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Regional Contributions to Pakistan's Cricket Legacy: A Provincial Perspective​

Pakistan's cricket legacy is deeply rooted in its provinces, each contributing uniquely to the nation's rich cricketing history.

All provinces of Pakistan have contributed their share in making Pakistan; a nation with great cricketing legacy. So without indulging in provincialism and racism, please get across your point in the most civilized and erudite manner without the menace of mudsling. Thanks

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Please adhere to the requests and warnings in OP.
 
“KPK can produce 3 quality teams for Pakistan if it wasnt for the incompetent Punjabi quota”

@gazza619 come on. Answer up. You said this.

List those 3 teams.
 
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This could be a good topic if the usual suspects dont indulge into racism.

Will be adding my views on this later.

But for now, I would say that while Punjab has been the powerhouse for cricket, in recent years KPK has taken over.

One thing that needs to be remembered is that alot of pathans move to other cities of Punjab aswell. But cricket is more dominant there
 
Rana said:
“KPK can produce 3 quality teams for Pakistan if it wasnt for the incompetent Punjabi quota”

@gazza619 come on boy. Answer up. You said this.

List those 3 teams.
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We need a simple poll in the thread my friend. Dont get why my request is so difficult to make you understand.
 
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gazza619 said:
We need a simple poll in the thread my friend. Dont get why my request is so difficult to make you understand.
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This is all you are allowed to get. Or make the thread the way you deem fit but with your claim as I quoted. Or just admit it that it was a stupid claim on your behalf?
 
The Bald Eagle said:

Regional Contributions to Pakistan's Cricket Legacy: A Provincial Perspective​

Pakistan's cricket legacy is deeply rooted in its provinces, each contributing uniquely to the nation's rich cricketing history.

All provinces of Pakistan have contributed their share in making Pakistan; a nation with great cricketing legacy. So without indulging in provincialism and racism, please get across your point in the most civilized and erudite manner without the menace of mudsling. Thanks

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Please adhere to the requests and warnings in OP.
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Thanks for making this thread.

And i apologise for the previous thread, I didn't mean to add in any racism or anything, i was trying to make a thread like this. It just didn't come across properly.

Anyway @gazza619 you got what you wanted brother, you can now please name the 33 players that are > our current team
 
Rana said:
This is all you are allowed to get. Or make the thread the way you deem fit but with your claim as I quoted. Or just admit it that it was a stupid claim on your behalf?
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You are fired!!! Good for nothing intern.
 
gazza619 said:
We need a simple poll in the thread my friend. Dont get why my request is so difficult to make you understand.
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You make 3 Khyber Pakhtunkhwa based XIs which you feel can defeat the current full strength Pakistan team
 
Rana said:
Just answer the question

I know you can’t because I don’t think you know more than 5 players from KPK
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Even i don't know more then 5-7 players from KPK that aren't in the team atm 🤣. So I'm curious as to which 33 players exist.
 
Come on Gazza…33 players please

Don’t be shy
 
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Rana said:
This guy is clueless, he will be exposed here that’s why he is running away from it.
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I mean ik a few that are genuinely good though but some of them aren't even in pakistan anymore like zafar gohar.

And even he was born in Lahore. He's just kpk via race(pathan) but he isnt from kpk, i don't think he ever stepped foot their. It's a shame since he was a gun spin talent, way better then Abrar.

He's in middlesex now
 
mominsaigol said:
I mean ik a few that are genuinely good though but some of them aren't even in pakistan anymore like zafar gohar.

And even he was born in Lahore. He's just kpk via race(pathan) but he isnt from kpk, i don't think he ever stepped foot their. It's a shame since he was a gun spin talent, way better then Abrar.

He's in middlesex now
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Bro this guy doesn’t have the intellect required to study squads and their depths. He calls all of Pakistan’s domestic players as Kachra. He’s like those Shah Rukh Khan fan girls that don’t know anything about Bollywood besides SRK, but in cricket instead.


So he should now man up and back his claim or forever condemn himself to the pits of cowardice!
 
Rana said:
Bro this guy doesn’t have the intellect required to study squads and their depths. He calls all of Pakistan’s domestic players as Kachra. He’s like those Shah Rukh Khan fan girls that don’t know anything about Bollywood besides SRK, but in cricket instead.


So he should now man up and back his claim or forever condemn himself to the pits of cowardice!
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So far his claims are

1) Babar > Khawaja because babar hit more sixes in international cricket. Sixes in test cricket vs odi and t20 🤣🤣🤣

2) Babar > Abhishek because Abhishek hasn't made his debut yet in odi. And in t20 17 t20's is not enough to gauge

3) Rizwan is an outsider in the team, Captain outsider.

4) 33 players from KPK are > the entire 25 playing pool from PK team.
 
Punjab has dominated alot in cricket because alot of people moved from other provinces to Punjab and they always had a larger pool of players. Plus, every city of Punjab has a ground and a team at some level.

But the main thing that contributed was the ability to speak punjabi. Cricket is like any other job. You socialize with people, that helps you in getting a good promotion. You attend office parties, dinners and trips and it helps you alot.

Our cricket culture is same. Instead of parties, the socialization is done on dhaba teas and net practices etc. People in Punjab speak mostly punjabi, and when a punjabi meets another punjabi they tend to socialize over the language. Urdu is not a commonly spoken language alot of people from Punjab cant speak in Urdu. Infact, even pathans living in Rawalpindi, Islamabad and Lahore speak punjabi aswel. So this factor of networking is also one of the reasons why guys from Punjab teams get to play international cricket easily.

In recent years however, KPK has given alot of cricketers. That is because cricket as a sport is played alot in KPK. In KPK there are not that many forms of entertainment so cricket is played alot and people from KPK are very competitive in sports. Plus alot of people from KPK tend to move to Rawalpindi, Lahore and Karachi.

Sindh has produced very little cricketers and I think the reason for that is the language barrier that i mention as Sindhis either speak Urdu or Sindhi.
 
gazza619 said:
You first find a new employee. This Rana chap could not follow one simple instruction you sent.
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A guy from Kashmir is doing more favours to you by actually giving you some names that you don’t even know who they are.
 
Rana said:
Shahzaib who?

Shehzad who?

Akif is from Balochistan, that’s not KPK

Qasim who?

You’ve named 4 guys that are not even from KPK
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Shahzaib khan u19 players from mansehra.
Shehzad,mot president cup from dera Ghazi khan.
Qasim Akram all rounder from abbotabad
Akif is from karak district of kpk.

thodi research kar Kai aao.
 
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jamie smith fan said:
Shahzaib khan u19 players from mansehra.
Shehzad,mot president cup from dera Ghazi khan.
Qasim Akram all rounder from abbotabad
Akif is from karak district of kpk.

Bongiyan na mara,thodi research kar Kai aao.
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How about you write their surnames?

These guys will beat the Pakistan team?????
 
Rana said:
How about you write their surnames?

These guys will beat the Pakistan team?????
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Imam ul Haq <<<<Maaz
Abd<<<Fakhar
Babar<<<KG
Rizwan<<<Farhan
Salman>>Qasim
Tt<<<<Chachu
Faheem<<<<<Shehzad
Haris>>Naseem
Ali<<<<<wasim Jr
Abrar<<<Sajid
Sufyan >>Akif
 
Rana said:
The drill wasn’t to name 33 players from KPK

The drill was to name 33 that will beat the current Pakistan team….like Gazza claimed.

Every region can name 33 players 🤡
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Can u name 33 players from Sindh??
 
Rana said:
The drill wasn’t to name 33 players from KPK

The drill was to name 33 that will beat the current Pakistan team….like Gazza claimed.

Every region can name 33 players 🤡
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Person who argued akif javed is from Balochistan. Lol 😆
 
jamie smith fan said:
Can u name 33 players from Sindh??
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I can try. Yes.

1. Saud
2. Khurram
3. Jahanzib
4. Nafay
5. Sharjeel
6. Saim
7. Danish
8. Taha
9. Shan
10. Hamza
11. Fawad Alam
12. Sarfaraz
13. Omair
14. Usman Khan
15. Ammad Alam
16. Abrar Ahmed
17. Anwar Ali
18. Saad Baig
19. Arif Yaqoob
20. Zeeshan Zameer
21. Zahid Mahmood
22. Shahnawaz Dahani
23. Muhammad Umar
24. Haroon Arshad
25. Azam Khan
26. Muhammad Hasnain

I got to 26, these are the ones I know well. There are plenty more I can name just for making up numbers because you want 33.
 
jamie smith fan said:
Shahzaib khan u19 players from mansehra.
Shehzad,mot president cup from dera Ghazi khan.
Qasim Akram all rounder from abbotabad
Akif is from karak district of kpk.

thodi research kar Kai aao.
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“Qasim was born in Abbottabad but learned his cricket in Lahore, joining the city's Riazuddin Cricket Academy before playing at club level and then at Under-16. He'd then perform in the Under-19s at the district level for Lahore in 2018 and then at the national level in 2019, when he'll be selected for the 2019 ACC Under-19 Asia Cup.<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qasim_Akram#cite_note-PakPassion-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a>“

KPK has nothing to do with Qasim’s upbringing.

That would make NZ’s Muhammad Abbas a Lahore player and not a kiwi if QA is from KPK
 
jamie smith fan said:
Naseem shah represents Lahore so he is from Lahore??
Jaiswal represents Goa so he is from Goa??
Irfan pathan represented jk in the past so he is from. Jk??
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You can have Naseem Shah. His development was in KPK.
 
Rana said:
“Qasim was born in Abbottabad but learned his cricket in Lahore, joining the city's Riazuddin Cricket Academy before playing at club level and then at Under-16. He'd then perform in the Under-19s at the district level for Lahore in 2018 and then at the national level in 2019, when he'll be selected for the 2019 ACC Under-19 Asia Cup.<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qasim_Akram#cite_note-PakPassion-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a>“

KPK has nothing to do with Qasim’s upbringing.

That would make NZ’s Muhammad Abbas a Lahore player and not a kiwi if QA is from KPK
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But ethnically he is from kpk.
I pursued my higher education from srinagar so would that make me a citizen of srinagar??
U are just bringing lame excuses to shadow ur incompetence.
 
Rana said:
I can try. Yes.

1. Saud
2. Khurram
3. Jahanzib
4. Nafay
5. Sharjeel
6. Saim
7. Danish
8. Taha
9. Shan
10. Hamza
11. Fawad Alam
12. Sarfaraz
13. Omair
14. Usman Khan
15. Ammad Alam
16. Abrar Ahmed
17. Anwar Ali
18. Saad Baig
19. Arif Yaqoob
20. Zeeshan Zameer
21. Zahid Mahmood
22. Shahnawaz Dahani
23. Muhammad Umar
24. Haroon Arshad
25. Azam Khan
26. Muhammad Hasnain

I got to 26, these are the ones I know well. There are plenty more I can name just for making up numbers because you want 33.
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Shan masood was born in Kuwait
He can't make the list.
Some of the players u have named have retired and playing llc.
 
jamie smith fan said:
But ethnically he is from kpk.
I pursued my higher education from srinagar so would that make me a citizen of srinagar??
U are just bringing lame excuses to shadow ur incompetence.
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Ethnically he can be from Pluto. I care about where the cricket development took place.

If poor families from KPK want to move to big cities for better opportunities, that’s none of my business. The boy was raised and learned his cricket in Lahore. He is a Lahore/Punjab product.
 
Rana said:
Ethnically he can be from Pluto. I care about where the cricket development took place.

If poor families from KPK want to move to big cities for better opportunities, that’s none of my business. The boy was raised and learned his cricket in Lahore. He is a Lahore/Punjab product.
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But point is about kpk players born in kpk.
 
jamie smith fan said:
Shan masood was born in Kuwait
He can't make the list.
Some of the players u have named have retired and playing llc.
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I had no problem naming 33 to make numbers for the sake of it.

Shan Masood is billed as a Karachi boy. We know him as one. He represented Karachi in the National cup and Sindh before it under Sarfaraz. He was brought into KK by Haider Azhar to give the franchise a home player touch. That’s their player/product.

Which players are retired? I didn’t mention Muhammad Sami lool. Fawad Alam as far as I know isn’t retired from red ball fc
 
Rana said:
I had no problem naming 33 to make numbers for the sake of it.

Shan Masood is billed as a Karachi boy. We know him as one. He represented Karachi in the National cup and Sindh before it under Sarfaraz. He was brought into KK by Haider Azhar to give the franchise a home player touch. That’s their player/product.

Which players are retired? I didn’t mention Muhammad Sami lool. Fawad Alam as far as I know isn’t retired from red ball fc
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By retire I mean their careers are over
Sharjeel
Fawad
Anwar
Zahid
Sarfaraz

Some players don't even play regular domestic cricket
Umar
Ammad Alam
Azam
Zeeshan zammer
 
jamie smith fan said:
By retire I mean their careers are over
Sharjeel
Fawad
Anwar
Zahid
Sarfaraz

Some players don't even play regular domestic cricket
Umar
Ammad Alam
Azam
Zeeshan zammer
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Is that any of my business? They are retired or active players who play or should be playing competitive cricket???
 
Major said:
Punjab has dominated alot in cricket because alot of people moved from other provinces to Punjab and they always had a larger pool of players. Plus, every city of Punjab has a ground and a team at some level.

But the main thing that contributed was the ability to speak punjabi. Cricket is like any other job. You socialize with people, that helps you in getting a good promotion. You attend office parties, dinners and trips and it helps you alot.

Our cricket culture is same. Instead of parties, the socialization is done on dhaba teas and net practices etc. People in Punjab speak mostly punjabi, and when a punjabi meets another punjabi they tend to socialize over the language. Urdu is not a commonly spoken language alot of people from Punjab cant speak in Urdu. Infact, even pathans living in Rawalpindi, Islamabad and Lahore speak punjabi aswel. So this factor of networking is also one of the reasons why guys from Punjab teams get to play international cricket easily.

In recent years however, KPK has given alot of cricketers. That is because cricket as a sport is played alot in KPK. In KPK there are not that many forms of entertainment so cricket is played alot and people from KPK are very competitive in sports. Plus alot of people from KPK tend to move to Rawalpindi, Lahore and Karachi.

Sindh has produced very little cricketers and I think the reason for that is the language barrier that i mention as Sindhis either speak Urdu or Sindhi.
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I can't speak punjabi either, my parents can, I can't. I've also forgotten how to read and write urdu, I can write English urdu though.

So I more or less agree with your point, this language barrier is a pain, not in Lahore but some other areas definitely.
 
jamie smith fan said:
But point is about kpk players born in kpk.
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That's like me having a degree from Brighton and Sydney but crediting Pakistan for my education? Development took place someplace else. But yes ethicnically their kpk and have genetic advantages that pathani people tend to have over punjabi
 
jamie smith fan said:
So will I name Afridi,Asad,Yasir Shah,Riaz Afridi in my kpk player list also??
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Do what you want. It’s a free world. Riaz Afridi and Shaheen Afridi are KPK players. Who’s claimed them? Who’s claimed Yasir Shah from outside of KPK unless his development as a cricketer wasn’t in that region?
 
mominsaigol said:
That's like me having a degree from Brighton and Sydney but crediting Pakistan for my education? Development took place someplace else. But yes ethicnically their kpk and have genetic advantages that pathani people tend to have over punjabi
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If someone does MBBS degree from Iran does he become an Irani??
 
jamie smith fan said:
If someone does MBBS degree from Iran does he become an Irani??
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Ofcourse not, thats what I'm saying, Studying in England and Australia as well as getting an Aussie citizenship did not change my race, or ethnicity. I am still Pakistani by origin and my aussie passport clearly states race as Pakistani.

In fact even every single aussie player in the team has their ethinicty listed as English, with boland being an exception whos listed as Strait Islander/indigenous Australian/aboriginals.

However my development still took place someplace else, I can't credit Pakistan for my educational status when I never studied their

jamie smith fan said:
But u are still a Pakistani not a English man after studying in Brighton??
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Rana said:
If someone lived his entire childhood, teen years and obtained all of his senior education from Iran….yes he counts as an Irani!
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Let's forget Qasim Akram now.
But what about ur rubbish claim that akif is from Balochistan??
 
Rana said:
Yes it’s a great subject for you. Misbah loved scouting KPK players….
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Misbah scouted players from all over Pakistan, so dont know what you are talking about.
 
jamie smith fan said:
He just represented but he is from kpk
Full stop.
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after you have have been caught out claiming Qasim Akram’s development to KPK, we must also question your claim of Akif learning his trade in KPK and not developing in Balochistan.

Akif Javed - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org en.m.wikipedia.org

Read it here, Akif made his domestic debut for Balochistan. So now you should provide credible proof that his development wasn’t in Balochistan and was in fact in KPK.
 
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Rana said:
First of all, it’s Full Stop. Not Full Stopped.

Secondly, after you have have been caught out claiming Qasim Akram’s development to KPK, we must also question your claim of Akif learning his trade in KPK and not developing in Balochistan.

Akif Javed - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org en.m.wikipedia.org

Read it here, Akif made his domestic debut for Balochistan. So now you should provide credible proof that his development wasn’t in Balochistan and was in fact in KPK.
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It was auto correct.
I was writing fullll istopppp
Still English is not my first language either.It is a distant 4th after kashmir,Urdu and hindi.
 
jamie smith fan said:
OK so DGK falls in punjab.
Sorry my mistake. :apology
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So that’s 3 players you have listed that don’t owe their development to KPK?

I think I’ll have to go through every player now in your list. This is highly incompetent work. That’s why you shouldn’t act like Akshay Kumar and jump into things that do not concern you.
 
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