Shan Masood - 914 runs in his last 11 list A innings (including 182* in SF of Regional One-Day Cup)

[JibranAnsari]

3 hundreds - 100* , 128* and 182*

And 6 50s.

Averages 130 plus in and overall 54.9.

Definitely deserves a call up.

 

[shah_1]

Yes he deserves his chance

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Hate to say it but he merits a place in the ODI squad

 

[IAJ]

He is rubbish in Test cricket, but maybe a good choice for ODIs.

 

[Markhor]

What does that tell you about the quality of our domestic cricket ?

 

[JattMaula]

What does that tell you about the quality of our domestic cricket ?

Give the man a damn chance. Maybe this is start of something beautiful.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

He has 8 hundreds and 9 fifties in his last 28 innings.He averages 95.Incredible.

 

[shah_1]

What does that tell you about the quality of our domestic cricket ?

He is outscoring others by some distance


He deserves his chance.

 

[IAJ]

What does that tell you about the quality of our domestic cricket ?

Well the players can only perform, our domestic set-up is poor but that is what you have at the moment, so if he is consistently outscoring the others there is something he is doing right.

 

[Shafi]

If players caliber like Shan, Kamran, Iftikhar, Khurram, Shehzad... outscoring other players its mean we actually have no talent in our domestic. We deserve to be among 7-8

 

[New Yorker]

What does that tell you about the quality of our domestic cricket ?

It tells me that everyone bats and bowls on the same pitches, and that my best players are always most likely to be those who perform better than others. If they fail to take their chance in internationals, fine, discard, and pick again. There is no more reliable system than this, and should be noted that domestic performance tends to track international quite well in ODIs. The big failures in the national team have been players who were a. selected in spite of mediocre domestic records, not because of them. e.g. Rahat b. being given a second chance in internationals after having been previously tested, e.g. Akmal. I actually don't believe that Shan himself "deserves" a chance; he has already been handed more chances in his life than he deserves, on accounts of his father's influence. But I believe that a selection system that takes itself seriously, as a system, simply must give chances to its best performers. And in ODIs there would be some sense in trialling Shan.

 

[New Yorker]

If players caliber like Shan, Kamran, Iftikhar, Khurram, Shehzad... outscoring other players its mean we actually have no talent in our domestic. We deserve to be among 7-8

Yet if these domestic batsmen are so awful, why do none of our top international bowlers, like Hasan Ali, or Amir, average much better in domestics than in internationals? These kinds of arguments have very little explicatory merit if one works through them.

 

[babajee]

GOAT, ATG, Better than Bradman

 

[GullyCricketFlop]

Deserves selection.What more should he do?Just hope that he isn't selected in tests again

 

[Markhor]

It tells me that everyone bats and bowls on the same pitches, and that my best players are always most likely to be those who perform better than others. If they fail to take their chance in internationals, fine, discard, and pick again. There is no more reliable system than this, and should be noted that domestic performance tends to track international quite well in ODIs. The big failures in the national team have been players who were a. selected in spite of mediocre domestic records, not because of them. e.g. Rahat b. being given a second chance in internationals after having been previously tested, e.g. Akmal. I actually don't believe that Shan himself "deserves" a chance; he has already been handed more chances in his life than he deserves, on accounts of his father's influence. But I believe that a selection system that takes itself seriously, as a system, simply must give chances to its best performers. And in ODIs there would be some sense in trialling Shan.

I agree consistent domestic performers must be rewarded in any fair and meritocratic selection process. However it is fair to raise questions of a domestic system that sees proven international failures like Iftikhar Ahmed, Khurram Manzoor and Shan Masood dominate to this extent back home.

Numbers don't exist in a vacuum, you have to consider context and the context is that today Masood piled on the runs against a bowling attack of Saad Altaf, Ataullah, Yasir Ali (all three over the age of 30), Kashif Bhatti, Umar Amin, Saud Shakeel and Iftikhar Ahmed.

If he can replicate these performances in the PSL, where he'll be up against international standard players, then fair enough.

But from what we've seen of Shan Masood's international career, and his List A record where his career SR is only 79, what makes you think he can replicate this kind of performance in ODI cricket against far better bowling and fielding outfits ?

 

[Mainul]

This is the right time to call him for ODIs.But instead Pak management will recall him for tests, he won't do good ,be dropped again,loose confidence and the cycle goes on for every in form player.Pakistan always choose wrong person for wrong format. Same old story.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

The next

 

[Hasan123]

Unbelievable

 

[New Yorker]

I agree consistent domestic performers must be rewarded in any fair and meritocratic selection process. However it is fair to raise questions of a domestic system that sees proven international failures like Iftikhar Ahmed, Khurram Manzoor and Shan Masood dominate to this extent back home.

Numbers don't exist in a vacuum, you have to consider context and the context is that today Masood piled on the runs against a bowling attack of Saad Altaf, Ataullah, Yasir Ali (all three over the age of 30), Kashif Bhatti, Umar Amin, Saud Shakeel and Iftikhar Ahmed.

If he can replicate these performances in the PSL, where he'll be up against international standard players, then fair enough.

But from what we've seen of Shan Masood's international career, and his List A record where his career SR is only 79, what makes you think he can replicate this kind of performance in ODI cricket against far better bowling and fielding outfits ?

I think people should be selected for the formats in which they do well. Masood is a proven failure in Test cricket, not yet ODIs, of which he has not yet played one. I think it would be harsh to call Manzoor, who averaged 33 after only 7 ODIs, a proven failure. He could have had more chances. This is not to say we can't find examples of such failures.

But the question should always be, why would I believe that players who are even worse than Masood, in domestic cricket, will be better than him in international cricket? There is no logic behind that proposition. You select the best of your crop, however miserable you may otherwise feel it to be.

And again, I don't think we owe Shan anything; he has come this far largely on the basis of his father's connections. But this is actually not about him, it is about the system as such. Also, and yet again, selection is never about certainty. It meaningless to talk about whether any player is "really any good." You can never know until you try, and if you claim to know before trying you are foolish.

 

[New Yorker]

I agree consistent domestic performers must be rewarded in any fair and meritocratic selection process. However it is fair to raise questions of a domestic system that sees proven international failures like Iftikhar Ahmed, Khurram Manzoor and Shan Masood dominate to this extent back home.

Numbers don't exist in a vacuum, you have to consider context and the context is that today Masood piled on the runs against a bowling attack of Saad Altaf, Ataullah, Yasir Ali (all three over the age of 30), Kashif Bhatti, Umar Amin, Saud Shakeel and Iftikhar Ahmed.

If he can replicate these performances in the PSL, where he'll be up against international standard players, then fair enough.

But from what we've seen of Shan Masood's international career, and his List A record where his career SR is only 79, what makes you think he can replicate this kind of performance in ODI cricket against far better bowling and fielding outfits ?

The PSL is T20, and should not, I think, be used as a basis for judging suitability for ODIs. The Pakistani team in its entirety is proof of that. So, nice if he does well, but not conclusive. In the kind of ODI form he is now showing, given how wonky our opening combination is, he should be a selection. Unfortunately, Zimbabwe will not be the sternest test of him. SR is a concern, but if he can play long innings like this he could still be worthwhile. Fakhar can accelerate on the other end.

 

[ads101]

Really great news. It's no secret that people believed he got his selection due to contacts. But now he has domestic performance to back it up. Should give him confidence.