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Savitri Devi:"Hitler was an incarnation of Hindu god Vishnu" -promoted by Steve Bannon of Trump fame

Savitri Devi: The mystical fascist being resurrected by the alt-right

Savitri Devi, a mystical admirer of Hitler and a cat-loving devotee of the Aryan myth, seem destined to fade into obscurity after her death 25 years ago. But thanks to the rise of the extreme right, her name and her image now crop up online more and more, writes Maria Margaronis.

In 2012, browsing the website of Greece's Golden Dawn party for an article I was writing, I stumbled on a picture of a woman in a blue silk sari gazing at a bust of Hitler against a blazing sunset sky.

What was this apparently Hindu woman doing on the site of an openly racist party devoted to expelling all foreigners from Greece? I filed her as a curiosity at the back of my mind, until the rising tide of extreme-right politics in Europe and America threw up the name "Savitri Devi" once again.

It isn't hard these days to find discussions of Savitri Devi's books on neo-Nazi web forums, especially The Lightning and the Sun, which expounds the theory that Hitler was an avatar - an incarnation - of the Hindu god Vishnu, and Gold in the Furnace, which urges true believers to trust that National Socialism will rise again. The American extreme-right website Counter-Currents hosts an extensive online archive of her life and work.

Her views are reaching a wider public audience, too, thanks to American alt-right leaders such as Richard Spencer and Steve Bannon, former Trump chief strategist and chair of Breitbart News, who have taken up her account of history as a cyclical battle between good and evil — a theory she shared with other 20th Century mystical fascists.

Dark metal bands and American right-wing radio stations also roar about the Kali Yuga, the Dark Age of Hindu mythology, which Savitri Devi believed that Hitler was once destined to bring to an end.

Who was Savitri Devi, and why are her ideas being resurrected now? Despite the sari and the name she was a European, born Maximiani Portas to an English mother and Greek-Italian father in Lyon in 1905.

"** She learned Indian languages, married a Brahmin, and forged an elaborate synthesis of Nazism and Hindu myth **"

From an early age, she despised all forms of egalitarianism. "A beautiful girl is not equal to an ugly girl," she told an interviewer sent by the Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel in 1978.

Swept up by Greek nationalism, she arrived in Athens in 1923 at the same time as thousands of refugees displaced after Greece's disastrous military campaign in Asia Minor at the end of World War One.

She blamed the Western allies for Greece's humiliation, and for what she saw as the unjustly punitive terms imposed on Germany by the Treaty of Versailles. In Savitri's mind, Greece and Germany were both victims, denied the legitimate aspiration of uniting all their people in one territory. That view, combined with a passionate anti-Semitism which she claimed she learned from the Bible, led her to identify herself early on as a National Socialist.

Hitler was Germany's champion but, she said, his desire to eradicate Europe's Jews and restore the "Aryan race" to its rightful position of power made him her "Fuhrer" too.

In common with anti-Semitic thinkers since the 18th century, Savitri blamed Judeo-Christianity for destroying the glory that was Greece and the Aryans' mythical ancient utopia. In the early 1930s she sailed for India in search of a living version of Europe's pagan past, convinced that the caste system, by forbidding intermarriage, had preserved pure Aryans there. (Former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, who visited India in the 1970s, shared her misconception.)

So unusual was the sight of a European woman travelling fourth class by train that she was placed under surveillance by the British colonial authorities. But Savitri had little to do with the British in India until World War Two, when she passed information she gleaned from them to the Japanese. She learned Indian languages, married a Brahmin (whom she believed to be an Aryan like herself), and forged an elaborate synthesis of Nazism and Hindu myth, in which Hitler was a "man against time" destined to bring about the end of the Kali Yuga and usher in a new golden age of Aryan supremacy.

In Kolkata in the 1930s, Savitri worked for the Hindu Mission, now a quiet neighbourhood shrine but in those days a centre for Hindu nationalist campaigning and missionary activity. The politicisation of India's religious communities under the British had helped to foster the growth of the Hindutva movement, which argued that the Hindus were the true heirs of the Aryans and that India was an essentially Hindu nation.

Savitri offered her services to the Mission's director, Swami Satyananda, who (like many Indians before independence) shared her admiration for Hitler and allowed her to mix Nazi propaganda with her talks on Hindu identity. She travelled the country lecturing in Hindi and Bengali, salting her talks about Aryan values with quotations from Mein Kampf.

In 1945, devastated by the fall of the Third Reich, she returned to Europe to work for its restoration. Her arrival in England is described in her book Long-Whiskers and the Two-Legged Goddess, a children's fable whose heroine is a cat-loving Nazi like herself.

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The heroine, Heliodora, "had no 'human feelings' in the ordinary sense of the word," she wrote. "She had been, from her very childhood, much too profoundly shocked at the behaviour of man towards animals... to have any sympathy for people suffering on account of their being Jews."

Her ashes were laid to rest with full fascist honours, purportedly next to those of American Nazi leader George Lincoln Rockwell

Savitri was always clear that she preferred animals to humans. Like Hitler, she was a lifelong vegetarian. She viewed the world as if from a great distance, caring more for what she saw as the deep patterns of nature than for human lives. Visiting Iceland, she spent two nights on the slopes of Mount Hekla as it erupted. "The original sound of creation is 'Aum'," she wrote. "The volcano says every two or three seconds, 'AUM! AUM! AUM!' And the Earth is trembling under your feet all the time."

In 1948, Savitri managed to enter occupied Germany, where she distributed thousands of pro-Nazi leaflets, bearing the words: "One day we shall rise and triumph again! Hope and wait! Heil Hitler!"

She said years later that she was glad to be arrested by the British occupation authorities because it brought her closer to her jailed Nazi "comrades". During her imprisonment, which was cut short by her husband's intervention through the Indian government, she grew close to a former Belsen wardress condemned as a war criminal, "a beautiful-looking woman, a blonde of about my age." Savitri's sexuality has been the subject of some speculation. Her marriage to Asit Mukherjee was allegedly celibate because they were not of the same caste; the Nazi financier Francoise Dior, niece of the fashion designer, claimed to have been her lover.

In her later years, Savitri Devi returned to India, where she seemed to feel most at home. Living in a flat above a garage on a quiet Delhi street she devoted herself to the neighbourhood cats, going out every morning to feed them bread and milk bedecked in the gold jewellery traditionally worn by married Hindu women.

She died at a friend's house in England in 1982. Her ashes were laid to rest with full fascist honours, purportedly next to those of American Nazi leader George Lincoln Rockwell.

Savitri Devi herself is almost forgotten in India now, but the Hindu nationalism she espoused and helped to promote is in the ascendant, much to the concern of her nephew, the veteran left-wing journalist Sumanta Banerjee.

"In her book A Warning to the Hindus, which came out in 1939, she advised the Hindus to cultivate a 'spirit of organised resistance throughout Hindudom,'" he says. "The targets of this resistance were the Muslims, who were a threat, according to her, to the Hindus. And this is the same fear that is being echoed today."

Hindutva is the official ideology of Prime Minster Narendra Modi's ruling Bharatiya Janata Party, which claims that Muslims and secularists have undermined the strength of the Hindu nation. Though the party's official spokesmen condemn violence, the riots that led to the tearing down of the Babri Mosque at Ayodhya in 1992 and the current waves of attacks - sometimes fatal - by vigilante groups on Muslims and dissenters tell a different story.

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In the US, racism, anti-communism and Christian fundamentalist notions about the impending apocalypse have together prepared the ground for the far right's flirtation with occult Nazism and Hindu prophecies.

And as in India, the traditional ruling majority's fear of losing power has been an effective recruiting tool.

"Since the middle of the Obama administration the single most important factor in the minds of people who joined the Tea Party was the idea that white people were being shoved aside," says researcher and writer Chip Berlet. "The far right and organised white supremacist groups have both been buoyed up by fear among many white citizens in the United States that they're being displaced and humiliated."

Savitri Devi's work forms part of the history of both India's Hindu nationalists and the European and American extreme right. Her flamboyant, eccentric writings contain - unvarnished and uncensored - all their key ideas: that human beings can be divided into "races" which should be kept separate; that certain groups are superior to and more entitled than others; that these groups are under threat; and that the dark times in which we live will only end when they again take power, returning us to a mythical golden age.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-41757047

Interesting read. :13:
 
It is fashionable to discount and throw away everything a person has to say if they liked Hitler. We can just throw the bathwater and look at the beautiful baby this great lady and intellectual has left for us. We need to revive our glorious civilization and need not be apologetic if someone finds a remote link with Hitler.
 
It is fashionable to discount and throw away everything a person has to say if they liked Hitler. We can just throw the bathwater and look at the beautiful baby this great lady and intellectual has left for us. We need to revive our glorious civilization and need not be apologetic if someone finds a remote link with Hitler.
Remote link with Hitler? Going by the article, Hitler's ideas appear to be the centre piece of her philosophy, with Hitler being 'her God incarnated'. And that's why she's now the heroine of the far-right.
 
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Remote link with Hitler? Going by the article, Hitler's ideas appear to be the centre piece of her philosophy, with Hitler being 'her God incarnated'. And that's why she's now the heroine of the far-right.

Such piece of propaganda doesn't cut ice with me. Even if she admired Hitler, I can overlook that as a blip. Read her work if you are interested to develop a better understanding of this great lady. The time of shaming people into silence is gone. The world is just course correcting and these are interesting times.
 
Fascinating stuff. I have often wondered about the link between Hindu culture and the Nazi ideology. One thing which I still haven't grasped is where on the scale would a high ranking Hindu stand against Hitler's master race?
 
Never heard of her nor would I like to hear about her after reading this article.. One of the many people who try to feel superior due to their race, humans who don't consider other humans as equal are the worst kind and all the problems in the world are because of them..
 
You can overlook Churchill's flaws and still admire him. Those were different times.



Hypocrisy they think whatever they or their ancestors did was for the betterment of our people, before then we didn't have anything and were poor uneducated jaahils.. That's what they are taught in school that colonialism was a gift to India/Pakistan..
 
Hypocrisy they think whatever they or their ancestors did was for the betterment of our people, before then we didn't have anything and were poor uneducated jaahils.. That's what they are taught in school that colonialism was a gift to India/Pakistan..

They have been using hitler and the imperial japanese to hide their own dark and ugly side. Have made Nazism a bad word, when there is nothing evil with national socialism as an ideology. That is like making democracy a bad word because bush and obama killed people. Yes, their anti semitism, eugenics, superior race theory, holocaust were evil. But not fascism (extreme form of patriotism) or nazism(national socialism). Age old propaganda by the west (particularly the evil nexus of US and UK) to silence any voices by linking them to hitler and making themselves look like the good guys, despite spreading death across the world.
 
You can overlook Churchill's flaws and still admire him. Those were different times.

Churchill was not a good guy by any stretch, but he didn’t set up a continent-wide system purely to exterminate humans.
 
Hypocrisy they think whatever they or their ancestors did was for the betterment of our people, before then we didn't have anything and were poor uneducated jaahils.. That's what they are taught in school that colonialism was a gift to India/Pakistan..

They? Who, specifically?
 
Churchill was not a good guy by any stretch, but he didn’t set up a continent-wide system purely to exterminate humans.

When the bar is set to Hitler anyone would look good in comparison. I read he had concentration camps in africa? also that obama's grandfather was tortured in one of them, but some historians say it is not true.
 
I can’t. It reveals a total disregard for human life.
Her real name was Maximiani Portas, and due to her parental and marital history, held French, Greek and British passports at various times.

Apparently, she traveled around India with her Brahmin Hindu husband Mukherji, and as a British citizen, striking up friendships with British officials and other Allied personnel, which gave Devi and Mukherji an opportunity to question them regarding military matters. The information gathered was passed on to Japanese intelligence officials and contributed to attacks on Allied airbases and army units.

In other words, she was directly responsible for the deaths of British, Indian, American, Australian and other Allied soldiers, sailors and airmen - along with the deaths of many civilians that got in the way of the Japanese as they acted upon the information given to them by Devi and her Hindu Brahmin husband.
 
BJP has fascist roots, this is no secret. Modi is a former RSS member and it's fair to assume he still feels the same, India is a Hindu land. Under such ideology, it's no surprise we saw the Gujrat riots and now Muslims being killed over beef.
 
Churchill was not a good guy by any stretch, but he didn’t set up a continent-wide system purely to exterminate humans.

Killing one human or millions should always be equally criticised. I see here you criticised Hitler for his act while brushing aside the act of Churchill. Oh well typical British...
you guys should be last one to preach about Humanity after what your ancestors have done in countless countries.
 
Killing one human or millions should always be equally criticised. I see here you criticised Hitler for his act while brushing aside the act of Churchill. Oh well typical British...
you guys should be last one to preach about Humanity after what your ancestors have done in countless countries.

What act did I brush aside? Be specific.

By the way my ancestors were crash-poor Irish and English who never had the opportunity to oppress anybody. But even if they did I am not responsible for them, any more than modern Germans are responsible for Hitler.
 
When the bar is set to Hitler anyone would look good in comparison. I read he had concentration camps in africa? also that obama's grandfather was tortured in one of them, but some historians say it is not true.

The British Empire’s response to the Mau Mau Uprising was brutal - in effect a British gulag was formed for the Kikuyu. At least 300,000 people were put into concentration camps and there was torture, including of Hussain Onyango Obama, and some were murdered. Perhaps 20,000 Mau Mau militants were killed, of which around 1000 were executed. The Mau Mau had killed some 2000 people, mostly black Kenyans though including a few hundred white Europeans.

So I find the POTUS’s decision to remove the bust of Churchill from the White House quite understandable.
 
Her real name was Maximiani Portas, and due to her parental and marital history, held French, Greek and British passports at various times.

Apparently, she traveled around India with her Brahmin Hindu husband Mukherji, and as a British citizen, striking up friendships with British officials and other Allied personnel, which gave Devi and Mukherji an opportunity to question them regarding military matters. The information gathered was passed on to Japanese intelligence officials and contributed to attacks on Allied airbases and army units.

In other words, she was directly responsible for the deaths of British, Indian, American, Australian and other Allied soldiers, sailors and airmen - along with the deaths of many civilians that got in the way of the Japanese as they acted upon the information given to them by Devi and her Hindu Brahmin husband.

I read that although she married a Brahmin Hindu, the marriage was celibate because of the caste difference. Which brings me back to the earlier question I asked which has always intrigued me: where on the scale would a high ranking Hindu stand against Hitler's master race?
 
Never heard of her nor would I like to hear about her after reading this article.. One of the many people who try to feel superior due to their race, humans who don't consider other humans as equal are the worst kind and all the problems in the world are because of them..

Well said. Especially the bold part.
 
Which Trump has now brought back.


Churchill is an icon of freedom to many Americans. Let us not forget that Europe would have fallen under either Nazi or Communist totalitarianism but for him.
 
Churchill is an icon of freedom to many Americans. Let us not forget that Europe would have fallen under either Nazi or Communist totalitarianism but for him.

Icon for many white americans. Otherwise churchill's views on blacks are well known ( not sure in UK).
 
Icon for many white americans. Otherwise churchill's views on blacks are well known ( not sure in UK).

Churchill is considered a hero in the UK and very much THE iconic British leader of the past century. His views on race are not really discussed, I wouldn't have known about them if I didn't read this site so I can safely say 90% of white people won't know them either.
 
Churchill is considered a hero in the UK and very much THE iconic British leader of the past century. His views on race are not really discussed, I wouldn't have known about them if I didn't read this site so I can safely say 90% of white people won't know them either.

Every nation/quam needs heroes..if there are none, they must be created. if they have flaws, those must be hidden or sanitised. I guess UK couldn't find a better hero than Churchill.
 
Hitler was an incompetent bungler, who only survived long because he had brilliant generals in the form of Guderian, Manstein and Rommel.
 
Hitler was an incompetent bungler, who only survived long because he had brilliant generals in the form of Guderian, Manstein and Rommel.

Our own fuhrer, netaji subhash chandra bose didn't have support from his compatriots or the leaders like gandhi.
 
Our own fuhrer, netaji subhash chandra bose didn't have support from his compatriots or the leaders like gandhi.

Never read about him. I guess Indians likes their aggressive Bose and Sardar Patels more than the seemingly sheepish Gandhis and Nehrus.
 
Anyway, with so many Indians on this site, I wish someone would answer my question from earlier. With the links between Nazi ideology and ancient Hindu culture getting media attention these days, how would the Hindu Brahmin rank in Hitler's vision of the master race? I always thought the master race as espoused by the Fuehrer would essentially be white, so by my reckoning Indian Brahmins would be below even the lowliest chimney sweep from Europe. Have I got this right?
 
Anyway, with so many Indians on this site, I wish someone would answer my question from earlier. With the links between Nazi ideology and ancient Hindu culture getting media attention these days, how would the Hindu Brahmin rank in Hitler's vision of the master race? I always thought the master race as espoused by the Fuehrer would essentially be white, so by my reckoning Indian Brahmins would be below even the lowliest chimney sweep from Europe. Have I got this right?

Your question is interesting, but if you want a proper answer you should ask experts of the master race theory. Indian hindus can only answer where pure germans could be ranked if they were hindus, not where indian hindus would be ranked by pure germans. Indian hindus are used to be ridiculed and looked down upon by christians and muslims, so I would expect the true blood germans to do the same.
 
Your question is interesting, but if you want a proper answer you should ask experts of the master race theory. Indian hindus can only answer where pure germans could be ranked if they were hindus, not where indian hindus would be ranked by pure germans. Indian hindus are used to be ridiculed and looked down upon by christians and muslims, so I would expect the true blood germans to do the same.

But since Nazi ideology itself takes it's learnings from Hindu teachings surely the source itself would inform better than the derivative?
 
But since Nazi ideology itself takes it's learnings from Hindu teachings surely the source itself would inform better than the derivative?

What is nazi ideology. let us be clear on what you understand by it so that we are on the same page.

What are the hindu teachings it derives itself from.

Once we get this cleared, we can proceed to the next logical questions.
 
What is nazi ideology. let us be clear on what you understand by it so that we are on the same page.

What are the hindu teachings it derives itself from.

Once we get this cleared, we can proceed to the next logical questions.

If I knew all that, I wouldn't be asking for answers in the first place. The questions arise from reading the article in the OP. If you don't know either then let's see if someone else can help, otherwise hold on for a few days, I'll do some study and see if I can help you out.
 
If I knew all that, I wouldn't be asking for answers in the first place. The questions arise from reading the article in the OP. If you don't know either then let's see if someone else can help, otherwise hold on for a few days, I'll do some study and see if I can help you out.

I only asked clarification for this statement "since Nazi ideology itself takes it's learnings from Hindu teachings "

Are you saying you don't know what nazi ideology means and you don't know which hindu teachings it derives from?

I have volunteered to answer, but you need to put more meat on your question.
 
From the article in the OP, these are the passages which I am trying to get an understanding of:

It isn't hard these days to find discussions of Savitri Devi's books on neo-Nazi web forums, especially The Lightning and the Sun, which expounds the theory that Hitler was an avatar - an incarnation - of the Hindu god Vishnu

Who was Savitri Devi, and why are her ideas being resurrected now? Despite the sari and the name she was a European, born Maximiani Portas to an English mother and Greek-Italian father in Lyon in 1905.

"** She learned Indian languages, married a Brahmin, and forged an elaborate synthesis of Nazism and Hindu myth **"

In Kolkata in the 1930s, Savitri worked for the Hindu Mission, now a quiet neighbourhood shrine but in those days a centre for Hindu nationalist campaigning and missionary activity. The politicisation of India's religious communities under the British had helped to foster the growth of the Hindutva movement, which argued that the Hindus were the true heirs of the Aryans and that India was an essentially Hindu nation.
 
From the article in the OP, these are the passages which I am trying to get an understanding of:

So you are just beginning to look for answers. Your question should have been does nazi ideology derive itself from hindu teachings. Instead you made a statement which you could not defend. So let us make sure what your exact question is. It is great to seek answers, but you must ask sincere questions.
 
So you are just beginning to look for answers. Your question should have been does nazi ideology derive itself from hindu teachings. Instead you made a statement which you could not defend. So let us make sure what your exact question is. It is great to seek answers, but you must ask sincere questions.

Thank you for clarifying my error. I will hone my questions further after doing some research, I realise now that this was a clumsy query and it needs to be honed more carefully to get the desired information. Will be back tomorrow with more specifics to hopefully get some enlightenment.
 
im gonna bump this thread to remind the janaab brethren about the idealation of hitler by indians.
One person does it and it is all Indians.

But your religious literature is flooded with antisemitism, A Maulana visits Hitler, advises him about how to deal with Jews, it must be swept under the carpet and there is nothing much to see there and we have to move on. :moyo2

Bump at your own peril. :yk
 
One person does it and it is all Indians.

But your religious literature is flooded with antisemitism, A Maulana visits Hitler, advises him about how to deal with Jews, it must be swept under the carpet and there is nothing much to see there and we have to move on. :moyo2

Bump at your own peril. :yk
I dare you to cite the anti-Semitism in the Qur'an.

There is more anti-Semitism in the Bible!

Once you are done, we will look at the misogyny in your religious scripture that makes everything look like a summer picnic.

Take your best shot.
 
Hitler was depply influenced by H
im gonna bump this thread to remind the janaab brethren about the idealation of hitler by indians.

The Swastika was adopted by Hitler for a reason, and is ultimately the symbol of Nazism and Fascism in the West.

It is no wonder why Indians, in particular Hindus, adore and revere Hitler! They view Hitler as a God.

This is why Mein Kampf has sold more copies in India than any other country in the world.
 
And remember folks, Hitler resented the Jews after World War ONE, not after some Mufti meeting nearing WW2.

What the Jews did to Germany in WW1, after, and before, enraged Hitler, and he vowed for revenge - and Right-wing Hinduism helped him. Even till this day the Swastika remains banned in certain forms in the West.
 
And remember folks, Hitler resented the Jews after World War ONE, not after some Mufti meeting nearing WW2.

What the Jews did to Germany in WW1, after, and before, enraged Hitler, and he vowed for revenge - and Right-wing Hinduism helped him. Even till this day the Swastika remains banned in certain forms in the West.
 


The same BBC held and concluded Modi was responsible for the Gujrat riots.

You need all the help you can get on this one.

Maybe the other RSS Silos can help you out?
 
The same BBC held and concluded Modi was responsible for the Gujrat riots.

You need all the help you can get on this one.

Maybe the other RSS Silos can help you out?
Now they have backtracked and do not call Modi responsible for Gujrat Riots.
 
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Now they have backtracked and do not call Modi responsible for Gujrat Riots.
It's amazing how the prospect of money changes views and buys opinions, and no the BBC have not back tracked.
 
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Money?

You guys run from pillar to pillar.
Yet it is you who is here.

Yes Money, UK wants to fleece India, again, Amreeka is using India to target China.

Once again, India is the punching bag.

But there are many threads on this topic, but remember, it is you who is here after running from pillar to pillar, not the other way round.

How symbolic.
 
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