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Former Pakistan cricket captain Salman Butt has questioned the PCB for not providing opportunities to top performers of domestic cricket in Pakistan Super League (PSL) and other major events.

Talking to The Nation, Butt said: “I was second top scorer in domestic cricket last year, but no franchise bothered to pick me in the PSL draft and same happened this year too. I was in gold category and once again, I was badly ignored. I don’t know why such treatment is being given to me. Last year, I was at the peak this year, although I am not performing like I did last year, even then my performances are better than others.

“I can’t say or comment when the PCB would consider me again for the national duty and I can’t ask or seek explanation from them. My job is to perform, which I have been doing sincerely and dedication. But one thing is quite clear that the PCB has to keep close check and ensure the domestic cricket top performers must be included in the PSL, so that they may focus on improving their games. If they are ignored in the same way and their efforts failed to attract the selectors, it is quite sure the talent will get wasted.

“I am hopeful that the PCB and chief selector will provide me with the opportunity. I can assure that I will not disappoint my fans and selectors. I know I have lot of cricket left in me and I am ready to serve Pakistan cricket in the best possible fashion,” Butt concluded.

Sharing his views, Test discarded Kamran Akmal, who is in great form, said that he is shocked that Pakistan U-19 team lost against associate members Afghanistan and that too in such manner, which is hard to digest. “The U-19 players are not able to beat the likes of Afghanistan. It was highly upsetting that twice the national U-19 team failed to even score 100 runs, which clearly indicates the basic flaws in U-19 system,” he said.

“It also shows that U-19 cricket is not being taken seriously. Playing 4 or 5 matches in a year is not enough, and instead they need to play at least 8 to 10 international matches. Unless proper attention is paid to U-19 cricket, we will never get genuine fresh talent,” he added.

Kamran said he feels that school, college and club level T20 tournaments should be completely banned and only the PCB should conduct the National T20 events like the one presently going on in Rawalpindi. “Proper cricket must be promoted and only red ball is the way of producing fresh talent.” The wicketkeeper batsman also emphasized upon giving fair chances of top performers of domestic cricket in the PSL. “My performances are in front of everybody and I can only say that my job is to perform with gloves and willow and it is the job of the selectors to decide about me.”

He said the time is high when the PCB should focus on domestic cricket as the domestic cricketers are not being given the opportunities, which they really deserve. “I am working on my fitness and proving that I am ready to serve Pakistan cricket. I am ready to serve my country and I will deliver, if given chance. The next few series are very tough and will be stern test of Sarfraz Ahmed’s captaincy and leadership qualities. He has to take best out of each and every player, as Test cricket and that too against top test playing nations and in their backyard is never easy. I hope Sarfraz and coach Mickey Arthur will deliver for the country,” Kamran concluded.

http://nation.com.pk/21-Nov-2017/salman-butt-kamran-keen-to-make-strong-comeback
 
God i hope these two are kept away from the national team.
 
Kami shoudl forget to make international comeback . Sarfraz is here to stay for atleast 3 years .thats end of kami
he cant play as batsmen .
Salmad deserves teh treatment he is getting and i dont think any PSL franchise will risk including him .besides he is a nothing T20 player
 
Thanks for the memories between 2004-2009 but both of you now need to retire asap!
 
Kamran might still make it to t20i team. Not in favour of Salman Butt. Imam, Umar Amin are already in the line for LOI's along with Fakhar, Azhar and Shehzad(he has been dropped not discarded).
Salman Butt was never a good Test player tbh.
 
Both of these fixers should just play domestics. There is no need to them when you have better options available.
 
May be direct entry to national team is too complicated even for Ul Haq - how can he insert these two in a LO side that’s No. 1 ranked in T20 and has won 8 straight ODI (11 of last 13) including the CT Final?

I think, Ul Haq should grant them some A tours at this tender age, may be against the Nepal or Kenya team - after they hit a 50 each in international (A tour is also International cricket), it’ll be smooth to drop couple of younger players from squad.
 
PSL came by and everyone and their grandmothers are lining up for free handouts. Pathetic. Glad the 'deserving' tag isn't the only requirement for being part of PSL.
 
As long as these guys are in contention for the national side, tabdeeli nahi aayegi
 
Cannot actually believe these two have the nerve to run their mouths after the way they've both disgraced their nation. No sharam whatsoever.
 
Salman Butt can never make comeback especially after Inzi introduced his nephew who has ended his only chance of making comeback in test. I'm sure Imam will be the next opener in tests.

Kamran on the other hand does have a strong chance. Pakistan's opening pair is unsettled.

Fakher is a hack well kind of and Imam is a test level batsman who will get exposed on his next trip. With Ahmed Shehzad already failing his comebacks, there are not many options around. Hafeez is not good enough to play as a opener these days either..after his action getting banned he might find it hard to stay in the team.

Adding Kamran's good batting form and his stroke making ability and considering lack of options around you can say he is not that far away. It depends a lot on his PSL performance though. PSL is the only domestic event that gets good coverage from Pakistani media and fans and if he does make it count then there is no doubt he could be in the next world cup plans. After all world cup is just a year away.
 
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Salman Butt can never make comeback especially after Inzi introduced his nephew who has ended his only chance of making comeback in test. I'm sure Imam will be the next opener in tests.

Kamran on the other hand does have a strong chance. Pakistan's opening pair is unsettled.

Fakher is a hack well kind of and Imam is a test level batsman who will get exposed on his next trip. With Ahmed Shehzad already failing his comebacks, there are not many options around. Hafeez is not good enough to play as a opener these days either..after his action getting banned he might find it hard to stay in the team.

Adding Kamran's good batting form and his stroke making ability and considering lack of options around you can say he is not that far away. It depends a lot on his PSL performance though. PSL is the only domestic event that gets good coverage from Pakistani media and fans and if he does make it count then there is no doubt he could be in the next world cup plans. After all world cup is just a year away.

What’s your ideal top 4?

Kamran Akmal
Adnan Akmal
Babar Azam
Umar Akmal

?????
 
You mean the unpleasant memories of match fixing, right?

Make no mistake - despite Salman Butt's crimes, he was a fine ODI opener for us during those years.

He toyed with the Indian, SL and Bangladeshi bowling and was a beast for us in Asia during those years.

Yes people will point to his poor Test record, poor ODI record away from home and what not but since he play most of the time in Asia - his record in asian conditions have to hold more weight.

Similar situation with Kammy - he remains one of our finest WK batsman and his test hundred vs India in Karachi 2006 and in Kolkota 2007 remains the stuff of legend. He had the knack for performing when the chips were down and so was a tremendously clutch player. Yes he lacked consistency but you can't have everything I guess... His batting at 7 or 8 during the Inzy/Woolmer era was vital for us...
 
the question is . are Pakistan in such a crisis that we need to call 36 year old to T20 team? and for what there is no t20 wc around the 50 over wc we have one full year left . why not give more chances to upcoming players
Farhan,umar amin should be in . not kami
and he cant keep so are you gonna watch comedy of kami in outfield ?
 
Make no mistake - despite Salman Butt's crimes, he was a fine ODI opener for us during those years.

He toyed with the Indian, SL and Bangladeshi bowling and was a beast for us in Asia during those years.

Yes people will point to his poor Test record, poor ODI record away from home and what not but since he play most of the time in Asia - his record in asian conditions have to hold more weight.

Similar situation with Kammy - he remains one of our finest WK batsman and his test hundred vs India in Karachi 2006 and in Kolkota 2007 remains the stuff of legend. He had the knack for performing when the chips were down and so was a tremendously clutch player. Yes he lacked consistency but you can't have everything I guess... His batting at 7 or 8 during the Inzy/Woolmer era was vital for us...

Our finest WK batsman? He was a terrible batsman and atrocious wicketkeeper. The fact that he only averaged in the 20s despite playing hundreds of matches shows this, you can't argue this point by simply saying he lacked consistency. Hi technique, footwork, fitness, work ethic and general demeanor was terrible.

Please can you explain how the 2006 innings remains 'the stuff of legends'. It was a very good innings at best. Extremely extremely biased to hype it beyond that which I have seen a lot of people do.
 
Plz just leave us alone. Ply your trade in international leagues and forget the green shirt. These two are a disgrace and represent one of the worst recent pakistan player generations we've seen.
 
Salman Butt only has himself to blame really. His last T20wc was probably the highlite of his career in which he really did propel as an agressive opener. Could have been a great T20 player
 
Make no mistake - despite Salman Butt's crimes, he was a fine ODI opener for us during those years.

He toyed with the Indian, SL and Bangladeshi bowling and was a beast for us in Asia during those years.

Yes people will point to his poor Test record, poor ODI record away from home and what not but since he play most of the time in Asia - his record in asian conditions have to hold more weight.

Similar situation with Kammy - he remains one of our finest WK batsman and his test hundred vs India in Karachi 2006 and in Kolkota 2007 remains the stuff of legend. He had the knack for performing when the chips were down and so was a tremendously clutch player. Yes he lacked consistency but you can't have everything I guess... His batting at 7 or 8 during the Inzy/Woolmer era was vital for us...

No reply to my post? Why do kamran fans never engage in discussion?
 
Our finest WK batsman? He was a terrible batsman and atrocious wicketkeeper. The fact that he only averaged in the 20s despite playing hundreds of matches shows this, you can't argue this point by simply saying he lacked consistency. Hi technique, footwork, fitness, work ethic and general demeanor was terrible.

Please can you explain how the 2006 innings remains 'the stuff of legends'. It was a very good innings at best. Extremely extremely biased to hype it beyond that which I have seen a lot of people do.

Terrible is a pretty subjective word but Kammy’s record in Asia was pretty good given the position he batted in (no. 7/8)

It was not just the Karachi knock but also the Mohali 2005, Kolkata 2007, Lahore 2005 and Port Elizabeth 2007 knocks that made him valuable during Inzy/Woolmer’s era.

He had a pretty poor record overseas but given we played and still play most of our cricket in Asia - it was still acceptable at the time.
 
Terrible is a pretty subjective word but Kammy’s record in Asia was pretty good given the position he batted in (no. 7/8)

It was not just the Karachi knock but also the Mohali 2005, Kolkata 2007, Lahore 2005 and Port Elizabeth 2007 knocks that made him valuable during Inzy/Woolmer’s era.

He had a pretty poor record overseas but given we played and still play most of our cricket in Asia - it was still acceptable at the time.

I mean, we can use a fairly OBJECTIVE measure to determine whether he was terrible and that is the number of runs he scored, ie what he was being paid to do for his country. You mentioned we played most of our cricket in Asia, but more than half the innings kami played were outside Asia and he averaged ...20 runs! Yes 20. That is the same as Brett Lee. And before anyone makes the argument that he is an allrounder... his atrocious keeping lost us many matches, it was consistently said that he was in the team for his batting and that while there were far better keepers in pakistan, none could match his batting prowess.

True he performed better in Asia but the three innings in Asia you mentioned were all high scoring draws with very high run rates aka on complete roads. So i fail to see how he was a valuable source member of the team based on that.

In summary, terrible most of the time, but played sime big innings on flat pitches in asia which improved his overall record to very poor at best.
 
40 off 23 in semi final as captain - decent performance.
 
So apparently Salman thinks that it is his right to be selected By a franchise ? Franchises select who they like WHO THE HELL IS HE TO Question Selection
 
I was badly ignored. I don’t know why such treatment is being given to me.

Mujhay kyon nikala!! what is wrong with lahoris??

Listen Butt, your a fraud and cheat. You were our captain and you disgraced the whole country. WHy should we select you and remind ourselves and the world about those events??
 
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Mujhay kyon nikala!! what is wrong with lahoris??

Listen Butt, your a fraud and cheat. You were our captain and you disgraced the whole country. WHy should we select you and remind ourselves and the world about those events??

You've put it so succinctly, yup, why would we want to reopen old wounds that have taken a long time to heal.
 
Salman Butt another good innings 62* off 59!
 
Mujhay kyon nikala!! what is wrong with lahoris??

Listen Butt, your a fraud and cheat. You were our captain and you disgraced the whole country. WHy should we select you and remind ourselves and the world about those events??

Why bring Lahore into it? A drop of oil in the river doesn't pollute it.

Anyways, we are great without Butt and Kamran, they absolutely do not deserve any more chances
 
Salman Butt another good innings 62* off 59!

Extremely selfish knock. A strike rate of less than 150 is unacceptable in T-20 Cricket. Pakistan is still far behind most international teams in ODI and T-20 Cricket.
 
That guy Salman Butt shouldn't be even drafted for domestic T20s - played 59 balls on a belter & his team ended with 5 down for at least 35 short of bare minimum. These innings are like bikini - tells more than it hides, depending on who is watching.

I would have made him carry drinks next match, Ul Haq might say that 62* (59) is a perfect innings for ODI - he was destined to get 100 in between 35th to 38th over and may be 151* by the end of 50 overs.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/HUrQ1QvXkQ">pic.twitter.com/HUrQ1QvXkQ</a></p>— Salman Butt (@im_SalmanButt) <a href="https://twitter.com/im_SalmanButt/status/1029024269429342210?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Butt still hopeful of staging comeback

ISLAMABAD - Former Pakistan captain Salman Butt has said that he is fully fit, motivated and eager to lead his side Wapda for the third year in running in the country’s premier tournament Quaid-e-Azam Trophy commencing tomorrow (Saturday).

Talking to The Nation, Butt said: “I am captaining the side third year in running and leading the side quite well. Total four tournaments are played every year and by the grace of Almighty, we managed to win one final, lost two finals and also played one semifinal. We always finish in top four. We have a balanced squad, which is a blend of youth and experienced and I am hopeful, we will excel and win the title for our department this year as well.”

He said: “I am good shape and form as I have played a few practice matches and my performances was very good. I was also hopeful of staging comeback in the national team after series of top class performances in the last two years, but I don’t know why I was ignored again, reasons best known to PCB and chief selector. But my job is to keep giving my best and to leave the rest on the selectors. It is my utmost desire to represent my country once again.

“I believe in merit only. It is not about favouring someone or even thinking about shortcuts, instead I just demand my genuine selection in the national team. Pakistan team badly needs an experienced opener and being senior batsman, I can provide the green caps much-needed experience at the top of the order. The selectors should think about giving me a chance, which I deserve since long, as I have been giving the best performances for the last two seasons,” he added.

Butt said he personally feels that his dark days are about to end. “Imran Khan has assumed the powers and he knows everything and he will provide justice not only to me but also to all the other deserving athletes, who despite giving their best, not getting chances.”

“I am sure the things will be decided purely on merit. I know the Prime Minister has yet to pick the genuine talent and he can’t do injustice to sportsmen. I am also hopeful that incoming PCB chairman Ehsan Mani will also streamline the things and justice will prevail in all the departments,” he added.

He said domestic cricket is actual cricket of the country. “I am quite sure that new chairman will pay great heed towards improving domestic structure and intruders will be given shut up call, as in the past, especially in the regions, lot of blue-eyed players were given nod of approval, surpassing the genuine talent, which deprived a great number of genuine players of their due right of representing the country at international level.”

“I am hopeful the blue-eyed players and officials will get shut up call and merit will prevail as all the decisions will be made purely on merit and stern action will be taken against those, who had destroyed the careers of a number of players. I believe that without taking drastic steps and implementing tough rules and laws, there is no hope of any betterment in Pakistan cricket. I request Imran Khan to check the injustices and provide justice to all,” Butt concluded.

https://nation.com.pk/31-Aug-2018/butt-still-hopeful-of-staging-comeback
 
Salman Butt scored 129 of 273 balls today, I still think he has no chance for an International comeback.
 
Kamran said he feels that school, college and club level T20 tournaments should be completely banned and only the PCB should conduct the National T20 events like the one presently going on in Rawalpindi

Is that not the most dreadful idea anyone's ever had? What's he got against school and College level T20 tournaments?
 
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Was never a Test or T20 batsmen.

But he was turning out to be a pretty decent opener for us in ODIs.

Atrocious fielder though.
 
Injustice with Salman Butt

I know the majority of Pakistani fans will not like this thread. But the truth is that Salman has been unfairly treated. His past cannot be held against him. If that was the case, Amir who committed the same crime should not have been allowed back.

Salman has performed very consistently in all formats in domestic season from the last three years. On several occasions, he has been the highest run scorer. Before his ban, he was really coming into his own and becoming world-class. He has a decent technique and is a very classsy batsmen. He deserves to open instead of Imam in tests. He will have that added hunger to makeup for lost time and prove people wrong.

I believe he will be a solid addition to our woeful test batting lineup. We have to be fair, and allow him to return. Because his performances have been great.
 
I know the majority of Pakistani fans will not like this thread. But the truth is that Salman has been unfairly treated. His past cannot be held against him. If that was the case, Amir who committed the same crime should not have been allowed back.

Salman has performed very consistently in all formats in domestic season from the last three years. On several occasions, he has been the highest run scorer. Before his ban, he was really coming into his own and becoming world-class. He has a decent technique and is a very classsy batsmen. He deserves to open instead of Imam in tests. He will have that added hunger to makeup for lost time and prove people wrong.

I believe he will be a solid addition to our woeful test batting lineup. We have to be fair, and allow him to return. Because his performances have been great.

Please stop. I can only assume you are a relative of Salman Butt. Please don't compare him to Amir.

One was the ring leader and captain. The other wasn't. So yes, of course they will be treated differently. A mob boss won't be the one to pull the trigger but he has the most blood on his hands cause he ordered it.

I rather have Imam score 10 ducks than let this cancer back into the team.
 
Please stop. I can only assume you are a relative of Salman Butt. Please don't compare him to Amir.

One was the ring leader and captain. The other wasn't. So yes, of course they will be treated differently. A mob boss won't be the one to pull the trigger but he has the most blood on his hands cause he ordered it.

I rather have Imam score 10 ducks than let this cancer back into the team.

Well said, couldn't agree more. We should be looking to build the team for the future. No need to fall back on these loosers particularly KA. he always lacked the temperament and attitude and I have yet to see anything that doesn't support that. All Akmal brother's are pure talk.

As for Salman Butt, he led the corruption from the top knowingly and willingly and his actions should have consequences.

As a nation we should push PCB to improve cricket at the grassroots otherwise it will be the same ol..same ol in the next decade, if Pakistan cricket survives that long
 
I know the majority of Pakistani fans will not like this thread. But the truth is that Salman has been unfairly treated. His past cannot be held against him. If that was the case, Amir who committed the same crime should not have been allowed back.

Salman has performed very consistently in all formats in domestic season from the last three years. On several occasions, he has been the highest run scorer. Before his ban, he was really coming into his own and becoming world-class. He has a decent technique and is a very classsy batsmen. He deserves to open instead of Imam in tests. He will have that added hunger to makeup for lost time and prove people wrong.

I believe he will be a solid addition to our woeful test batting lineup. We have to be fair, and allow him to return. Because his performances have been great.

The Captain instigating corruption in his team and you call it unfair treatment. What a drreadful post!
 
Salman Butt should have received life ban from all levels of cricket. What he did as captain is inexcusable and shamed an entire nation.
No selector with an ounce of pride will ever consider him for national selection. It is only leniency and mercy that he is still even allowed to play domestic
 
It is time these two like Asif and Kaneria accept their career is over. Would save them a lot of time.
 
The thing is he has served his ban for that crime. We cannot keep punishing him for that crime. It doesn’t matter what you guys think should be the appropriate punishment. iCC is the mandate and they’ve given the deserved punishment. Now he is like any other domestic cricketer. If you look at his performances, his one of the most deserving.
 
[MENTION=146498]Sher Khan[/MENTION]

I am with you on this.


Salman has paid heavily for spot fixing as Captain of Pakistan team.


He was rightly banned.


He got punished.


Pakistan's top wicket takers were known match fixers and just got away as they were superstars.


This guy Salman paid heavily for his crime+sin.



Keyboard angels won't agree.
 
2 more years I hope he doesn't get in the team, that should see us over the line. Shouldn't don the shirt again.
I don't understand how the suspended part of his sentence was not enforced as he denied for 70 per cent of his 5 year sentence.
Joke all round
 
There is a huge gap between the standards of our domestic cricket and the international cricket. That is why we are not able to induct the players directly into the Pak team, unless some one comes with skills, and determination.

So the argument that Salman should be allowed because he is playing well at domestic does not really guarantee his success at International level now. We have seen this 1000000 times how our domestic bullies are just mere 3rd grade international cricketer. What KA achieved in WI in 2007 after being domestic bully for so long? He failed miserably, and the one innings where he scored 50, ohh man, that was such a fluke innings with many dropped catches.
 
There is a huge gap between the standards of our domestic cricket and the international cricket. That is why we are not able to induct the players directly into the Pak team, unless some one comes with skills, and determination.

So the argument that Salman should be allowed because he is playing well at domestic does not really guarantee his success at International level now. We have seen this 1000000 times how our domestic bullies are just mere 3rd grade international cricketer. What KA achieved in WI in 2007 after being domestic bully for so long? He failed miserably, and the one innings where he scored 50, ohh man, that was such a fluke innings with many dropped catches.

Ok Sherlock, so what should be the criteria for selection?
 
Salman butt should forget about international call up or psl , when a team CAPTAIN is involved in spot fixing at international level & subsequently banned & jailed too , then there is NO return, don’t know where Salman gets these false hopes from.. it’s been THE END for a while now. Thora domestic khailo or retire ho jao
 
Sad to hear about Kamran and Umar Akmal's mother passing away today. Innanilaihe wainnalahe rajaoon
 
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