketer commits a crime, like match fixing, he should be punished, like Amir and Sharjeel.

If he commits an act against the spirit of the game , but still within the rules of cricket, like Mankading, his action should be condemned strongly to teach him a lesson. Team captain too, he could have stopped him.

 

[IMMY69]

Some of the rules/laws make little sense, in fact they make absolutely no cricketing sense whatsoever.

2019 World Cup decided on boundaries scored was a pathetic rule. Cricket is about runs scored and without wickets you can’t score runs so the victor should have been decided by the number of wickets lost... you can score 300 in singles or 300 with many fours and sixes but at the end the score is the same........
This was not cricket.

Mankad
What happens if a the bowler loses or drops the ball before he has bowled it??? It is called a dead ball. This means the action is dead, no runs can be scored and no wickets can be taken. That’s cricket.
So how Can a bowler run out or Mankad a batsmen before the bowler has turned his arm over????

 

[Sherlock]

It's not illegal, but then again it's not ethical either. It's like a tennis player serving under-arm to gain some sort of advantage with his/her opponent on their heels.

Regarding this though, it doesn't seem like the bowler finished his action to be able to do that, but the umpires gave it. Which for me, in itself, is also a problem with mankading.

 

[Sherlock]

Watched it again, yeah, the bowler didn't complete his action so how is that given out?

 

[Donal Cozzie]

I personally have no issue with a mankad if its a clear case of a batsman leaving the crease before the bowler is about to deliver the ball. Even without a warning I think that's fair.

What's different about this and the Joseph one in 2016 that irks me is that there was absolutely no effort here to do that. If the bowler actually delivers the ball normally here the batsman is well inside the crease. Whats happened here is the bowler, in my opinion, is cheating by tricking the batsman into thinking he's bowling, when he never had any intention of doing so, and running him out when he eventually drags his bat out.

In both this and the Joseph case the decision to mankad was entirely premeditated, based out of nothing but a sad lowly attempt to win. The batsman is entirely within his right to expect the ball to be bowled, it isnt, and in the split second between when the ball should've been bowled, and his bat crossing the line, he's run out. Its a disgrace in my opinion, and the mob of contrarian hipster twitter pundits who are bleating on and on as if everyone who doesnt agree with this kind of mankading is an idiot and the answer is so clear cut and obvious absolutely rips me up the wall.

Its just cheating, and the rules need to be altered. If the umpires feel the batsman only leaves his ground due to the bowler essentially tricking him it should be a no ball free hit and a warning akin to a beamer. If the batsman though is clearly trying yo get one over the bowler though then a mankad is absolutely fine.

I want to watch games being won through skill, not trickery and smokes and mirrors. A bowler dashing right to the stumps right as he would otherwise bowl is absolutely cheating and should be rectified. Mankads have a rightful place to stop batsmen gaining ground, They should not be used for desperate unsporting teams or bowlers to pull a fast one.

 

[MenInG]

 

[Hawkeye]

You obviously did not watch the game. Hurraira was playing a gem of an innings. He appeared technically correct and composed. It was great to see such talent emerge. The run out violated the spirit of the game. Hurraira did not appear to have been deliberately taking an early start and it was unfortunate that he was slightly out of the crease. If you analyse any match, you will identify numerous examples of unintentional movement out of the crease. Let us not condemn the batsman but analyse the runs and the intent behind the rules.

Guy is a good talent and will probably play for Pak soon.

Doesn't mean he's allowed to steal extra inches and be outside the crease, even a few inches. Those inches matter when it's a run-out situation.

Absolutely fair to get someone out doing that. But yeah a single warning system should be introduced.

 

[IMMY69]

Watched it again, yeah, the bowler didn't complete his action so how is that given out?

Well that was the point I was making.
If the bowler hasn’t turned his arm then how is the ball in play?
Completely illogical.

 

[Hawkeye]

Watched it again, yeah, the bowler didn't complete his action so how is that given out?

Well that was the point I was making.
If the bowler hasn’t turned his arm then how is the ball in play?
Completely illogical.

Ball comes into play when the bowler starts his run-up.

 

[Hasan123]

If you mankad someone it kind of shows you know your in trouble so have to resort to such cheap actions . Batters should stay in the crease but manking someone is against the spirit of the game. I don't enjoy seeing it.

 

[IMMY69]

Ball comes into play when the bowler starts his run-up.

So then why does the umpire call dead ball if the bowler drops the ball?
Why can’t the batsmen run to it and smash it like he can if the bowler turns his arm but the ball doesn’t reach the batsman or if it’s wayward and lands outside of the wicket???

 

[Hyder]

The ball should have been released when the batsman left the crease
guess what??
he deliberately turned and mankaded him
thats pathetic
if the batsman is actually stealing yards then fair and square but this is pure ****

 

[chacha kashmiri]

The ball should have been released when the batsman left the crease
guess what??
he deliberately turned and mankaded him
thats pathetic
if the batsman is actually stealing yards then fair and square but this is pure ****

It was definitely pre planned
They must have done their research
Their bowling plans and field patterns didn't set the batsmen up but they had something up their sleeves

Didn't affect the result but lance is definitely a sly coach

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Rules are rules.

Can't blame the Afghan bowler here.

 

[pillionrider]

Was going to write something like this but realized it has already been expressed, and probably better.

Its a difficult one.

For some reason Mankad'ing without warning has always been seen as being against the spirit of the game. However, for some reason when a wicket keeper stumps a batsmen with his foot inches off the ground or a spin bowler turns the ball just enough to get a feather of an edge to have the batsmen caught behind, we pile heaps of praise on the respective keeper and spinner.

I feel we have been conditioned to be anti-Mankad'ing but cricket is a game of tiny margins and a couple of millimeters can be the difference between winning and losing. That is what makes this game so beautiful.

Imagine a fielder taking a blinder of a catch on the boundary only then to deliberately drop the ball and give the batsmen a warning instead of claiming his wicket.

Or a stumping opportunity not being availed by a keeper and the keeper choosing to warn the batsmen instead.

It sounds absurd - so why do we expect the bowler to deliberately not run out the non-striker when he is clearly out of his crease?

It's within the rules of the game and that's the end of it. I am all for spirit of cricket and think spirit of cricket is extremely important but I don't think this comes into it.

Now don't get me wrong - you will always get the odd batsmen who will walk even when he is given not-out because he knows he's edged it and the odd bowler who will chose to warn the batsmen before Mankad'ing them - but that's up to those individual players to decide what they want to do. No doubt if they show such sportsmanship they will be praised, however, to go ahead and claim an opportunity the opposition is presenting you with does not make you a poor sportsman in my opinion.

 

[pillionrider]

Just watched the incident finally and Hurraira seemed totally shocked by it. Don't think he'll be sleepy ever again after this.

Enjoyed his shots. A lot of Babar in them. Must be influenced by him. The commentator said, it was his debut game??

 

[Abdullah719]

Just watched the incident finally and Hurraira seemed totally shocked by it. Don't think he'll be sleepy ever again after this.

Enjoyed his shots. A lot of Babar in them. Must be influenced by him. The commentator said, it was his debut game??

Yes, his first game for the U19 side.

 

[MenInG]

Noor gets picked up by BBL side - guess they havent seen what he was upto in the U19 WC