[REPORT] PCB considering names of Wasim Akram and Misbah-ul-Haq for cricket committee

[Abdullah719]

LAHORE: Paksitan Cricket Board (PCB) on Sunday stated that the board is considering the names of former captains Wasim Akram and Misbahul Haq for the cricket committee.

According to the reports, PCB Chairman Ehsan Mani has consulted with the patron Prime Minister Imran Khan for the inclusion of these two legendary Pakistani cricketers in the committee.

The reports further stated that there is complete confidence over the names of Wasim and Misbah as cricket players from 70s and 90s will also be included in the committee.

Former captain and coach Intikhab Alam is another strong contender for the committee, the reports suggested.

Earlier, former cricketer and commentator Ramiz Raja stated that a cricket committee in Pakistan is “need of the hour”. Talking about the urgent measures and steps needed to be taken for the management and administration departments of the cricketing board, Raja suggested a cricket committee, consisting of former and current players.

“Such committee should be given the task of taking care of the domestic cricket as well as of improving the Think Tank responsible for making crucial decisions,” Raja said.

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/20...-names-of-wasim-misbah-for-cricket-committee/

 

[Rinnegan Sasuke]

If making a committee was a national sport...

 

[Madplayer]

If making a committee was a national sport...

Then Pakistanis would find a way to not make committees anymore.

 

[Bewal Express]

Not another committee. Ehsan Mani you have what it takes to make decisions, so make them.

 

[Markhor]

Former captain and coach Intikhab Alam is another strong contender for the committee, the reports suggested.

OF COURSE Intikhab Alam would be a contender for a committee role

Truly the immovable object.

 

[MMHS]

Does he need to consult with chief patron to run his day to day operations?

 

[Abid Z]

Cricketers from the 70’s??? So if they were 30 in 1970 now in 2018 they would be aged nearing...OMG do we need more 70/80 year olds involved in PCB administration? Already there are more dinosaurs than Jurassic Park. Just take example of England. Strauss wasn’t even 40 when he was given role in ECB management.

The more you hope for things to change the more they stay the same.

 

[Hitman]

Ijaz Butt deserves a good prestigious spot in the PCB.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

OF COURSE Intikhab Alam would be a contender for a committee role

Truly the immovable object.

Say no to fat shaming.

 

[CricketDon]

Bye bye umar akmals career even further

 

[SARJ_BD]

What is Cricket committee?

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Misbah and Wasim would make sense. They know the current day cricket, and how things run in Pakistan.
Both have good heads on their shoulders as well.

But the problem is, does misbah have time to be involved in a role for improving domestic cricket when he is busy making a hospital for children?
Will Wasim Akram be willing to take on a PCB job he has turned down in every excuse possible?

And a bigger concern is, even if they get these two, will they have the power to make changes or will they just be giving "suggestions". Misbah I believe is too honorable a man to be "doing" a job which involves doing nothing.

Coming on to Intikhab Alam, I thought PCB had retired him from taking any further posts in PCB a few years back? Involving Intikhab Alam anywhere is just never a right decision. He is arrogant, outdated and foul mouthed(as his past statements show).

It's good for the new chairman to ask for time to do things right, but with every passing day I am afraid Ehsan Mani is just turning out to be a talker rather than doer and he has already bit more than he can chew. I hope I am proven wrong in the long run.

 

[MMHS]

What is Cricket committee?

Not a bad idea actually. Cricket boards’ operation can be divided into 2 major parts - business operation & technical operation. You need cricket people for the 2nd part.

To simplify, let’s take a mobile phone operation - you need people to run marketing, finance, procurement, HR operation.... and these are universal positions - a business graduate or finance guy can run the show, even without any prior background in mobility business - I have seen top executives shining in Mobile business for Marketing, Sales, Customer Service, Finance, Supply Chain or HR operations, starting from scratch, coming from FMCG (Coca-Cola, P&G, Unilever, KFC ... ), British American Tobacco, Microsoft, Accenture, Lafarge, British Petroleum, ABB or from Banks.

But, you can’t do a telecom technical job unless you are subject matter expert - that’s a background of electrical or telecommunication engineering or something similar is minimum starting point. Similarly, in cricket operation, you need subject matter experts for a particular area (you can call it technical office - not necessarily guys have to play 104 Tests, but need considerable understanding & experience in cricket as a whole).

Now, what someone will do in cricket committee can be definded by PCB chairman - he might need some high profile names to justify his action (s) in front of media, or he might need to throw some bones to stop barking around him ..... but the requirements are there. Also, just that you have played for 25 years, don’t expect to deliver in a consulting role - one needs to be passionate as well with learning appetite, so that he can cope up with the versatile & ambiguous demands of the job within resource limitations.

 

[Savak]

The Cricket Committee should only have players who have played Cricket from 2000 onwards. Players who are well versed with the modern game.

 

[Pete Rose]

How is this biryani committee different from the other biryani committees

 

[Hasan123]

All these committes and yet none of them do anything about pitches in domestic cricket.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Wasim Akram should be kept away from Pakistan cricket.

 

[topspin]

All these committes and yet none of them do anything about pitches in domestic cricket.

PCB and their priorities. I bet they have barely bat an eyelid over the 35 and 44 all out affair in that FC game earlier this week.

 

[Hasan123]

PCB and their priorities. I bet they have barely bat an eyelid over the 35 and 44 all out affair in that FC game earlier this week.

Exactly. Most professional organisations would be looking into that rather than setting up committes.

 

[Savak]

Fixing pitches requires a huge influx of money which the PCB does not have

 

[MMHS]

Fixing pitches requires a huge influx of money which the PCB does not have

Not really - trust me. Obviously, if you want to change every wicket of over 100 grounds,it'll be big project. But, fixing 10-12 wickets (half match wickets, half at net), in 10-12 FC grounds is not a big deal; but obviously that won't happen with farmers.

1998 ICC KO tournament was held in Dhaka - 7 games in one venue & 8 teams based in one City, with one stadium which was mostly occupied for games. ICC sent Atkinson, a Pro curator from ECB and he worked with local coaches to prepare match wickets and somewhat bringing few other grounds to minimum level for practice. 2 of those grounds IICRC were BUET & Dhaka University grounds, and in 3 months his team converted those over used University grounds into international standard practice facility. Those days National Stadium Dhaka was only major stadium in City & shared by soccer season till SEP, and cricket season till April - Atkinson was given one extra month (from early August), for an ICC event in October, in full monsoon; still most games produced 275+ runs in 1998.

Looking at the amount of bounce in most PAK domestic wickets, I don't think the task is even that hard (what Atkinson achieved) or costly. But, first that realization should come that it's not working, a change is needed.

 

[Snowflake]

Now watch how Wasim would turn this offer down and then complain about no one approaching him for help.

 

[moghul]

Don;t want Misbah in, Pakistan has not recovered from his days of negativity and defensive mindset in the team. Wasim's inclusion is great news.

 

[davethebrave]

Don;t want Misbah in, Pakistan has not recovered from his days of negativity and defensive mindset in the team. Wasim's inclusion is great news.

Agreed. He's no legend and I don't feel he's particularly bright either, his genius in Mohali (and elsewhere ) is proof of that - very lucky to be playing in an era when the standard of cricket was (and is) at an all-time low. Having to watch the painful cricket he spawned which continues with his protege, Azhar Ali, scoring once a series whilst destroying the method of other cricketers as a result is not, I believe, a desirable outcome. I have no problem with Intikhab Alam, he's won two global tournaments as coach hasn't he? I sincerely hope this isn't an attempt by Mani to abdicate his resposibility, he was fabulous with the ICC, but Misbah is the last person who should be involved, he has almost single-handedly destroyed the national cricketing ethos IMHO and I have no faith in him as a judge of young cricketing horseflesh or in its development.

 

[AFM]

Where is the committee who will choose who is in the cricket committee?

 

[Hawkeye]

How is this biryani committee different from the other biryani committees

You're being too nice.

They've always been 'five-star hotel, fully paid international holiday tours' committees.

 

[ARK Rafay]

Committes, Committees, Committes. What else do we need besides this?

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Agreed. He's no legend and I don't feel he's particularly bright either, his genius in Mohali (and elsewhere ) is proof of that - very lucky to be playing in an era when the standard of cricket was (and is) at an all-time low. Having to watch the painful cricket he spawned which continues with his protege, Azhar Ali, scoring once a series whilst destroying the method of other cricketers as a result is not, I believe, a desirable outcome. I have no problem with Intikhab Alam, he's won two global tournaments as coach hasn't he? I sincerely hope this isn't an attempt by Mani to abdicate his resposibility, he was fabulous with the ICC, but Misbah is the last person who should be involved, he has almost single-handedly destroyed the national cricketing ethos IMHO and I have no faith in him as a judge of young cricketing horseflesh or in its development.

I wanted to discuss this opinion of yours but I realized it would be useless, when you agreed with the comment that he destroyed Pakistani cricket.

Only a superficial stone cold observer could pass the buck to Misbah and move on with a satisfied grim smile that its the entire story.

Not surprised either.

Lots of people misjudged Misbah because he was an educated personality unlike the vocal Sarfraz or the comedian Afridi and that counts for little in Pakistan.

 

[Major]

Pavilion question asked that misbah tell his side of the story in the removal of Mackey Arthur.

Akram answered in beautifully, it was not misbah who removed him.

He akram was part of comittee and misbah too, but they only gave there input they never removed him.

Plus, waseem said if they removed him and misbah made himself coach that would had been too obvious so why would misbah or him even do such a thing.

Basically they didn't take this decision. You guys got the answer

 

[Rana]

Pavilion question asked that misbah tell his side of the story in the removal of Mackey Arthur.

Akram answered in beautifully, it was not misbah who removed him.

He akram was part of comittee and misbah too, but they only gave there input they never removed him.

Plus, waseem said if they removed him and misbah made himself coach that would had been too obvious so why would misbah or him even do such a thing.

Basically they didn't take this decision. You guys got the answer

What could Misbah’s input be?

“Mickey is a poor white ball coach and shouldn’t be persisted with”

Hypocrite of the highest order

 

[moghul]

Misbah should be banned from participating in any PCB activity.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Misbah should be banned from participating in any PCB activity.

He can be an excellent administrator or from an operational perspective but should be nowhere near the coach or selectors job.

 

[Major]

What could Misbah’s input be?

“Mickey is a poor white ball coach and shouldn’t be persisted with”

Hypocrite of the highest order

Maybe it was that he was not a bad coach and did good.

Stop making up dumb conclusions without any proof to back it up

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

I thought this was a new thread and was horrified that Misbah may be involved again.

 

[muqarrab]

Pavilion question asked that misbah tell his side of the story in the removal of Mackey Arthur.

Akram answered in beautifully, it was not misbah who removed him.

He akram was part of comittee and misbah too, but they only gave there input they never removed him.

Plus, waseem said if they removed him and misbah made himself coach that would had been too obvious so why would misbah or him even do such a thing.

Basically they didn't take this decision. You guys got the answer

Where did they say this?

This conflict of interest aside, pakistanis have wierd fascination with chitti chamri mickey arthur who didn't know hsibest eleven going into both icc torunaments in tenure and stupidly change the team composition in test matches.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Maybe it was that he was not a bad coach and did good.

Stop making up dumb conclusions without any proof to back it up

You came to the conclusion that Misbah didn’t make the decision, where’s your proof?

 

[moghul]

I thought this was a new thread and was horrified that Misbah may be involved again.

Me too, almost had a heart attack.

 

[Rana]

Maybe it was that he was not a bad coach and did good.

Stop making up dumb conclusions without any proof to back it up

And you have proof that he recommended Mickey to stay on? It’s you who are stupid to think Misbah will be exonerated here for the crimes he has committed to Pakistan’s white ball cricket!

 

[ask_analyse_act]

I thought this was a new thread and was horrified that Misbah may be involved again.

Same reaction as me. Thank God he is not returning

Such a stubborn person for change , Pakistan will go backwards if they appoint him in any capacity

 

[Forum363]

Pavilion question asked that misbah tell his side of the story in the removal of Mackey Arthur.

Akram answered in beautifully, it was not misbah who removed him.

He akram was part of comittee and misbah too, but they only gave there input they never removed him.

Plus, waseem said if they removed him and misbah made himself coach that would had been too obvious so why would misbah or him even do such a thing.

Basically they didn't take this decision. You guys got the answer

You not accepting how ridiculous this is just shows how biased you are.

The fact is that Misbah was put on the committee to decide Mickey’s future as coach. There were strong and persistent rumours that Misbah was in line to become the next coach - so this was an obvious conflict of interest.

Misbah came out and categorically said he is not interested and will not be applying for the coaching position so it’s not a conflict of interest.

The committee decided to not extend Mickeys contract.

Misbah shortly after applied and basically got the position without anyone else being considered as the other applicants confirmed, if I remember correctly.

All Wasim said is that no one person removed him, they gave their input and the committee decided… they were on the committee and the outcome was to remove him. How is that not clear enough.

 

[Major]

You not accepting how ridiculous this is just shows how biased you are.

The fact is that Misbah was put on the committee to decide Mickey’s future as coach. There were strong and persistent rumours that Misbah was in line to become the next coach - so this was an obvious conflict of interest.

Misbah came out and categorically said he is not interested and will not be applying for the coaching position so it’s not a conflict of interest.

The committee decided to not extend Mickeys contract.

Misbah shortly after applied and basically got the position without anyone else being considered as the other applicants confirmed, if I remember correctly.

All Wasim said is that no one person removed him, they gave their input and the committee decided… they were on the committee and the outcome was to remove him. How is that not clear enough.

As usual you are wrong.

Misbaj being rumored as captain didn't start during Arthur's time.

Misbah actually gave a favorable review to Arthur.

Anyways, the comittee was over ruled and Arthur was sacked. Job search was done and no real candidate applied.

It was after the job search misbah was considered.


Plz get your facts right atleast. Don't make up stuff if you don't know the whole story and the timeliness of events

 

[Major]

And you have proof that he recommended Mickey to stay on? It’s you who are stupid to think Misbah will be exonerated here for the crimes he has committed to Pakistan’s white ball cricket!

I followed this news back than. I remember the time line of events.

I followed all the leaks. Committee was not removing Arthur, this decision came from the top, patron level

 

[Major]

Where did they say this?

This conflict of interest aside, pakistanis have wierd fascination with chitti chamri mickey arthur who didn't know hsibest eleven going into both icc torunaments in tenure and stupidly change the team composition in test matches.

Pavilion

 

[Syed1]

Oh thank God this is an old thread. The last thing Pakistan needs is more of Misbah

 

[Kroll]

I thought this was a new thread and was horrified that Misbah may be involved again.

Me too, almost had a heart attack.

Same reaction as me. Thank God he is not returning

Such a stubborn person for change , Pakistan will go backwards if they appoint him in any capacity

Oh thank God this is an old thread. The last thing Pakistan needs is more of Misbah

Thank God.

 

[Smbhayi]

I thought this was a new thread and was horrified that Misbah may be involved again.

I thought it was a new thread, I was almost going to congratulate [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]

 

[Forum363]

As usual you are wrong.

Misbaj being rumored as captain didn't start during Arthur's time.

Misbah actually gave a favorable review to Arthur.

Anyways, the comittee was over ruled and Arthur was sacked. Job search was done and no real candidate applied.

It was after the job search misbah was considered.


Plz get your facts right atleast. Don't make up stuff if you don't know the whole story and the timeliness of events

Interesting you talk about facts and then in the next message talk about 'leaks'. Can you quote some here?

Here are the unequivocal facts:

7 August 2019 - Mickey to be removed as coach. 'After the unanimous decision of the committee that it was time for new leadership and a fresh approach". So you're wrong, the committee was unanimous is agreeing Arthur did not continue - basically Misbah recommended Mickey no longer continue.

https://wisden.com/stories/international-cricket/pakistan-head-coach-mickey-arthur/amp

15 August 2019 - Misbah given responsibility to lead training camp. Article clearly states 'When the PCB decided not to renew the contracts of head coach Mickey Arthur and his entire coaching staff, there was some media speculation that Misbah could be given the top job'. So already rumours of Misbah being the coach and real responsibility being given to Misbah.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/...in-coaching-staff-vacuum-1197655?platform=amp

15 August 2019 - The day Mickey's tenure officially finished and after this, the PCB started to advertise for the role officially.

21 August 2019 - Misbah denies he's in the running to be the coach "I haven't applied for the coaching role and any media reports to the contrary are rumours'. Its been 6 days since the coaching position was open and rumours had been circulating for a while about his appointment.

https://wisden.com/stories/international-cricket/misbah-ul-haq-pakistan-job/amp

26 August 2019 - Misbah officially applies to the head coach position. "Its interesting to see my name mentioned, but I only made the decision today. I am applying fully aware that the competition will be tough and there will be a few more very competent and highly qualified people applying".

4 Sept 2019 - Misbah becomes coach and chief selector.

Where does it say that Misbah gave a favourable review? Anyone with a brain can see that time timeline of events and how it SCREAMS conflict of interest. I posted facts and sources, please do the same or accept you are biased.

 

[Forum363]

If Misbah had a shred of dignity and was actually not interested in the head coach role, he should have declined it while being ‘chased’ by the PCB, knowing full well that he has just recently retired, does not have the proper coaching qualifications AND experience, and that this role was to be one of unprecedented power and responsibility. But no, he applied a few days after he was ‘not interested’ and a few days after recommending the coach be removed.

He will always know what a snake move he played. I hope he gets the comeuppance for his selfish actions.

 

[topspin]

If Misbah had a shred of dignity and was actually not interested in the head coach role, he should have declined it while being ‘chased’ by the PCB, knowing full well that he has just recently retired, does not have the proper coaching qualifications AND experience, and that this role was to be one of unprecedented power and responsibility. But no, he applied a few days after he was ‘not interested’ and a few days after recommending the coach be removed.

He will always know what a snake move he played. I hope he gets the comeuppance for his selfish actions.

Precisely this.

I always laugh at Misbah's cheerleaders who take a moral high ground because everyone knows their hero ousted Mickey for his self interests but they still deny it.

Doesn't matter what Wasim Akram says because it's obvious he's looking out for his colleague.

 

[hitthestump]

Misbah should be banned from participating in any PCB activity.

Meanwhile Wasim (smartly) wants nothing to do with any PCB involvement.

His fellow pacer Waqar has managed to ruin his name by getting involved in thankless roles that he was also very bad at.

 

[adzzy786]

Pavilion question asked that misbah tell his side of the story in the removal of Mackey Arthur.

Akram answered in beautifully, it was not misbah who removed him.

He akram was part of comittee and misbah too, but they only gave there input they never removed him.

Plus, waseem said if they removed him and misbah made himself coach that would had been too obvious so why would misbah or him even do such a thing.

Basically they didn't take this decision. You guys got the answer

Which episode was this?

 

[topspin]

As usual you are wrong.

Misbaj being rumored as captain didn't start during Arthur's time.

Misbah actually gave a favorable review to Arthur.

Anyways, the comittee was over ruled and Arthur was sacked. Job search was done and no real candidate applied.

It was after the job search misbah was considered.


Plz get your facts right atleast. Don't make up stuff if you don't know the whole story and the timeliness of events

What you see above in bold is irrelevant.

Misbah is educated, albeit having graduated from a third rate institution. He knew that accepting the role as Head Coach was a clear and obvious conflict of interest.

If he had any shred of dignity and credibility, he wouldn't take it because he didn't have any relevant experience nor did he have the qualifications to be putting himself forward for the role.

It's a shameless thing to do and you're defending the indefensible.

You can't go around condemning Wasim Akram for taking cocaine and then go out of your way to defend Misbah for what he did.

If you're going to take the moral high ground, be consistent.

 

[Major]

Interesting you talk about facts and then in the next message talk about 'leaks'. Can you quote some here?

Here are the unequivocal facts:

7 August 2019 - Mickey to be removed as coach. 'After the unanimous decision of the committee that it was time for new leadership and a fresh approach". So you're wrong, the committee was unanimous is agreeing Arthur did not continue - basically Misbah recommended Mickey no longer continue.

https://wisden.com/stories/international-cricket/pakistan-head-coach-mickey-arthur/amp

15 August 2019 - Misbah given responsibility to lead training camp. Article clearly states 'When the PCB decided not to renew the contracts of head coach Mickey Arthur and his entire coaching staff, there was some media speculation that Misbah could be given the top job'. So already rumours of Misbah being the coach and real responsibility being given to Misbah.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/...in-coaching-staff-vacuum-1197655?platform=amp

15 August 2019 - The day Mickey's tenure officially finished and after this, the PCB started to advertise for the role officially.

21 August 2019 - Misbah denies he's in the running to be the coach "I haven't applied for the coaching role and any media reports to the contrary are rumours'. Its been 6 days since the coaching position was open and rumours had been circulating for a while about his appointment.

https://wisden.com/stories/international-cricket/misbah-ul-haq-pakistan-job/amp

26 August 2019 - Misbah officially applies to the head coach position. "Its interesting to see my name mentioned, but I only made the decision today. I am applying fully aware that the competition will be tough and there will be a few more very competent and highly qualified people applying".

4 Sept 2019 - Misbah becomes coach and chief selector.

Where does it say that Misbah gave a favourable review? Anyone with a brain can see that time timeline of events and how it SCREAMS conflict of interest. I posted facts and sources, please do the same or accept you are biased.

You yourself answered my question lol

Initially he was not being considered after the job search was done and they couldn't find one was he given the job.

Leading training camp was temporary.

Also it doesn't say misbah recommended arthur be fired. However I followed the leaks and there were reports that said misbah wanted Arthur to continue

 

[Major]

Which episode was this?

Today's post match, the segment was askthepavilion

 

[Major]

What you see above in bold is irrelevant.

Misbah is educated, albeit having graduated from a third rate institution. He knew that accepting the role as Head Coach was a clear and obvious conflict of interest.

If he had any shred of dignity and credibility, he wouldn't take it because he didn't have any relevant experience nor did he have the qualifications to be putting himself forward for the role.

It's a shameless thing to do and you're defending the indefensible.

You can't go around condemning Wasim Akram for taking cocaine and then go out of your way to defend Misbah for what he did.

If you're going to take the moral high ground, be consistent.

I don't know why you insulting another person's degree. He came from a background with no father and had no self finance his education and still got a degree which is not fake but real.

Also for the experience part, pcb gave the advertisement, misbah fell under the criteria. If misbah did not this matter could had been taken to court.

Any got hiring to be done, he needs to fall under the job criteria if not you can be sued in Pakistan

Did misbah take cocaine here? Now you just want to hate for the same

 

[Forum363]

You yourself answered my question lol

Initially he was not being considered after the job search was done and they couldn't find one was he given the job.

Leading training camp was temporary.

Also it doesn't say misbah recommended arthur be fired. However I followed the leaks and there were reports that said misbah wanted Arthur to continue

I provided evidence in the form of articles. Can you show me some articles where Misbah wanted Arthur to continue? You told me to get my facts right and stop making things up so now its your turn.

So the rumours that Misbah was being considered for head coach role, and the FACT that he was given a position in leading the training camp means nothing, but some rumours that he backed Mickey is your whole basis? Try and think logically for a moment, we are intelligent adults.

He always had the intention to get the role, and it was agreed in the back end. Every person knew that so no one applied because it was a farce. The only reputable person who applied was Dean Jones I believe, and he was embarrassed / not properly communicated to.

 

[TheSultan]

This is not even a discussion. Misbah was on the committee that UNANIMOUSLY recommended the removal of the existing coach.

Misbah within weeks applied for the job.

Massive conflict of interest

 

[Forum363]

This is not even a discussion. Misbah was on the committee that UNANIMOUSLY recommended the removal of the existing coach.

Misbah within weeks applied for the job.

Massive conflict of interest

But Major's logic is 'Noooo there were some rumours that Misbah backed Mickey and he only applied after a few days so that means no one else as 'experienced' or as 'qualified' as him could be found.'

I mean, I know pakistan have had qualified well reputed international coaches before and after Misbah - but Major is absolutely certain that in those 5/6 days, there was no one who wanted the job and Misbah was begrudgingly able to stand up and save the country.

 

[muqarrab]

Pavilion

Could you share link with timestamp?

 

[TheSultan]

But Major's logic is 'Noooo there were some rumours that Misbah backed Mickey and he only applied after a few days so that means no one else as 'experienced' or as 'qualified' as him could be found.'

I mean, I know pakistan have had qualified well reputed international coaches before and after Misbah - but Major is absolutely certain that in those 5/6 days, there was no one who wanted the job and Misbah was begrudgingly able to stand up and save the country.

Yup, just as he begrudgingly and reluctantly took the captaincy in 2010 to do us all a big favour to save our reputation, give us all some respect blah blah blah

 

[Savak]

The PCB Cricket Committee actually wanted to renew Mickey Arthur for another 2 years. However the PTI Govt over ruled the PCB Cricket Committee and issued instructions to the PCB to replace Mickey Arthur and Sarfaraz and to replace Mickey Arthur with Misbah.

However Misbah still had a choice. He knew the entire process was wrong and unethical and he was not the right fit for the job, but still he chose to shamelessly accept it which is consistent with his jee hazuri, compromising, yes man captaincy.

 

[Rana]

The PCB Cricket Committee actually wanted to renew Mickey Arthur for another 2 years. However the PTI Govt over ruled the PCB Cricket Committee and issued instructions to the PCB to replace Mickey Arthur and Sarfaraz and to replace Mickey Arthur with Misbah.

However Misbah still had a choice. He knew the entire process was wrong and unethical and he was not the right fit for the job, but still he chose to shamelessly accept it which is consistent with his jee hazuri, compromising, yes man captaincy.

Unethical moves result in unethical directions

Misbah’s appointment was unethical

Misbah removing Sarfaraz as the T20i captain was unethical

Misbah doing everything in his power to make Rizwan work was unethical

Now it’s all coming back to haunt us! Everyone can forget… I will not!

 

[Forum363]

The PCB Cricket Committee actually wanted to renew Mickey Arthur for another 2 years. However the PTI Govt over ruled the PCB Cricket Committee and issued instructions to the PCB to replace Mickey Arthur and Sarfaraz and to replace Mickey Arthur with Misbah.

However Misbah still had a choice. He knew the entire process was wrong and unethical and he was not the right fit for the job, but still he chose to shamelessly accept it which is consistent with his jee hazuri, compromising, yes man captaincy.

Disagree. He’s not a yes man.

He’s an emotional man with a grudge about being looked over for so long, who got a lucky break when the spot fixing saga happened. He exercised his power and wanted more and more. He actively tried to teach others a lesson and make youngsters suffer because of his treatment.

Along with Younis Khan and Waqas Younis, he was a very talented player who achieved a lot for Pakistan but all three are toxic horrible individuals who should be nowhere near the management of Pakistan cricket.

 

[aukhan]

My heart was in my mouth. Thank God Misbah is nowhere near our current setup.

 

[Forum363]

I provided evidence in the form of articles. Can you show me some articles where Misbah wanted Arthur to continue? You told me to get my facts right and stop making things up so now its your turn.

So the rumours that Misbah was being considered for head coach role, and the FACT that he was given a position in leading the training camp means nothing, but some rumours that he backed Mickey is your whole basis? Try and think logically for a moment, we are intelligent adults.

He always had the intention to get the role, and it was agreed in the back end. Every person knew that so no one applied because it was a farce. The only reputable person who applied was Dean Jones I believe, and he was embarrassed / not properly communicated to.

[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] still waiting for your evidence / articles as I provided since you asked me to show some facts.

 

[Major]

im not bothering to get in this discussion its waste of time.

I have said this before and say this again.

Committee never fired Arthur, Misbah infact gave him favorable review, you can find threads on this on pp. Im not gonna waste time searching for these things because no matter what it wont convince you, so waste of time.

Arthur got fired, pcb did hunt for coach and than when they didnt get anyone suitable, the top management said lets try Misbah and than Misbah applied.

You even self posted the time line of events aswell.


But i understand you wont change your opinion, you will continue to spread lies even after Waseem has said on pavilion last night. If you cant even trust that, than there is nothing that can be said further as its a waste of time just arguing over the same topic where you will be rigid with what you want to believe in.

 

[Major]

The PCB Cricket Committee actually wanted to renew Mickey Arthur for another 2 years. However the PTI Govt over ruled the PCB Cricket Committee and issued instructions to the PCB to replace Mickey Arthur and Sarfaraz and to replace Mickey Arthur with Misbah.

However Misbah still had a choice. He knew the entire process was wrong and unethical and he was not the right fit for the job, but still he chose to shamelessly accept it which is consistent with his jee hazuri, compromising, yes man captaincy.

savak is the biggest Misbah critic around here, but look even he agrees that the committee was in favor to renew Arthur.

And if this is not enough to believe than no point in arguing

 

[Forum363]

im not bothering to get in this discussion its waste of time.

I have said this before and say this again.

Committee never fired Arthur, Misbah infact gave him favorable review, you can find threads on this on pp. Im not gonna waste time searching for these things because no matter what it wont convince you, so waste of time.

Arthur got fired, pcb did hunt for coach and than when they didnt get anyone suitable, the top management said lets try Misbah and than Misbah applied.

You even self posted the time line of events aswell.


But i understand you wont change your opinion, you will continue to spread lies even after Waseem has said on pavilion last night. If you cant even trust that, than there is nothing that can be said further as its a waste of time just arguing over the same topic where you will be rigid with what you want to believe in.

Thats disappointing because I took the time to research and back up what I said, as you suggested. You now think its a waste of time to find any evidence to back up what your narrative is.

What makes Wasim's comment trust worthy but the comment of the PCB chairman, as well as multiple articles and news outlets untrustworthy?

 

[ZaidTR]

Misbah should stay away from cricket

 

[Major]

Thats disappointing because I took the time to research and back up what I said, as you suggested. You now think its a waste of time to find any evidence to back up what your narrative is.

What makes Wasim's comment trust worthy but the comment of the PCB chairman, as well as multiple articles and news outlets untrustworthy?

so a person himself saying is not trustworthy but your assumptions are?

seriously? Like i said no matter what, you will believe what you want to believe even after Waseem himself has answered this question. Waste of time.

You did your research not to get the actual answer, but to feed your own bias, thus, wasting your time

 

[Forum363]

so a person himself saying is not trustworthy but your assumptions are?

seriously? Like i said no matter what, you will believe what you want to believe even after Waseem himself has answered this question. Waste of time.

You did your research not to get the actual answer, but to feed your own bias, thus, wasting your time

You’re not understanding.

Wasim said something. PCB chairman said the opposite something. Himself. How is that irrelevant?

 

[daytrader]

The Pavilion boys are up in celebrations today! All of them seem genuinely happy

 

[hitthestump]

The Pavilion boys are up in celebrations today! All of them seem genuinely happy

Would be good for Wasim to start by retracting some of the classless comments he made about Babar Azam.

Babar is definitively a superior captain to Wasim, therefore Wasim shouldn't really comment on that aspect.