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Shadab Khan "We lost because of the technology. I think they showed a different ball in the replay" [Hawk-Eye admit fault, Post #23]

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Shadab Khan in the post match talk look incensed about the DRS decision regarding Rilee Rossouw's wicket today. His side also lost to QG, most probably because of the same decision today in the match 8 of PSL season 9.

Shadab Khan "I believe the wrong ball was shown in the replay. I had bowled 4 overs and knew that the ball was not spinning. First of hall hitting outside off stump then showing it was missing due to the spin. Such mistakes should not be made in such big tournaments"

Shadab Khan "we lost because of the technology. I think they showed a different ball in the replay. That was the match-changing incident. Such mistakes should not happen in such a big tournament" #PSL9 #Cricket

(The review said that the ball's impact was outside the line of off, and that the ball would have spun away and would have missed off stump). But Shadab seems to have a point

https://twitter.com/x/status/1760721753167245803

Your thoughts guys? 🤔
 

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Well I still think IU can’t be complaining having been shot out for 138. Poor outing
 
Could someone post the realtime video and than the umpire review video?
 
While i hate him as a captain and pretty angry, but i do see he makes sense about that drs.
Dar was surprised, cricinfo was surprised, everyone is surprised about what happened.
 
just seeing the replays, hawkeye messed up big time here.
 
This should be Shadab's final season as captain for IU if they have another poor underachieving season. There has to be some accountability in Franchise Cricket.
 
Savak said:
This should be Shadab's final season as captain for IU if they have another poor underachieving season. There has to be some accountability in Franchise Cricket.
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that is a seperate issue which i agree.

But this LBW was a howler, and needs to be discussed rightly
 
They pulled mohali on IU, live video showed ball pitching in stumps and DRS showed ball pitching outside off
 
Major said:
While i hate him as a captain and pretty angry, but i do see he makes sense about that drs.
Dar was surprised, cricinfo was surprised, everyone is surprised about what happened.
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Everyone who was not happy with the DRS result was " surprised" , for obvious reason.
 
The real impact of the ball with pads was definitely off. It looked pretty much adjacent and the ball was going to hit the pads inside the line of the stumps but somehow it changed the point of impact and went a good few 6-7 inches on the right. There is something wrong for sure here. That was out.
 
BouncerGuy said:
The real impact of the ball with pads was definitely off. It looked pretty much adjacent and the ball was going to hit the pads inside the line of the stumps but somehow it changed the point of impact and went a good few 6-7 inches on the right. There is something wrong for sure here. That was out.
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Any videos?
 
Even though Shadab is right this time but I see him as a rondu captain having no faith in younger players as well. He is perfect captain to destroy younger players confidence.

He really threw young players under the bus after losing to Afg in that series.

Should be no where near the national team or even IU as captain.
 
that was plain messed up!

@HitWicket can you shed some light on what is happening in this case
 
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plain awful. now sure what HE camera's saw. major disagreement between HE camera and broadcast footage

Is this is an operator error?
 
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PSL need to either reply to Shadab or fix the issue.

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Mohammad Hafeez while speaking during a TV show:

“Where the impact occurred, it was shown to be outside. However, there was no actual impact outside, and the ball did not turn. When we observed the original ball repeatedly, we noticed that the original ball was skidding towards the middle stump. Therefore, we can suggest that this impact could have been an umpire’s call. After that impact, the batter’s pad came out. What we can observe here is merely a deception.”

“I believe there is a technological error here, and this isn’t the first instance; we observed this yesterday as well. I’m unsure if this is a problem with the quality of the technology or the production, but it’s difficult for us to understand. Hence, it will be even more challenging for a cricket fan.”​
 
Hawk-Eye admits DRS error

Hawk-Eye has confirmed to the Pakistan Cricket Board it made a human error while declaring Rilee Rossouw as not out against Salman Ali Agha in the Quetta Gladiators versus Islamabad United match in the HBL Pakistan Super League 9 at the Gaddafi Stadium on Thursday.

Hawk-Eye has admitted the system had correctly tracked the delivery in question for the Decision Review System (DRS), showing the impact as umpire’s call and wickets as hitting. However, due to an operator error, incorrect ball tracking data was put to air, which meant an incorrect outcome was reached.

“Had processes been followed as expected, this (correct ball tracking data) would have been available only a few seconds after the incorrect data was played on broadcast,” Hawk-Eye explained, while also offering its regrets.

Hawk-Eye is the International Cricket Council’s only approved technology for ball tracking, which was first trialed in 2008 and has since been part of the DRS.
 
FearlessRoar said:
Hawk-Eye admits DRS error

Hawk-Eye has confirmed to the Pakistan Cricket Board it made a human error while declaring Rilee Rossouw as not out against Salman Ali Agha in the Quetta Gladiators versus Islamabad United match in the HBL Pakistan Super League 9 at the Gaddafi Stadium on Thursday.

Hawk-Eye has admitted the system had correctly tracked the delivery in question for the Decision Review System (DRS), showing the impact as umpire’s call and wickets as hitting. However, due to an operator error, incorrect ball tracking data was put to air, which meant an incorrect outcome was reached.

“Had processes been followed as expected, this (correct ball tracking data) would have been available only a few seconds after the incorrect data was played on broadcast,” Hawk-Eye explained, while also offering its regrets.

Hawk-Eye is the International Cricket Council’s only approved technology for ball tracking, which was first trialed in 2008 and has since been part of the DRS.
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So this is the fault of Hawk-Eye? Head should roll for that.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Shadab Khan in the post match talk look incensed about the DRS decision regarding Rilee Rossouw's wicket today. His side also lost to QG, most probably because of the same decision today in the match 8 of PSL season 9.

Shadab Khan "I believe the wrong ball was shown in the replay. I had bowled 4 overs and knew that the ball was not spinning. First of hall hitting outside off stump then showing it was missing due to the spin. Such mistakes should not be made in such big tournaments"

Shadab Khan "we lost because of the technology. I think they showed a different ball in the replay. That was the match-changing incident. Such mistakes should not happen in such a big tournament" #PSL9 #Cricket

(The review said that the ball's impact was outside the line of off, and that the ball would have spun away and would have missed off stump). But Shadab seems to have a point

https://twitter.com/x/status/1760721753167245803

Your thoughts guys? 🤔
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will he be penalised for this statement and for Questioning the umpires?
 
So this is the operators fault. Which means the operator can influence the decision.

I remember there was a debate here that operator cannot edit it etc.
 
Would be interesting to see how many operators are there for the technology and hopefully its not just one. Just for accuracy, there should be multiple people in the operator's room having proper oversight to ensure such a mistake isn't made in the future.
 
Am surprised Shadab hasn't been fined for his outburst. Sure his anger is justified but this is an international level competition. Players have to bind themselves by a code of conduct, you can't have players mouthing off in interviews.
 
Hawkeye should provide more details on why the error happened. DRS will create a lot of controversy if teams dont have confidence in the prediction of the ball trajectory.

players at the losing end of even right decisions will start to complain
 
What’s the point of DRS if it is humanly operated??? I never knew that before , Saeed Ajmal is really unlucky
 
This tech failure cost the other team a match so what's the purpose of keeping it going when it's not 100% accurate? It's better to stick with human decisions.
 
Major said:
So this is the operators fault. Which means the operator can influence the decision.

I remember there was a debate here that operator cannot edit it etc.
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It reminds me of the "operator error" when Ajmal had Ten plumb LBW in the 2011 WC and we all know how that went.

Ian gould till this day doesn't understand how it was given Not Out and overturned.
 
Hawk eye has been bugging out a few times this PSL. Very convenient excuse to hide behind operator error. It looked like the tracking system just didn't pick moment of impact correctly around the bat.

Reminds me of that Shan Masood lbw vs SriLanka from the test series. Was that also operator error?
 
Sycamore said:
Hawk eye has been bugging out a few times this PSL. Very convenient excuse to hide behind operator error. It looked like the tracking system just didn't pick moment of impact correctly around the bat.

Reminds me of that Shan Masood lbw vs SriLanka from the test series. Was that also operator error?
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Give the man a cigar.

@HitWicket do you think this is operator error or @Sycamore making a good point
 
FearlessRoar said:
Hawk-Eye admits DRS error

Hawk-Eye has confirmed to the Pakistan Cricket Board it made a human error while declaring Rilee Rossouw as not out against Salman Ali Agha in the Quetta Gladiators versus Islamabad United match in the HBL Pakistan Super League 9 at the Gaddafi Stadium on Thursday.

Hawk-Eye has admitted the system had correctly tracked the delivery in question for the Decision Review System (DRS), showing the impact as umpire’s call and wickets as hitting. However, due to an operator error, incorrect ball tracking data was put to air, which meant an incorrect outcome was reached.

“Had processes been followed as expected, this (correct ball tracking data) would have been available only a few seconds after the incorrect data was played on broadcast,” Hawk-Eye explained, while also offering its regrets.

Hawk-Eye is the International Cricket Council’s only approved technology for ball tracking, which was first trialed in 2008 and has since been part of the DRS.
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Wish it also admit when Sachin Tendulkar was declared not out in 2011 WC SF on Saeed Ajmal's delivery , but I understand , too much at stake at that time .
 
moghul said:
Wish it also admit when Sachin Tendulkar was declared not out in 2011 WC SF on Saeed Ajmal's delivery , but I understand , too much at stake at that time .
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Didn't BCCI oppose HE and was villified for it?

anyway, still crying over it after almost 13 years...
 
rpant_gabba said:
Didn't BCCI oppose HE and was villified for it?

anyway, still crying over it after almost 13 years...
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First, they were crying because the BCCI opposed it. And when it was used in the 2011 WC, they cried (and still continuing till this day) because it went against them.
 
Major said:
So this is the operators fault. Which means the operator can influence the decision.

I remember there was a debate here that operator cannot edit it etc.
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Or it could be a technology error (since Hawk eye isn't perfect), but they are shifting the blame and keeping their technology clean.
 
Rilee Rossouw, the Quetta Gladiators Captain, spoke with local media and shared his opinion about the Hawk-Eye error:

"Yeah, I think it was unfortunate for islamabad United but I think the technology did let them down but looking at the at the footage again, I think the ball still did hit me outside off. So, I think there are decision was made at the end of the day, but it wasn't shown as the right ball of the technology, but if you go review and look at the footage again, it does hit me outside. Also, I don't think it changes the decision. It was just unfortunately the technology at the time, wasn't correct."
 
RidiculousMan said:
Or it could be a technology error (since Hawk eye isn't perfect), but they are shifting the blame and keeping their technology clean.
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why or?

When Hawkeye themselves have said its operator error
 
I have never seen Hawk Eye mess up in such a big way in international cricket but here in the PSL it's showing completely different impacts altogether.

It seems like they are using China's Hawk Eye technology in PSL.
 
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