[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Ugly scenes at end of the Under 19 World Cup final between India and Bangladesh

[MenInG]

Sledging may have been Australia’s gift to cricket but the behaviour of players from India and Bangladesh during and after the ICC Under-19 World Cup final on Sunday has left the administrators and some former greats shocked.

The West Indians never had to sledge. “That look, eyebrows raised, hands on hips, and a vicious bouncer past your nose would give the message,” remembered Kapil Dev, who admitted he was “shocked” at the manner in which the Indian and Bangladesh juniors conducted themselves.

“I welcome aggression. Nothing wrong in it. But it has to be controlled aggression. You can’t cross the line of decency in the name of being competitive. Personally, I would say it was unacceptable that youngsters put up such obnoxious display on the cricket field,” he noted.

Mohammad Azharuddin, who led India in 47 Tests, was also critical of the both the teams. “How can you do this? You just keep abusing the opponent right through the game in the name of playing hard. Australians played hard always but without getting personal. We had fast bowlers who did not believe in using cuss words to pump themselves up or upset the batsmen.”

Kapil, one of the greatest the game has known, wants the youngsters to remember that they represent the country and have to set examples. “You all can lip read what they were uttering. I don’t want to take names but it was unpleasant to see. The boys were wasting their energy by indulging in needless sledging.”

Another great, Sunil Gavaskar, has always been critical of the poor behaviour on the field by modern cricketers. He would never fail to question the act of bowler abusing the batsman on getting his wicket. “When you have got the batsman out what is the need of cursing him. Haven’t you won your battle by getting him out,” asked Kapil.

Kapil and Azharuddin want the BCCI and the coaches to act fast. “I would like to see the board to take some strict action to set an example. Cricket is not about abusing the opponent. I am sure there is enough reason for these youngsters to be dealt with firmly,” said Kapil.

Azharuddin hoped the support staff was asked to explain. “I would take action against the errant players but also want to know what role has the support staff played in educating the youngsters. Act before it is too late. The players have to be disciplined.”

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...ledging-cricket-kapil-dev/article30794850.ece

 

[Savak]

Australians do it best, they know when to turn it up and down. Subcontinent teams sadly either are too meak or they go way overboard, nothing in the middle

 

[Savak]

Personally i prefer the WI style staredown, perfect way of telling the opposition that I own you.

 

[ZamanFan]

Bangladesh U 19 actually plays with the right attitude unlike Pakistan that has become a meek team.

The Bangladeshis give it back to the Indians in the crowd and on the field while Pakistani cricketers take offensive abuses and frustrate standing on the field as they know the media, their board won't stand with them.

Pakistani hockey team visited India and thrashed their hockey team in front of their fans. Indian media cried while ignoring the abuses Indian fans hurl at players, and mostly they do psy ops targeting beliefs, their region as well personal stuff.

Bangladesh team decided to return the favor and played with the right attitude against India unlike Pakistan so can't blame them.And it was their attitude that helped them win. Pakistani players are a shameful sight to watch nowadays, because whatever they are shouted at they won't say a thing and get mentally affected.

 

[JaDed]

Bangladesh U 19 actually plays with the right attitude unlike Pakistan that has become a meek team.

The Bangladeshis give it back to the Indians in the crowd and on the field while Pakistani cricketers take offensive abuses and frustrate standing on the field as they know the media, their board won't stand with them.

Pakistani hockey team visited India and thrashed their hockey team in front of their fans. Indian media cried while ignoring the abuses Indian fans hurl at players, and mostly they do psy ops targeting beliefs, their region as well personal stuff.

Bangladesh team decided to return the favor and played with the right attitude against India unlike Pakistan so can't blame them.And it was their attitude that helped them win. Pakistani players are a shameful sight to watch nowadays, because whatever they are shouted at they won't say a thing and get mentally affected.

Return what favor, they are the ones who started it with Saxena irrespective Stepping on flag was stupid and theh should be fined.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

BD havent won much in their history. So winning one they think they are the best.

India hadn't either until about 50 years after gaining Test status, lets not forget.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

According to BD player Shoriful, the Indians celebrated in a similar in-your-face manner after the Asia Cup final.

 

[Rudi hater]

Ganguly was far more classless than Kohli, but he did improve the competitiveness of Indian cricket with his arrogance.

It is good to be arrogant in sports as long as you back it up with performances, which Indian players do most of the time.

Yes arrogant but not disrespectful to someone's country. That behavior from both sides was shambolic and especially disgraceful by those players who showed no disrespect to the flag.

 

[octavian]

Bangladesh U 19 actually plays with the right attitude unlike Pakistan that has become a meek team.

The Bangladeshis give it back to the Indians in the crowd and on the field while Pakistani cricketers take offensive abuses and frustrate standing on the field as they know the media, their board won't stand with them.

Pakistani hockey team visited India and thrashed their hockey team in front of their fans. Indian media cried while ignoring the abuses Indian fans hurl at players, and mostly they do psy ops targeting beliefs, their region as well personal stuff.

Bangladesh team decided to return the favor and played with the right attitude against India unlike Pakistan so can't blame them.And it was their attitude that helped them win. Pakistani players are a shameful sight to watch nowadays, because whatever they are shouted at they won't say a thing and get mentally affected.

Agreed. Pakistani teams these days are shambolic. BD played with the right attitude. Not entirely sure what happened after the match was finished though.

 

[Paka Lahori]

Let's not forget they are kids and they are letting their emotions get the best of them. Flag stepping in no way should be taken lightly and should follow up with some repercussions.

 

[Saj]

More and more young cricketers have chips on their shoulder, ott arrogance, very high opinions of themselves.

That's why so many fail.

 

[imrankhannsu]

Bangladesh U 19 actually plays with the right attitude unlike Pakistan that has become a meek team.

The Bangladeshis give it back to the Indians in the crowd and on the field while Pakistani cricketers take offensive abuses and frustrate standing on the field as they know the media, their board won't stand with them.

Pakistani hockey team visited India and thrashed their hockey team in front of their fans. Indian media cried while ignoring the abuses Indian fans hurl at players, and mostly they do psy ops targeting beliefs, their region as well personal stuff.

Bangladesh team decided to return the favor and played with the right attitude against India unlike Pakistan so can't blame them.And it was their attitude that helped them win. Pakistani players are a shameful sight to watch nowadays, because whatever they are shouted at they won't say a thing and get mentally affected.

Couldnt agree more. When UK and Australia sledge Asian countries their media stay quiet. But when an Asian country gives it back to them the players and media cry foul play. Same thing happens with India and other Asian teams IMO.

I have watched many games in the stadiums and I find there are always some section of the Indian fans after a few beers start chanting vulgar stuff and that too in front of women and young kids

 

[silentkiller187]

Couldnt agree more. When UK and Australia sledge Asian countries their media stay quiet. But when an Asian country gives it back to them the players and media cry foul play. Same thing happens with India and other Asian teams IMO.

I have watched many games in the stadiums and I find there are always some section of the Indian fans after a few beers start chanting vulgar stuff and that too in front of women and young kids

i think the problem is asian players need to be a lot more subtle in the way they approach sledging. From what ive seen, they let the emotions get the better of them and and get too passionate and it shows. Theres a difference between showing fight and getting carried away emotionally and letting your self and your team down.

 

[imrankhannsu]

i think the problem is asian players need to be a lot more subtle in the way they approach sledging. From what ive seen, they let the emotions get the better of them and and get too passionate and it shows. Theres a difference between showing fight and getting carried away emotionally and letting your self and your team down.

When Ganguly was waving his tshirt at Lord's did he let his team down? Although everyone ignored what Flintoff did a few matches ago

When Lillie tried to trip Miandad and then Minadad came back to whack Lillie with the bat did he let his team down?

 

[silentkiller187]

When Ganguly was waving his tshirt at Lord's did he let his team down? Although everyone ignored what Flintoff did a few matches ago

When Lillie tried to trip Miandad and then Minadad came back to whack Lillie with the bat did he let his team down?

You can argue they bought the game into disrepute, so yes i would say they let their team and team mates down.

 

[MMHS]

i think the problem is asian players need to be a lot more subtle in the way they approach sledging. From what ive seen, they let the emotions get the better of them and and get too passionate and it shows. Theres a difference between showing fight and getting carried away emotionally and letting your self and your team down.

Asian (& West Indian) players are the most polite and gentle on the filed. There are few individuals like Kohli, Shakib, Akhter, Javed .. but in general most of them are humble and decent. And, this has nothing to do with the playing caliber - top players of past like Gavaskar, Imran, Kardar, Pataudi ... were utmost gentleman. Sledging doesn't mean you have to call moms & wags and sis ... in play.

The difference is - how the respective act is interpreted by the media. In a cricket field, you won't get uglier players than the Aussies, particularly Ian Chappel's Australia - but their every antics was backed by English/Aussie dominated Cricket media in the name of aggression, passion, commitment to team .... almost like that ugly team deserved a little more space for their cricket supremacy. Later, Lloyd's West Indies showed them you can be world beaters, still gracious in your manners.

Your last line is true, but opposite way - it's the Asian players who has decency in them hence not all of them can bite back the barking dog, often leave the scene as losers. At MCG 1981, trailing by 170+, Gavarskar & Chauhan put 170+ for opening stand, then Gavaskar was given LBW of an inside edge ... he was leaving silently until the bowler Lillee came barking at him - that gentleman wasn't ready to take such sh!t, hence in heat of the moment he called Chauhan and conceded the game (India was still trailing). It's not his fault that, he couldn't match Lillee - 40 years later, I am sure Kohli would have chased Lillee with bat .... and they would have called foul this time. Even then, very next year, Javed did match Lillee - result was, both fined $200 for bringing the game game in dispute, and Lillee was banned for couple of Shield Games!!! Those who know that incident from start to end should realize what a joke of a judgement that was.

These days, before he was caught with his tail in trap, what Warner used to do in cricket field was enough for him to be man-handled by opponents some day. Relatively, English players are better, but still no comparison with Asian blocks, but their media is the top draw hypocrites - these same media was all over PAK when ball tempering was a common practice (just that PAK was exceptionally good at the act ), I didn't see same spirit when Aussies were caught red-handed, at a time when ball-tempering is established as cheating.

The only difference is - every such act by Asian players were/are exposed, criticized by the media (& our own media is equally culprit - they should learn from Aussie/English media about what is shameless backing of own players), while their act is justified. I actually have lots of respect for Kohli in this regard - he should absolutely destroy these ugly Aussies verbally when they come to India, gentlemen's game is for gentleman.

Non Asian (Excluding WIN) cricketers use their inner filth for an undue advantage in the game, which their media try to justify by suggesting that if you are mentally stronger, you should be able to resist such filth. They know that Asian's are proud of their family and close ones - and also know that when a batsman is trying to focus, throwing random slur about their mother, wife, sister won't go missing .... something they can resist easily

Apart from the flag stomping incident, nothing much to write here - two young teams played few hard fought KO games over last few months, the rivalry was there, emotions as well and no one was ready to let other go AND none let their team down - BD boys came for a revenge, while Indian boys made the best of a sub-per total.

 

[MenInG]

Legendary Kapil Dev on Thursday termed the unsavoury incident involving budding Indian and Bangladeshi players after the recent ICC U-19 World Cup as “horrible”, saying cricket is no more a “gentleman’s game”.

The 1983 World Cup-winning India captain urged the BCCI to take strong action against erring cricketers to set an example.

“Who’s saying cricket is a gentleman’s game? It’s not the gentleman’s game, it was!” said Kapil, who also relived the memories of the 1983 World Cup triumph which India won under his leadership.

Two Indians -- Akash Singh and Ravi Bishnoi -- and three Bangladeshi players -- Md Towhid Hridoy, Shamim Hossain and Rakibul Hasan -- were found guilty of breaching the ICC Code of Conduct after a few players from both the sides nearly came to blows after Bangladesh beat India by three wickets to win their maiden U-19 World Cup title.

“What happened between those young people I think it was horrible. The cricket boards should take hard steps today so that tomorrow these type of mistakes do not happen,” Kapil said at an event, referring to the ugly post-match scenes in the U-19 World Cup final held last Sunday at Potchefstroom in South Africa.

“You lost the match, you have no right to go back to the ground and fight with anybody. Come back. You should give more blame to the captain, manager and the people who were sitting outside. Sometimes, if you are an 18-year-old boy, he doesn’t understand. But if you’re a manager, that’s your responsibility to take care of the situation,” he added.

Some of the Bangaladeshi players got carried away with their celebration after their historic win over India in the final.

While their captain Akbar Ali apologised for the “unfortunate incident”, his Indian counterpart Priyam Garg felt the episode should not have happened.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...final-brawl/story-5HFRFQcBpk3QRagt5Re8aK.html

 

[MenInG]

Despite all the positives emerging from the recently-concluded U-19 World Cup in South Africa, where India entered a record seventh final and Bangladesh earned their maiden title, the post-match fracas between the players has left a bad taste in the mouth. The bad blood between both teams, in fact, was visible throughout the match. When they finally won, Bangladesh players were seen hurling verbal expletives at the India teens, some of whom also responded in an unsavoury manner. They almost came to blows, according to reports.

Sachin Tendulkar, commenting on whether young players need to learn about sportsman spirit especially in light of what happened in the U-19 World Cup final, said it should come from within. “One can only make an effort to teach individuals, but then a lot depends on the character of an individual. In a crunch moment, one should be able to control certain things and not forget that the whole world is looking up to you. They are following certain things. So, I think those are the moments where controlled aggression helps. One needs to be aggressive but being vocal and saying foul things doesn’t mean that you are aggressive,” Tendulkar said in an interview.

“Aggression should be in your game, the way you bat or bowl—that aggression which helps the team and not goes against it,” added Tendulkar, who was here to flag off the IDBI Federal Life Insurance New Delhi Marathon.

Following the fracas, five players—Akash Singh and Ravi Bishnoi (from India) and Bangladesh’s Md Towhid Hridoy, Shamim Hossain and Rakibul Hasan—were sanctioned by the ICC. India spinner Bishnoi, who took four wickets in the match, was also charged for a separate incident of provoking the opposition batsman. “Everyone is aggressive. If somebody doesn’t say anything or if somebody doesn’t do anything it doesn’t mean that he is not aggressive. We all want to go out and win. There is a method to do that. You can’t cross the line. Like me the rest of the guys also want to win and those are the things one should keep in mind. Are you trying to be tell me that Roger Federer is not aggressive? That he doesn’t want to win? He wants to win every point But the body language, what he says and the mannerism really matters. That is really setting example,” said Tendulkar.

The batting great, who retired from cricket in 2013, is impressed with the improved fitness level of the current sportspersons, especially the younger lot. He, however, added that fitness should only be seen as something that supplements the existing skill set. “I don’t think fitness has got anything to enhance your skill level. But (if you are fit) whatever you are good at, you will be able to do that longer. I don’t think if somebody is physically fit, he is going to outswing his swing a little more. That you have to bowl and develop,” he said.

“So, I would say if somebody has to learn how to bat, he has to bat, he can’t be in the gym and hope to become better batsman. It can only add to what he is practising at the nets. So, it’s about being more focused on your skill set and fitness will only compliment that.”

Tendulkar believes a lot depends on the guidance and support that a player gets. Recounting from his personal experience, the 46-year-old said he was lucky to have a good support team that helped him maintain sanity in pressure situations. At a time when mental health is being talked about like never before, Tendulkar says every player should have somebody to rely on for emotional stress.

“All athletes go through ups and downs. Everybody has challenging moments. I would say that is when the support team, be it your family or if you have an injury it would be the doctor, physios, masseurs, coaches, friends become crucial. How all these people around can keep you in the space where you can go out and compete. In my case, there were challenging moments but I had a very good support team who kept me in that space so that I could go out and deliver. You are not confused because you know there is a solid team working for you,” Tendulkar said.

In 2019, three Australian cricketers Glenn Maxwell, Will Pucovski and Nic Maddinson took a break from cricket due to mental health issues. “My coaches, my brother, my wife and parents were there for me. On various occasions, I have spoken to them and we have had a proper discussion, where I felt the decision needs to be taken and it was a critical one. I have always looked up to these people for advice,” he said.

Along with mental health, Tendulkar said it was the duty of an individual to listen to his or her body to avoid injuries. Stress fracture, generally caused by overuse of a particular ligament or body part, is a type of injury which has been prevalent among Indian sportspersons, with Jasprit Bumrah and Hardik Pandya being two of the most recent high profile victims.

“I think rehab is very important. Each body is different so the stress levels will be different because of their bowling action, because of their running style, because of the impact of the body while releasing the ball. Someone who is 6 feet 5 inches, the way he lands, compared to someone who is 5 feet 9 inches is going to be different. So, all those things matter. The deeper you get into it, the more you can discover. Every individual needs to understand his or her body. It will always give you signals. If you are sharp enough to understand and pick those signals, it helps in injury prevention when you have the right people around,” said Tendulakr, who himself had to battle with an elbow injury (tennis elbow) for close to two years from 2004-06.

“Also not to forget, when you are competing, you always want to give hundred per cent. I didn’t want to settle at 99 per cent. I always wanted to be 100 per cent on the field. While doing that there are going to be injuries. That’s fine. But as long as I am giving everything, it doesn’t matter.”

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...-cup-fracas/story-FFmu1uww9HrF0TPknq6boK.html

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Apparently Indian Under 19 players started it back in Asia Cup and were in their face, so now after losing they couldn't take it. Kids will be kids, but the flag stepping kid needs to be kicked out for good. Even the panipuri wala kid has better manners than both teams combined.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Apparently Indian Under 19 players started it back in Asia Cup and were in their face, so now after losing they couldn't take it. Kids will be kids, but the flag stepping kid needs to be kicked out for good. Even the panipuri wala kid has better manners than both teams combined.

As they say, one can buy expensive clothes but can never purchase class.

BTW, BCCI already protecting that pathetic clown who stepped on BD's flag? Disgusting, yet not surprising.

Hopefully, Indians will keep on losing finals