PSL 3: Is the roster of international players good enough?

[Leo23]

During Feb/March the schedule for international cricket is pretty much packed which means quite a few players will not be available.

Secondly in order to avoid the mess that took place last year with quetta players opting out on the last minute, Sethi has announced that all the international players who will sign up for PSL 3 will have to play the matches in Pakistan.

Now this will also discourage quite a few international players from participating.

Considering the rosters are yet to be announced,is there a chance that we might see a lot of "not so good" players taking part in the PSL3?

Imo the quality of the league should not be compromised in order to host matches in Pakistan.

The quality of the final this year was embarrassing and if such foreign players are going to be playing again then i would rather have the matches in Dubai and Abu Dhabi rather than Lahore and Karachi.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

I don't see any big name participating in the PSL this year. Maybe some discarded or retired players or just those who are t20 specialists and don't participate for their countries in other formats. Although it's a good chance to pickup fringe players who are on the verge of representing their national teams.

 

[Executioner]

What will PSL do about 2019 season?

 

[UN talkz]

Dan Christian
Adil Rashid
Steven Finn
Mitch McLenghan (NZ)
Ben Cutting
Evin Lewis
Jos Buttler(if not selected for Ashes)
Mason Crane
Kyle Abbott
These guys and other guys who are good enough but not selected for their respective international teams can make the PSL foriegn roster....

 

[Hasan123]

Dan Christian
Adil Rashid
Steven Finn
Mitch McLenghan (NZ)
Ben Cutting
Evin Lewis
Jos Buttler(if not selected for Ashes)
Mason Crane
Kyle Abbott
These guys and other guys who are good enough but not selected for their respective international teams can make the PSL foriegn roster....

Buttler probably won't make the ashes. Sam Billings and Ben Foakes are in contention to be selected as back up WK according to reports in England.

 

[Leo23]

Dan Christian
Adil Rashid
Steven Finn
Mitch McLenghan (NZ)
Ben Cutting
Evin Lewis
Jos Buttler(if not selected for Ashes)
Mason Crane
Kyle Abbott
These guys and other guys who are good enough but not selected for their respective international teams can make the PSL foriegn roster....

but how many of them will be willing to play in pakistan?

 

[cricketerB94]

During Feb/March the schedule for international cricket is pretty much packed which means quite a few players will not be available.

Secondly in order to avoid the mess that took place last year with quetta players opting out on the last minute, Sethi has announced that all the international players who will sign up for PSL 3 will have to play the matches in Pakistan.

Now this will also discourage quite a few international players from participating.

Considering the rosters are yet to be announced,is there a chance that we might see a lot of "not so good" players taking part in the PSL3?

Imo the quality of the league should not be compromised in order to host matches in Pakistan.

The quality of the final this year was embarrassing and if such foreign players are going to be playing again then i would rather have the matches in Dubai and Abu Dhabi rather than Lahore and Karachi.

South Africa and India will be playing LOI series during that period.

England and New Zealand will be playing a LOI series during that period.

WI, Zim and Afg will be busy with their qualification for WC 2019.

Australia will be touring South Africa around that time too.

Sri Lanka and Bangladesh will also be playing around that time.

Looks like we will have second tier players in PSL this time around.

 

[HitWicket]

Dan Christian
Adil Rashid
Steven Finn
Mitch McLenghan (NZ)
Ben Cutting
Evin Lewis
Jos Buttler(if not selected for Ashes)
Mason Crane
Kyle Abbott
These guys and other guys who are good enough but not selected for their respective international teams can make the PSL foriegn roster....

Won't clash with the Ashes, it'll be the Aus-NZ-Eng t20 tri series.

 

[j_kazmi]

What will PSL do about 2019 season?

What's up with the 2019 season? The World Cup is in June so we're good I think.

 

[UN talkz]

but how many of them will be willing to play in pakistan?

If one off T20 against Srilanka and T20 series against Windies goes off safely and successfully... then all of them will be willing to come... only a few foriegn players (very few indeed) won't be willing to come.

 

[Gubol123]

South Africa and India will be playing LOI series during that period.

England and New Zealand will be playing a LOI series during that period.

WI, Zim and Afg will be busy with their qualification for WC 2019.

Australia will be touring South Africa around that time too.

Sri Lanka and Bangladesh will also be playing around that time.

Looks like we will have second tier players in PSL this time around.

PSL anyway had mostly either second tire players or Mercenaries.. so won't make much difference. It might lose some more players if PSL management team insists on playing most of the matches in Pakistan. But according to be irrespective of the response from Overseas players, PSL should be played in Pakistan. i think the situation has improved over there and it is high time most of the matches are played in home grounds..

 

[bujhee kom]

A few games in Lahore and Karachi are logical moves.

 

[Gubol123]

A few games in Lahore and Karachi are logical moves.

only few games in Lahore and Karachi wont be fair to other franchise owners.. PCB should arrange to play one home game for each team and then playoffs and final in Pakistan. that would mean around 8 games in Pakistan which is a fair number and fairer to all teams

 

[bujhee kom]

only few games in Lahore and Karachi wont be fair to other franchise owners.. PCB should arrange to play one home game for each team and then playoffs and final in Pakistan. that would mean around 8 games in Pakistan which is a fair number and fairer to all teams

No one is going to play in Quetts or Peshwar.

 

[Gubol123]

No one is going to play in Quetts or Peshwar.

I know, but playing only in Lahore and Karachi is a really bad for other owners.. they need to subscribe to bigger picture

 

[ExpressPacer]

PSL didn't have big names to begin with. Twenty20 mercenaries, retired legends or unheard of youngsters. But that doesn't matter. The PSL will continue to grow and become an even better, more entertaining and bigger league because unlike the IPL or BPL, it promises a lot quality local talent.

Within 2 two tournaments alone, we've seen world beaters like Fakhar Zaman, Sharjeel Khan, Hasan Ali, Shadab Khan and Rumman Raees emerge to become permanent spot-holders in the team.

 

[Leo23]

I know, but playing only in Lahore and Karachi is a really bad for other owners.. they need to subscribe to bigger picture

they cannot do anything about it

the only way quetta and peshawar will play matches at home is if psl signs foreign players from afghanistan,kenya and namibia

quality and credibility of the psl cannot be destroyed for the satisfaction of the owners of peshawar and quetta

 

[UN talkz]

Won't clash with the Ashes, it'll be the Aus-NZ-Eng t20 tri series.

Ohh didn't check it thought it was ashes time... that means Adil Rashid will also miss from my list....
I think broad would be good as well... also plays in BBL and is a decent T20 bowler.

Also guys like Michel Swepson, Chris green shud be there... Rusell is also expected to be part of PSL3.
Recent retires like Ronchi shud be there as well... he is a good quality T20 player...

Two players i would like to see there would be Samit Patel and Rahkeem Cornwall... both are good T20 players and Cornwall is a good T20 product.

Chris Wood is another good bowler.... There are lots of players who dont make it to their international team (as u canjust select 16 in a squad) but are great quality players... The franchises and the PSL body needs to reach to these players... It was great to see Lahore pick Chris Green in their squad although he didn’t play even a single game but atleast LQ guys knew about it....

 

[Leo23]

PSL didn't have big names to begin with. Twenty20 mercenaries, retired legends or unheard of youngsters. But that doesn't matter. The PSL will continue to grow and become an even better, more entertaining and bigger league because unlike the IPL or BPL, it promises a lot quality local talent.

Within 2 two tournaments alone, we've seen world beaters like Fakhar Zaman, Sharjeel Khan, Hasan Ali, Shadab Khan and Rumman Raees emerge to become permanent spot-holders in the team.

but high quality international players had an influence on these players

for example fakhar zaman has given mccullum a lot of credit for his development

psl cannot survive without high quality foreign players. if they stop playing fans will lose interest in a few years

the likes of pietersen,gayle,mccullum,sangakkara,watson,pollard,narine etc have played a huge role in the success of the psl and it had little to do with on field performances. gayle has been a huge flop on the pitch but his presence is a big boost.

psl needs these players.

 

[ExpressPacer]

but high quality international players had an influence on these players

for example fakhar zaman has given mccullum a lot of credit for his development

psl cannot survive without high quality foreign players. if they stop playing fans will lose interest in a few years

the likes of pietersen,gayle,mccullum,sangakkara,watson,pollard,narine etc have played a huge role in the success of the psl and it had little to do with on field performances. gayle has been a huge flop on the pitch but his presence is a big boost.

psl needs these players.

Of course, but you're failing to see my point here. I never said that foreign players not being there is good, I merely said that if you can't have current stars like Root, Smith, Amla, Kohli, AB and the rest, it doesn't really make much of a difference because the local talent makes up for it. The retired legends, T20I'S mercenaries and unheard of youngies will always be there.

However, I think otherwise. PSL is a brand that promises high quality of cricket and consistency and I think it can do well without foreign stars. It doesn't need them. Sure, they can make games more interesting but crowds will come in regardless.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lots of interest in Evin Lewis from PSL teams. Average of 36 and a strike rate of 154.96 in T20Is <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HBLPSL?src=hash">#HBLPSL</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/912357406390267909">September 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Moeen Ali is very keen to play in the Pakistan Super League but England's tour of New Zealand is likely to be at same time as PSL <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/912369802840338432">September 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Leo23]

Of course, but you're failing to see my point here. I never said that foreign players not being there is good, I merely said that if you can't have current stars like Root, Smith, Amla, Kohli, AB and the rest, it doesn't really make much of a difference because the local talent makes up for it. The retired legends, T20I'S mercenaries and unheard of youngies will always be there.

However, I think otherwise. PSL is a brand that promises high quality of cricket and consistency and I think it can do well without foreign stars. It doesn't need them. Sure, they can make games more interesting but crowds will come in regardless.

that may not be the case this time since we are going to play multiple matches in pakistan

 

[ExpressPacer]

that may not be the case this time since we are going to play multiple matches in pakistan

I disagree. Retired Legends realise that they only have a couple of years to make the merry and with presidential level security being provided, I'm expecting people like Mac, Gayle, KP, Abbott and other's to make the journey.

 

[Kashmiri_Pak_fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Moeen Ali is very keen to play in the Pakistan Super League but England's tour of New Zealand is likely to be at same time as PSL <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/912369802840338432">September 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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will the all foriegn players of last year be availible for PSL 2018

 

[Arham_PakFan]

will the all foriegn players of last year be availible for PSL 2018

I think those that don’t have international commitments will feature.

 

[saeed5646]

During Feb/March the schedule for international cricket is pretty much packed which means quite a few players will not be available.

Secondly in order to avoid the mess that took place last year with quetta players opting out on the last minute, Sethi has announced that all the international players who will sign up for PSL 3 will have to play the matches in Pakistan.

Now this will also discourage quite a few international players from participating.

Considering the rosters are yet to be announced,is there a chance that we might see a lot of "not so good" players taking part in the PSL3?

Imo the quality of the league should not be compromised in order to host matches in Pakistan.

The quality of the final this year was embarrassing and if such foreign players are going to be playing again then i would rather have the matches in Dubai and Abu Dhabi rather than Lahore and Karachi.

dear sir

are you satisfy with new signing ?

 

[ElIdolo]

PSL should select Nepal players for PSL

PSL teams should select Nepalese players for future seasons because it would not have been possible in current season because they have WCL2 coming up and possibly WCQ too but it should be a blueprint for the sides because there are many Nepalese in UAE who are looking forward to see their players and it could also increase the revenue through TV views and also gate money.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Overall the roster does not seem that good because of the international schedule.Hope it’s better next time around.

 

[Hedz]

The roster is good imo
Just we have the small issue of players being available for a few games at a time due to international commitments
5 players have left, which is sad to see, but all have their reasons which we have to respect

I think the benefit of this is that there will be more international players on show, although at varying levels of quality

 

[OmaIR1]

Quality of cricketers will most definitely be lower.

I remember reading how Mitchell Johnson was defending his decision to not be part of PSL 3 (citing family) but I do see his name in IPL's auction. Money talks, and I don't know if PSL is lucrative enough. Anybody care to shine some light on this?

 

[MMHS]

Unless PCB changes timing of PSL from FEB-MAR to between AUG-OCT period, gradually the foreigner's quality will go further down. None of the top players will risk playing in PSL 1 month before IPL, and once ECB starts their League, possibly between June-July, it'll become tougher. Big Bash doesn't pick too many foreigners, while SAF league failed to start, therefore there is this small window still left; otherwise the amount PSL pays, it won't buyout players even from BPL.

However, best option still could be scheduling PSL exactly at the same time of IPL - this has several benefits -

1. No PAK players are playing IPL, so all the PAK players will be there - otherwise, Faisal Bank ....
2. Hardly any International schedule - which keeps every International free. This time, PSL is losing most not for IPL, rather for International schedule - that issue can be taken care of by IPL itself.
3. Barring injury, 8 X 8 = 64 players will be unavailable for IPL, and the Indian players. In any case, most of IPL stars won't play PSL just before IPL, not much loss.
4. Once boards start to limit participation in number of PLs & SLs (Of their players), PSL won't get too many stars in any case. In terms of monitory benefit, it's way behind the packing and once ECB starts their league, PSL will be 5th or 6th in that order. Don't think too many players would opt for PSL at lower payment, for the love of it - money is the sweetest thing and this point was well discussed last SEP-OCT, when Global T20 & BPL (& National T20 ) were cutting paths.
5. Separate broadcasters, therefore not much risk of losing broadcasting money.
6. There will be few quite good cricketers, who won't risk playing PSL just before IPL, in the hope of a IPL contract, but if PSL draft is done few days after IPL draft, I am sure that pool will be much better than this with IPL rejects and without International schedule.
7. PAK viewers will have their own time - most of them had to watch IPL, even without their players, because Cricket world is almost shut that time. If PSL runs simultaneously with IPL, they will have their own tournament (& Bangladesh, SRL, AFG as well, because most of their players will be in PSL, rather than IPL) and it's quite a significant market, if PCB can sell it - endorsement money shouldn't suffer, in fact should go higher.

Tactically, starting PSL, one week after IPL and may be last 4 games, just before/after week of IPL last 4 is the best solution for PCB. At most, 10-12 players might be missing for IPL as of now (players who plays both League, but if arranged simultaneously, they'll go to IPL) - in couple of years time, it'll come down to ZERO in any case at this rate.

 

[ElIdolo]

Actually having PSL during IPL could be a great idea even though they won't have big TV numbers but still, they could get players who miss out on IPL.

 

[DRsohail]

Unless PCB changes timing of PSL from FEB-MAR to between AUG-OCT period, gradually the foreigner's quality will go further down. None of the top players will risk playing in PSL 1 month before IPL, and once ECB starts their League, possibly between June-July, it'll become tougher. Big Bash doesn't pick too many foreigners, while SAF league failed to start, therefore there is this small window still left; otherwise the amount PSL pays, it won't buyout players even from BPL.

However, best option still could be scheduling PSL exactly at the same time of IPL - this has several benefits -

1. No PAK players are playing IPL, so all the PAK players will be there - otherwise, Faisal Bank ....
2. Hardly any International schedule - which keeps every International free. This time, PSL is losing most not for IPL, rather for International schedule - that issue can be taken care of by IPL itself.
3. Barring injury, 8 X 8 = 64 players will be unavailable for IPL, and the Indian players. In any case, most of IPL stars won't play PSL just before IPL, not much loss.
4. Once boards start to limit participation in number of PLs & SLs (Of their players), PSL won't get too many stars in any case. In terms of monitory benefit, it's way behind the packing and once ECB starts their league, PSL will be 5th or 6th in that order. Don't think too many players would opt for PSL at lower payment, for the love of it - money is the sweetest thing and this point was well discussed last SEP-OCT, when Global T20 & BPL (& National T20 ) were cutting paths.
5. Separate broadcasters, therefore not much risk of losing broadcasting money.
6. There will be few quite good cricketers, who won't risk playing PSL just before IPL, in the hope of a IPL contract, but if PSL draft is done few days after IPL draft, I am sure that pool will be much better than this with IPL rejects and without International schedule.
7. PAK viewers will have their own time - most of them had to watch IPL, even without their players, because Cricket world is almost shut that time. If PSL runs simultaneously with IPL, they will have their own tournament (& Bangladesh, SRL, AFG as well, because most of their players will be in PSL, rather than IPL) and it's quite a significant market, if PCB can sell it - endorsement money shouldn't suffer, in fact should go higher.

Tactically, starting PSL, one week after IPL and may be last 4 games, just before/after week of IPL last 4 is the best solution for PCB. At most, 10-12 players might be missing for IPL as of now (players who plays both League, but if arranged simultaneously, they'll go to IPL) - in couple of years time, it'll come down to ZERO in any case at this rate.

clashing with IPL schedule will be not a good taste for PCB>

 

[ElIdolo]

Why the hell they are starting the tournament so late?

 

[Hedz]

Unless PCB changes timing of PSL from FEB-MAR to between AUG-OCT period, gradually the foreigner's quality will go further down. None of the top players will risk playing in PSL 1 month before IPL, and once ECB starts their League, possibly between June-July, it'll become tougher. Big Bash doesn't pick too many foreigners, while SAF league failed to start, therefore there is this small window still left; otherwise the amount PSL pays, it won't buyout players even from BPL.

However, best option still could be scheduling PSL exactly at the same time of IPL - this has several benefits -

1. No PAK players are playing IPL, so all the PAK players will be there - otherwise, Faisal Bank ....
2. Hardly any International schedule - which keeps every International free. This time, PSL is losing most not for IPL, rather for International schedule - that issue can be taken care of by IPL itself.
3. Barring injury, 8 X 8 = 64 players will be unavailable for IPL, and the Indian players. In any case, most of IPL stars won't play PSL just before IPL, not much loss.
4. Once boards start to limit participation in number of PLs & SLs (Of their players), PSL won't get too many stars in any case. In terms of monitory benefit, it's way behind the packing and once ECB starts their league, PSL will be 5th or 6th in that order. Don't think too many players would opt for PSL at lower payment, for the love of it - money is the sweetest thing and this point was well discussed last SEP-OCT, when Global T20 & BPL (& National T20 ) were cutting paths.
5. Separate broadcasters, therefore not much risk of losing broadcasting money.
6. There will be few quite good cricketers, who won't risk playing PSL just before IPL, in the hope of a IPL contract, but if PSL draft is done few days after IPL draft, I am sure that pool will be much better than this with IPL rejects and without International schedule.
7. PAK viewers will have their own time - most of them had to watch IPL, even without their players, because Cricket world is almost shut that time. If PSL runs simultaneously with IPL, they will have their own tournament (& Bangladesh, SRL, AFG as well, because most of their players will be in PSL, rather than IPL) and it's quite a significant market, if PCB can sell it - endorsement money shouldn't suffer, in fact should go higher.

Tactically, starting PSL, one week after IPL and may be last 4 games, just before/after week of IPL last 4 is the best solution for PCB. At most, 10-12 players might be missing for IPL as of now (players who plays both League, but if arranged simultaneously, they'll go to IPL) - in couple of years time, it'll come down to ZERO in any case at this rate.

That looks like a recipe for chaos
PSL has done well so far
Cannot move to August October cos CPL is looking to move to a similar window
This window is doing fine right about now, player availability will always be an issue regardless of where you place it
If the PSL tries to run side by side with the IPL it will genuinely crumble, no league can do that, let alone what is basically a startup (just 3 years down the line) IPL way too powerful in that sense

It’s fine where it is and we have a good quality of international players.

 

[UN talkz]

Why the hell they are starting the tournament so late?

BBL ends on 4th Feb and many BBL guys are also playing in PSL, they need to keep some break bw BBL end and PSL start.
They will have to ultimately start this League during the end of Feb as BBL is expanding and will end during mid-Feb in coming years

 

[ManFan]

Mitch opted out of the PSL for personal reasons but is ready for the IPL.

 

[barah_admi]

The quality of international players is fine and in reality, that isn't what sells the PSL. The quality of cricket and unearthing gems (Zaman ,Nawaz, Shadab, Raees to name a few) is key. PSL rating have been phenomenal in Asia, and famously, the PSL final had a larger international viewership during season one, than the Pak/India match that year.

I'd much rather have an exciting league with a battle between bat and ball than the rubbish we get in the IPL.

Anyway, the usual t20 suspects are there, missing a handful of names.

 

[ElIdolo]

The quality of international players is fine and in reality, that isn't what sells the PSL. The quality of cricket and unearthing gems (Zaman ,Nawaz, Shadab, Raees to name a few) is key. PSL rating have been phenomenal in Asia, and famously, the PSL final had a larger international viewership during season one, than the Pak/India match that year.

I'd much rather have an exciting league with a battle between bat and ball than the rubbish we get in the IPL.

Anyway, the usual t20 suspects are there, missing a handful of names.

IPL matches are entertaining albeit suspicious but so is PSL. I remember in one match Quetta couldn't chase 8 runs in 2 overs. Quality of international players do matter. They have to sell the product overseas as well not just Pakistan.

 

[barah_admi]

IPL matches are entertaining albeit suspicious but so is PSL. I remember in one match Quetta couldn't chase 8 runs in 2 overs. Quality of international players do matter. They have to sell the product overseas as well not just Pakistan.

The PSL has done well enough with TV ratings and sponsorship, so the number and quality of foreign players they have is fine.

 

[DeadBall]

Well it speaks volumes when many people are advocating for the inclusion of Nepalese players. I know IPL also got one but it was more of a publicity stunt rather than anything else. However I think we have enough quality in our local players to have a good tournament.

 

[JattMaula]

Don't think PSL really needs foreign talent to prosper.

Pakistan is No.1 T20 team. They easily produce players like Hasan Ali and Shadab from PSL. Why would you give some prospective young stars spot to a mediocre foreigner.

 

[waleed88]

Its getting worse every season. It was supposed to get better.

On top of that the low bounce dull UAE pitches with spinners as the main weapon.

We gotta stop playing in Sharjah, Dubai, Abu Dhabi.

Its ruining our cricketing team, the playing XI for Pakistan

 

[Madplayer]

Actually having PSL during IPL could be a great idea even though they won't have big TV numbers but still, they could get players who miss out on IPL.

This is the way it should be.

PSL should happen when IPL happens. Same time. Thats the only way PSL will get better international players. Because right now the quality of intl. players is mediocre. Lets be honest about it here.

 

[Titan24]

I dont know whats the fuss about.

Roaster of foreign players in PSL is much better then some other leagues. Its much better then BBL overseas roaster as well as Natwest and CPL.

If anybody thinks that what I am stating is incorrect kindly prove otherwise.

 

[ElIdolo]

I dont know whats the fuss about.

Roaster of foreign players in PSL is much better then some other leagues. Its much better then BBL overseas roaster as well as Natwest and CPL.

If anybody thinks that what I am stating is incorrect kindly prove otherwise.

BBL and Natwest are not franchise leagues. CPL has got much better international roster. In 2016, They had SA stars like AB, Amla, Faf and also Guptill. This year it had stars like Munro, Williamson, Watson, Rashid, Morris, Morgan and many Pakistani stars.

 

[Titan24]

BBL and Natwest are not franchise leagues. CPL has got much better international roster. In 2016, They had SA stars like AB, Amla, Faf and also Guptill. This year it had stars like Munro, Williamson, Watson, Rashid, Morris, Morgan and many Pakistani stars.

I wasn’t comparing franchise leagues only, I was comparing all kinda of leagues.

CPL in 2017 which bigger stars played? We are not talking about 2016 here.Pakistani stars are obviously playing in PSL.

 

[Titan24]

BBL and Natwest are not franchise leagues. CPL has got much better international roster. In 2016, They had SA stars like AB, Amla, Faf and also Guptill. This year it had stars like Munro, Williamson, Watson, Rashid, Morris, Morgan and many Pakistani stars.

That was only becz they were available at that time. Duminy, Hastings, Ronchi, Rashid Khan, KP etc along with Morgan, Watson are playing. This is just to name a few. How are these names less than any.

 

[ElIdolo]

That was only becz they were available at that time. Duminy, Hastings, Ronchi, Rashid Khan, KP etc along with Morgan, Watson are playing. This is just to name a few. How are these names less than any.

Ronchi is retired. Duminy is a mediocre player so is Hastings. Rashid is not playing because Afghanistan have a series against Zimbabwe and then WCQ. Morgan might miss out too.

 

[MMHS]

That looks like a recipe for chaos
PSL has done well so far
Cannot move to August October cos CPL is looking to move to a similar window
This window is doing fine right about now, player availability will always be an issue regardless of where you place it
If the PSL tries to run side by side with the IPL it will genuinely crumble, no league can do that, let alone what is basically a startup (just 3 years down the line) IPL way too powerful in that sense

It’s fine where it is and we have a good quality of international players.

IPL isn't PSL's rival - not even remotely close. In fact, CPL, BPL, EPL, BBL isn't either, neither will be SAF League when it starts (you can check payment figures), when ECB starts their League, few PAK players that'll be called there, won't bother for PCB's central contract - you can mark it. PSL's biggest rival is International schedule, which PCB can't stop - next best thing is to do business when International cricket is off; IPL is doing that for PCB. Broadcasting money isn't any issue - in fact, it'll grow - instead of 2 BD players in IPL bench, I'll watch 7/8 other BD players playing in PSL. Besides, someone mentioned that PSL was bigger hit (tv audience) than IND-PAK clash - in that case, IPL isn't even an issue.

I watched BD-Scotland more passionately than IND-PAK match ......... 23 crore Pakistani should do so as well for PSL over IPL - that's enough market itself. You should have noticed that for 8/9 months almost at same time every Saturday & Sunday EPL, La Liga, Seria A, Bundes Liga, Portuguese League 1, Turkish League, Eredivise (Dutch League) & League 1 (France) games are played - and they all are making good money, within their economic scale (obviously, apart from PSG, League 1 can't pay Pogba $450K for a new hair cut every week....).

The scenario changes totally, if PAK players are invited in IPL, which I don't see happening in near future. Besides, the style I see in QeAzam trophy, by the time IPL opens for PAK player in future, not sure how many PAK players will remain "layek" for an IPL call. Honestly speaking, few days back I asked Indian posters if Porel is Bengali or Gujrati living in Bengal - the reason being, I am well aware of CAB's (Cricket Association of Bengal) academy & development programs - just a mid-level Ranji State; and it's space age ahead compared to Basit Ali & Mansoor Rana model by PCB ....... Ashok Dinda and Rana Das has to change as well for a poetic justice.

I have given enough explanation why arranging PSL during IPL is the best solution in this regard - if you wish, we can discuss point by point - why if managed properly, it won't be a chaos. IPL's power isn't going to crash PSL, rather it's giving a free window from Internationals. If IPL wishes, it can put a clause on their every recruits - no other PL/SL (Only IPL & International), and they'll get away with that. Someone able to pay half a million US$ to an unknown 18 years old kid hardly bothers about what PCB or PSL is doing in their window. Rather, in that IPL chaos, PCB is getting a nice 10 weeks uninterrupted window for their league from their rival - International schedule.

However, still if you think the quality of foreign players and PSL as a whole is sufficient enough, then this thread shouldn't exist.

 

[sjahmed23]

PSL doesnt need too many foreign players as production quality is good and it is held in Pakistan. How PSL does now is totally upto the franchises and how much they want to win the tournament. I just hope the quality of production and pitches is standardized and the rest can take care of itself.

I think the goal should be to transition PSL to other cities in Pakistan and make it a commercial success with or without international players.

 

[Titan24]

Ronchi is retired. Duminy is a mediocre player so is Hastings. Rashid is not playing because Afghanistan have a series against Zimbabwe and then WCQ. Morgan might miss out too.

I am talking about player quality, not that they are retired or not.

Imran Tahir must also be mediocre player by your standards. When Duminy and Hastings play in other leagues never heard word mediocre associated with them.

Riley Russouw must be mediocre and also Bmac and Chris Lynn. I wonder why other leagues by them at pretty high prices.

 

[Titan24]

IPL isn't PSL's rival - not even remotely close. In fact, CPL, BPL, EPL, BBL isn't either, neither will be SAF League when it starts (you can check payment figures), when ECB starts their League, few PAK players that'll be called there, won't bother for PCB's central contract - you can mark it. PSL's biggest rival is International schedule, which PCB can't stop - next best thing is to do business when International cricket is off; IPL is doing that for PCB. Broadcasting money isn't any issue - in fact, it'll grow - instead of 2 BD players in IPL bench, I'll watch 7/8 other BD players playing in PSL. Besides, someone mentioned that PSL was bigger hit (tv audience) than IND-PAK clash - in that case, IPL isn't even an issue.

I watched BD-Scotland more passionately than IND-PAK match ......... 23 crore Pakistani should do so as well for PSL over IPL - that's enough market itself. You should have noticed that for 8/9 months almost at same time every Saturday & Sunday EPL, La Liga, Seria A, Bundes Liga, Portuguese League 1, Turkish League, Eredivise (Dutch League) & League 1 (France) games are played - and they all are making good money, within their economic scale (obviously, apart from PSG, League 1 can't pay Pogba $450K for a new hair cut every week....).

The scenario changes totally, if PAK players are invited in IPL, which I don't see happening in near future. Besides, the style I see in QeAzam trophy, by the time IPL opens for PAK player in future, not sure how many PAK players will remain "layek" for an IPL call. Honestly speaking, few days back I asked Indian posters if Porel is Bengali or Gujrati living in Bengal - the reason being, I am well aware of CAB's (Cricket Association of Bengal) academy & development programs - just a mid-level Ranji State; and it's space age ahead compared to Basit Ali & Mansoor Rana model by PCB ....... Ashok Dinda and Rana Das has to change as well for a poetic justice.

I have given enough explanation why arranging PSL during IPL is the best solution in this regard - if you wish, we can discuss point by point - why if managed properly, it won't be a chaos. IPL's power isn't going to crash PSL, rather it's giving a free window from Internationals. If IPL wishes, it can put a clause on their every recruits - no other PL/SL (Only IPL & International), and they'll get away with that. Someone able to pay half a million US$ to an unknown 18 years old kid hardly bothers about what PCB or PSL is doing in their window. Rather, in that IPL chaos, PCB is getting a nice 10 weeks uninterrupted window for their league from their rival - International schedule.

However, still if you think the quality of foreign players and PSL as a whole is sufficient enough, then this thread shouldn't exist.

How can you have Lynn, Bmac, Duminy, Tahir, Watson etc in the roaster when you schedule it alongside IPL?

 

[MMHS]

How can you have Lynn, Bmac, Duminy, Tahir, Watson etc in the roaster when you schedule it alongside IPL?

Only name in your list that has any "materialistic" value is Tahir, many be Lynn as well - rest are actually using PSL, rather than opposite - probably from next year none of them will be in IPL. If you go through my initial post, I did mentioned that at most 10-12 players will be missing, and that number will go down drastically year after year.

Once PSL brand is established, then it should not require obsolete stars to promote it, rather regular national players in their 20s, should improve the quality. Only around 60 players are blocked during IPL period, rest are more or less free because of International shut down. 1 month before IPL, almost all of these 60 will avoid PSL in any case, and next 60 might be blocked by Internationals - hence, may be Anamuls & Sohag Gazis among younger players along with BMac, Darren Sammy, Mahela, Malinga ... will be available for PSL in foreign quota ......

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

I wish they were able to rope ABdv in. Rabada would be a great addition as well.

 

[Titan24]

I wish they were able to rope ABdv in. Rabada would be a great addition as well.

I am sure they would have loved to play in PSL unfortunately they have test series vs Aus around th same time abd both are automatic choice for SA test xi.

 

[USofA]

IPL isn't PSL's rival - not even remotely close. In fact, CPL, BPL, EPL, BBL isn't either, neither will be SAF League when it starts (you can check payment figures), when ECB starts their League, few PAK players that'll be called there, won't bother for PCB's central contract - you can mark it. PSL's biggest rival is International schedule, which PCB can't stop - next best thing is to do business when International cricket is off; IPL is doing that for PCB. Broadcasting money isn't any issue - in fact, it'll grow - instead of 2 BD players in IPL bench, I'll watch 7/8 other BD players playing in PSL. Besides, someone mentioned that PSL was bigger hit (tv audience) than IND-PAK clash - in that case, IPL isn't even an issue.

I watched BD-Scotland more passionately than IND-PAK match ......... 23 crore Pakistani should do so as well for PSL over IPL - that's enough market itself. You should have noticed that for 8/9 months almost at same time every Saturday & Sunday EPL, La Liga, Seria A, Bundes Liga, Portuguese League 1, Turkish League, Eredivise (Dutch League) & League 1 (France) games are played - and they all are making good money, within their economic scale (obviously, apart from PSG, League 1 can't pay Pogba $450K for a new hair cut every week....).

The scenario changes totally, if PAK players are invited in IPL, which I don't see happening in near future. Besides, the style I see in QeAzam trophy, by the time IPL opens for PAK player in future, not sure how many PAK players will remain "layek" for an IPL call. Honestly speaking, few days back I asked Indian posters if Porel is Bengali or Gujrati living in Bengal - the reason being, I am well aware of CAB's (Cricket Association of Bengal) academy & development programs - just a mid-level Ranji State; and it's space age ahead compared to Basit Ali & Mansoor Rana model by PCB ....... Ashok Dinda and Rana Das has to change as well for a poetic justice.

I have given enough explanation why arranging PSL during IPL is the best solution in this regard - if you wish, we can discuss point by point - why if managed properly, it won't be a chaos. IPL's power isn't going to crash PSL, rather it's giving a free window from Internationals. If IPL wishes, it can put a clause on their every recruits - no other PL/SL (Only IPL & International), and they'll get away with that. Someone able to pay half a million US$ to an unknown 18 years old kid hardly bothers about what PCB or PSL is doing in their window. Rather, in that IPL chaos, PCB is getting a nice 10 weeks uninterrupted window for their league from their rival - International schedule.

However, still if you think the quality of foreign players and PSL as a whole is sufficient enough, then this thread shouldn't exist.

Having PSL during IPL is a very good suggestion for now. In the current scenario. But what if or rather when the IPL expands to 10 maybe even 11 or 12 teams? What happens then?

I think the IPL has the market for at least 2 if not 3 more teams. Which would mean more internationals being picked up by the new IPL teams.

What does the PSL do then? It would now be kind of scrapping the bottom. Long term issues have to be considered before moving PSL.

 

[Hedz]

IPL isn't PSL's rival - not even remotely close. In fact, CPL, BPL, EPL, BBL isn't either, neither will be SAF League when it starts (you can check payment figures), when ECB starts their League, few PAK players that'll be called there, won't bother for PCB's central contract - you can mark it. PSL's biggest rival is International schedule, which PCB can't stop - next best thing is to do business when International cricket is off; IPL is doing that for PCB. Broadcasting money isn't any issue - in fact, it'll grow - instead of 2 BD players in IPL bench, I'll watch 7/8 other BD players playing in PSL. Besides, someone mentioned that PSL was bigger hit (tv audience) than IND-PAK clash - in that case, IPL isn't even an issue.

I watched BD-Scotland more passionately than IND-PAK match ......... 23 crore Pakistani should do so as well for PSL over IPL - that's enough market itself. You should have noticed that for 8/9 months almost at same time every Saturday & Sunday EPL, La Liga, Seria A, Bundes Liga, Portuguese League 1, Turkish League, Eredivise (Dutch League) & League 1 (France) games are played - and they all are making good money, within their economic scale (obviously, apart from PSG, League 1 can't pay Pogba $450K for a new hair cut every week....).

The scenario changes totally, if PAK players are invited in IPL, which I don't see happening in near future. Besides, the style I see in QeAzam trophy, by the time IPL opens for PAK player in future, not sure how many PAK players will remain "layek" for an IPL call. Honestly speaking, few days back I asked Indian posters if Porel is Bengali or Gujrati living in Bengal - the reason being, I am well aware of CAB's (Cricket Association of Bengal) academy & development programs - just a mid-level Ranji State; and it's space age ahead compared to Basit Ali & Mansoor Rana model by PCB ....... Ashok Dinda and Rana Das has to change as well for a poetic justice.

I have given enough explanation why arranging PSL during IPL is the best solution in this regard - if you wish, we can discuss point by point - why if managed properly, it won't be a chaos. IPL's power isn't going to crash PSL, rather it's giving a free window from Internationals. If IPL wishes, it can put a clause on their every recruits - no other PL/SL (Only IPL & International), and they'll get away with that. Someone able to pay half a million US$ to an unknown 18 years old kid hardly bothers about what PCB or PSL is doing in their window. Rather, in that IPL chaos, PCB is getting a nice 10 weeks uninterrupted window for their league from their rival - International schedule.

However, still if you think the quality of foreign players and PSL as a whole is sufficient enough, then this thread shouldn't exist.

You can’t compare football and cricket in this sense, two very contrasting markets.
PSL isn’t a rival to the IPL, but if both ran simultaneously PSL would be effected.
Again I don’t see the need to move as PSL is doing just fine where it is

 

[Slog]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] - what are your thoughts on the OP's premise now?

 

[MMHS]

Having PSL during IPL is a very good suggestion for now. In the current scenario. But what if or rather when the IPL expands to 10 maybe even 11 or 12 teams? What happens then?

I think the IPL has the market for at least 2 if not 3 more teams. Which would mean more internationals being picked up by the new IPL teams.

What does the PSL do then? It would now be kind of scrapping the bottom. Long term issues have to be considered before moving PSL.

Actually 16 - IPL will move to 16 teams in 2 divisions with 2 - 2 promotion/relegation each year. Considering the size of economy, cricket infrastructure, global cricket market and over all population size of IND, there are still several Cities which can be a home base for IPL - Ahmedabad, Surat, Pune, Nugpur, Kanpur, Varoda, Vis'nam, Indore, Gowhati, Kochin ...... besides, Bombay & Delhi has expanded so much in population, infrastructure & economy that easily those 2 Cities can accommodate 1 more IPL teams based in Navi Mumbai, Gaziabad, Gurgaon, Faridabad, Thane, Nasik ......

So, it's 128 players then - equation remains same, actually worse. IPL Division 2 will pay Parvez Rasool or Ashok Dinda or Abu Nachim 3.5 crore per season, and then Mushfique, Tamim, Mahmudullah would wait for IPL auction before signing for PSL.

You are missing the fundamental problem - PSL isn't fighting with IPL, rather International schedule. That enemy can be defeated with the help of IPL and it fits perfectly for PAK, because none of your players play in IPL.

 

[BlueDoritos]

Better than expected.

 

[hayder ali]

PSL, league with boring foreign players?

I am just checking squads, good players are either supplementry, injured or either pulled out, which makes it very boring to watch only bangladesh and westindies players.

 

[shokz1408]

I think missing some big foreign players. Need 1-2 more per each team, and that too current high class players and not those retired from international cricket.

 

[Executioner]

The fact that an off form Sabbir Rahman is being picked tell you that PSL is struggling. Sabbir is a pretty good player for this format but he ain't in form.

The reality is February/March is a busy time for most sides. PSL will not sustain in the long run unless-

1) get cricket back to Pakistan
2) get cricket back to Pakistan
3) all of the above

I am sure Bangladesh players and the likes of Nabi Brendan Taylor Rashid Khan Shehzad mujeeb gonna travel to Pakistan

 

[Abdullah719]

LQ's selection of Ramdin is just ridiculous.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Denesh Ramdin at the Pakistan Super League:<br>4 innings <br>24 runs<br>Average 6<br>Strike Rate 51<br>0 fours<br>0 sixes<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL2018?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL2018</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/971731715134840832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Hasan123]

LQ's selection of Ramdin is just ridiculous.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Denesh Ramdin at the Pakistan Super League:<br>4 innings <br>24 runs<br>Average 6<br>Strike Rate 51<br>0 fours<br>0 sixes<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL2018?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL2018</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/971731715134840832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Comical selection.

 

[TeymurBlake]

I mean why select him when they could have had someone better. Maybe someone like Glenn Phillips

 

[HuzaifaE]

Names aren't huge but they're doing well. Ronchi etc have been impressive. We don't have the starpower of an IPL but that's expected. I think maybe if Lynn wasn't injured he alone would have made us feel the level of international players was a cut higher than it seems now.

 

[srh]

Awesome foreign players in PSL 3

 

[giri26]

To be frank, SA and Australia are playing a series right now so players from those countries are ruled out. BD & SL are involved in the T20 Tri-Series, so they are ruled out as well. West Indies are trying to qualify for the World cup, so their players are ruled out as well. So basically PSL has been hard done by the schedule. So only players who are retired or players who aren't playing international cricket are available to play. I don't think the franchises could have done much.