Shan Masood says we don't play enough red-ball cricket so what does the PCB do before the England Test series?

[MenInG]

To fix the issues higlighted by the Pakistan Test captain, the PCB duly organises an OD tournament

In his post BD Series loss remarks:


Is lack of much red ball cricket the reason behind this series fiasco?

Test cricket is ultimate format of the game and you do need experience in it. One need to just extract the data regarding the overall number of Test matches played by this (current Pakistan) team and after how big a gap we do normally play. I believe as a nation we need to work and ponder over it. So we need to play more red ball cricket in our domestic circuit for improvements. So whichever format you want to play, you need players of that format before. For instance, you can't play a Test player in a T20 format and expect better results.

 

[mominsaigol]

I think the od cup is to prepare for ct 2025, but yes, they shpuld have organised it after England series. The weather is Faisalabad would have been alot cooler as well

 

[MenInG]

I think the odi cup is to prepare for ct 2025, but yes, they shpuld have organised it after England series. The weather is Faisalabad would have been alot cooler as well

Like the game is reeling with this huge loss and our idea of prep is to play OD cricket?

 

[mominsaigol]

Like the game is reeling with this huge loss and our idea of prep is to play OD cricket?

Not our idea bro, PCB's idea .

 

[Savak]

Lame excuses. Bangladesh had not played a test match for 7-8 months prior to coming to Pakistan.

PCB cannot be blamed for everything. How much 4 day games can be held in a one month gap 1-3? Will that be enough?

PCB perhaps did not have another window to hold the Champions ODI Cup and Gary Kirsten probably demanded a major domestic ODI tournament to be held so that he can see and double check the domestic talent.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Thank God you don't play Test cricket that often otherwise ICC could have taken away our Test status a long time ago

 

[Double Trouble]

Shan is running out of excuses tbh.

Poor captain, poor batsmen and poor excuse of an analyst.

We need accountability not a million and one reasons why we lost to BD

 

[MenInG]

This is not about Shan's captaincy

Pakistan's Test cricket is in shambles, if anything we need to spend time playing more red ball games with our senior and Shaheen guys in prep for the England series instead of this tamasha.

 

[gibsyhesperis]

This is not about Shan's captaincy

Pakistan's Test cricket is in shambles, if anything we need to spend time playing more red ball games with our senior and Shaheen guys in prep for the England series instead of this tamasha.

Exactly this.

People rightly praise the addition of Jamie Smith to the England team and how he could be a start for the future.
They forget he had made his first class red ball debut five years ago, has played 65 matches and scored 4000 first class runs before being picked for England.
Siam Ayub made his first class debut two years ago and has played 15 games.

You don’t prepare for Test matches against the top sides by playing in white ball cricket.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Shan may not be the best Test captain for PCT but he is actually spot on when he mentions lack of good red ball players in national side. And unfortunately he may suffer against England too as nothing is going to change before that.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Lame excuses. Bangladesh had not played a test match for 7-8 months prior to coming to Pakistan.

PCB cannot be blamed for everything. How much 4 day games can be held in a one month gap 1-3? Will that be enough?

PCB perhaps did not have another window to hold the Champions ODI Cup and Gary Kirsten probably demanded a major domestic ODI tournament to be held so that he can see and double check the domestic talent.

Also the bigger worry is definitely the fact that PAK crashed out of the recent 2 white ball tournaments without so much as a whimper.

PCT can afford to become a weak Test side. But they absolutely cannot afford to be this weak in white ball cricket.

 

[Josh]

Also the bigger worry is definitely the fact that PAK crashed out of the recent 2 white ball tournaments without so much as a whimper.

PCT can afford to become a weak Test side. But they absolutely cannot afford to be this weak in white ball cricket.

That's right

 

[Katwalindian]

Since 2010 pakistan played australia and England 47 times in tests, while bangladesh just played 7 times during this time but they still beat Pakistan badly. Just excuses.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Pakistan is not going to be a serious test side anymore. The players and administration has themselves given up on Test Cricket.

 

[gibsyhesperis]

Also the bigger worry is definitely the fact that PAK crashed out of the recent 2 white ball tournaments without so much as a whimper.

PCT can afford to become a weak Test side. But they absolutely cannot afford to be this weak in white ball cricket.

The one will follow the other.

Since 2010 pakistan played australia and England 47 times in tests, while bangladesh just played 7 times during this time but they still beat Pakistan badly. Just excuses.

You need a first class structure to support the development of a Test side.
It is no coincidence that the three countries with the strongest first class structures also have the strongest Test sides.

 

[gibsyhesperis]

Pakistan is not going to be a serious test side anymore. The players and administration has themselves given up on Test Cricket.

The challenge is that if they give up on Test cricket there is no real point in playing first class cricket.
You give up on that and you give up on the development of players even for white ball cricket, certainly 50 overs.

I guess Pakistan could be some sort of mercurial T20 side, but that’s basically an admission that it isn’t a serious cricket nation….whcih may actually soon be the case.

 

[MenInG]

India preparing for Tests with Duleep Trophy..

Pakistan preparing for England series with Champions Cup

 

[gibsyhesperis]

India preparing for Tests with Duleep Trophy..

Pakistan preparing for England series with Champions Cup

India are a grown up cricket nation….Pakistan are not

 

[BouncerGuy]

India are a grown up cricket nation….Pakistan are not

PCB is looking fr White-ball players for Red-ball series. IYKYK

 

[MenInG]

PCB is looking fr White-ball players for Red-ball series. IYKYK

It's like the BD series was some bad nightmare and PCB doing the lallalala It didn't happen dance!

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Pakistan seems to be focusing on preparation for Champions trophy. Also England will play bazball so it's good for Pakistan to be in ODI mode. They however could have been innovative and play this cup with red ball.

 

[MenInG]

And we expect any different results against England? NOTHING has been done since that defeat to BD.

This is beyond a joke now.

 

[MenInG]

So apparently this connection camp was to work on morale - of course, organizing red-ball games between top red-ball players as a way to prepare for the England series would have been of no use...

 

[Mainul]

To fix the issues higlighted by the Pakistan Test captain, the PCB duly organises an OD tournament

In his post BD Series loss remarks:


Is lack of much red ball cricket the reason behind this series fiasco?

Test cricket is ultimate format of the game and you do need experience in it. One need to just extract the data regarding the overall number of Test matches played by this (current Pakistan) team and after how big a gap we do normally play. I believe as a nation we need to work and ponder over it. So we need to play more red ball cricket in our domestic circuit for improvements. So whichever format you want to play, you need players of that format before. For instance, you can't play a Test player in a T20 format and expect better results.

England will play 5 ODIs in 5 days of a test in bazeball style. So PCB arranged an ODI cup . Fare enough

 

[Cricket Warrior]

PCB is looking fr White-ball players for Red-ball series. IYKYK

and they will end up picking Azam Khan type players lol

 

[Mohraheem]

He is already coming with excuses… Bangladesh L wasn’t enough…

 

[BouncerGuy]

To fix the issues higlighted by the Pakistan Test captain, the PCB duly organises an OD tournament

In his post BD Series loss remarks:


Is lack of much red ball cricket the reason behind this series fiasco?

Test cricket is ultimate format of the game and you do need experience in it. One need to just extract the data regarding the overall number of Test matches played by this (current Pakistan) team and after how big a gap we do normally play. I believe as a nation we need to work and ponder over it. So we need to play more red ball cricket in our domestic circuit for improvements. So whichever format you want to play, you need players of that format before. For instance, you can't play a Test player in a T20 format and expect better results.

The same question was asked by many, but PCB is quiet.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1842100038308397089

 

[MenInG]

The same question was asked by many but PCB is quiet.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1842100038308397089

No brainer.

Naqvi and his quest for Champions Trophy glory - nothing will come between that.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Good to see PAK fans have excuses ready in case they get beaten yet again.

Lack of 4 day tournament

 

[MenInG]

Good to see PAK fans have excuses ready in case they get beaten yet again.

Lack of 4 day tournament

Not sure what's so funny about that?

Very normal to prepare for a Test series with ... guess what.... practice.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Not sure what's so funny about that?

Very normal to prepare for a Test series with ... guess what.... practice.

Has that been a standard practice for PCB previously ? That too in the month of September ?

 

[MenInG]

No brainer

No prep made for this series

A redball tournament or even 2 4 days games between pak snr pak a and b teams to see if players like Hurraira were ready could have done the job.

 

[Savak]

Even in that ODI tournament we witnessed teams struggling to bat the full 50 overs and the team batting second struggling to chase.

T20 Cricket has badly ruined Pakistan in ODI and Test Cricket

 

[mominsaigol]

Even in that ODI tournament we witnessed teams struggling to bat the full 50 overs and the team batting second struggling to chase.

T20 Cricket has badly ruined Pakistan in ODI and Test Cricket

They aren't even good in t20 lol. Infact their equally rubbish in t20.

 

[MenInG]

So now Shan has a chance to practice his red-ball cricket ahead of the SA series, but what does he play in? some useless T20 tournament!

 

[Varun]

I think Pakistan play a reasonable amount of test cricket for a non-big 3 board.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I think Pakistan play a reasonable amount of test cricket for a non-big 3 board.

you are right. They are not far behind others in the last 5 years


Overall figures

Team	Mat
England	63
India	45
Australia	40
New Zealand	39
Sri Lanka	38
West Indies	37
Pakistan	36
South Africa	35
Bangladesh	33
Zimbabwe	11
Ireland	6
Afghanistan	5