What's new

Riyadh, Beijing mull using yuan instead of dollar for oil trade

MenInG

PakPassion Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 2, 2004
Runs
217,977
Riyadh is in active talks with Beijing to trade some of its oil sales to China in yuan, Wall Street Journal quoted sources familiar with the matter as saying, a move that would dent the US dollar’s dominance of the global petroleum market and mark another shift by the world’s top crude exporter toward Asia.

The talks between the countries over yuan-priced oil contracts have accelerated this year as the Saudis have grown increasingly unhappy with decades-old US security commitments to defend the kingdom, the WSJ report said.

The Saudis are angry over the US’s lack of support for their intervention in the Yemen civil war, and over the Biden administration’s attempt to strike a deal with Iran over its nuclear programme. Saudi officials have said they were also shocked by the hasty US withdrawal from Afghanistan last year.

China buys more than 25% of the oil that Saudi Arabia exports. If priced in yuan, those sales would boost the standing of China’s currency.

It would be a profound shift for Saudi Arabia to price even some of its roughly 6.2 million barrels a day of crude exports in anything other than dollars.

On Monday, the WSJ reported that Saudi Arabia has invited Chinese President Xi Jinping to visit the kingdom in a trip that could happen as soon as May.

The visit could help the kingdom deepen its ties with Beijing at a time of strained relations with Washington.

Since US President Joe Biden took office in January 2021, the strategic partnership between Saudi Arabia, the world's top oil exporter, and the United States has been tested by Riyadh's human rights record, particularly in light of the war in Yemen.

In an interview with The Atlantic published earlier this month, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman said he did not care whether Biden misunderstood things about him.

Saudi Arabia is planning to replicate the warm reception it gave to former US president Donald Trump in 2017 when he visited the kingdom on his first trip abroad as president, the Journal report said.

"The crown prince and Xi are close friends and both understand that there is huge potential for stronger ties," the report quoted a Saudi official as saying. "It is not just 'They buy oil from us and we buy weapons from them'."

The Saudi government and China's foreign ministry did not immediately respond to requests for comment from Reuters.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2348098/riyadh-beijing-mull-using-yuan-instead-of-dollar-for-oil-trade
 
This is arguably bigger than the Ukraine conflict right now.

Saudis and UAE ignored Bidens telephone call.

Although the 'Royals' were installed by Brits and supported by Americans, they have a lust for wealth now. It seems they are moving towards Russia & China.

This could be the beginning of the end of the petrodollar. If so , its stupid to hold dollars now, sell them and buy hard assets.
 
This IS the beginning of the end for the Petrodollar and USD dominance.

There is no point in claiming the USD is the world’s reserve currency when Amreeka decides who can use it.
 
This IS the beginning of the end for the Petrodollar and USD dominance.

There is no point in claiming the USD is the world’s reserve currency when Amreeka decides who can use it.

US Federal Resever last year for the first time spoke of a basket of global reserve currencies inc the digital $. They know what is coming. Sadly the masses in the US are too ignorant of this, have no clue of decisions made by the governments against Russia will come back to bite them......not a wasp bite but a shark bite.
 
I am not expert on currencies but for a Currency to become the lingua franca of international trade it must have a consistent value and be able to be openly traded without manipulation. Will the Yuan be accepted as such. Any experts out there?
 
If India Russia China UAE Saudi decide to trade in local currency, and also decide on using each other's currency freely, it would be a Massive deal.

India is buying Russian oil via Rupee.

Now imagine a scenario, this same rupee could be used by russia to buy from china and then China pays this rupee to buy from India.

Or Saudi sell oil to China for Yuan. Then use that Yuan to buy material from India. India uses the Yuan yo buy from Russia and Russia then uses it to buy from China.

Same arrangement for Rouble,Rial and Dirham.

That will break the Dollar strangle hold.
 
I am not expert on currencies but for a Currency to become the lingua franca of international trade it must have a consistent value and be able to be openly traded without manipulation. Will the Yuan be accepted as such. Any experts out there?

Well time has come for countries to trade in local currencies. What is the use of USD when its usage can be restricted by US.
 
US Federal Resever last year for the first time spoke of a basket of global reserve currencies inc the digital $. They know what is coming. Sadly the masses in the US are too ignorant of this, have no clue of decisions made by the governments against Russia will come back to bite them......not a wasp bite but a shark bite.

USD is the most manipulated currency in the world. It's created out of thin air and the Federal Reserve now refuse to publish the M3 value. This is why the Fed are against Crypto currencies, cos cannot be manipulated in the same way.

I just hope Gold/Silver makes a comeback as money.
 
Nothing on any other Western media?

If true, which I'd be very surprised at, would be astonishing and a big blow to USD.
 
I doubt this will happen

Because it will be the end of house of saud

They only need to remember saddam and gaddafi who tried to sell oil via gold currency, usa levelled the country.

The gcc arabs are in the pockets of zionists it was the British and zionists who bought them into power as puppets and created their fake Emirates.
 
Nothing on any other Western media?

If true, which I'd be very surprised at, would be astonishing and a big blow to USD.

The Dollar would fall in value and inflation would become a big problem in America. Quantitative easing would become much more difficult and crisis could become depressions. A lot at stake for the Americans.
 
I expect fomented trouble in SA & UAE in short order leading to a regime change.
 
I doubt this will happen

Because it will be the end of house of saud

They only need to remember saddam and gaddafi who tried to sell oil via gold currency, usa levelled the country.

The gcc arabs are in the pockets of zionists it was the British and zionists who bought them into power as puppets and created their fake Emirates.

ATM the House of Saud is free to buy anything from Football clubs to wine Chateaus, but if they go with another master, then as the Russian oligarchs found to their cost things will become difficult. Suddenly the human rights abuses will become big news
 
ATM the House of Saud is free to buy anything from Football clubs to wine Chateaus, but if they go with another master, then as the Russian oligarchs found to their cost things will become difficult. Suddenly the human rights abuses will become big news

Seems like that and this maybe their bargaining chip with America to give it more force.
 
USD is the most manipulated currency in the world. It's created out of thin air and the Federal Reserve now refuse to publish the M3 value. This is why the Fed are against Crypto currencies, cos cannot be manipulated in the same way.

I just hope Gold/Silver makes a comeback as money.

And who officially has most gold reserves currently?
 
ATM the House of Saud is free to buy anything from Football clubs to wine Chateaus, but if they go with another master, then as the Russian oligarchs found to their cost things will become difficult. Suddenly the human rights abuses will become big news

All this works only if rest of the world is interested in such US plans.
 
All this works only if rest of the world is interested in such US plans.

Lol BJP supporters completely backing Russia is funny to see, I see it on FB too the blind support is remarkable when India is economically so engulfed with West.
 
I doubt this will happen

Because it will be the end of house of saud

They only need to remember saddam and gaddafi who tried to sell oil via gold currency, usa levelled the country.

The gcc arabs are in the pockets of zionists it was the British and zionists who bought them into power as puppets and created their fake Emirates.

Sure, the issue is puppets wont remain loyal forever if their wealth starts to decline. If China, Russia, India and other are on board with their plans, the US cant do much esp since its currency will be in tatters, meaning no money for wars. Besides the US already know this is coming, see what the Fed has been stating for a couple of years now. The Ukraine conflict has only sped this up.
 
Lol BJP supporters completely backing Russia is funny to see, I see it on FB too the blind support is remarkable when India is economically so engulfed with West.

Russia has helped India and Indian security os enmeshed with Russia.

Do you even know how much Soviet and Russia has helped India. It was only in George W Bush era did Us started a strategic partnership with India, else the US policy was very anti Indian.


Economy is secondary to security. Ukraine has learnt that lesson.
 
The rest of the World isn't to them as W Europe. Look at where the Russians and the other guys spend the money and its in London,Paris,Rome, Madrid etc.

If they are planning to ban half the world, whats the use?

What stops a Dubai or the new saudi city or chinese resorts or Indian islands from becoming the next hub? If there's money and demand, someone will supply.
 
Sure, the issue is puppets wont remain loyal forever if their wealth starts to decline. If China, Russia, India and other are on board with their plans, the US cant do much esp since its currency will be in tatters, meaning no money for wars. Besides the US already know this is coming, see what the Fed has been stating for a couple of years now. The Ukraine conflict has only sped this up.

It's not just about wealth but access to it. The West can freeze anyone's assets as they please. More than half of Russia's foreign reserves are in the West, frozen, no access, forcing Russia to default when Russia has the cash to pay.

Free markets my backside.
 
It's not just about wealth but access to it. The West can freeze anyone's assets as they please. More than half of Russia's foreign reserves are in the West, frozen, no access, forcing Russia to default when Russia has the cash to pay.

Free markets my backside.

100%

People are in cuckoo land if they think UK and US can take others money and they wont hit back.

Imagine if there is hyperinflation in US. The public there arent used to tough times. They have created enough divide (BLM/Trump) we could really see a lot violence in a land with the most guns.
 
If India Russia China UAE Saudi decide to trade in local currency, and also decide on using each other's currency freely, it would be a Massive deal.

India is buying Russian oil via Rupee.

Now imagine a scenario, this same rupee could be used by russia to buy from china and then China pays this rupee to buy from India.

Or Saudi sell oil to China for Yuan. Then use that Yuan to buy material from India. India uses the Yuan yo buy from Russia and Russia then uses it to buy from China.

Same arrangement for Rouble,Rial and Dirham.

That will break the Dollar strangle hold.
Hey bro any closer to using the rupee outside India? Or still a pipe dream?
 
18 countries have agreed to trade with India in Rupee.

 
Back
Top