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An excellent post which attempts to explain why Sachin Tendulkar, despite being world's top batsman, could not get the desired results as India captain.

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India in 90s was very lopsided ODI team.
Azhar and Jadeja were good batters but extremely inconsistent and prone to long droughts.
Srinath and Kumble were good bowlers but both had just avg records against SL/Pak/Aus on flat tracks which was majority of ODI cricket India played.

Support players like Manjrekar, Kambli, Mongia played several matches but never really repaid investments. Fact that journeyman player like Robin Singh was only one who exceeded his potential and played so many games says a lot of that squad's quality

All in all SRT had an average team and plus hangover of some senior players, transition problems and lack of much pull with regional selectors who were playing their own games made it difficult for him to produce results.

People like to say that force of personality, born leader blah blah but situation, luck and circumstances often determine how good a captain is allowed to become.

Ganguly had many small advantages which helped him establish credibility and gave him control over team.

Firstly there was clear out of old pros and SRT clearly declined captaincy so there was no rival within dressing room or tensions.

Secondly Ganguly himself had by 2000 matured into ODI matchwinner which gave him credibility and took pressure off SRT. Dravid also had become ensconced as a class player in ODI and Test formats by 2000.

Thirdly, Ganguly was lucky to find 4 good decade long talents - Yuvraj, Zaheer and Sehwag within a year who while they took few yrs to become consistent , were contributing much more as support players per match than the 90s broken records.

Fourth, Ganguly had some early luck with good runs in ICC Knockout and NZ home which gave him a good credit line with fans and board in starting period

Fifth, by 2001 Jagmohan Dalmiya also from Kolkata and Ganguly's long time backer (until their fallout in late 2000s) became president of BCCI. This helped Ganguly consolidate backroom power and get strong influence and veto level input in selectorial meetings unlike SRT who kept getting foisted with players he knew nothing about.

Finally Laxman, Harbhajan, Dravid and SRT won 'that' Aussie Series for Ganguly. Despite a personally poor series with bat and some not too sharp declarations (waiting on 5th day Kolkata about half an hr too late), Ganguly basically had an unlimited credit line as captain by its end. Even a poor result like Zimbabwe 1-1 away wasn't scrutinized much in euphoria of that series win and Ganguly train just kept rolling.
 
Insightful points made about the differences between the BCCI support for Tendulkar and Ganguly. Well-deserved potw.
 
Some people are just uncomfortable leaders who like to be left alone while others have the confidence to give instructions to others. No shame in that
 
Great Posts which throws a different light on Sachin's captaincy and challenges the commonly held belief (and a misplaced one ) that Sachin Tendulkar wasn't a good captain.
 
It's a misconception that Ganguly was an agressive captain, he was a very defensive captain as his declaration in that Kolkata test in '01, SCG test in '04 and countless other occasions showed.
 
Only thing is Sachin never looked like a captain. He was always living in his own bubble & seemed moree obsessed with his own personal records than the team. He rarely stood up for hs players or raised hackles with the BCCI over team selections. In fact he was happy to just play ball with the selectors & board on most issues

Ganguly was a real leader. He backed Harbhajan when he was cast aside for disciplinary reasons & Bhaji repaid the faith with that series against Australia. He backed VVS Laxman for middle order role when selectors forced him to open against his wishes. VVS returned faith with that 281 at the Eden

Same with Sehwag . Yuvraj , Zaheer. I wonder how they wud have fared under Sachin's captaincy
 
Only problem with Tendulkar as leader was that he wanted rest of his 10 teammates to prepare and play the game like him which of course wasn't humanely possible which led to India's less than moderate success under him.

Of course, this was a major flaw in his leadership as a leader can't expect rest of his team mates to play like him.
 
Wonder how someone like Kohli (with his immense work ethics and all that but obviously volatile temperament) would've responded under his leadership!
 
Only problem with Tendulkar as leader was that he wanted rest of his 10 teammates to prepare and play the game like him which of course wasn't humanely possible which led to India's less than moderate success under him.

Of course, this was a major flaw in his leadership as a leader can't expect rest of his team mates to play like him.

Javagal Srinath said the same thing in an interview.
 
Great post [MENTION=145947]pratiktc[/MENTION]. However, Ganguly needs to be given credit for some of the decisions like making Sehwag an opener( as he came in at 5-6 and there was a belief that his game is not suited for opening in test cricket) or backing Yuvraj even after inconsistent performance.

Moreover, one great thing that was seen with this team is that they played as a complete unit, there was no ego between seniors or for wanting captaincy and they all made their contributions in some of India's finest win in that decade.
 
Although there's no doubt that Tendulkar was an average tactician, the overriding point about him captaining India without the same support and backing from the BCCI that Ganguly got is very relevant. The culture in the Indian team during the mid 90s was rancid due to match-fixing and corruption. Tendulkar the individual was too weak to stand up to it, but the BCCI did him no favours either.

Ganguly had the advantage of a clean slate and Dalmiya running rings around everyone else.
 
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