Pitch Doctoring: Should it be banned?

[mominsaigol]

I'm fine with sides curating pitches to their liking, but I'm not happy when sides curate pitches to the point that no batsmen can achieve success irrespective of skill.

Its a cheap tactic as the home side will obviously win 90% of the time primarily because their spinners have more experience practising on said pitch.

Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are especially guilty of this. The likes of Sajid, Noman, Ashwin, Jadeja + Bangaldeshi bowlers all have Larwood Bodyline level statistics?

I will be deeply upset if Pakistan curates such pitches for wtc 2027. Show some spine and dominate sides at home and reach the final.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

I'm fine with sides curating pitches to their liking, but I'm not happy when sides curate pitches to the point that no batsmen can achieve success irrespective of skill.

Its a cheap tactic as the home side will obviously win 90% of the time primarily because their spinners have more experience practising on said pitch.

Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are especially guilty of this. The likes of Sajid, Noman, Ashwin, Jadeja + Bangaldeshi bowlers all have Larwood Bodyline level statistics?

I will be deeply upset if Pakistan curates such pitches for wtc 2027. Show some spine and dominate sides at home and reach the final.

Bro i understand your post but look what is happening in sena countries all prepare pitches to their liking pak is surely guilty of this but pak has no other choice or how about pak go to that misbah ul haq route of uae those pitches were good right maybe have uae pitches where spinners come into play from day 3 no need of extreme i agree with that extreme can make toss dependent result you bat last you are done with those extreme pitches as we seen how nz won in india and wi beat pak.

 

[mominsaigol]

Bro i understand your post but look what is happening in sena countries all prepare pitches to their liking pak is surely guilty of this but pak has no other choice or how about pak go to that misbah ul haq route of uae those pitches were good right maybe have uae pitches where spinners come into play from day 3 no need of extreme i agree with that extreme can make toss dependent result you bat last you are done with those extreme pitches as we seen how nz won in india and wi beat pak.

I would be very critical of england as well btw. The only reason im not is to laugh at indian propaganda.

Any other team and I'd be ruling

 

[cricfan432]

Sena does it too, why subcontinent should not do it?

 

[Devadwal]

Sydney test pitch during the BGT series was pathetic Mcg test pitch vs South Africa, most of South African pitches are greenish with uneven bounce. But saar only subcontinent pitch are pathetic . hypocrisy

I already explained this in another thread with fact.

 

[mominsaigol]

Sena does it too, why subcontinent should not do it?

Curating to your advantage =/= pitch doctoring to the point that no one can really play.

We don't watch test cricket to see medicore bowlers like jadeja and Sajid become the 2nd coming of warne and murli getting batters like Steve smith and root out so easily

 

[mominsaigol]

Indians imo are the most responsible for this. They started this trend of doctoring which was then copied by Bangladesh and finally by Pakistan.

Their ego's demanded stat inflation and NZ was their reckoning.

The good thing is Sena despite curating to gain an advantage never doctor pitches.

One must respect Australia, England, NZ and South Africa for playing fair

 

[harshjoshi87]

Indians imo are the most responsible for this. They started this trend of doctoring which was then copied by Bangladesh and finally by Pakistan.

Their ego's demanded stat inflation and NZ was their reckoning.

The good thing is Sena despite curating to gain an advantage never doctor pitches.

One must respect Australia, England, NZ and South Africa for playing fair

India didn't start this. This was started by Australia in 2011-12 season when India toured. They made green wickets & beat India 4-0.

Dhoni & Srini mama returned the favour in 2013 with 4-0 trashing of Australia in India.

South Africa did the same back in 2013-14 series vs India, India returned the favour in 2015 series.

 

[mominsaigol]

India didn't start this. This was started by Australia in 2011-12 season when India toured. They made green wickets & beat India 4-0.

Dhoni & Srini mama returned the favour in 2013 with 4-0 trashing of Australia in India.

South Africa did the same back in 2013-14 series vs India, India returned the favour in 2015 series.

I dont think you know the difference between putch doctoring and putch curation.

Curating a pitch to gove you an advantage =/= doctoring

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

I'm fine with sides curating pitches to their liking, but I'm not happy when sides curate pitches to the point that no batsmen can achieve success irrespective of skill.

Its a cheap tactic as the home side will obviously win 90% of the time primarily because their spinners have more experience practising on said pitch.

Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are especially guilty of this. The likes of Sajid, Noman, Ashwin, Jadeja + Bangaldeshi bowlers all have Larwood Bodyline level statistics?

I will be deeply upset if Pakistan curates such pitches for wtc 2027. Show some spine and dominate sides at home and reach the final.

Deep analysis as usual. Bangladeshi bowlers should not count with due respect @sweep_shot and @Bhaag Viru Bhaag as their skill levels are nowhere close to Sajid, Ashwin, Noman, Jadega.

 

[mominsaigol]

Deep analysis as usual. Bangladeshi bowlers should not count with due respect @sweep_shot and @Bhaag Viru Bhaag as their skill levels are nowhere close to Sajid, Ashwin, Noman, Jadega.

You need to stop trolling as @sweep_shot is my bro.

Anyway, they 100% shpuld count. Look at Steve Smith + Joe root's record in Bangladesh and ask yourself if the pitch wasnt doctored.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

As long as the pitch is not dangerous , everything should be fine.

 

[mominsaigol]

As long as the pitch is not dangerous , everything should be fine.

What constitutes danger for you? (No troll, genuinely asking)

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Indians aren't so bad anymore.

Pakistan took it to the next level in recent series

 

[Nikhil_cric]

What constitutes danger for you? (No troll, genuinely asking)

Uneven bounce, especially on the higher side on pitches that are already lightning fast like Jo'burg, Centurion, Perth

 

[mominsaigol]

Uneven bounce, especially on the higher side on pitches that are already lightning fast like Jo'burg, Centurion, Perth

Isn't Perth natural though? Infact Aus curated a road and it backfired vs India last BGT.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Isn't Perth natural though? Infact Aus curated a road and it backfired vs India last BGT.

They didn't curate a road. It was seaming heavily for the first 2 innings. Just flattened out later.

 

[RidiculousMan]

I'm fine with sides curating pitches to their liking, but I'm not happy when sides curate pitches to the point that no batsmen can achieve success irrespective of skill.

Its a cheap tactic as the home side will obviously win 90% of the time primarily because their spinners have more experience practising on said pitch.

Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are especially guilty of this. The likes of Sajid, Noman, Ashwin, Jadeja + Bangaldeshi bowlers all have Larwood Bodyline level statistics?

I will be deeply upset if Pakistan curates such pitches for wtc 2027. Show some spine and dominate sides at home and reach the final.

There's a demerit point system in place to counter against Bad pitches.

Other than that teams are free to make pitches however they want. Batting, pace or spin friendly.

If the visiting team has the will and skill. They can beat the home team. Like New Zealand whitewashed India in India.

 

[mominsaigol]

There's a demerit point system in place to counter against Bad pitches.

Other than that teams are free to make pitches however they want. Batting, pace or spin friendly.

If the visiting team has the will and skill. They can beat the home team. Like New Zealand whitewashed India in India.

Nz won because India overdid it this time around.

They curated a track virtually no one could bat on but they weren't prepared for NZ outplaying them.

They turned satner into warne and the rest was history. That 45 all out was essentially karma.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Nz won because India overdid it this time around.

They curated a track virtually no one could bat on but they weren't prepared for NZ outplaying them.

They turned satner into warne and the rest was history. That 45 all out was essentially karma.

Abe ghantu

That 45 all out was on a pitch where 400+ was made, also pacers took the wickets there not spinners.

 

[mominsaigol]

Abe ghantu

That 45 all out was on a pitch where 400+ was made, also pacers took the wickets there not spinners.

Just an Indian skill issue bro .

Your team failed on a doctored pitch and you're blaming me lol.

Also keep your insults to yourself, you are now on my ignore list. Do not expect replies from me until you reach my level.

Get 2 POTW's first.

 

[rpant_gabba]

SCG was turned into spinning track in the late 1970's becos Aus couldn't handle the heat from WI pace battery.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Nz won because India overdid it this time around.

They curated a track virtually no one could bat on but they weren't prepared for NZ outplaying them.

They turned satner into warne and the rest was history. That 45 all out was essentially karma.

Which is fair play to New Zealand. That's also the cost of cutaring pitches to you liking. Pakistan also lost their 2nd Test vs West Indies.

I see this absolutely fair and there's no issue I see with pitch curating at all.

 

[mominsaigol]

Which is fair play to New Zealand. That's also the cost of cutaring pitches to you liking. Pakistan also lost their 2nd Test vs West Indies.

I see this absolutely fair and there's no issue I see with pitch curating at all.

Fair enough

 

[mominsaigol]

I am.getting frustrated by the pitch england curated. I dont really care if india wins or loses. This is ridiculous

 

[RahulBose]

Yes, white people always right. Will never understand this psychology of desis, specifically those living abroad.

 

[sweep_shot]

I like pitches which assist both batters and bowlers. Balanced pitches as they say.

 

[mominsaigol]

I like pitches which assist both batters and bowlers. Balanced pitches as they say.

Yeah these pitches(england vs India) are rubbish.

 

[sweep_shot]

Yeah these pitches(england vs India) are rubbish.

Agree.

Too flat currently.

 

[mominsaigol]

Agree.

Too flat currently.

Its also given Indians ego. Rn thread is filled with them.

But they will all vanish when England comes onto bat.

 

[sweep_shot]

You need to stop trolling as @sweep_shot is my bro.

Anyway, they 100% shpuld count. Look at Steve Smith + Joe root's record in Bangladesh and ask yourself if the pitch wasnt doctored.

Bangladeshi pitches are generally doctored. Mirpur particularly.

I don't like doctored pitches. I would love to see sporting pitches.

Doctored pitches don't prepare players for away tours or ICC events.

 

[Mamoon]

Strongly disagree. It creates variety of results. If pitches become neutral, there will be less fluctuations of results.

 

[Snowflake]

There is no measure that can tell us when it is gaining home advantage and when it is doctoring.

personally, I despise this word doctoring. Home side can do whatever they want. Both sides play on the same wicket

 

[mominsaigol]

Please doctor more pitches, am loving it

 

[deltexas]

I'm fine with sides curating pitches to their liking, but I'm not happy when sides curate pitches to the point that no batsmen can achieve success irrespective of skill.

Its a cheap tactic as the home side will obviously win 90% of the time primarily because their spinners have more experience practising on said pitch.

Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are especially guilty of this. The likes of Sajid, Noman, Ashwin, Jadeja + Bangaldeshi bowlers all have Larwood Bodyline level statistics?

I will be deeply upset if Pakistan curates such pitches for wtc 2027. Show some spine and dominate sides at home and reach the final.

There is no pitch doctoring. Mentally weak teams complain about it. It is the same pitch for "both" teams. Never an issue for me. Want test pitches to be unique. Spin bunsens, wicked swing and seam like Eng or NZ, chin music pitches like SA , Perth etc.. Variety is the name of the game. Makes it exciting. Varied conditions. Tests your ability and mental strength. Dont want uniform pitches batting flats everywhere, makes fr boring viewing. The recent Pak Eng series was fun to watch - ball spitting spinning , keeping low etc . Way better than the Pak phatta they used to dish out.. The great Aus test team of the 2000s - Waugh era, Ponting era never complained about SC pitches. They knew - to be a great team , you have to win everywhere, not just in Aus..

 

[mominsaigol]

There is no pitch doctoring. Mentally weak teams complain about it. It is the same pitch for "both" teams. Never an issue for me. Want test pitches to be unique. Spin bunsens, wicked swing and seam like Eng or NZ, chin music pitches like SA , Perth etc.. Variety is the name of the game. Makes it exciting. Varied conditions. Tests your ability and mental strength. Dont want uniform pitches batting flats everywhere, makes fr boring viewing. The recent Pak Eng series was fun to watch - ball spitting spinning , keeping low etc . Way better than the Pak phatta they used to dish out.. The great Aus test team of the 2000s - Waugh era, Ponting era never complained about SC pitches. They knew - to be a great team , you have to win everywhere, not just in Aus..

Pakistan, Bangladesh 100% pitch doctored bro, so I disagree.

India as well but to a lesser extent. Now england is follwing suit

 

[mominsaigol]

@The Bald Eagle

For you bro, before effects wear off.

The lead is almost under 200 but I wouldnt be scared.

India has produced an atg team and are unbeatable, very soon england will be bundled for a lead under 180

 

[The Bald Eagle]

@The Bald Eagle

For you bro, before effects wear off.

The lead is almost under 200 but I wouldnt be scared.

India has produced an atg team and are unbeatable, very soon england will be bundled for a lead under 180

#bleed blue #KP emoji #India the best....after Major Adnan Sami we have General Momin now.

 

[deltexas]

Pakistan, Bangladesh 100% pitch doctored bro, so I disagree.

India as well but to a lesser extent. Now england is follwing suit

And thats fine right ? Bcos its the "same" pitch for "both" teams. Its not like they are playing on different pitches on the same ground. The SENA teams can get in their spinners to utilize the pitches. To be a great team , you have to win everywhere in all conditions.

 

[mominsaigol]

And thats fine right ? Bcos its the "same" pitch for "both" teams. Its not like they are playing on different pitches on the same ground. The SENA teams can get in their spinners to utilize the pitches. To be a great team , you have to win everywhere in all conditions.

I guess so, but its not a great viewing experience.

This eng vs india game has been a snooze festival tbh. Everyone is Bradman.

Even england only feel due to scoreboard pressure with india falling in tue first game due to non existent tail.

Imagine if classic aus and classic sa played on this pitch? Endless and endless draws.

These 2 are just lucky that they are playing with some brainless players.

 

[Nasty Naz]

Home teams should create pitches that are favourable to them and give them home advantage. It's not like Australian and SA are preparing nice friendly pitches for sub-continent batters to bat in.

It's why winning away series is all the more rewarding because you are doing it in the other team's soil, in their conditions and pitches that favour the home team.