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India have just had a very tough and competitive Test series against South Africa and will now lock horns again in a different format starting tomorrow.

Virat Kohli will know that if India are to challenge the Proteas in the series, they need to field the right combination and cannot afford a slip-up. The talk throughout the Test series was focused on the bizarre selections from the Indian camp and the XI for tomorrow’s first ODI will be under scrutiny as well.

Even though India are ranked number two in the limited overs format, things haven’t been rosy for the team over the past year or so. They have tinkered with the middle order but have struggled to find the right combination.

The top three is settled as Shikhar Dhawan, Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli are certainties. India’s biggest challenge has been to pick a trusted number four. The side has tried Manish Pandey, KL Rahul and Dinesh Karthik in that position with limited success. Shreyas Iyer made an appearance during the home series against Sri Lanka as well.

India now have a host of middle order batsmen in the squad and finding the right balance will be the key in this series. The number four spot will be between Iyer, Manish Pandey and Karthik as there was no place for KL Rahul in the ODI squad. Ajinkya Rahane has been picked in the squad but he normally plays as an opener for India in ODIs. MS Dhoni and Kedhar Jadhav will probably occupy the number five and six spots in the line-up, followed by Hardik Pandya.

The other aspect India have struggled with in the recent times is power hitting later in the innings. The batsman picked in the middle order are all similar in the way they play their cricket and Jadhav and Pandya are the only ones who are known to hit the long ball down the order.

If Kohli’s Test selections are anything to go by, Iyer, who had a good home series against Sri Lanka, might get the nod ahead of Manish Pandey and Dinesh Karthik in the XI.

The bowling combination is also something India needs to work out. They have picked two wrist spinners in the squad and it will be interesting to see if management will play both of them in the XI.

Mohammad Shami, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Jasprit Bumrah and Shardul Thakur form the pace bowling quartet in the squad. With Pandya in the squad as the third seamer, India might as well pick the two spinners in the XI. Bumrah and Kumar will most likely be India’s first-choice seamers.

Even though the Indian squad is good, it is by no means perfect. Kohli and the team management should make the right calls to extract the best output from the available players. Their selections in the Test series weren’t up to the mark and hopefully they have learnt something from the mistakes.

Going by what we have seen in the Tests, there is nothing to suggest this won’t be a competitive series.

My Indian XI for the first ODI vs South Africa

Rohit Sharma, Shikhar Dhawan, Virat Kohli (C), Manish Pandey, MS Dhoni (WK), Kedhar Jadhav, Hardik Pandya, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Y Chahal, Kuldeep Yadav, Jasprit Bumrah
 
Kedhar Jadhav is the only weak link, rest of the team looks ok.

I expect a flat pitch for tomorrow’s match, most probably INDIA will win it.
 
No ABDV is a let down. I like to watch him in one dayers even if he is in the opposition side.
 
This. Unless SA chase under lights after we put up > 275 batting first and DeKock fails.

That's the reason I never mentioned anything about winning the series. I would be happy if India can compete well and win a few games.
 
May I know the reason for choosing Manish Pandey over Iyer?

I feel Manish Pandey ideal at number 4 behind Kohli. He can attack and also knock it around if India lose some quick wickets. I am not saying Iyer isn't good, he is and he played a brilliant innings against SL but I don't want to give up on Manish yet. He deserves a longer run in the team. I do feel though that Kohli will choose either Iyer or Karthik but I want Manish to get a longer run in the team.
 
Quite surprised to see people underestimating Team INDIA.

I think we are being realistic. The closest India got to winning a ODI series in SA was in 2006 when Yusuf Pathan scored that brilliant hundred in the 5th ODI. India have always struggled in ODI's in SA and unless we consistently score big runs we will struggle.
 
I think we are being realistic. The closest India got to winning a ODI series in SA was in 2006 when Yusuf Pathan scored that brilliant hundred in the 5th ODI. India have always struggled in ODI's in SA and unless we consistently score big runs we will struggle.

INDIA fared really bad back then, this team is way better and has the potential to win it against this SA side. Even the test matches INDIA lost were close contested, wasn’t a one sided affair like yesteryear.

In the absence of Steyn and ABD, it’s very much possible.
 
I feel Manish Pandey ideal at number 4 behind Kohli. He can attack and also knock it around if India lose some quick wickets. I am not saying Iyer isn't good, he is and he played a brilliant innings against SL but I don't want to give up on Manish yet. He deserves a longer run in the team. I do feel though that Kohli will choose either Iyer or Karthik but I want Manish to get a longer run in the team.

I have given up on him. He has sacrificed technique for some power shots. Had potential but we have better players in pipeline. Should be good in IPL though.
 
India have just had a very tough and competitive Test series against South Africa and will now lock horns again in a different format starting tomorrow.

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Rohit Sharma, Shikhar Dhawan, Virat Kohli (C), Manish Pandey, MS Dhoni (WK), Kedhar Jadhav, Hardik Pandya, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Y Chahal, Kuldeep Yadav, Jasprit Bumrah
How effective would Jadhav be in SA? Most of the balls would be at an uncomfortable length for him. But he's someone who likes pace on the ball. Will be interesting.

If India bats well, I don't think it'd be easy for South Africa. If we survive the first 10 overs without damage we should be able to do good. I also feel this is the right time to give Rahane a chance. He played a good innings in the last test and can adjust to the conditions better than Jadhav. I don't know what the management is trying to do by saying they're considering Rahane for the opening slot only.
 
I think we are being realistic. The closest India got to winning a ODI series in SA was in 2006 when Yusuf Pathan scored that brilliant hundred in the 5th ODI. India have always struggled in ODI's in SA and unless we consistently score big runs we will struggle.

That was in 2010-11. 2006 was a horrific series when Justin Kemp thumped us in ODI's.
 
With AB out, India has a very good chance of beating SA. AB was the x-factor, and that's what SA will miss the most about him.
 
In the long term, having MS as #4 is the right way to go for India in the 2019 WC. MS at 4, Jadhav at 5, Suresh Raina at 6 (yes - his record in England in ODIs is good) and Pandya at 7 should give us enough depth and balance.

As a surprise tactic you could even ask Jadhav to keep for about 30 mins and ask MS to roll over his arm if needed.

Considering this series where there is no Raina, I would go with MS at 4, Iyer at 5, Jadhav at 6 and Pandya at 7, followed by Bhuvi and Kuldeep (considering the left handers in the line up) , Shami and Bumrah. I am going ahead with Iyer because he is a part time leg spinner as well and no less a fielder than Pandey.
 
May I know the reason for choosing Manish Pandey over Iyer?


I would actually choose Iyer over Jadhav.

My 11

Rohit Sharma, Shikhar Dhawan, Virat Kohli (C), Shreyas Iyer, Manish Pandey, MS Dhoni (WK), Hardik Pandya, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Mohammed Shami, Kuldeep Yadav, Jasprit Bumrah
 
In the long term, having MS as #4 is the right way to go for India in the 2019 WC. MS at 4, Jadhav at 5, Suresh Raina at 6 (yes - his record in England in ODIs is good) and Pandya at 7 should give us enough depth and balance.

As a surprise tactic you could even ask Jadhav to keep for about 30 mins and ask MS to roll over his arm if needed.

Considering this series where there is no Raina, I would go with MS at 4, Iyer at 5, Jadhav at 6 and Pandya at 7, followed by Bhuvi and Kuldeep (considering the left handers in the line up) , Shami and Bumrah. I am going ahead with Iyer because he is a part time leg spinner as well and no less a fielder than Pandey.

What about Rahul?I think he should be part of first XI.Maybe at 4 and MS at 5.

Raina should be part of the team soon.We need finishers and hitters. Maybe Pant too even he does well this season
 
I would actually choose Iyer over Jadhav.

My 11

Rohit Sharma, Shikhar Dhawan, Virat Kohli (C), Shreyas Iyer, Manish Pandey, MS Dhoni (WK), Hardik Pandya, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Mohammed Shami, Kuldeep Yadav, Jasprit Bumrah

I would replace Manish with Jadhav in your line up. Somebody who can give 5 overs if Raina is not starting.
 
India have sabotaged themselves by poor selection choices. You have to wonder why is it taking the team think tank so long to settle down on a core of batsmen who'd form the nucleus come 2019. I believe KL Rahul has to feature in India's best XI today and he is curiously missing. I am also suspect about Jadhav, as good as he has been, being a viable solution as a finisher. Then there is the Dhoni problem nobody wants to address. Big mess.
 
I would replace Manish with Jadhav in your line up. Somebody who can give 5 overs if Raina is not starting.

I believe Jadhav has no place in the team now. He got his chances and didn't make the most of them. Case closed.


And I don't see why we need an additional bowler, particularly a spinner, when we already have four specialist seamers and one spinner. Jadhav will be a useless piece of baggage in SA.
 
I'm sorry but I have to stop OP, I mean, the test series was not "very tough and competitive"...it was tough for the Indians sure but the first two matches were won by comfortable margins for SA. India had moments and some good spells but it's like saying the Ashes were competitive because England had similar moments and spells.

the last match was a good win but an entire series does hinge on one match.

As for the ODI series, with no AB and Amla not at his best, India should win.
 
The question remains who will be India's no.4 in the coming series?

Iyer, Karthik or Manish?

Think, SA lineup would be this:

de Kock
Amla
Faf
Markaram
JP
Miller
Morris
Phehlukwayo
Morkel
Tahir
Rabada( should rest him if you ask me)

De Kock will be the real deal. Think he got 3 out of 3 hundreds in last SA tour while also managing 2 hundreds in 5 matches in 2015 series in India.
 
You can try any combination you want don't see them winning more than an odi or maybe 2 tops!! Remember what happened on previous tour quinton scored 3 consecutive hundreds.This is not gonna be any different!! This time 6-0 is real on! Or maybe 5-1!! 6-0 will be perfect though!! Go guys
 
South Africa has won last 17 odi matches at home .. including series wins against Australia and England
 
What about Rahul?I think he should be part of first XI.Maybe at 4 and MS at 5.

Raina should be part of the team soon.We need finishers and hitters. Maybe Pant too even he does well this season

Rahul is a great talent but with Rahane drafted in to the squad since he could play multiple roles (opening or #4 - incidentally looking at a #4 role this series) and a plethora of options at #4 for Kohli, he sadly has slid down the pecking order.

He has a window of opportunity in the T20s though with Rahane not going to play. He can very well get his chance and if he plays a blinder in one of the games (and also has a good IPL), he has a great chance of a comeback into the ODI squad for the England tour.

Or the other option would be if he is being considered as a back up keeper - but with DK and even Jadhav in the squad that looks unlikely - atleast in the 50 over format.
 
South Africa has won last 17 odi matches at home .. including series wins against Australia and England

You mean they haven't lost a game or they have won more than than they have lost? Good record nevertheless.
 
The question remains who will be India's no.4 in the coming series?

Iyer, Karthik or Manish?

Think, SA lineup would be this:

de Kock
Amla
Faf
Markaram
JP
Miller
Morris
Phehlukwayo
Morkel
Tahir
Rabada( should rest him if you ask me)

De Kock will be the real deal. Think he got 3 out of 3 hundreds in last SA tour while also managing 2 hundreds in 5 matches in 2015 series in India.

None...current indication is that it would be Rahane. Given his record in pitches with bounce and considering his current form, there is some logic to this .
 
Why are they trying to make an ODI player out of Rahane and Test player out of Rohit :facepalm:

Time for them to be restricted to their respective formats.Will lengthen their career too
 
Credit goes to Indian bowling. This was a 330 -350 pitch. India bowled beautifully to restrict SA to to just 269.

SA were 50-60 runs short.
 
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