Record Breakers Right Now

[dildildalwalla]

So, I was thinking of teams currently that have genuine, world class record breakers in their sides. I think the best is Yasir Shah, who at the 18 test mark had more wickets than anyone in the history of the game and he beat a record almost a 100 years old. That was remarkable.

There is Smith for Aus whose test batting average of 61 after 50 tests is the highest of anyone for many, many decades. Someone fact check that for me but I'm pretty sure the last was Sobers.

India have Ashwin who is the fastest to 200 test wickets I believe, although a lot of it has been done on home soil and not quite with the adversity Smith or Shah have faced BUT he is the most improevd spinner I have seen in years.

I'm trying to rack my brains, is there anyone else?

 

[Finisher]

Dale Steyn
Best strike rate

 

[UN talkz]

yeah
ahmed shehzad- for most no. of selfies clicked....
and
ashok dinda for best strike rate, economy and average by a fast bowler

 

[JoniInsafian]

Babar Azam: fastest to 1000 runs ODIS
Amla: Fastest to 3000, 4000 etc... ODIS
Ashwin: Fastest to 200 wickets test, best average in India history Tests

 

[UN talkz]

Babar Azam: fastest to 1000 runs ODIS
Amla: Fastest to 3000, 4000 etc... ODIS
Ashwin: Fastest to 200 wickets test, best average in India history Tests

amla: fastest to 2000 as well
and
team man younis khan for averaging 85 against India

 

[JoniInsafian]

Jadeja: 121 wickets home, 21 away. 83% of wickets home, must be record.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Interesting how differently you commented on Yasir and Ashwin.

Anyway, humans are gifted individuals mentally. Every record creates or extends a mental ceiling within the minds of the rest of the people. Practically the achievement of breaking the 10 seconds barrier in 100m dash is as impressive or was as tough to achieve as Usain Bolt doing it at 9.58 later on. We cannot say today that no 9.58 is bigger than 9.99. Its not all about numbers. Be it any sport or field, the growth story will continue. Its a sign of progressiveness and we should be happy about that. That's all.

Gavaskar's 34 test centuries, Anwar's 194, Desmond Haynes's 17 ODI centuries also looked phenomenal during their time.

 

[UN talkz]

Jadeja: 121 wickets home, 21 away. 83% of wickets home, must be record.

and 72 of them in this season

 

[UN talkz]

Gavaskar's 34 test centuries, Anwar's 194, Desmond Haynes's 17 ODI centuries also looked phenomenal during their time.

Saqlain's record broken by mitch starc.... fastest to hundred ODI wickets

 

[The_Odd_One]

AB fastest 50, 100, and 150 scores.

He is also fastest to 8K runs.

 

[last_knight]

More recently 92 off 4.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Virat Kohli, AB De Villiers, Smith, Williamson.
Babar Azam for Pakistan.

And as a wish I hope Sarfraz breaks some captaincy records for Pakistan like overseas test series win in SA/Aus or a major loi tournament win.

 

[Justcrazy]

Rabada has also started very well so far in his first 17 test matches.

 

[JoniInsafian]

India have Ashwin who is the fastest to 200 test wickets I believe, although a lot of it has been done on home soil and not quite with the adversity Smith or Shah have faced BUT he is the most improevd spinner I have seen in years.

Ashwin is not fastest to 200... Second fastest... Maybe he will 300.

 

[Bilal7]

Jadeja: 121 wickets home, 21 away. 83% of wickets home, must be record.

Jadeja and Ashwin definitely broke the record for having the easiest conditions to ever bowl in. Doctored pitches, home advantage, good teammates to cover their slip-ups, not being tested against the best spin-playing team in the world, and a longer home season than any others in recent memory.

Ashwin is not fastest to 200... Second fastest... Maybe he will 300.

Please, no. Hopefully, he doesn't pick a single wicket in South Africa.

 

[tomato]

Jadeja and Ashwin definitely broke the record for having the easiest conditions to ever bowl in. Doctored pitches, home advantage, good teammates to cover their slip-ups, not being tested against the best spin-playing team in the world, and a longer home season than any others in recent memory.




Please, no. Hopefully, he doesn't pick a single wicket in South Africa.

Yasir shah had average of 24 before start of England series and now it stands at 31.52.

 

[Teshi98]

Yeah sure the conditions were doctored but when kohli scored on them they become flat as he is a ftb who can only score on flat pitches.
When ashwin and jadeja bowl they become raging turners. Also yasir shah is better than ashwin and amir better than shami. Brilliant man this is some real extreme level

 

[Bilal7]

Yasir shah had average of 24 before start of England series and now it stands at 31.52.

Shah has won us two matches in England. That's better than anything Ashwin has done.

Yeah sure the conditions were doctored but when kohli scored on them they become flat as he is a ftb who can only score on flat pitches.
When ashwin and jadeja bowl they become raging turners. Also yasir shah is better than ashwin and amir better than shami. Brilliant man this is some real extreme level

Doctored means they keep changing on a series by series basis. Compare the pitches that England batted on (where Ashwin averaged 30 and Kohli did great) to the ones the Aussies batted on (where Ashwin did better and Kohli completely failed). This is not a conspiracy theory, this is a fact.

 

[dildildalwalla]

Dale Steyn
Best strike rate

I mean players who are still on the rise. Steyn is pretty much at the end of his career

Babar Azam: fastest to 1000 runs ODIS
Amla: Fastest to 3000, 4000 etc... ODIS
Ashwin: Fastest to 200 wickets test, best average in India history Tests

good stuff, totally forgot about Babar, then again he needs some big performances in tests too

amla: fastest to 2000 as well
and
team man younis khan for averaging 85 against India

is that the highest batting avg against India?

Saqlain's record broken by mitch starc.... fatest to hundred ODI wickets

oops, I forgot this one

Starc is easily mt fav ODI bowler...when fit

Shah has won us two matches in England. That's better than anything Ashwin has done.



Doctored means they keep changing on a series by series basis. Compare the pitches that England batted on (where Ashwin averaged 30 and Kohli did great) to the ones the Aussies batted on (where Ashwin did better and Kohli completely failed). This is not a conspiracy theory, this is a fact.

Yep, sometimes simply looking at Shah's recent stats is not good enough considering without him,we would not have won the Lords test.

Agree with your second paragraph too but let's keep away from some of the bait thrown on here and keep up with the cricket.

 

[tomato]

Shah has won us two matches in England. That's better than anything Ashwin .

If we start applying such logics we can say a 25 average batsman better than 50 averaging batsman based on one or two performances

 

[Bilal7]

If we start applying such logics we can say a 25 average batsman better than 50 averaging batsman based on one or two performances

It's not one or two performances and Shah and Ashwin do not have a 25 point gap between their bowling averages.

 

[tomato]

It's not one or two performances and Shah and Ashwin do not have a 25 point gap between their bowling averages.

Difference of 6 points in both Average & SR are hugeeee

 

[Bilal7]

Difference of 6 points in both Average & SR are hugeeee

Easily compensated by the difference in the home pitches of the two. They were equally great in Sri Lanka, Shah was far superior in England and both were pathetic in Australia. Advantage Yasir Shah and the numbers will reflect it too by this time next year. Ashwin's honeymoon is over and now he has to bowl in South Africa and then England.

 

[Sachin136]

Easily compensated by the difference in the home pitches of the two. They were equally great in Sri Lanka, Shah was far superior in England and both were pathetic in Australia. Advantage Yasir Shah and the numbers will reflect it too by this time next year. Ashwin's honeymoon is over and now he has to bowl in South Africa and then England.

Ashwin did as well as Lyon in Australia during the last series. Yasir got trashed.

 

[Teshi98]

Ashwin surely does not have great stats in australia but he surely was much better than yasir shah. He did not give runs via lottery like yasir shah did. In england he has not got enough chances to make a impact. Sure he will do much better than his previous perfomances. You have admitted that pitches were different for different series. Only the first two matches in the australia series and first and third match from south africa series have been substandard pitches with unfair advantage to spinners. So can not understand why you always keep bringing this diffetence in pitch quality term everytime. Also the lord's pitch where yasir got most of his wickets was conductive to spin unlike the wickets where ashwin has played apart from johanesburg day 5 wicket where he failed.

 

[Bilal7]

Ashwin did as well as Lyon in Australia during the last series. Yasir got trashed.

Wrong. Just because Ashwin wasn't deemed good enough to play the first test in which Lyon took a seven-for, doesn't mean that you get the privilege of lying openly. Ashwin averaged 50+ in Australia, Yasir averaged even worse. Both were failures.

 

[Bilal7]

Ashwin surely does not have great stats in australia but he surely was much better than yasir shah. He did not give runs via lottery like yasir shah did. In england he has not got enough chances to make a impact. Sure he will do much better than his previous perfomances. You have admitted that pitches were different for different series. Only the first two matches in the australia series and first and third match from south africa series have been substandard pitches with unfair advantage to spinners. So can not understand why you always keep bringing this diffetence in pitch quality term everytime. Also the lord's pitch where yasir got most of his wickets was conductive to spin unlike the wickets where ashwin has played apart from johanesburg day 5 wicket where he failed.

Give Shah four rank turners and see his average drop to below 25. Funny how you can say "only the first two matches... and first and third matches..." when Shah hasn't even seen what a rank turner looks like throughout his career. On the contrary, Shah has had to bowl on some extremely flat pitches in the UAE, at times.

 

[Teshi98]

But sir one thing you are missing is that since arrival of yasir he has been not only the frontline spinner but also the only spinner as the second and/or third spinner pak play has hardly turned up. Whereas in almost all matches ashwin has played he has to share his wickets with 2nd spinner and sometimes even the 3rd spinner. Yasir's current average is 31.7 and even we assume he takes 40 wickets@15 in four tests on rank turners it would be still 27.5. This shows that despite being excellent in home conditions and a decent perfomance in england he has been really really poor in australia

 

[Napa]

Jadeja and Ashwin definitely broke the record for having the easiest conditions to ever bowl in. Doctored pitches, home advantage, good teammates to cover their slip-ups, not being tested against the best spin-playing team in the world, and a longer home season than any others in recent memory.


Please, no. Hopefully, he doesn't pick a single wicket in South Africa.

The Mace on your profile pic. If we gave it back, will you stop complaining about everything Indian?
[MENTION=134300]Tusker[/MENTION]

 

[Abdullah719]

But sir one thing you are missing is that since arrival of yasir he has been not only the frontline spinner but also the only spinner as the second and/or third spinner pak play has hardly turned up. Whereas in almost all matches ashwin has played he has to share his wickets with 2nd spinner and sometimes even the 3rd spinner. Yasir's current average is 31.7 and even we assume he takes 40 wickets@15 in four tests on rank turners it would be still 27.5. This shows that despite being excellent in home conditions and a decent perfomance in england he has been really really poor in australia

As has been pointed out before, Ashwin's average and ICC rating was almost mirroring Yasir's current average and ranking after he had finished his tour of Australia.

Let's see how Yasir goes in the next few Tests he plays.

As for sharing wickets, that can also be a disadvantage to Yasir. He doesn't have a reliable partner like Ashwin has Jadeja and has to shoulder more pressure. He has to contain and take wickets on his own at times.

 

[Bilal7]

The Mace on your profile pic. If we gave it back, will you stop complaining about everything Indian?
[MENTION=134300]Tusker[/MENTION]

Pakistan works for its trophies and achievements. It doesn't rely on a four series home season, on doctored pitches to get to #1. So no, we're not used to having things handed to us on a platter so you can keep it until you get thrashed in South Africa.

 

[Sachin136]

Pakistan works for its trophies and achievements. It doesn't rely on a four series home season, on doctored pitches to get to #1. So no, we're not used to having things handed to us on a platter so you can keep it until you get thrashed in South Africa.

Since October 2013 until they were ranked #1, Pakistan has 5 home series and 3 away series against Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.

 

[QalandarFan]

Babar Azam will surely break Saeed Anwar's record of 20 hundreds if he keeps batting the way he has been.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Quinton de Kock
Virat Kohli (100s chasing scores in ODIs)

 

[Tusker]

The Mace on your profile pic. If we gave it back, will you stop complaining about everything Indian?
[MENTION=134300]Tusker[/MENTION]

No he wont ... exhibit A :

Pakistan works for its trophies and achievements. It doesn't rely on a four series home season, on doctored pitches to get to #1. blah blah blah ....

Aadat sey majboor

Besides its quite entertaining this way

 

[Napa]

Pakistan works for its trophies and achievements. It doesn't rely on a four series home season, on doctored pitches to get to #1. So no, we're not used to having things handed to us on a platter so you can keep it until you get thrashed in South Africa.

Okay, we will also give you something else that you really, really want. The Mace + 1 of the 11 ICC games. Deal?

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Babar Azam is on the way to be the leading run scorer for Pakistan in ODI cricket and will most probably end up with most centuries too.

 

[tomato]

Easily compensated by the difference in the home pitches of the two. They were equally great in Sri Lanka, Shah was far superior in England and both were pathetic in Australia. Advantage Yasir Shah and the numbers will reflect it too by this time next year. Ashwin's honeymoon is over and now he has to bowl in South Africa and then England.

Where does Yasir shah plays most of his matches? for some one whose average changes from 24 to 31.5 within 4 away series shows how hyped this guy was

 

[Bilal7]

Where does Yasir shah plays most of his matches? for some one whose average changes from 24 to 31.5 within 4 away series shows how hyped this guy was

Most of Shah's matches take place in the UAE, which is far less conducive to spin bowling than India. It's all fun and games criticizing Shah while Ashwin makes merry in India but let's see how he goes in South Africa later this year, shall we?

 

[Bilal7]

Okay, we will also give you something else that you really, really want. The Mace + 1 of the 11 ICC games. Deal?

We'll send Sohail Khan and Wahab Riaz over, along with a few protein shakes and some recipes for meat-based dishes. You lot need them to eradicate your fast-bowler complex, which makes you unable to desist from making such tedious posts.

 

[Teshi98]

Thanks for the offer but currently the indian fast bowlers are much better than your legendary amirs and junaids.

 

[tomato]

Most of Shah's matches take place in the UAE, which is far less conducive to spin bowling than India. It's all fun and games criticizing Shah while Ashwin makes merry in India but let's see how he goes in South Africa later this year, shall we?

Obviously. Let us see whether he can play well there or come down crashing like world's best spinner did in 4 away series.

 

[Napa]

We'll send Sohail Khan and Wahab Riaz over, along with a few protein shakes and some recipes for meat-based dishes. You lot need them to eradicate your fast-bowler complex, which makes you unable to desist from making such tedious posts.

Please don't use the words "send over" or anything else that suggests motion when you refer to Sohail Khan. I can already hear him starting to huff and puff at the thought of motion.

As for Wahab Riaz, though I like his personality, we are already well stocked with spray guns.

 

[Hasan123]

Smith
Kohli
Ab
Starc

 

[The_Odd_One]

Rohit Sharma - highest individual score in an ODI